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 Need fimware...Anyone have it?, Seagate 3.AAK , ST3750840AS 750GB

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TSkinwai88
post Feb 14 2009, 04:19 PM, updated 17y ago

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If u have the firmware 3.AAK , ST3750840AS 750GB , please PM me coz I seldom visit hardware to check status one!!!


I think this is going too much off topic already...

I change the first post - Looking firmware...

to cut it short..less unwanted/ unecessary comments...

This post has been edited by kinwai88: Feb 17 2009, 12:06 AM
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post Feb 14 2009, 04:46 PM

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so you flash a 500gb and the storage become 750gb ?

hmm do you know the internal workings of a HD ?

there is no such things unless its actually a 750gb which is loaded with 500gb firmware


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post Feb 14 2009, 04:56 PM

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according to the hacker...
the 1.5TB, 1TB , 750 GB and 500GB HDD are using the same platter ...the baracuda 7200.11 is the same family...

It is the firmware that locked the capacity...

thus by unlocking the firmware write to the hdd can enable to flash to bigger capacity hdd...

I trust him that is why I flash my firmware..



I did it once and it works..
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post Feb 14 2009, 04:57 PM

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wow....that a maybe can be done but need requirement many tool and and diagnostic sector test
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post Feb 14 2009, 05:04 PM

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ooo wow! so we could get free storage? But did you actually tried to store 700gb of information and tested every bit of it? Cause it may just say 700gb but then overwrites the earlier info.
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post Feb 14 2009, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Fields @ Feb 14 2009, 06:04 PM)
ooo wow! so we could get free storage? But did you actually tried to store 700gb of information and tested every bit of it? Cause it may just say 700gb but then overwrites the earlier info.
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Yup...I done fill it to the max with contents...The max size is around 69X GB..

I have done the diagnostic test too to make sure it is ok...Look at picture..

I rather have more capacity rather than having a bigger 32MB Cache ....8MB cache is enough for me...coz I use the HDD to keep movies & Mp3 mostly..

The ST3500320AS, SD1A does'nt look so good... Look at the yellow dots...a few far out of focus(I circle them in red 2nd picture ok)...this is the root cause of the HDD being lock mechanism....I don't have faith that a firmware update to SD1A will keep the HDD alive as claim by Seagate...

This post has been edited by kinwai88: Feb 14 2009, 05:39 PM
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post Feb 15 2009, 12:10 AM

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if Seagate lock HDD plater capacity through firmware, than it is not a cost effective way to do business:

for 500GB HDD, the most cost effective way is using two 250GB platters (as of time of writing, HDD platter main-stream technology is 500GB per platter, which is put in WD 2TB or Seagate 1.5TB HDD).

I do a quick check for Seagate 500GB drive, at least two web site indicate 500GB is a 2 platter drive, which is using 250GB platter where 750GB HDD is a 4 platter drive:
http://www.pclaptop-review.com/2006/11/16/...d-drive-review/
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-i...a-hdd,2688.html

so, to get 500GB HDD increase to 750GB, it mean seagate is installing at least 3 platter into suppose 2 platter drive, then use firm ware to show as 500GB capacity.

isn't this is a funny way to do business, Seagate just need to announce to the world that they are able to sell 750GB HDD at WD/Hitachi/Samsung 500GB HDD price and beat them to death in term of sale?

There is at least RM127 different between Seagate 750GB and 500GB selling price if I based on PC Depot price list:
http://www.pcdepot.com.my/pricelist.aspx

why seagate have to hide their more superior technology or manufacturing capability compared to competitors?


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post Feb 15 2009, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(kepco @ Feb 15 2009, 01:10 AM)
if Seagate lock HDD plater capacity through firmware, than it is not a cost effective way to do business:

for 500GB HDD, the most cost effective way is using two 250GB platters (as of time of writing, HDD platter main-stream technology is 500GB per platter, which is put in WD 2TB or Seagate 1.5TB HDD).

I do a quick check for Seagate 500GB drive, at least two web site indicate 500GB is a 2 platter drive, which is using 250GB platter where 750GB HDD is a 4 platter drive:
http://www.pclaptop-review.com/2006/11/16/...d-drive-review/
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-i...a-hdd,2688.html

so, to get 500GB HDD increase to 750GB, it mean seagate is installing at least 3 platter into suppose 2 platter drive, then use firm ware to show as 500GB capacity.

isn't this is a funny way to do business, Seagate just need to announce to the world that they are able to sell 750GB HDD at WD/Hitachi/Samsung 500GB HDD price and beat them to death in term of sale?

There is at least RM127 different between Seagate 750GB and 500GB selling price if I based on PC Depot price list:
http://www.pcdepot.com.my/pricelist.aspx

why seagate have to hide their more superior technology or manufacturing capability compared to competitors?
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I duno why...U need to ask Seagate...

I guess is bcoz of platter technology ...Look at attachment k...

What u are reading there is older Seagate family baracuda 7200.10..which max at 750GB

The one I am talking now is baracuda 7200.11 family which max capacity at 1.5TB,

I open a thread here looking for the specific firmware ..not looking for comments...You can keep the comments to yourself....What are you trying to prove here??? tongue.gif

I have done the firmware flash and successfully increase one hdd the capacity to 750GB...

since the firmware no longer works, thus I need to get the specific one..

Thx

This post has been edited by kinwai88: Feb 15 2009, 01:43 AM
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post Feb 15 2009, 01:09 PM

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Only time can tell whether you are having the full capacity of your flashed HD.
(I wouldn't be doing that since my data is much valuable)

Anyway, we don't talk (discuss) about hacking or cracking here.
Read the small print of this forum.

You need to visit other hacking forum.

Good luck.

p/s do a virus/spyware scan on your system.

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post Feb 15 2009, 03:42 PM

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the system I use to do the flashing firmware already formated and I very quick install back the OS using ghost master HDD..

The HDD ..as soon as it firmware flash update successful I do a zero fill up and formated to NTFS...

THen I copy/ fill contents to the 750gb HDD ...to the max...around 69X GB...

I am looking for the firmware here...Not looking for crack or hack...Thus can post here...HEhehee

Then I move that HDD to my main rig...Working fine..


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post Feb 15 2009, 10:03 PM

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What have you done (flashing HD firmware) is hardware hacking.

It is not illegal, but it will void the HD warranty.
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post Feb 16 2009, 02:11 AM

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wtf...this is hacking..delete this post..last time my post was deleted because someone mention that i'm asking about hacking which is not true..my post didnt last a day but this post??zzz...
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QUOTE(kinwai88 @ Feb 15 2009, 01:21 AM)
I open a thread here looking for the specific firmware ..not looking for comments...You can keep the comments to yourself....What are you trying to prove here??? tongue.gif
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This is a discussion thread. Keep it civil OR I shall close the thread.

QUOTE(kinwai88 @ Feb 15 2009, 03:42 PM)
I am looking for the firmware here...Not looking for crack or hack...Thus can post here...HEhehee
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QUOTE(skyline1301 @ Feb 16 2009, 02:11 AM)
wtf...this is hacking..delete this post..last time my post was deleted because someone mention that i'm asking about hacking which is not true..my post didnt last a day but this post??zzz...
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As far as I'm concerned, this is a grey area. For the moment, I shall be allowing it .
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post Feb 16 2009, 02:40 PM

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TS just ask for firmware, not to ask HOW TO Hxck the hdd or something....But i still doubts why you doing this? since hdd ain't expensive nowadays. Somemore, if 1 day your hdd kaput (within 5 years warranty), you wont be able to get any replacement.
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post Feb 16 2009, 03:14 PM

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i'm not sure if the hack that you mention is actually a hack or was it more related to the firmware different, meaning the detected size of the hdd is control by the firmware.

anyhow, the firmware update you can get it from seagate by emailing them or call them.

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/FIRMWARE/Seagate/

by the way can i know which series if your hdd??

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I tend to agree with kepco as it's pretty stupid to sell a HDD which have a higher capacity at lower capacity price.

Thou i hv very little in depth or research on HDD, but isnt this happen before in the past regarding floppy disk, where you can store more than 1.44MB per disk. But in the end the result is not very stable, the storage capacity varies and the last part of the storage doesnt seem able to read sometime.

But i do hope things work the way you mention. Who wont want extra storage? Good luck & plz share with us when you found out more. Sorry cant help you on your quest.
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QUOTE(kepco @ Feb 15 2009, 12:10 AM)
if Seagate lock HDD plater capacity through firmware, than it is not a cost effective way to do business:

for 500GB HDD, the most cost effective way is using two 250GB platters (as of time of writing, HDD platter main-stream technology is 500GB per platter, which is put in WD 2TB or Seagate 1.5TB HDD).

I do a quick check for Seagate 500GB drive, at least two web site indicate 500GB is a 2 platter drive, which is using 250GB platter where 750GB HDD is a 4 platter drive:
http://www.pclaptop-review.com/2006/11/16/...d-drive-review/
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/seagate-i...a-hdd,2688.html

so, to get 500GB HDD increase to 750GB, it mean seagate is installing at least 3 platter into suppose 2 platter drive, then use firm ware to show as 500GB capacity.

isn't this is a funny way to do business, Seagate just need to announce to the world that they are able to sell 750GB HDD at WD/Hitachi/Samsung 500GB HDD price and beat them to death in term of sale?

There is at least RM127 different between Seagate 750GB and 500GB selling price if I based on PC Depot price list:
http://www.pcdepot.com.my/pricelist.aspx

why seagate have to hide their more superior technology or manufacturing capability compared to competitors?
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i guess you wont know until you open up the hdd and have alook on how many platter is it actually have on the hdd that the ts own tongue.gif, might be a manufacture error tongue.gif

but since ts have done it..i guess he is a lucky one then..
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post Feb 16 2009, 11:28 PM

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I think this is going too much off topic already...

I change the first post - Looking firmware...

to cut it short..less unwanted/ unecessary comments...

I think if u guys interested to open a discussion topic, pls. open a new thread...THank you..

This post has been edited by kinwai88: Feb 16 2009, 11:30 PM
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3.AAK firmware was a old firmware used by 7200.10 barracuda, check more on those info.

kinwai, i think the files that you used, was somekind of force downgrade firmware. which alot of people in other firmware considered it's a temporally fix, to wait for the newer stable firmware.


Added on February 17, 2009, 9:50 amand to clear up something, actually, the 500gb HDD was actually 2 platters despite you can raise to 750, because it was using 2 platters of 350 gb, or even more.

companys are always like to keep secrets and blablabla, only firmwares lock their space, i could agree on this.

you can notice the 7200.11 and 7200.12, which is 7200.12 using 500gb platters but still ending up same price with 7200.11.

i think the reason is because that unlocking all of the HDD space with 3.AAK is not a very good option since all heads that read the platter will move in bigger gaps on the platters. Heads will make some difference actually, certain heads has it's own max angle of bending/moving, once day, you might end up with a scratched platters due to head failure, because if was not design to handle it.

do bear in mind that 7200.11 and 7200.12's head might be different despite of it need bends more to cover the whole platter.

So, anything that using 3.AAK downgraders on 7200.11, must do at your own risk.

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so where is the firmware? any success?

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