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 V2. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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noakenzo
post Mar 3 2009, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(benchai @ Mar 2 2009, 10:47 PM)
For all you know all these email of praise and appreciations are written by themselves. It’s just a sale tactics to trap unsuspecting newbie. Don’t be so naïve to think that they will tell you about their failure. Don’t believe in Endorsements from people with title like Doctor M and so on without any address or phone contact for confirmation.  These operators once they get your money they are gone and kiss my ass. They know that you will cut your losses and swallow your pride and don’t want anyone to know that you have taken for a sucker.

Same goes for bird music some unscrupulous and unethical con artist will down load them from internet or cd given to them will just rename them with some dangerous and enticing names and sell them. If it don’t work their excuse is the bird in your area speak a different language or your amp is not good enough and will  try to sell you new amp which he claim to have superior sound ,oh!  Another RM7,000. Ha!Ha!  Oh! you also need to engage him to come and tune your new amp for another RM800.00 plus travelling expenses and sea food dinner. (Can you see how fat he is compare to a year ago)The real reason is that these sounds have been used by so many BH for so long that the birds in this areas fed up and no longer respond to them. I do belief that at one time these are good cds.

A master bird music composer knows the different type of sound and will probably have only about 20 very sharp and clear sound tracts of 2 or 3 minutes in his collections. Their skill is to splice about 4 or 5 sounds to make up about 2 minutes of 4 or 5 sounds. Another skill for this master composer is their ability to tune all of them to the same sound level and the correct frequencies. You can record them in 2 channels and layer another tract to prevent other from stealing your sound.  Once this is done, repeat them and record then to 1 hour cd or pen drive. Only the bull shit half pass six sifu will claim that they have 200 or 300 cds to choose from. I bet most are no longer effective.

I have one of this cd made up in front of me in a matter of 20 minutes. The new music has been tested and result recorded on video. You need to jiggle these 20 sounds around and keep your bird interested, but at last very few of us, me including don’t have the ears to differentiate the different sound. If you are interested to try, go buy a collections of very clear sound from Eka Walet’s collections at about RM60.00 each and isolate and extract all the different sound and learn to make your own bird music or buy from a respectable sifu. I get all my Bird Music from Pak Han through CK. Many are given to me FOC.

I now brew my own aroma and extract the oil from swift lets feathers and bird nest. This oil is only applied to the speakers and none on the nesting planks. This oil is sterile and contains no pathogens or mold to contaminate your NP. The odors will last for three months. The claim of hormones is just bullshit and by the way its illegal to sell hormones without lenience. If you use the highly recommended duck eggs, Kiss your BH good bye. Your planks will turn green. This self styled guru clearly does not know SHIT. Please beware.

I was overcome by greed to believe that some green looking hormones applied to the NP of my new one month old BH with six spots will fill up in no time as promised by my supplier.( I still have my respect for him as I think he sincerely belief in his product and don’t bad mouth others). All the bird left and I ended up shutting down my BH and washed all the NP plank by plank and masked the ammonia smelling hormones with a special aroma sent to me by Pak Han  (for no financial considerations). It took me one month to overcome this problem.  The applications of aromas will make the birds feel more at ease and stay longer in the new BH and over time with the right music and right environment will stay. I Spray a bit of aroma near the ventilation tube after each time I visit my BH will prevent stress to the birds as observed on my CCTV.  The moral here is HAVE PASSION.

I hope that this is helpful and will prevent newbie like myself from being taken for a ride. These are my views and observations and I am by no way an expert. Please correct me and I will use the opportunity to learn the fine art if Swiftlets Farming.
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Hi sifu Ben

i new n learn lot fro sifu here. I veli like tis discusin . My a fren also buy cd from Hm clam veli good. don know wht thunler o strong. use oledi my fren tell me not many bird come n than chng back to old sound all bird come. Aromo don't kno wat name p wat forget oledi oso no efect after 2 month

Now we all newbie veli scare .Don kno who good or who bad.
true all conslutan,cd, bloger, no trust. we newbie veli pusing kepala.
you so luky got free cd we newbie hav to buy...no cheap can not work also pusing kepala.I oso jus wan share my point of view abt the conslutan,cd,blogger, not against anybody.

This post has been edited by noakenzo: Mar 3 2009, 05:24 PM

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