Oi! Teruk, don't play play with Buddha's name. If you choose to be blind there's nothing we can do but don't go and throw Buddha's name around in defense of your stupid friend, Hairy (not anymore) more like Hairless Cock now. To me you are just like my Chi Chi, very loyal.

Thanks to Mr David Lim,CK,Lucas 1 & Tn Hj Aziz for putting right what has been done wrong by Hairless Cock(actually Hairless d*** sound much better)
Uncle Ben, you put younger men to shame with what you have done and achieved.

This post has been edited by ian oh: Feb 19 2009, 11:51 AM

Unable to do any damage in his homestate he's trying his luck in Perak now. Bloody unrepentent old Hairless Dickhead. I think i should feed him my Chi Chi's dropping to knock some sense into him. Kena hentam nicely in Kedah but still write rosy rosy in his blog. Very thick skin...... as thick as cowhide. I think he's trying to con as many unsuspecting victim as possible before he is finally exposed as a fraud(many of my friends though he's chinese...now that they know...)

I fully supported CK's suggestion of forming a National Organisation to look into the interests of SF with Mr David Lim as the President. Good people like West Wing , Chiongguo(sorry i'm also guilty of thinking that you are H), Ben Chai, Engineer Lee, Lucas & CK and many others should be included as well to make it more efficient. Even the Hairless' one can contribute..... as a tea boy.

Great.. if more good people like you stand forwards, making Ck's suggestion into a reality is just a matter of time.

Yes be civil.... instead of calling yourself Jack_S(vulgar) why not change it to Jack Russel or Jack something else. It sounds a lot better. Don't talk the talk but not walk the talk.

On Draf Garis Panduan.

I think the term 'Perladangan burung walit' is quite inappropriate as swiftlet farming is done inside a building. Maybe someone can come up with a better term as even 'Penternakan burung walit' don't sound right. If they stick to 'Perladangan' or 'Penternakan' sure die cos' another Kementerian will want to get involved as it's under their jurisdiction. More Kementerian more problems, more problems more kopi o.

2.3(v) Akibat dari masalah-masalah yg timbul boleh menyebabkan penurunan dari segi pasaran harta dan aktiviti perniagaan di kawasan sekitar.
Everywhere i go, where there is swiftlet farming activities the price of property in that area will sky rocketed. And business affected? My area shops surrounded by BHs and they're doing reasonably well.

4.0(ii) Aktiviti perladangan burung walit hendaklah dijalankan di luar kawasan penempatan dan perniagaan bagi mengelak kacauganggu kepada penduduk.
If 'kawasan penempatan and perniagaan' not allowed, does that means including kampung and its surrounding areas(normally agriland) and shoplots everywhere including in town?
I think they should do the right thing by excluding this one.

6.1.1 Lokasi Tapak/Zon Guna yg dibenarkan
Should adds in
(iv) Zon Perniagaan/Komersial

6.1.2 Lokasi Tapak/Zon Guna Tanah yg tidak dibenarkan
Should exclude
(iv) Zon Perniagaan

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Added on February 26, 2009, 1:56 pmA 'Lau Chuar' will always be an 'Ular'. No matter how many times it shed its skin, it's still a 'Snake'.

This post has been edited by ian oh: Feb 26 2009, 01:56 PM

Brother,
This is typical chinaman mentallity... Lu si ho koi wa si. Who are we to dictates who's allowed to have BH in town and who not. We should instead help David Lim in his quest to help us by giving him some practical inputs. For your info somebody tried that in Perak and now he has to relocate himself to other state(no..no. i did'nt threaten him or his family.. just in case). If there is a proper guideline for everyone to follow and everyone follow them to the dot then there will be minimal complaint from the public. Take action on the recalcitrant few who caused problems and not prevent others from setting up new BHs in town as it will have a domino effect on others player as well.

I apologise if i offended you with my harsh words but it's done with no bad intention on my part.

Ck is right, we're in the same boat. So i once again apologise to you for causing you so much distress.

But that does not means that i agree to your rhetoric. Banning new BH in town will not solved our problems. They did not exist in the first place , so how are they going to caused any trouble? All the problems we are facing now are caused by existing BHs, Ecopark promoter and some 'officials'. My argument is that it is not the number of BHs in town but the number of problematic BHs in town that are the causes of our trouble. Shut down those that flout the rules. It is better than preventing new BHs in town. Besides it will be very selfish to prevent others from having a piece of the cake just because we want to safeguard the piece we have in hand or more precisely have it all to ourself.

There is no guarantee that if new investors stay out of prohibited area they will be safe. We don't knows what they might come out with in future. They can change the rules according to their whims and fancy wherever and whenever they want.

[quote=swifbuild,Feb 27 2009, 01:37 PM]
"Perusahaan sarang burung walit" (LATER THEY WANT YOU TO HAVE MANUFACTURING LICENSE. WHICH IS COSTLY AND ONLY MANUFACTURING HAS TO BE DONE IN INDUSTRY LAND ,TOWN ALL FINISH.)
or

"Pengurusan sarang burung walit" ( MANAGING , THERE ARE NO MANAGING HERE WHAT IS THERe TO MANAGE? Later ALL HAVE TO HAVE TO ATTENT MAMANGEMENT COURSE WHICH SET BY ALL THOSE JOKER.
or

"Urusniaga sarang burung walit"( TRADING ? THERE ARE NO TRANSACTION SO HOW TO TRADE ? we sell what to swiftlets? Later they will charge a high trading license fee and trading subjected to taxation)
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Penumpangan would be appropriate as we did not do any trading. So the perhilitan can't say that we trade or keep birds. They come and go as a Hotel "Penumpangan"

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Very good points guys. Actually i'm thinking of something like 'Budidaya Walit' which is used in our neighbouring country or anything to that effect in Bahasa Malaysia. Any suggestion?

Hurray, well done Perak Merchant Association and not forgetting our swiftlet friendly Majlis Perbandaran Manjung(this is one Majlis Perbandaran that's truly efficient and with friendly and helpful staffer....once a while must carry a bit he.. he...). Thanks a million.

Regarding that fella, everytime change skin still got so thick skin.

Manjung Swiftlet Eco Park (in the cadangan pembangunan, they called it 'unit kilang')
Touted as the 'World first Legal Swiftlet Eco Park @ Manjung'.

Developed by:
Bio Research Centre (M) sdn bhd
Suite 21.01.21st floor, Menara IGB
No.1 The Boulevard
Mid Valley City
Lingkaran Syed Putra
59200 Kuala Lumpur

Chaiman/co founder: Datuk Abdullah Fadzil Che Wan
MD/co founder: Loke Yeu Loong

Project consists of:
1) 26 x 3 storey terrace units @ 25ft x 75ft @ 4,600 sq ft selling at RM398.8k unit
2) 18 x 3 storey semi detached units @ 60 ft x 105 ft @ 8,500 sq ft selling at RM678k unit
3) 7 x 3 storey detached units @ 75 ft x 150 ft @ 13,600 sq ft selling at RM988k unit
Funny thing, all the units look the same to me.

Wah, i go 'kei poh' around, found out all units sold already. Many are converting their unit at the moment.

Wow.. been away for only a few days... there are so many newbies around with one 'mind'. Smell like something hairy here.

Since we are talking about the good, the bad and the ugly, let me share my littlte experience with you guy. I was like all newbie, so lost and so naive. I knew next to nothing about swiftlet farming yet i have a keen interest. So i asked around and are introduced to this guy. Let's call him Ah H. Ah H promise me the sky without even looking at my shoplot. Being new and not knowing that one needs to do sound test at site to gauge the suitability of the place for swiftlet farming, i readily agreed to let him convert my shoplot into a BH. To cut a long story short, i was brought back down to earth months later.

Moral of the story 'Know what you are doing, only do what you knows'.


So lesson learned, i had wisen up quite a bit. I started to surf the net to look for more info. Along the way i read up a few good books on swiftlet farming. Now,i can tell a white from a black. Clever.. eh.
Then i came to know this person. He never promised me the sky and he never claimed to be an expert. But there is something about this guy that i liked, he tell you thing like it is, no beating around the bushes even if it is bitter to swallow.

Another moral story 'To be told the truth even if it is not nice to hear is always better than to be lied to '.



OK, i finished my stories already. Now if you read today's star page N26 'SINGLE MUM NEEDS YOUR HELP', this woman really pitiful please help if you can. Thank you.

Sad to read about the situations in Sarawak. In any situations where it involved a lot of peoples there are bound to be conflicting views and actions. Adds money to the list and you will have mistrust and scepticism. These are human natures. But for their own's sake, sarawakian BHs owner should come together and be united. Even as i'm against being confrontational but if getting a court injunction is the best solution, so be it. Therefore i urged all sarawakian BHs owner to chip in to the legal fund. RM4k is peanut considering that hundred of thousands are at stake. Don't be sen wise, ringgit foolish. Show the 'paloi' people that you are united and will exhaust all avenues in defending your rice bowl. I pray that all went well.

Hope i don't step on any toes, just offering my unsolicited views.
ps: i learned a new word today... AMPUT

Commenting on my earlier post, could it be that the message did not get accross to majority of the BHs owner in sarawak? Knowing that Sarawak is a big state and maybe most owners are from elsewhere and not everyone read the paper or are internet savvy...it won't be suprising that most of them do not know efforts are being taken to obtains a court injunction to stop the masacre. That could be the reason not many step forwards.

Just a suggestion... why not print lots of leaflet to that effect with details of contact persons, legal team etc. and leave one each at every BH. I though this could help. If already been there done that then great..

I'm blushing it's nothing compare to what you and the other esteemed forumer has contributed.