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stevie8
post Jun 18 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Jun 18 2012, 12:27 AM)
hi stevie8,

what's the diff between cow grass and pearl grass? someone mentioned that pearl grass is maintenance free, probably means it nv grows?
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Cowgrass has many species. Mainly two leaves and 3 leaves. For home you use 3 leaves types shorter and fatter. Pearlgrass looks like cowgrass. When you look from far, you can mistaken pearlgrass for cowgrass.

Plus for Pearlgrass vs Cowgrass:
1. Pearlgrass is shorter, rounder and thicker leaves looks better than cowgrass.
2. Shorter means no need to trim

Plus for Cowgrass vs Pearlgrass:
1. Cowgrass is hardy, almost no dieases. Pearlgrass often has fungus infection.
2. Low maintenance, less water, nature will take care of cowgrass
3. Fast growing and spreading

Plus for Cowgrass over other types of grass:
1. Short, triming is only if the area is shaded, no sun the grass grows taller otherwise little triming.
2. May outgrow and compete with wild grass for space. Less picking of wild grass.
3. Less maintenance like watering and fertiliser.
4. Hardy, easy care and less infection even with damp or moist ground.

Con for Cowgrass:
1. Not as pretty as jap or phillipines grass or the likes of carpet grass or pearlgrass

Hope this helps.

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post Jun 20 2012, 09:07 PM

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The grass grow taller at edges and at areas receive less sunlight. It is a kind of carpet grass as discussed here like philippines, Japan, Taiwan grass, etc.

That is the best you can get as the photo shows it receives partial sunlight. Unless full sunlight you will not get healty grown grass, short and compact. Also, there are patches, mean waterlog the grass cannot grow well there.

Grass need loose soil not hard or waterlog soil and plenty of water but water have to be drained by off by the soil itself. That is why ppl add a layer of sand. But too much sand the grass grow taller.

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post Jun 21 2012, 02:52 PM

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You cant tell which type even on at actual site what's more this is photo.

If you dont pluck the weeds it will outgrow the grass. You have to do it weekly. the more often you pluck the less and easy it will be for you to pluck and fight it. If you leave it for months, habis, finished, gameover! Once the young weed seeds you will lose out or you have already lost the battle.

To make sure it grows on those empty patches, never step on these areas and water it once a day. Step on areas that have grass they will not die on you. People worry the grass will die so they step on the empty patches. Wrong!
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post Jun 21 2012, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(V3i HoN6 @ Jun 21 2012, 05:11 PM)
I'm constantly spending 15-30 minutes every 2-3 days to pluck the weeds now.
But they are very small i have to look for it carefully.

I just dont know how much longer I can do it untill i give up.
Will they really getting less and less if I pluck them more everyday until I can schedule to weekly or two weeks once?
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Just make sure it does not flower and produce seeds. And for those crawling type of grass make very sure the root are pulled. There are thousand of seeds and new ones being flown carry by wind to your garden and bird shit that contains seeds. But most importantly are those already in the ground.

As long as your carpet grass grow healthy and compact it leave no room for other plants. There will be some and the only way is to pluck them before they flower and seed. When you see those with seeds do not leave them on the ground. Disposed them in plastic bag. You may not need to pluck these tiny ones if you choose to till next few days. Go for the big ones first. But make sure you come back in few days time's to pick them. If you cannot do the plucking carpet grass is not for you. Go for cowgrass. Even pearl grass a smaller short spieces of cowgrass you still need to pluck them. Cowgrass on the other hand can out grow others or be very competitive.
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post Jun 24 2012, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(joyride997 @ Jun 24 2012, 09:59 AM)
Hi all, I have uneven ground. My philipine grass already grown on it for 1 year plus.
Now I ordered half load of sands and want to even it.

What should it do? for those who did it before, please share experience.

Seems very difficult to pin point exactly where the holes as it covered by grass.
My neighbor said simply throw the sands scattered around And Spray with a lot of water. Is this correct way?
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As I mentioned before, to pin point exactly where the holes are is to wait for heavy, really heavy rain and you can see areas that are flooded and you have to work under the rain just make sure there is no thunderstorm as it is dangerous. Fill up these low areas with the sands from one hole to another.

Simply scattered the sands wont work as you already have grass and the sand will not shift and move by gravity due to the grass leave and roots. If you think what your neighbor said can work you can try it out by simple do it on one small area to confirm my doubts. At the end of the day area you added sand will be higher, the areas you spray with water will not move unless you water shoot them and it will be empty by the shooting water pressure. The only way to shift and move added sands wtih grown grass is to flood it and disturb the sands with hands a small areas by areas.
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post Dec 16 2012, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(joyride997 @ Dec 2 2012, 11:31 AM)
hi all,

after cutting grass, i put it in the standard black garbage bag. However, the normal garbage collector doesn't pick it up, they said they don't do this.

do we have to dispose ourselves? or there is another party that I need to call?
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Never heard of that.

There are 2 types of garbages. 1. kitchen waste garbage where the truck comes 3 times a week to pick up from your garbage bin. 2. Garden garbage. Grass is garden garbage and is usually collected by another contractor, not the kitchen waste contractor/worker you usually see. This contractor also take care of tress and sweep the street.

You can leave the grass in the bag on the road side. Some day some one will collect it, like once a week. It is ok it does not smell.

If nothing happen, make a complaint to the local government or local council. where are you staying? If PJ MPPJ, Ampang MPAJ, KL Bandaraya KL....
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post Dec 21 2012, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(joyride997 @ Dec 17 2012, 06:00 PM)
thanks for all the replies. local council will pick garden waste regularly but it just doesn't happen in my area. I'm going to complain.
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They have websites that you can make complaints and they will reply you with official letter posted to your home address. Google MPSJ www.mpsj.gov.my , for example and look for "aduan" and write your complaints.
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post Mar 7 2013, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(enson1985 @ Mar 5 2013, 09:43 PM)
May I know wat type of grass it tis? Tq!
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Fake. Glass cant grow as perfectly as this under little or no sunlight.
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post Mar 11 2013, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Mar 11 2013, 12:41 PM)
I planted Philippine carpet grass, may I know what kind of fertilizer to use? some part grew nicely some part not so.. I'm not sure if Its too much water or too little water?

Any one can tell what type of fertilizer and how often to put and how much?
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Water every evening after the sun goes down. Or early morning or both, that's all you need to do.

Do you have other plants around? Remove them.

Grass need a lot of sunlight to grow well too.

Patches that are not growing, try loosen the soil. Do not step on the empty patches. step on the grass if you must.
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post Mar 18 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Mar 11 2013, 01:02 PM)
I just put in some really big red palms to block some sun into my dining hall and to cool the place...but that area is growing fine i think because of the sun..the patch that is not growing is at the terrace by the fence..there is some water retention over there..Should I loosen the soil or dig the whole patch and re-level the ground?

These days i only water in the evening around 730pm, i did not water in the morning...I need to water twice? What is the best time to water the grass in the morning? 7am ok? I just hose my grass...am I drowning my grass? Sorry, too many things that I dont know
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It is never easy to maintain grass.

For water retention, just level the ground. Water once a day in the morning is sufficient and no need to water when it is raining season.

When there are patches it could be due to un-uniform layer of top soil aslo. or the layer of good soil is thin at the affected areas. To ready have a nice growing grass is to dig and remove the top soil and top up with 1 foot or 1/2 foot of new soil. If you dont do that and if the ground is not level and you place the new grass on top of it, the patch of grass on the high side will lose its original soil to lower ground areas over months. As the high areas losses the soil the grass dies.
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post Mar 21 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(yuan415 @ Mar 20 2013, 04:24 PM)
which type of grass more suitable for pets? i have dogs.
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None! Hahaha...even fake will be dug up. Dogs just want to bury bones cool2.gif
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post Nov 16 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(ken.lee1 @ Nov 14 2013, 05:48 PM)
hi sifus

i have this garden

green = plan for grass either japan / pearl grass
yellow = plan for sunflowers
pink = misc small colorful flowers

my question should i do divider (concrete) to separate the 3 boxes? my concern is lateron i hv to replace the plants in yellow / pink box, my grass will be affected as i need to dig and replace very often.

secondly if i dont do divider, will it grow lalang? as when plants in yellow and pink box blossom, birds will come and dropping etc will bring lalang, unwanted weeds, etc
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You can make divider and hide away from sight and remove whenever necessary in future.

Using tiles, wall tile is thinner and easier to cut. Use a glass cutter cut 3 to 4 inches wide (as depth) many pieces and plant into the line where you want to divide. With the tiles 3-4 inches underground, the grass root will not able to spread underground to the other side. The tile is buried underground and just a little (few mm) of its top expose above ground. As the grass grow you can pull up a bit so that the top grass will not cross to the other side too.
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post Nov 16 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(aquaria87 @ Nov 14 2013, 04:14 PM)
between pearl grass and cow grass..which one easy to menten? roughlt how much per sq ft? i hv area more than 1000 sq ft to plant the grass..
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Cow grass cheap and grow faster. You can bring a cow and trim too.
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post Nov 16 2013, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Nov 16 2013, 11:20 PM)
Lol. I like this part.
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Yes, no joke. The cow will not pull the grass out. The cow actually trim with teeth, not killing the grass. And cow like this type of grass and same time the cow will fertilize the grass too.
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post Nov 17 2013, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(klangboy83 @ Nov 17 2013, 12:19 AM)
what's the formula to estimate ton size of sand/soil to order? for example, to add 1 inch of sand/soil to 500 sqft of land, how many ton of sand/soil do i need to order?

I was advised this method to plant my own japanese grass (let them grow over 1 year's time):
1. Dig away 6 inches of developer soil
2. Cover with 4 inches of sand (to provide level ground and good water retention capability)
3. Cover with 2 inches of topsoil
4. Plant some japanese grass spread across the land, let them grow over next 1 year
5. Pull out weeds every 2 days

Will above plan work? any improvement needed? anyone can estimate cost of the above work for 500 sqft land?
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What kind of topsoil you are talking about?
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post Nov 17 2013, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(klangboy83 @ Nov 17 2013, 05:16 AM)
Don't know.... the good quality one from rubber estate? or red soil? what's suitable for my case to grow japanese grass over 1 year?
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Jap grass is the most beautiful of all. But will it get a lot of sun? If not it will not grow well. Growing well means grow very compact or dense and short. If little sun then it will grow loosely and long and dying.

The correct way of growing grass is a good quality top soil and below sand and then clay. Top soil is mixed of clay, sand and humus or old soil from top layer of soil anywhere you dig from jungle, field. But there are problem with such top soil arrangement at the top especially for growing the type of beautiful grass we want, basically the grass cannot compete with other wild plant and weed. what's more you intend to plant the slowest growing grass, the Jap grass!

The "top soil" is suspicious as it contains hell of of wild seeds. Moreover it is expensive. So, the economical way and effective way of planting grass is you should not have top soil at all. That is only clay (yellow, orangie or red mud, you can find abundance here in our country and most are free of seeds) at the bottom and sand on top. Such layering ensure there are insufficient sunlight to stimulate the seed from germinate. One forumer suggest to have a layer of newspaper is a good idea. Eventually the top soil will have on its own from trimmed grass. Of course Jap grass need no trimming.

If your area is small you can manage pulling every day, otherwise get a big pot or wok and steam and cook the top soil at 100 degree C and sure you kill all the wild seeds. laugh.gif
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post Nov 17 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(miqie @ Nov 17 2013, 10:05 PM)
What is the difinition a lot of sun? 6 hrs a day?
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hmm... lot of sun means no shade, no tree, no building but that is full sun. Lot of sun means more than half day during day time. So can assume minimum half day sun. 6 hrs? you are right.
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Nov 18 2013, 12:01 AM)
Lol. Yes, i know what you mean. But you really bring a cow into your house for doing this?

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Where to find cow la doh.gif Just kidding tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2013, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(windwong @ Dec 10 2013, 08:35 PM)
ok guys, here come the real issue. My lawn of 600sqft with japanese grass has been invaded by weeds!!!!!!!!!!

I once overheard/read that we can use herbicide to kill round lead weeds and that save my work on pulling them out.

is that true?

I am here in sarawak and are trying to hire holidaying student to pull out weeds for me but damm, nowadays children dont bother to earn this kind of money (rm100)

or, anyone has any cow to borrow?
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I read that also. Some one posted it here. Is there is such thing? I doubt. If there is such herbicide kills weeds effectively and does not kill plants/grass, it should has been so popular and most of us would have known and the company or representative would have promoted it and make sales here.
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post Dec 10 2013, 10:50 PM

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Japanese grass grows short and compact you should not have lot of weeds since it is difficult for weeds to compete with a well grown compact jap grass.

The jap grass name is zoysia japonica. This type of grass can stand salt. You can mix salt with water and spray on your lawn and that will inhibit weeds grow.

When there are too many weeds you can't them pull all in a week. When you cant pull all in a week new ones germinate everyday and you cannot be pulling everyday. The better way is to trim the already short jap grass a bit shorter (but not too short weaken the grass) so as to trim away the weed's top. Weed when it grows taller than grass only then can thrive and compete against yr jap grass. By trimming you inhibit the competitiveness of the weeds. Also you are in a way trimming away the weeds heads with seeds. The un-matured seed will not germinate.

This is how you help your jap grass win over weeds. There is no easy way by just herbicide killing all type of weeds not grass. Hope this help.

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