Anyone have specific news about VALHALLA care to share here please..

As an aspiring X360 owner I am in a dilemma, go and get a JASPER series X360 or wait for the rumored X360 VALHALLA.. Guys.. Help me! =)

Jasper if you want to enjoy games now.
Valhalla If you want to enjoy games.. few month/year later.

Some site say Valhalla will be out at late 2009 or 2010..
Which cant be confirm rite >_<"

And Valhalla not confirm is better than Jasper. Maybe more problem than Jasper since it combines the CPU and GPU together which if not done properly, may cause problems.

Hmm.. Both sifus makes alot of sense haha.. =)

But I've heard tat Jasper DVD drives are very noisy? - Is it true?

Most sources from the Net reports that Valhalla should be a price cut due to the simplified content.. Hmm?

Would appreciate more enlightenment here.. Hehe.. =D

I'm not sifu. I haven't got an xbox 360 yet. I want to buy one so I've been doing researching on xbox 360 and I think Jasper is the best right now.

Yes, most people complain the drive is noisy. The solution is to install the game into the xbox 360's HDD and the noise will be reduced.

Yes, Valhalla is said to be cheaper since it combines CPU and GPU together.

dun care what they do , just remove RROD shit and they can combine the whole thing hard disk and cpu and gpu all together for all i care

Jasper like out not too long ago, if u wait then dunno how long is the wait.

U tahan lor ;p

Lol.. Cannot tahan ar.. So probably gonna get a JASPER..

Hmm.. Is VALHALLA really quieter than JASPER? Or is it only Speculation?

speculations

not sure when its going 2 be out also anyways

Ya wor.. So i'm looking for information on this VALHALLA X360.. Anyone have information please kindly share ya! =)

Thanks a bunch~ =D

i think when ms release valhalla, sure there are rumor about next-gen console. and there u goes again with the dilemma. so just buy jasper and hope it will not 3rod so fast. lol

Dude, grab a Jasper now and enjoy the games. SF4 is out, RE5 on the way.

Games matter, not the console. Who cares bout the little noise when you tune into the game.

install the game into teh HD, wala...no noise =)

by the time you get ur valhalla...

You :Finally!!!! after years of waiting!!!!i get to buy my Valhalla!!!!
Microsoft : Introducing the new 4th gen XBOX!!!!
You : =.=

This post has been edited by wilsonjay: Feb 17 2009, 01:14 PM

Valhalla > Jasper > Falcon

... Jasper & Valhalla 'apparently' the ones to get.

I think when Valhalla is released... Xbox 3 will be on the horizon already. But Microsoft being Microsoft, won't give any hint about Xbox 3. Gamers would rush to get (or try) Valhalla. Then a few months later... Xbox 3 announced.

... next-gen Halo already in development for Xbox 3 (heard about it last year)... so 2010/early 2011 is most likely for Xbox 3.




This post has been edited by defaultname365: Feb 17 2009, 01:19 PM

hahaha..wait for ur valhalla.. by the time u are just enjoying ur valhalla..ppl are switching to other gen already...bye bye..

jasper is oredi gud ba.. buy jasper jek

buy jasper

i simply lol at ppl who thinks so hard about the dvd noise jasper make. so far i haven't receive any comments or reports from my neighbors yet. nor the comments from the ppl sleeping in the room beside me.

trust me, when your audio system is at full blast (be it playing GOW2, Halo 3, Forza, Fable 2 or even Uno), you won't notice a thing about it.

stop being so picky and just buy the damn thing.

care only about games as that what's gamers do. nitpicking will get you nowhere.

so what if Valhalla will be quieter? the next revision could probably be MUCH quieter. hence, should you wait for the system AFTER Valhalla?

LOL!

since jasper have been quite stable so far. i wonder does MS will still spent their resources to develop Valhalla. it would seem more logic if they concentrate on next gen xbox, some more now also got rumours about ps4 already.

+1 !

bye bye TS.. u'll be enjoying ur xbox360 while we're already enjoying xbox720.

Some more we need to wait even longer for Valhalla to reach Malaysia.

By the way, is the HDMI Audio update fixed by MS?

I also wanted to get a Jasper but you know, this economic crisis...sigh...dunno parents will buy for me or not.

jasper is not confirm stable yet...

Hurm, dont be rude le..
Let he pick.

But it's great for you to do so much research before buying the console,
The only research I've done before I bought mine was the price and RROD.. LOL

I never knew the existence of Falcon/Jasper.
But I'd suggest you get Jasper,

If you want to reduce the noise, simple buy a cabinet or a box, and poke hole for cables..
sure it will reduce noise up to 80%

Did you try that before? Did it really work?

Although word on the street is that Microsoft is planning to release the successor to the Xbox 360 in 2010, the company is still apparently planning on updating the 360 design several more times in the next couple years. Just like the "Falcon" motherboard now on shelves updated the original 360 design with a 65nm CPU, the upcoming "Jasper" revision should take the GPU to 65nm as well -- blah blah...

The real action, however, appears to be "Valhalla," a supposed final rev of the 360 that integrates the GPU and CPU into a single "superchip." Details on that are more than sketchy, and we're definitely skeptical -- especially since we'd been hearing chatter about 45nm CPUs, but nothing about a unified architecture. We'll see when we see -- as long as all these boxes play CoD4, we'll be happy.

Lol... CPU + GPU into a single chip ! Now that's rad !

nah. not rude.
just pointing out the fact that too much thinking will make you lose time and make you left behind.

want no noise? no 3ROD? get a ps3 then.
simple rite?

+1

Certain revision of PS3 /w 65nm chip (Refering to 1st batch MY PS3, dunno now still got such problem or not) suffers 3RRoD like problem--Chip packaging detachment.

I am afraid his Xbox360 might suffocate and scream louder for help...

This post has been edited by flipacoin2k: Feb 18 2009, 10:03 AM

Hurm, Well I never try it
But it's logic wat..

I let my console in open space, reduce percentage of getting RROD..

Yes, I know, I was just kidding.

Ya, reduce percentage of getting the RROD which mostly caused by overheating.

You know super means super for Microsoft right? The main reason theyre doing it is not for reduced failures, but for the fact that less die size used the cheaper it is for microsoft to produce the 360. Cost cutting. Improvements on the failures are made in parallel with the rev increase to accommodate the changes.

Cost cutting doesnt really translate to less failures all the time though. Remember the PS2. The mid of life versions of the PS2 were the most reliable. The late cheaper to produce versions were more prone to failures.

LOL. and yet PS3 owners boldly claim that their machine is the best *cough!*

anybody having problems with their jasper?

hopefully not my bro's X360...

hope not..my xenon died after 3 months haha..Oh the trauma

3 months and then dead what a dissapointment

people only see what they want to see. everything else is clouded by bias.

Wii is the most reliable all round so far. Even if it runs superb hot externally compared to xbox, it won't crash for unknown reason.

Hahaha, I remember before an annoouncement for the 3RRoD problem, a lot of ppl actually said that the 3RRoD is a scam

what diff Jasper with Valhalla?

...heard the 'next-generation' will be in 2012.

But by the end of 2011, you will be hearing about next-gen already. That said, we have 2009, 2010 and part of 2011 to enjoy this generation of platforms, before the next itteration.

Thus, Valhalla being the 'last version of the 360', expect Valhalla late 2010 - 2011.

this situation very simple...just think game..don't think about console prob..BTW this my 2nd xbox n last week got da 3rod n oredi revive by tech2..now i can play with smile in 3 months..hhahaha
if u asyik think da prob..u will never buy xbox forever ma..
got malay peribahasa 'kalo takut dilambung ombak, jgn berumah ditepi pantai' klo takut kena 3rod, jgn beli xbox' - karam singh utk tv3..hahaha

This post has been edited by nofx: Mar 9 2009, 08:50 PM

lolz..


the story continues....



You : yahoo! my new 4th gen box....with SELL processors........

a few days later.....

You : shit got 4 ROD!

Microsoft : Introducing BUY processors........


haha...lol

isit this valhalla xbox is goin to use intel larrabee? if i not mistaken intel also having a new shit processor with cpu and gpu together...or is it that is sony ps4 goin to intel larrabee?

This post has been edited by intothefantasy: May 17 2009, 08:44 PM

If microsoft were to release their next console within the next few years it would kinda suck ... since its only since the jaspers were released were people more confident in not getting the rrod and fully enjoying the 360 not to mention production of 360 games would die out very fast .. this feels similar to what sega did when they released the sega saturn and abandoned it for the dreamcast that pissed off a lot of their customers ..I really feel sorry for the early buyers .. got ripped off with a very poor made console ..

Valhalla is confirmed to integrate the GPU and CPU into one superchip (rumored to be 45nm).

Unconfirmed reports indicate that the Valhalla is going to be slimmer and smaller than the current xbox consoles.

Jasper is the final iteration of the current design Xbox 360 console as we know it (Valhalla is going to be put into the Xbox Slim console).

Sources indicate that Microsoft is now looking into better cooling solutions from various Taiwanese companies to be included into the New Valhalla mobo.

The Jaspers are using TSMC/ATI 65nm GPU and CPU chips which are miles better than the in-house Microsoft Xenos 90nm GPU and CPU chips (found in the older Xenon and Zephyr consoles). The Falcons use 65nm CPU chips manufactured by TSMC but the GPU remains at 90nm. Please note that ATI's manufacturing process uses lead free solder (higher melting temperature) with a suspension layer in all their graphic cards so the Jaspers should be the same. The layer of suspension will prevent cracks and chips in the solder when the motherboard flexes due to heat.

Falcons uses glue in place of the suspension layer on their GPU chip and this helps (to a certain extent) in keeping the GPU in place when the MoBo flexes due to thermal radiation. Falcons are already pretty stable in terms of reliability and heat dissipation. Jaspers just increases the reliability, while keeping the extra heatsinks (found in Falcons and Opus MoBo) and getting a new 65nm GPU chip (in place of the old 90nm ones) to further decrease the core temperatures.

It doesn't matter what you buy now. Falcon Revision 3's are a pretty solid build already. Jaspers are brought in to keep the costs down so that Microsoft can further reduce the price of their consoles.

This post has been edited by friedricetheman: May 26 2009, 11:17 PM

next model appearing in 2020....is special doomsday weapon edition...

smart enough to shoot CDs at you while you are sleeping

>Xenos- this is the first version. The launch versions of xbox 360 core and pro came with this motherboard. This has no hdmi port. Failure rate around 33%.
>zephyr- this is also a first version. The launch models of xbox 360 elite came with this one. This included the hdmi port. But microsoft later put this motherboard with all xbox 360 models so all had hdmi port. Failure rate around 33%.
>falcon- this is the first revision that came around september 07. This reduced the cpu to 65nm from 90nm. The power supply was reduced to 175w. This revision also reduced the failure rate to around 16%.
>jasper- this is the second revision that came around september 08. This also reduced the gpu to 65nm from 90nm. So both the cpu and gpu were 65nm. The power supply was reduced to 150w. This reduced the failure rate to about 7%. Although as this had been out for only about a few months, so we can't tell about its actual failure rate.
>valhalla- this is supposed to be the third revision that is supposed to come around the end of this year. This one will combine the cpu and gpu into a single chip and reduce the size to 45nm. The power supply will be reduced to 100w. This one will be cooler and is supposed to reduce the failure rate even lower than jasper.

Jasper oso got such glue.....

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Added on October 3, 2009, 5:00 pmWell.....usualy problem report is rising sharply after 8 months.

So the Jasper should be as good as usual appliances already.

This post has been edited by navigator: Oct 3 2009, 05:00 PM

When you sleep, Valhalla will shoot cancerous tumors into your mouth