It is better to have all the holes exposed so we know how to patch them with the best solution rather than let them hidden and become booby traps that kill us later.

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Added on March 5, 2010, 10:37 pmUnderstand till todate it is between 4.2 to 4.5/kg for the 1st grade.


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Hmmm........... I think you are right!!!!....Patent "prostitution (method)" is at least 100X more profitable than doing BH ..... I want to share with you to patent it......then we form a sdn bhd and go for listing. We offer the IPO to all V2 members.....we sent hundreds of patent rights collecting agents to all the red light distrcts and brothels and all hotels and even to every home.........Wah......sure kaya overnight..... Can forget about the BH and the 1GP problem.......but you better specify the methods in detail lah.....there are so many styles......hahahahahahahahahhahaa..............

Where is the location? What is the company's name? How much is the price for the new shop?

Yes, please pm me the details, thanks.

Must be another politician crony's project capitalizing on the 1GP situation lah.......

Quote WW

Come May, we shall have plentiful at our dinning table........WW .......Wine and Women....Opp so sorry...just joking lah so don't feel offended my pretty ladies.

Wah, glad to know our WW starts talking of women and wine, thought after repairing your buttock last yr would take you long time to even think of this. That really worries us..... DL said that shows WW already got back strength of the tiger. Next time, in case, he has to whack again, he wants to hijack u to go along.......kekekeke............



Huh??? your are now a 4 star General? Must salute u, man....

This post has been edited by Lucas 1: Mar 11 2010, 09:04 PM

Chank,

What holiday????? I thought u alredi retired and everyday is a holiday to u??????

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4. I appreciate that many leaders like DL are trying very hard to push thru all BHs @ towns to be allowed to remain but it shall be a uphill task because we can never get 100% of what we want even if we have opposition parties as government and it maybe worst as DAP is 100% against the BH@Town; PAS is OK if for the money to fill their coffer ..........pls. do correct me cos I hope that my statement is wrong.


Just discussed with DL and some old vanguards of the above and they have the followings to clarify and they wish to refresh the memory of some old comrades who might have forgotten. DL and his comrades have been fighting for the rights for not only the BHs in towns but also for the whole industry as a whole as this bird’s nest industry is a god sent to all Malaysians regardless of ethnic and this is a new resource that will definitely bring in a lot of much needed foreign revenue to do good for Malaysia and its people during this dwindling economy of Malaysia. Actually all of us are fighting against a small group of LITTLE NAPOLEONS hidden inside the Malaysia Civil Service who are trying to create a lot of unnecessary bureaucratic lengthy and crazy procedures to, instead of helping to tap its potential for the people and the country, crippling and killing it slowly for their personal hidden agenda and gains. Why couldn’t the Civil Service just treat this industry like any normal petty trade and cottage industry and simplify all the procedure with existing by-laws? DL has attended and resolved countless BH cases and incidents involving the Local Govt across the country. He could literally read out their mindset. By creating lengthy and complicated bureaucratic procedure putting the owners into troubles and difficulties, these LITTLE NAPOLEONS have been fishing something out. Mind you, this small group happens to be those in the positions that could mislead the leaders in their respective departments. They are supposed to be professionally trained but do not act or practice professionally. This group is the ones that are giving this industry the real problems and are misguiding the top leaders and the people to Holland. DL and his comrades are not fending for those selfish BH owners who are causing nuisances to the neighbourhood. They only fight for those who behave and abide the laws.


It is not fair to jump in to allege that a certain political party is 100% against the BHs in towns. There are leaders in all the political parties who are for and against this industry. Most of the leaders who were against this industry were actually new, misinformed and misled initially. Eventually, after having a clearer picture and better in-depth understanding of this industry, they started to support this industry.


Just to quote a few incidents to substantiate. The first incident in the history of going against BH in Malaysia happened in year 2000 in Nibong Tebal of Penang. There was a group of Pre-war shop-house tenants asked by the landlord to vacate the buildings after the DE-CONTROL OF PRE-WAR BUILDING ACT came into force in 2000 felt unsatisfied and formed a ANTI SWIFTLET HOUSE TASKFORCE picketing against an existing BH of their old landlord in N. Tebal. This landlord was an active MCA member. The leader who led the protest happened to be the lady YB ADUN of N.Tebal and who is also MCA and a rival in the PARTY to the landlord. There was speculation that it was caused because of the MCA team A and team B.


Again it was in 2004/05 that the same group instigated by the same lady YB pressurized the former Penang Gerakan led BN Govt to clamp down on all BHs in Penang. This State Govt under the leadership of Dr Koh Tzu Koon and Dr Teng H. N was in great dilemma as they also viewed this was a good industry benefitting the people and the state and more over many of the BH owners are members from MCA, UMNO, GERAKAN, MIC as well as DAP, PAS and PKR. While the State Govt was also misguided and misled by a certain LITTLE NAPOLEONS in the Council in particularly MPSP trying to start clamping down the BHs, DL and his comrades were approached and requested by the majority Penang BH for help. They organized and formed a taskforce with counter action by nightly picketed rotating in many towns with the turnout of hundreds BH owners nightly and concurrently pressured the Exco in charge for a dialogue. Finally an agreement was reached and licenses were issued to the existing 1000 odd BHs in 2006.


Again in Perak in 2005, the LITTLE NAPOLEONS from the Councils were causing a lot of hardship and victimizing the BH owners who were members from all political parties. DL and his comrades were requested and they spearheaded and pro-actively conducted numerous meetings with both the BN Sate Govt and the DAP and the hundreds of owners in closed door as well as open dialogues. Finally an official meeting cum open dialogue was arranged amicably in Sitiawan between the then Exco Dato Chang from Gerakan, YB ADUN and now Dato Geh from DAP, DL and His comrades and the hundreds of Perak BH owners. Immediate after the meeting, the State Govt instructed all the Councils to accept license applications from all BH owners in Perak.


In 2002, in Melaka, the competition in attracting of birds among just a few BHs belonged to a certain local taikoh and some outsider new comers caused a near to disaster for all the other hundred BH owners. Their competition in the indiscriminate blasting of the bird sound almost round the clock disrupted the peace of the neighbourhood and invited complaints from all the locals. There were pickets cum protests against the BHs by the hundreds of the locals wanting the State Govt to shut down all the BHs in Melaka. The best part is this was organized jointly by both the MCA and the DAP of Melaka. The Melaka State Govt passed a resolution in June to inform all the BH owners giving them six months ending 01.01.2003 to either voluntarily close shop or face forced eviction. DL was requested to go to Melaka to help. After a meeting was held between DL and his comrades and the Exco in charge, Dato Wira Gan, the issue was settled with peace returned to Melaka and the existing BHs remained status quo till today.


In the past till very presently in Johor, Why no BH license was issued? Who are the BH owners? Mostly members from all the political parties. Who are in the ruling parties in the Johor State Govt? The UMNO and the MCA. Who are the Johor ECO-PARKs owners? Mostly belong to Govt-Linked Companies (GLC) or privately owned Companies. Who are sitting inside the Board of Directors of these companies? The UMNO and MCA YBs or strong men.


Our dear friend, Mr WW, you have put up a rather serious allegation which in the opinion of the old timers cum vanguards that you could be misinformed or slipped of the mind. You asked for correction if your statement could be wrong. So, we just want to refresh your memory with the above factual incidents and events for your wisdom to determine who the real culprits and enemies to not only this industry but also Malaysia as a whole are.


May be some of you here could have participated or involved in either one or all these historical incidents or events mentioned or know about it from your seniors would like to confirm that the above stories are not fabricated.

THE MAIN OBSTACLE THREATENING THE SURVIVAL OF THE BIRD NEST HOUSES IN HERITAGE ZONE

Regarding the rather imminent problems faced by the BHs in Heritage zoning of Penang. In our Opinion, the BHs and the Heritage building could actually co-exist with absolute no problem at all. The swiftlet is also a living heritage of Penang. The Penang Heritage Trust (PHT) only has the jurisdiction, duty and interest to ensure that all heritage buildings should have the external look or façade intact. In another word, the PHT only wants those heritage buildings with their external look as old as possible but not run down. They do not have the jurisdiction or legal right to dictate the owners of what they should or could do inside the building. So, as long as the owners could agree or ensure to cooperate to re-renovate or maintain the outlook of their heritage buildings as heritage as possible, we do not see any valid reason why the PHT want to continue to object? Just like if a owner leaves the building idle or operates an illegal 4-D operation or a prostitute den inside the building, the PHT has absolutely no jurisdiction or authority to say yes or no. We do not think that the officials inside PHT are unreasonable people as all of them are known highly respectable and professional volunteers. Question here is, have both the parties ever sat down peacefully with real sincerity for a friendly dialogue or interaction wanting to resolve the situation for a win-win to co-exist for the good of Penang? So far, it is to our knowledge that no such important formal meeting has ever been held yet. Why not? We would suggest that the representatives from the BH owners should initiate to request PHT for such a dialogue. In this case, the recognized representatives should be committee or recognized respectable persons from the existing Associations.


There are presently two Associations in Penang, the Penang Bird’s Nest Merchants Association (MERCHANTS) and the ASNI. It seems the MERCHANTS is almost dormant, ineffective and inactive, so it is left with only ASNI to spearhead. If the committee of the association is really committed and living up to the expectation and have the welfare and interest of the members and owners in their hearts sincerely, they should start doing something positive pro-actively to interact with the PHT by now to clear the misunderstanding rather than waiting like sitting duck for the official announcement of the launching of the 1GP which may not materialize in the near future as we have been promised far too many times. Please bear in mind, BHs under Heritage Law is very unique and different a lot from the others. Also remember that such dialogue is to seek win-win and not to win all nor for war.


WE HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS BUT MUST ENSURE THAT OUR RIGHTS DO NOT INFRINGE ON OTHERS’ RIGHTS, AND THEN ONLY OUR RIGHTS ARE RIGHT.


The BH owners do not have the right to cause misery and nuisance to the neighbourhood. Once, they infringe that, the BH owners already lose the right to operate the BH. The PHT has the right to ensure that all heritage buildings must be maintained and look like a heritage building externally. But the PHT does not have the right to dictate the owners what they should do inside their own buildings.


If the related association/associations is too weak, too slow or ineffective to spearhead, may we suggest the SMI Association of Penang to get involved and take active role. The SMI Association does have the obligation and duty to be involved as they do have many members owning BHs inside Heritage core zone of Penang. And the bird nest industry also falls under its jurisdiction. Understand that, before the formation of ASNI, the SMI was the sole main organization and representative on behalf of the BH owners participated actively in the earlier official dialogues and meetings with the State Govt. Why is SMI not continuing its duty now? We think that the SMI with its vast experience and resources and much bigger member base and better organized with a lot more talents should take the leading role as from now again.

Totally agree with u. There is totally or 100% no way to move or shift any swiftlet to where we want them to go.......If any person or Govt Official ever suggests that, it shows either they are con-men, idiots or not fit or qualified to be in the position.......no need to give face or respect to such idiots......just whack and condemn them.....as they are asking for it......and deserve it...It is a 100% total loss including all future income to the owner if any idiot trying to shift any swiftlet.....

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WHAT IS THE MOST TRUE AND GENUINE PUBLIC NUISANCE IN THIS COUNTRY AND WHY THEY ARE NOT SHOT BY FIRING SQUAD?

There are few coffee shops and night spots in major towns drawing big crowds operating till wee hours nightly. The crowds do cause a lot of nuisance disturbing the peace of the neighbourhood. There are thousands of motor cyclists get killed on the Malaysia roads yearly. Some involved killings of innocent pedestrians due to reckless, dangerous or inconsiderate riding of the motor cyclists. All these are considered public nuisances. So, is our Govt going to indiscriminately close down all coffee shops and suspend all motor cyclists from riding motor cycles in the country? Similarly, there are too numerous type of businesses and activities in one way or another do cause some nuisances either intentionally or unwittingly. Is the Govt just for all the convenience, going to declare under PUBLIC NUISANCE and close down all? The word PUBLIC NUISANCE covers very broadly and generally and it is nuisance that is really affecting the interest of the vast majority of the public, and then only is considered PUBLIC NUISANCE. It should not be anyhow misused.



A very fine and truly befitting good example that nobody dare deny and can definitely be declared under the PUBLIC NUISANCE is; as we, Malaysians including toddlers do know that there exists overwhelming corruptions, abusive of power, abuse of position, cronyism etc,etc in our many elected people representatives and senior Govt servants while executing their duty to serve the people seemingly. Such actions are indeed most gravely affecting the interest of all the citizen and the fate of the country and this wrong doing is in fact the most genuine PUBLIC NUISANCE. If this happens in China, the perpetrators found guilty are shot to death by firing squad in public.

IMPENDING ONSLAUGHT ON THE MALAYSIA BIRD’S NEST INDUSTRY SOON

Dear fellow BH owners and all dependents on the industry in Malaysia,


Our worst hidden worries and fears regarding the industry is definitely and finally coming true soon. If you ever scrutinize carefully between the lines of the news in the papers of the tabling of the amendment of the PERHILITAN ACTs of yesterday by the Minister of the Environment to the Parliament, you are going to sense that the PERHILITAN is again going by the back door to mislead the Parliament and the whole FED GOVT to play the industry out, and this time it is a catastrophic to all with none to spare. Again, the PERHILITAN, without any consultation with the market players, has gone quietly to propose something which is the onslaught on the Bird’s nest industry. If the ACTs were to go through which I think it will as no one aware and to object, would be the biggest scandalous issue and hell to all of us ever. It is going to be the nightmare for all. If this passes through, that means it is going to be offence committed for possessing even a piece of house nest. Everything you touch on the swiftlet whether it is cave or house nest, you need the PERHILITAN permit and license in advance and to follow their bureaucratic procedures strictly. Previously, it was controversial and ambiguous on the house cultivated nest. But this time, they are making it very clear. Thanks to our idiot BN Fed Govt which I also stupidly supported up to recently, the Little Napoleons in the Civil Service and also our so self proclaimed Fed Association for the negotiation on our behalves. I am at the loss of speech now. Think all of you can go and confirm my worst fear. But before you do that, for those who are not so strong in health, please make sure, you don’t forget to take your heart pill or anti- stress pill and stand by a lot of sleeping pills. I am not joking. I hope I do.


It looks like the only thing all of you can do for the time being and urgently, is to pray hard to all the gods to ensure the BN doesn’t win the by-election in Hulu Selangor on this coming Sunday, 25th April 2010. So that that could be some bargaining power later. Besides praying hard to the god like a sitting duck, might as well every one of us do something positive to help in to alert all BH owners call up or to remind those you know who are outstation voters in Hulu Selangor to return timely to vote against the evil and the corrupt. If the BN wins, for sure, this industry would face further onslaught. By the time you read this bad news, you have less than 24hrs for self help. It looks like we are not given the choice or option by now.


Sorry to all brothers for highlighting this unwelcoming news and also heartfelt sorry to many who may go burst or bankrupt soon.

Many top Muslim political leaders have been eating bird’s nest regularly for ages. Known examples are Tok Guru Nik Aziz, Tun Ma, Najlis and his Ninja Turtle wife……etc……… There are a number of enterprises owned solely by Muslims only selling bird’s nest products in the market for a few years……….

Yes, did hear this Dato Tok is a rather more fair, just and committed personality and not a power craze with hidden agenda. Can be considered a good guy and is many times better than the other Dato who the locals and those know him long and deep considered a wild animal and maneater like the Tasmanian ghost who donesn't chew but swallow whole including own brothers and followers. Only those newbies new but far from him think he is good man cos he is Dato......wait and see........if u walk too close with him......

Can anyone please help to scrutinize what is the new definition of the “bird’s nest” in the new ACT proposed? Bird’s nest is a very general name. In law, it must be very specific. It must not be ambiguous. It can be sparrow or mynah bird's nest too. Does it mention anything of cave bird’s nest from the natural caves under the PERHILITAN’s absolute jurisdiction and the cultivated house bird’s nest from man-made structure? Remember, it is just like the word, “chicken” or “fowl” which covers the AYAM HUTAN, a totally protected species under PERHILITAN and AYAM DAGING from our own backyard which we can slaughter as we please. It is also analogical to the WILD ORCHIDS from the jungle and those farm cultivated orchids.


AYAM HUTAN and WILD ORCHIDs fall under PERHILITAN’s jurisdiction, whereas AYAM DAGING is under HAIWAN and cultivated orchids under PERTANIAN. I think there are many more such examples. Also, it is just like the wild AROWANA caught from the rivers is under PERHILITAN. You need a prior approval in writing from PERHILITAN to hunt one and another license to keep it. But you don’t need PERHILITAN’s approval to rear those farm bred AROWANAs. Licensing of such AROWANA farm is issued by the PERIKANAN. The wild cat from the jungle is under PERHILITAN. But don’t think our house ***** CAT is also under them? Think all of you can help in to start thinking and checking of more such examples. We can jointly help compile all these here and later have these facts passed quickly over to the representatives from the so-called associations for them to refer to a panel specialized lawyers to verify and to clarify once and for all with the PERHILITAN and the Minister concerned. I think may be a court clarification is unavoidable. This ambiguous situation has been there for too long and it has bred too much of victimizations and corruptions on the industry by the kaki tangan. The Department concerned is definitely abusing its power. We must do it fast. Anyone here is a lawyer or has lawyer friends to consult with?


This is the association committee’s duty to do it, don’t understand why they didn’t do it? What have they been doing all this while? 30th of this month is the AGM. Hope that there will be someone from within bringing this matter up urgently. Are this committee there just warming up the seats and to rub shoulder with the big shots for personal hidden agenda and lead the whole industry to Holland?


Concurrently may be some here could download the proposed ACTs and make official complaints to your respective local MPs regardless he is from BN or PR. Someone from Hulu Selangor can start giving the 1st important task to the newly elected MP to see if he is what he claimed. I am not joking. This is a very good case for him, a national one.


Always remember, most of our YBs are seemingly very busy with too many functions and free dinners and they are no SUPER MAN. Do not expect them to know everything. Many of them don’t know laws. Some could be a lot more stupid than us. Some of them talk worse than an illiterate kampong old folk. Their P.A is normally smarter than them. So, please have the case or complaint well documented and pass it officially with many extra copies to them for their convenience after you brief them. Make sure you let him sign and acknowledge on your copy and give you a date to reply you. If you don’t do that, you will find your document disappear the next minute. You must keep your own copy and standby more for them again later. See both your ADUNs and MPs even though such case is normally under MP. At least, the ADUN can help you to chase him too. Possible bring along few more to be witnesses. In Malaysia, the more people you bring along to see the YB, the higher respect he gives you and more serious he would view the case. If you go alone by yourself, he would tell you, “Aiya, ini tadak apa lah. U orang kaya lah. Sikit sikit U pun mau kira.” Making very sure you make the complaint direct to him and no one else. Also you must be sure he does really understand your complaint and its nature.


Please bear in mind, they are YBs elected by you. YB stands for Yang Berkhidmat, it means they are at our service. If they interpret it as Yang Berhormat, then, Yang Berbodoh suits them better.


Also please help check on the powers and the jurisdictions of the PERHILITAN. Think their power is only limited strictly on certain wild-life bred and caught in the wild.

WAKE UP CALL



Met a lawyer friend, casually discussed briefly over the proposed WIFELIFE ACT 2010, he warned seriously that we mustn’t take thing lightly. The term BIRD’S NEST is too general. Rightfully and professionally, it shouldn’t be that general and must be very specifically defined. If it is true that the term BIRD’S NEST is used, and if the ACT is really passed, then the PERHILITAN will be vested with more power to have jurisdiction on all types of bird’s nest whether protected or unprotected. By that time, in his professional opinion, the industry is definitely at the mercy of the PERHILITAN. He further stressed that since the ACT has tabled for the 1st reading and the PARLIAMENT session has just ended. The ACT would be tabled for the 2nd and also the final reading in the next session and considered passed after that.


He wondered why the associations are not consulted and why the associations are not doing anything. He further suggested that the Associations must quickly do something such as engaging a panel of lawyers specialized in constitution laws to study it and to stop it such as immediately create awareness by alerting the Ministers concerned and through all the MPs officially before too late while there are still a couple of months before next PARLIAMENT session. He warned that the PERHILITAN is definitely having a hidden agenda in doing this and is misleading the Minister. It wouldn’t be that simple and sincere.


So, my dear friends please quickly alert your respective association on this urgent situation and request them to seek a second professional opinion as soon as possible. Meanwhile, please also on your own consult and check with your own lawyer friend who is good and familiar with constitutional laws to confirm our fear. I think time is very short.

WW, thank you for taking all the troubles to attend the AGM and to inform us the so-called seemingly “good news” which you seemed to be happy with that you heard from FED ASSO committee. We wouldn’t want to correct you as you are entitled to your own opinion and we respect it, and we have no intention to offend anyone or to hide anything except to share a piece of our mind and findings honestly and straight to the points with facts. These are just our humble opinion, observations and also worry. We have no time to be ball carriers as our lifelines are at great stake and high risk now. Nowadays, many of us can only sleep with sleeping pills, may be you are the exception.


How sure are you that this good news is really going to materialize eventually? How much confidence you have on these characters to really perform up to the expectation as a committed and sincere committee with no personal agenda? Can you guarantee that these are not RUMOURS that they are spreading and now through you, someone trusted and respected by most of us, exploiting your ignorance, sincerity and trustworthiness to cover up their inability and inefficiency?



Why majority BH owners in Malaysia do not have good feeling and confidence on this FED ASSO committee? There must be a valid reason. So far, what have they done for the industry that has proven beneficial to the industry for the past years that convinced the owners and invited their confidence for them? It seems that the more they represented the owners in the negotiation, the more problems are created for this industry and the owners? The owners only asked for a simple straight forward LESEN PREMIS from the Local Govt under the existing Local By-Laws. And now, it attracted more and more departments wanting to be involved with more lasso intended to hang the owners. Did you realise and ask yourself? Before they formed the FEDERATION of ASSOCIATIONS two years back and claimed wanting to represent the owners, the owners did not have so much rubbish and nonsense faced. Why did they entertain the unreasonable requests to interfere into our industry by irrelevant departments? Today, even the SIRIM BOARD is proposing all BHs must apply to them for chip identification so all the nests can be audit traced. I think they are going to force owners to insert a microchip into every piece of nest harvested soon. 95% owners are just small passive investors just like the rubber or oil palm small holders owning an acre or two in the backyard. We are not big estates owners like those big PUBLIC LISTED COMPANIES such as SIME DARBY or IOI. What the various departments are contemplating now is more justified to govern the multimillion or billion ECO-PARKS, not the small owners.


It cannot be that so many people are blinded? A truly responsible committee of a responsible association must first of all really committed to their members in doing and reporting progress of important matter affecting the interest of the members in a very transparent way voluntarily. They must always remember that this is a members’ association and not a private limited company whereby they are the majority share holders. There is no reason or excuse to withhold important info from any member as all members have the right to know whether requested or not especially on matter that affects their immediate interest or lifeline dearly. There shall prevail with no secret as this is a members association unless someone is trying to exploit situation hijacking the association or doing illegal things for personal agenda or gains at the expense of the members. A good set of committee should periodically, voluntarily and timely inform members through EGMs or newsletters the latest development and progress of urgent matters to comfort them and also requesting feedbacks and positive opinions and suggestions from members. They should not do thing in the black box with whim and hiding things from members as if running a sendirian berhad or secret society. What if things don’t turn out good like what they said? What if the 1GP comes out with a lot shocking conditions affecting most members except themselves? I personal think that I would prefer to be alerted by RUMOURS and have sleepless nights and on the constant lookout to do some timely positive self-rescue than to bet and place all my life-savings on these already known unscrupulous and irresponsible committee, and later when 1GP announced, find myself bankrupt overnight. By that time, are this non-committed committee going to compensate us? Or do you dare to chop them with a parang? My friend, how much do you know the characters you mentioned of their integrity, credibility, reputations and true BAD GROUND? Please go and find out from the old timers or the locals from where they are from. Hope you don’t get shocked to heart attack when truth reviewed. Do you also know that some of them are partners in ECO-PARKS? And I am telling you it is a rumour now to you until you confirm it later yourself. Or you are so convinced and happy with sound sleep after hearing what they said to you and prepared to let them toss your luck for you?


All the news started as rumours or speculations. Normally, there wouldn’t be smoke without fire. If it is bad rumour affecting us, it alerts us and prompts us to investigate to find out early and that may give us chance and ample time to rectify and reverse a situation to our interest. If we, after hearing of rumour and still take thing easy without doing anything positive, if this rumour turns out true and against our interest, then we better bite our own ass. Remember, we welcome rumours as we may have the time and chance to blend a bad rumour into good news or to stop it from happening. I don’t think there is anybody here who is too free and comfortable wanting to give us a hoax or prank to frighten us for amusement.



1GP and PERHILITAN AMENDED ACTS 2010 are totally two different matters. 1GP is only a guidelines and it does not really have executive power. It merely guides and recommends and to refer you to the respective departments involved to apply for the necessary approvals and permits according to their set rules and conditions with the executive power vested by the CONSTITUTION to them. From what we already know, the departments involved would be, PERHILTIAN, VETERINAR, LOCAL COUNCILS, SIRIM BOARD, TOWN PLANNING, KESIHATAN and many more to come. From what I can see, in order to get an official approval to operate a small BH of only a floor whether in towns or in suburbs, and to maintain and do the necessary businesses or works relating to it after the official launching of the 1GP, one would need to obtain the numerous approvals from all the above mentioned departments with no exemption. It sounds like as if all of us are setting up a multimillion ecology unfriendly factory. Can you imagine in total how many licenses or permits we need to obtain before we can operate a BH? With the PERHILITAN AMENDMENT ACTS 2010 passed by June, regardless of the 1GP, can you guess how many licenses we need to apply and get approved from just PERHILITAN alone? License to keep swiftlet in BH, license to harvest, license to sell, license to buy, and license to………….etc. How many folds of bureaucratic lengthy and troublesome procedures given extra from PERHILITAN, let’s not to talk of licenses or permissions from other departments subsequently? Do we call that convenience and facilitation to the people encouraged by the 1MALAYSIA concept? It is totally contrary to what we are already enjoying existing in certain states or townships like Penang, Pahang, Perak, Melaka, Kelantan etc which have already issued BH licenses years ago. And only one license is required, that is from the Local Council only. And it is licensed under PETTY TRADE AND COTTAGE INDUSTRY. No involvement of any other department. Not much harassments or extortion of coffee money from the kaki tangan. This is that simple. But when the 1GP is launched or the PERHILITAN amended ACTS passed, this Lesen Premis will be revoked. Do you know how much of extra bribes needed to satisfy the kaki tangan from so many departments besides the official payments and fees? This is no rumour or speculation or slandering to our Govt. This is the true fact and nothing but the truth of our civil services. If there is no demand of coffee money then it cannot be Malaysia. We must be in Heaven then. If anyone not agreed, then challenge me? I think there is at least one thousand and one from this forum would step forward to confirm and back me. Is it how our PM going to encourage and help this industry under his 1MALAYSIA concept? Making things more difficult and complicated and miserable? Are our PM and his Ministers so blind and naïve to think that their supporting departments are doing well to garner increased support from the people for his 1MALAYSIA with these rubbish given to the people? So, where are we heading now?



I said that 1GP and PERHILITAN AMENDMENT ACTS 2010 are two different matters again as it doesn’t matter whether 1GP is going to be finalised or not, this industry will definitely face an immediate onslaught from the PERHILITAN which to our knowledge, this department has been dying to suck our blood for so long, after the June Parliament session if no one alerts and highlights to the PM, Ministers and all the MP timely to review the whole situation especially to withdraw the PERHILITAN AMENDED ACTS for further review and revision. The scenario right now is like this industry is in a HEALTH SPA feeling very hot but tolerable. And very soon, the industry will have no choice but to be forced not jumping from hot pan to fire but into both hot pan and fire altogether. Just imagine, the present PERHILITAN ACT only empowers the PERHILITAN to have jurisdiction on the AEROFRAMUS FACIPHAGUS in natural caves. Nothing mentioned on the cultivated A.F. nests from manmade sanctuaries. That is the reason why till today they could not enforce forcibly what they are trying to claim that BH is under their jurisdiction. How could the cultivated nests be under their jurisdiction? But still they exploited the ambiguity and grey area in the ACT by imposing illegitimate EXIT TAX on the export of bird’s nest and also that so far nobody takes the trouble to challenge them in court yet. But how many innocent foreigners and tourists already fallen victims to the corrupted officials in the airports while carrying gifts of bird’s nest out? Some foreigners were even jailed without trial for refusing to give bribe. The PERHILITAN PENGARAH knew it and are now trying to justify their intended hidden agenda for long term and for more kills and to legalize it and to widen their jurisdiction by amending the ACTS now by very unprofessionally misleading the PARLIAMENT to pass it in a blanket as BIRDS’ NEST WHETHER PROTECTED OR UNPROTECTED. Chicken and ducks are also birds. The PERHILITAN has been eyeing on this industry as a big piece of cake all along. It is a known fact that this department is a very controversial infamous Govt agency. We are not speculating or spreading rumour as just very recently a certain constitutional power was transferred from the Director-General to the Minister in the news. Why transfer? I think this is a scandalous precedence in Malaysia history. What a mockery? Rightfully in practice, the Govt could just interdict the DG pending MACC investigation and appoint an acting DG. This indicates that there isn’t any more credible senior officer in the department that can be trusted.



Many of us can predict and expect that once the amended ACTS passed in June and to enforce, the whole industry will instantly go into a limbo with outcries, curses and swearing on the present Federal Govt from the millions of rakyats affected. Picketing and protests will spontaneously occur across the whole nation. Soon another round of political tsunami may even be bigger than the 308 tsunami is in the making if our PM is still not alert in time and not careful. The PERHILITAN is definitely helping to open the back door of our PM for his enemies. We do not want to be involved in politics and wish to remain apolitical. But how can we continue to support the side that is giving us miseries and nightmares?



Since your boss, the President and the committee of the FED ASSO are so efficient and smart, why are they that insensitive and failed to see the immediate danger faced by the industry and to respond immediately on the PERHILITAN issue? Why was this not seriously deliberated in the AGM and to pass a resolution to protest? Isn’t the AGM is the most suitable and convenient meeting for finding solutions for these urgent issues? Why can’t your boss discuss out openly with all the members at least in the AGM regarding the situations faced and the undergoing counter actions taken by the committee to overcome them? Why does he need you to get individual to call him personally? Why so secretive? What compromise were they talking about? Could they be the proxy or agents for the Govt department? Could they trade in the BH owners’ interest for their own? A Trojen in the build? Good reason for everyone to suspect. After all, most of the leaders are strong men from MCA claiming to have strong cable. This is the main reason they are allowed to volunteer to be committee. Our situation wasn’t that good 2 years back. But it seems it has become worse since they represented the owners. Anybody disagree?


Is this a rumour we heard that the top committee had no time for more detailed discussion under other matters arising that they left in hurry to pay respect to late Lim Goh Tong after the AGM with even no dinner prepared for those committee and representatives who took the troubles to drive long distance or to fly in to attend the grand AGM? Do you call them, committed, dedicated capable and efficient committee? And you are very happy with their lame excuses? Do you, honestly, really can sleep well?



Understand that there are already no less than 100 swiftlet associations in Malaysia. Is it true that only within 18 to 20 associations are associated with this FEDERATION OF ASSOCIATIONS? Do you really think that this FED ASSO have the true representation of the industry? In this case, do you know that anybody could just kick-start a NATIONAL ASSOCIATION safely claiming to represent all by just recruiting one member each from at least 7 states under the law?


Hope you can sleep soundly without pills after this. Anyway, this is not directed to you, nothing personal for you are the good guy.

This post has been edited by Lucas 1: May 3 2010, 10:26 PM

I still think these idiots don't really realize the seriousness and the negative impact the PERHILITAN AMEMDED ACT would do on the industry.......Once it is official means it is passed and firmed, then it is going to like climbimg Mt Everest to repeal it........It has to be stopped by the MPs before the next session like the tabling of the GST bill......The only way now is to alert the respective MP to make them aware and understand the consequence if passed......or another way, someone needs to bring to the notice of NAJLIS.........guess he would not like the idea of the PERHILITAN......unless he wants to take chance in the next General Election.....which could be his last battle.....

The FED ASSO committee is definitely barking at the wrong tree....banging too much on the 1GP.........the real culprit that will cripple the industry is the PERHILITAN.........

There is a Chinese saying: your money is in the bank, but you are in the Heaven. My friend, try your best to avoid having LAL between floors. There are far too many mishaps and accidents from this type of design which led to many permanently maimed or disabled with fatal cases caused to the owners and consultants for the past years. Almost every year, we hear such misfortunes. Most of them are filthy rich. Such type of design is a booby-trap to the owners. So, do be careful and to reconsider.

If you insist on the design, then try to have the railing few more feet away from the LAL and the height is at least 3 feet. Need not have too many standing struts but must be firm. Remember, it is going to be very dark inside that a regular can still lose direction esp that when you look up at planks for sign of nests.