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post Feb 11 2009, 02:46 PM, updated 17y ago

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Admit it, all of us love to see a new youngster in the footballing scene making waves across the pitch. I hope this thread will be an avenue for us to discuss, uncover and keep track of all the lesser-known wonderkids of football in this era.

To be fair, wonderkids should only be 21 years old and below. If possible, please attach some articles or even videos regarding the subject. I hope we'll have a good one! I shall start off with a few:

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QUOTE(blinky @ Feb 11 2009, 02:46 PM)

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nicollas millan??? i know that dude from fm...lol...

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Ah, good topic. I love discussing about youngsters who are inspired to do big in the future.

There are so many young talents being mentioned for the past year. But for me personally, I have 5 favourites.

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Some information of potential youngsters from Calcio Italia

Davide Lanzafame
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Mario Balotelli
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Cristian Zapata
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QUOTE(gwong @ Feb 11 2009, 04:18 PM)
Cristián Zapata full name Cristián Eduardo Zapata Valencia (born 30 September 1986) is a Colombian football (soccer) player.
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Oh..I guess he was before? Hahaha..

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There's been alot of talk about this kid. Both Madrid and Barca are following him closely.
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QUOTE(gwong @ Feb 11 2009, 04:18 PM)
Some information of potential youngsters from Calcio Italia

Davide Lanzafame
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Mario Balotelli
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Cristian Zapata
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There's been alot of talk about this kid. Both Madrid and Barca are following him closely.
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Oh yeah, apparently Ronaldinho in the making, from Gremio right?


Here is one of my favourites:

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Another one.

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QUOTE(Shin1022 @ Feb 11 2009, 05:12 PM)
sergio aguerro



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jack wilshere. well, he is not exactly that fantastic yet, but he's only just turned 17 last month.


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post Feb 11 2009, 11:35 PM

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hehe, i think after owen, gerrard, terry, lampard, rooney, england don't have wonder kid anymore ...

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QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 11 2009, 11:35 PM)
hehe, i think after owen, gerrard, terry, lampard, rooney, england don't have wonder kid anymore ...
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anyone heard of seal dribbler Kerlon? brows.gif
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QUOTE(booooster @ Feb 11 2009, 11:42 PM)
anyone heard of seal dribbler Kerlon?  brows.gif
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Of course, he's in Inter Milan now smile.gif
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QUOTE(blinky @ Feb 11 2009, 11:50 PM)
Of course, he's in Inter Milan now smile.gif
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wrong, he's with Chievo now, n he had only made 1 appearance so far. poor boy.
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Sebastian Giovinco and Claudio Marchisio...both in Juventus
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Feb 11 2009, 11:56 PM)
wrong, he's with Chievo now, n he had only made 1 appearance so far. poor boy.
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He's on loan at Chievo, but contracted to Inter Milan.
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Kerlon signed for Chievo Verona on September 1, 2008 and made his debut on October 29 against S.S. Lazio as a substitute, which remains his only appearance for the club to date, chiefly due to injury. [4] Kerlon is on loan from Internazionale. [5]
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QUOTE(blinky @ Feb 12 2009, 01:26 AM)
He's on loan at Chievo, but contracted to Inter Milan.
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lol crap.com, eh ?

as far as i know, Kerlon WAS supposed to sign for Inter quite some times ago, but the deal fell thru n Chievo owned him officially n legally now.

i would love to see some official news / statement if i'm wrong, until then, i'm sure he didnt signed for Inter.

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QUOTE(blinky @ Feb 11 2009, 05:03 PM)
You forgot Davide Santon smile.gif


Hmmm........Inter Developed youngsters!? May be but he is not as hig profile as Mario. Haha...

Okay let me name another one then...

Cristian Pasquato
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Sebastian Giovinco and Claudio Marchisio...both in Juventus
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Hehehe...My avatar says it all.... Seba is 22 and Claudio is 23 this year and they are part of Juve's squad now.

I guess TS wanted some youth team players below 21 that might one day be a big time player. Pls accept my apologies for quoting Zapata. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Feb 12 2009, 09:44 AM)
lol crap.com, eh ?

as far as i know, Kerlon WAS supposed to sign for Inter quite some times ago, but the deal fell thru n Chievo owned him officially n legally now.

i would love to see some official news / statement if i'm wrong, until then, i'm sure he didnt signed for Inter.
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My apologies then. That was what I got from Wikipedia and from Football Manager as well.

Have you guys heard of Franco Zuculini? Apparently he is an up and coming defensive midfielder from Racing Club, Argentina. Touted as the next Mascherano.

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there are many wonderkid n future star....check it out...

henri saivet

mamadou sakho

sherman cardenas



those player is a legend in fm...lol..
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Feb 12 2009, 11:16 AM)
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gabriel torje? (romanian wonderboy)

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English next big thing

Fabian Delph
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Would like to see videos of the players that have been mentioned. So that people will know why he is called 'wonderkid'. And based on what I can see in this thread, there are so many wonderkids around. Are there really many of them?
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Out of the many wonderkids to have arisen from across the continents, how many actually make it and become a truly world class player? America was raving over Freddy Adu, so much so that United even called him in for a trial. Sad to say, he didn't impress Ferguson one bit, and was not signed. I don't know whats happened to him now, but he isn't plying his trade in one of the big leagues.
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 12 2009, 05:12 PM)
Out of the many wonderkids to have arisen from across the continents, how many actually make it and become a truly world class player? America was raving over Freddy Adu, so much so that United even called him in for a trial. Sad to say, he didn't impress Ferguson one bit, and was not signed. I don't know whats happened to him now, but he isn't plying his trade in one of the big leagues.
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Er, he's playing European football with Benfica?
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QUOTE(blinky @ Feb 12 2009, 05:26 PM)
Er, he's playing European football with Benfica?
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The Portuguese league is hardly the best place to nurture one's talent, especially when he's already going on 20. If he really is all that, he'd be playing consistent football in the Liga, Serie A or EPL with a top side, like Messi and Aguero. He's now with Monaco though, but isn't playing regular football. A quick check on Wiki shows that he only managed 11 appearances last season with Benfica.
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 12 2009, 05:37 PM)
The Portuguese league is hardly the best place to nurture one's talent, especially when he's already going on 20. If he really is all that, he'd be playing consistent football in the Liga, Serie A or EPL with a top side, like Messi and Aguero. He's now with Monaco though, but isn't playing regular football. A quick check on Wiki shows that he only managed 11 appearances last season with Benfica.
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I agree with the rest of your points, but Portugese league is hardly the best place to nurture talents?

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Take a read at that article. Cristiano Ronaldo, Miguel Veloso, Joao Moutinho, Nani, Angel Di Maria etc.?

Contrary to your opinions, I think leagues like Portugese, German, Dutch or even the Argentinian are the best to breed youngsters. Top flight leagues like Serie A, La Liga and Premier League are places for these youngsters to go AFTER they've turned into world-class players.

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i think in order to call someone wonder kid, they should have become regular in their repective club first team already ...

like owen and gerrard 10 years ago ...


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he quite adult now ... still wonder kid ?

that day when belasah 1-5, why he not inside the team ?

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 12 2009, 05:12 PM)
Out of the many wonderkids to have arisen from across the continents, how many actually make it and become a truly world class player? America was raving over Freddy Adu, so much so that United even called him in for a trial. Sad to say, he didn't impress Ferguson one bit, and was not signed. I don't know whats happened to him now, but he isn't plying his trade in one of the big leagues.
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there is another one wonderkid from USA..jozy altidore....now in villareal but was loaned to other club...

jozy altidore
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QUOTE(blinky @ Feb 12 2009, 05:55 PM)
I agree with the rest of your points, but Portugese league is hardly the best place to nurture talents?

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Take a read at that article. Cristiano Ronaldo, Miguel Veloso, Joao Moutinho, Nani, Angel Di Maria etc.?

Contrary to your opinions, I think leagues like Portugese, German, Dutch or even the Argentinian are the best to breed youngsters. Top flight leagues like Serie A, La Liga and Premier League are places for these youngsters to go AFTER they've turned into world-class players.
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I guess you and I have very different criterias of which form a wonderkid. To me, a wonderkid is someone who's already a regular with a top side, and the best in his position at his young and tender age for both his club and country. Messi is a wonderkid. So were Pele, Giggs and Maradona. All of them broke into their respective teams before 20, and were among the best in the world. Thats what separates a wonderkid to a young talent imo. Take Anderson and Lucas for example. Both of them have not established themselves as first choice for club and country, hence they do not qualify as wonderkids in my book. Maybe there's a difference in how others define a wonderkid.

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 13 2009, 10:02 AM)
I guess you and I have very different criterias of which form a wonderkid. To me, a wonderkid is someone who's already a regular with a top side, and the best in his position at his young and tender age for both his club and country. Messi is a wonderkid. So were Pele, Giggs and Maradona. All of them broke into their respective teams before 20, and were among the best in the world. Thats what separates a wonderkid to a young talent imo. Take Anderson and Lucas for example. Both of them have not established themselves as first choice for club and country, hence they do not qualify as wonderkids in my book. Maybe there's a difference in how others define a wonderkid.
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A wonderkid to me is a player with the right amount of coaching and playtime under him, has the potential to be a world-class player smile.gif

I don't think I regard Messi as a wonderkid, because he's already playing at the highest level.

Maybe we should listen to what the others have to say about their definition of a wonderkid smile.gif
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Yeah true. Even the definition of a world class player is a shoddy one. How do you rate world class? Top 5 in his position? A World Cup winner? A Player of the Year? Its a grey line in how ppl recognise certain players
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 12 2009, 05:12 PM)
Out of the many wonderkids to have arisen from across the continents, how many actually make it and become a truly world class player? America was raving over Freddy Adu, so much so that United even called him in for a trial. Sad to say, he didn't impress Ferguson one bit, and was not signed. I don't know whats happened to him now, but he isn't plying his trade in one of the big leagues.
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Yes, you are right Hevrn. And because of that, we have to know how can a young player be called 'wonderkid', and we should differ him with other players with huge potential. Because being 'wonderkid' is not merely having huge potential. He has to show the right character and determination. Freddy Adu is a good example. IMO, he never was a wonderkid. He is a young player with a huge potential, but he had a lot lot more to learn. Same goes to Fernando Cavenaghi. Highly hyped in Argentina for his goal scoring record, now he is only good enough for Ligue 1. My opinion, the examples of:
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I wouldn't consider Bojan in that list just yet. So far he hasn't really translated his previous form in the youth sides to the senior side. Busquets however has been a revelation for Barca this season.
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How about Theo Walcott?A regular 1st team for Arsenal.He's just 20 this year.
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I think people misuse the term "wonderkid" because of the Football Manager game's definition of wonderkid.

I suppose wonderkids in the real world should be limited to those really, really outstanding ones, like Leo Messi and I can't believe nobody has mentioned Cesc Fabregas!
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surprise nobody mention pato in this thread....ask SerieA fan who is pato and ull got your answer....for me this 19 year old Brazilian international is the best youngster in SerieA....scoring almost everygame....

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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Feb 13 2009, 03:45 PM)
I think people misuse the term "wonderkid" because of the Football Manager game's definition of wonderkid.

I suppose wonderkids in the real world should be limited to those really, really outstanding ones, like Leo Messi and I can't believe nobody has mentioned Cesc Fabregas!
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i guess nobody sees cesc as a kid anymore biggrin.gif captain kid..hehe.. i think pato deserves a mention. he's only 19 and he is doing well in ac milan.
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QUOTE(verx @ Feb 13 2009, 03:03 PM)
I wouldn't consider Bojan in that list just yet. So far he hasn't really translated his previous form in the youth sides to the senior side. Busquets however has been a revelation for Barca this season.
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Bojan did really well in his first season, when the likes of Eto'o, Henry, and Messi all had some problems with injuries. My video of him says how he performed last season. This season, Pep decided to protect him. That's why we couldn't see much of him this season.

QUOTE(Zan81 @ Feb 13 2009, 03:45 PM)
I think people misuse the term "wonderkid" because of the Football Manager game's definition of wonderkid.

I suppose wonderkids in the real world should be limited to those really, really outstanding ones, like Leo Messi and I can't believe nobody has mentioned Cesc Fabregas!
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Maybe people didn't state Messi and Cesc because of their age, 21 years and 8-9 months. TS want men under 21 years old brows.gif brows.gif Or maybe people just bored to mention their name laugh.gif laugh.gif

I must say Pato is the most promising among the players mentioned here, although he started off slowly in his Milan career.
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Feb 13 2009, 03:45 PM)
I think people misuse the term "wonderkid" because of the Football Manager game's definition of wonderkid.

I suppose wonderkids in the real world should be limited to those really, really outstanding ones, like Leo Messi and I can't believe nobody has mentioned Cesc Fabregas!
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Well Cesc Fabregas is no longer considered a kid because he already have more than 200 apperances for the club.So that's like a 24-25 year old's experience.Plus he's already a captain at 21.

That is why his name not being mention.In Arsenal 21 is like one of the oldest squad member. biggrin.gif

Nasri(21)---Denilson(20)---Fabregas(21)---Walcott(19)

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john fleck from rangers looks promising. was link to manutd a while ago
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QUOTE(qsp1985 @ Feb 14 2009, 02:50 AM)
john fleck from rangers looks promising. was link to manutd a while ago
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He was dubbed "Scotland's Wayne Rooney".
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Feb 14 2009, 12:21 AM)
Bojan did really well in his first season, when the likes of Eto'o, Henry, and Messi all had some problems with injuries. My video of him says how he performed last season. This season, Pep decided to protect him. That's why we couldn't see much of him this season.
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I disagree. He was no Messi who at 18 was already running rings round defenders at La Liga level. He did reasonably well as a squad player. But if u consider that worthy to be called a wonderkid then there would be so many of them u can put in that list.
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QUOTE(verx @ Feb 14 2009, 11:55 AM)
I disagree. He was no Messi who at 18 was already running rings round defenders at La Liga level. He did reasonably well as a squad player. But if u consider that worthy to be called a wonderkid then there would be so many of them u can put in that list.
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If you expect everyone to be like Messi at 18, i wonder how many would be dubbed as wonderkid?
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Wonderkid - A young player with a hugh potential to be discovered. With the right amount of coaching, he could turn into WORLD CLASS PLAYERS.

Okay, IMO there is a thin line between Wonderkid and World Class Player here. For me, Messi is a wonderkid who turned into a World Class Player. Going around defenders at young age and cemented his place on starting 11.

Same can be said of C. Ronaldo, C. Fabregas and the list goes on.

So, again, IMO wonderkid doesn't have to be the NEXT world class player but someone with huge amount of talent. Raw and needs to be polished. (Wenger comes in mind, he is great at it.)

IMO, wonderkid that doesn't turn up to be an another world class players are Anderson, Lucas, Babel. Well, at least not yet.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Feb 14 2009, 12:28 PM)
Wonderkid - A young player with a hugh potential to be discovered. With the right amount of coaching, he could turn into WORLD CLASS PLAYERS.

Okay, IMO there is a thin line between Wonderkid and World Class Player here. For me, Messi is a wonderkid who turned into a World Class Player. Going around defenders at young age and cemented his place on starting 11.

Same can be said of C. Ronaldo, C. Fabregas and the list goes on.

So, again, IMO wonderkid doesn't have to be the NEXT world class player but someone with huge amount of talent. Raw and needs to be polished. (Wenger comes in mind, he is great at it.)

IMO, wonderkid that doesn't turn up to be an another world class players are Anderson, Lucas, Babel. Well, at least not yet.
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If you expect everyone to be like Messi at 18, i wonder how many would be dubbed as wonderkid?
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That is my point. Why should there be so many wonderkids? A wonderkid should be below 21 but is able to play at the highest level and be an unquestionable starter as well. Otherwise the "wonder" would be meaningless.


Added on February 14, 2009, 12:41 pmOk let me clarify myself. I'm not expecting kids to play at Messi's current level. That would be unrealistic. I'm just saying that for me a wonderkid has to be so good that it would be impossible to leave him out regardless of how young he is.

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In a way, verx is kind of right as well.

The term 'wonderkid' is very subjective.



I guess, those who never managed to cement their place on starting 11 regularly, can be said as 'Potentials' only?

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QUOTE(verx @ Feb 14 2009, 12:36 PM)
That is my point. Why should there be so many wonderkids? A wonderkid should be below 21 but is able to play at the highest level and be an unquestionable starter as well. Otherwise the "wonder" would be meaningless.


Added on February 14, 2009, 12:41 pmOk let me clarify myself. I'm not expecting kids to play at Messi's current level. That would be unrealistic. I'm just saying that for me a wonderkid has to be so good that it would be impossible to leave him out regardless of how young he is.
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A wonderkid to me is a player with the right amount of coaching and playtime under him, has the potential to be a world-class player smile.gif

I don't think I regard Messi as a wonderkid, because he's already playing at the highest level.

Maybe we should listen to what the others have to say about their definition of a wonderkid smile.gif
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my definition of wonder kid is they already the manager's first choice at the age of 18-19 ... like owen, gerrard and rooney ...


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ts.. make a list in the first post..
so that ppl wont mention the same player twice..
or just helping them to know the player more..
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I'm with verx on this. A wonderkid should be someone really special, not just a young 'un with loads of potential but naught to show for on the pitch when compared to the more accomplished players. If every kid with potential would be dubbed as wonderkids, there'd be at least a thousand possible names to throw into the hat. To me, having talent is not enuff. Thats why I mentioned names like Pele, Maradona, Giggs and Messi, who at their young age were already right up there with the best.
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 14 2009, 11:24 PM)
I'm with verx on this. A wonderkid should be someone really special, not just a young 'un with loads of potential but naught to show for on the pitch when compared to the more accomplished players. If every kid with potential would be dubbed as wonderkids, there'd be at least a thousand possible names to throw into the hat. To me, having talent is not enuff. Thats why I mentioned names like Pele, Maradona, Giggs and Messi, who at their young age were already right up there with the best.
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Seriously who will take Messi as a 'kid'?
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messi no more the wonder kid, he already one the world best forward nowadays ... and this season he could be on his way to win the FIFA world player of the year ...
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Here is my criteria for a "wonderkid":
- Below 21 years old, which means Messi, Higuain, Benzema, Nasri, Hamsik, and Fellaini just barely missed the cut. They have passed other criteria but are a year above 20.
- Already a regular for club, which means no matter how much the potentials of Ramsey, Bojan, Kroos, Vela and Balotelli are being hyped, they don't qualify until they start getting more games at the senior level.
- and even if they do play regularly, questions must be asked whether they are really indispensable to the club. Santon, Anderson, Richards and Denilson might be regulars but they are quite easily replaceable.
- and playing for a club that competes for honours (or is at least - in the case of Aguero - wanted by top clubs), where the expectation to perform is high. Therefore, the likes of Buonanotte, Aissati, Asenjo, Bale and Adu still have plenty to prove.
- A regular for country, or, in the case of Pato, on the sidelines of the national team if the country has among the biggest reputation and competition for places are tight.

Therefore, the true "wonderkids" in my opinion are Aguero, Pato, Walcott, Busquets and Mata. The latter two are debatable but the first three are spot on.

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I have a friend call Muhammedo from Africa now at Malaysia. He is very talented. Only 18 years old. When he starts dribbling no one stops him. He is going to Melburne Victory for a trial a few weeks later.

We are team mates as we both plays for KLYS. We won many tournaments with him.
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so you are saying your friend is wonderkid as well ? biggrin.gif
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hehe, i think after owen, gerrard, terry, lampard, rooney, england don't have wonder kid anymore ...
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well, he's not in the same league as aguero, pato or walcott (none of the criteria fits him), but as a 7 years old boy with that brilliant skill, i honour him as a wonderkid!! argue as u wish. heheheh.


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well, he's not in the same league as aguero, pato or walcott (none of the criteria fits him), but as a 7 years old boy with that brilliant skill, i honour him as a wonderkid!! argue as u wish. heheheh.

Really great skill. shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif It won't be long before big clubs sign him

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QUOTE(yikerk @ Feb 20 2009, 02:10 AM)
well, he's not in the same league as aguero, pato or walcott (none of the criteria fits him), but as a 7 years old boy with that brilliant skill, i honour him as a wonderkid!! argue as u wish. heheheh.

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I think most of the footballers listed down is highly rated, not wonderkid.
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ok since when gerrard lampard and terry is wonderkid ?
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QUOTE(yikerk @ Feb 20 2009, 02:10 AM)
well, he's not in the same league as aguero, pato or walcott (none of the criteria fits him), but as a 7 years old boy with that brilliant skill, i honour him as a wonderkid!! argue as u wish. heheheh.



he could be a one man team
belive me,with that such dribble skil+some top european club to polish his skil,he sure to be the next top footballer

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8 month baby who can read is a wonderkid....
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this about wonderkids...

how about we place them in the 11st eleven..

4-4-2 Winger....
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name: wan kuzain wan kamal
dob: sept 14 1998
born: usa, but of malaysian blood.

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TBH, we can find many talented kids like Wan Kuzain in Malaysia. They have remarkable skills with the ball. Its just that their adults can't help them to improve further. Those adults I refer to are their parents or the top managers in of FAM. doh.gif

Or they themselves can't see their future as a football player.

But still, Wan Kuzain is a talented youngster. His parents are both Malaysian?
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QUOTE(matyrze @ Apr 24 2009, 11:13 PM)
TBH, we can find many talented kids like Wan Kuzain in Malaysia. They have remarkable skills with the ball. Its just that their adults can't help them to improve further. Those adults I refer to are their parents or the top managers in of FAM. doh.gif

Or they themselves can't see their future as a football player.

But still, Wan Kuzain is a talented youngster. His parents are both Malaysian?
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name: wan kuzain wan kamal
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Woah. Cool. Left-footed some more. Very rare.

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sorry dont really know bout their family.. happen to found him in youtube only...
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Apr 24 2009, 11:34 PM)
Plus Nasi Lemak, Roti Canai, Nasi Goreng, ciggies etc. also not really helping.


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Woah. Cool. Left-footed some more. Very rare.
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sorry dont really know bout their family.. happen to found him in youtube only...
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If anything it proves just how much difference it can make to take the kid out of Malaysia. It helps of course that he wasn't born here or he'd be mentally corrupted. The saying goes, "you can take the boy out of the kampung, but you can't take the kampung out of the boy" applies to Malaysian players. With this guy however, he wasn't born in the kampung which makes all the difference in the world. Good luck to him. Hope he doesn't even come back to play here.
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Yeah hopefully he manage to play in EPL and change the perspective of the world towards Malaysian football.
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Yeah hopefully he manage to play in EPL and change the perspective of the world towards Malaysian football.
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I think that only we can change the perspective of others towards our football because in reality we do suck. I was out with a Norwegian lady yesterday and she asked what our most popular sport was and I said "football". She then went, "but you don't have a very good team, do you?". The truth hurts eh?
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I think that only we can change the perspective of others towards our football because in reality we do suck. I was out with a Norwegian lady yesterday and she asked what our most popular sport was and I said "football". She then went, "but you don't have a very good team, do you?". The truth hurts eh?
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LOL omg she said that??So how did you answer her??
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LOL omg she said that??So how did you answer her??
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I smiled and said, "you're right" smile.gif

If a lady from Norway who has only visited our country twice can tell me that, imagine what seasoned male football fans may thinl
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On the issue of local bred football players, whatever happened to Titus James? Has he chosen to make his name elsewhere or is he somehow in the Malaysian setup? Never seen him live in action, but from what I hear, he's really good in juggling the ball, though in no way is that a decent measure on how good a player is.


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I smiled and said, "you're right" smile.gif

If a lady from Norway who has only visited our country twice can tell me that, imagine what seasoned male football fans may thinl
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Tell me about it. My dad used to tell me tales of the great Malaysian superstars like Soh Chin Aun and Mokhtar Dahari, creaming all over the floor about how the side then was considered one of the Asian juggernauts. Even Europe quaked in their boots playing us then. Now I wouldn't put it past an under 15 Brazilian side twatting us left right and centre

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Last I heard, Titus was plying his trade in the French Third Division or something. Not surprised no one has mentioned him though. I mean even Lim Teong Kim's exploits with Bayern Munich have gone unnoticed.
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malaysian young footballers usually is very good at the early stage....but sucks big time in latter stage.....the best example is akmal rizal....he is very good at his young age when he play in third division club in france (forgot the club name).....but when he back in malaysia league...his performance become worse....
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 25 2009, 03:08 PM)
Last I heard, Titus was plying his trade in the French Third Division or something. Not surprised no one has mentioned him though. I mean even Lim Teong Kim's exploits with Bayern Munich have gone unnoticed.
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I remembered Lim Teong Kim is using his Bayern experience to improve malaysian football.
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i believe malaysian kampung boy actually quite good with football.. me always plays with some elementary school students who plays for their district or state.. they're quite good you know.. but the football system quite corrupted, lead to what-happen-now in malaysian football.. the selection of players, particularly state players, more on recommendation by someone prominent in the area, not professionally selected by the coach (some of them only). means those dirty politicians have their say. disobedient means no money to the team.

i strongly believe that the talent is there in the kampung. but the system is corrupted. maybe all the inspiring kid at malaysia should have their own youtube clip, so they can easily be tracked by the best scouts worldwide! hehehe.



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TS should change the thread title, since wonderkid talents are very rare, which make this thread kinda boring. Promising talents who are now active in the first team should be good additions IMO.
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