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post Jan 28 2009, 10:40 PM

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It's so true that students can't accept 'i don't know' for an answer..they would even make noise if the lecturer ask them to figure it out themselves as they are used to being spoonfed all the time

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post Mar 2 2011, 11:17 AM

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Applying to be a lecturer in IPTA, unfortunately, still depends on the colour of your skin. No matter how the proponents wanna argue that it's open to all races, this is still the hard cold fact. A colleague of mine who has over 30 ISI listed international journal papers is not even called for an interview. I couldnt believe it when he told me the HR informed that application was rejected.
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post May 14 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 14 2011, 07:48 AM)
all my non-bumi friends who applied got in. they had no problem securing government scholarship to the UK, europe and japan. one of them already became senior lecturer despite joining the university later than i did. i'm still a lecturer trying to climb up the ladder, and he's already up there.

know ur facts first. IPTAs dont work like u think it does.
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While i try hard to convince myself there is no quota, etc, my own experience tell me otherwise. i applied for a post in an IPTA and was not even called for interview. A simple answer was given by the HR, the dean rejected my application. A friend working at the faculty later told me that since that person becomes the dean, non-bumi academicians never been able to join the faculty. True enough, most of the current non-bumi faculty members are pioneers and same scenario for other faculties as well. So maybe there is no official memo, but you cant deny there is a possiblity of 'hidden quota'.
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post May 14 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 14 2011, 10:53 AM)
then blame it on that dean.

there's no quota for academicians. we need all the people that we can get. feel free to sue that dean for prejudice or racism.
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Would be great if the mentality of such people can change. Prejudice and racism is not the way to go. smile.gif
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post Jul 6 2011, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 6 2011, 06:11 PM)
IPTS sure. but not in IPTAs.
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Some IPTAs can whistling.gif
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post Jul 6 2011, 09:03 PM

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^ From the staff profile for IPTAs like utem, uthm, ump, just to name a few, you can see many lecturers are without Phd. Some are on study leave for oversea Phds, but getting lecturer salary? Most of them are somewhat new, thus I doubt they obtained their position pre 2003 circular. More established ones like UM, UTM, UKM, USM, UPM require their lecturers to be a Phd holder though.
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post Jul 20 2011, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ken.B @ Jul 20 2011, 07:07 PM)
Can anyone elaborate more on being a research assistant for a lecturer?

Does that mean that both the assistant and lecture will get masters?

With a cgpa of 3.00, am I eligible to apply for research assistant?

Thank you in advance for your advise! smile.gif
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The lecturer is a master holder already la, so the assistant is the one doing the master study.

opss...already answered by Az above.

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post Aug 9 2011, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 9 2011, 05:30 PM)
sure, u can try. but remember, PhD thesis is public domain. everyone has equal right to read ur thesis and dispute it. those who "bought" their PhDs NEVER would reveal their thesis. just go and check those artists with doctorates. even a slight mention about their thesis they will go out of their way to change the topic!

PhD is serious matter. PhD is about creating/acquiring new knowledge that does not exist before. for example, ur PhD found out that pi is not 3.1742, so it is significant in the body of knowledge that it's a game changer. but u cant get a PhD by simulating an existing knowledge, for example, proving that 3.1742 can be used to calculate a circumference.

so if ur lecturer did "buy" his PhD, ask him to share, publish or present his paper in a conference.
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I think you misunderstand the poster's statement la. He is not talking about buying PhD but rather, whether a PhD holder can easily earn RM 6 to 7K or not icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 10 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Aug 10 2011, 09:25 AM)
go for it!
no such thing.
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got..you go to IPTS wub.gif
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post Aug 10 2011, 11:19 AM

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IPTA or IPTS, with masters?
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post Aug 10 2011, 01:25 PM

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Those reputable IPTS can give you at least 4k, some even higher.

By the way, being an academician is not about salary only as the thread seems to be skewed this way. Bear in mind this is under education section, not jobs and careers.
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post Oct 16 2011, 04:25 PM

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RM30k per year refering to master degree by coursework? My take is that degree by research is more valuable in the academia world (some may disagree), and the main hindrance is funding or grant to do your research. What is your field or area of interest?

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QUOTE(ralphfaeill @ Mar 20 2012, 12:45 PM)
i just want to know..

i really interested to become a lecturer..but im just confused a few things..

i. i have a bachelor degree but not reach cgpa 3.00..almost near..
ii. i have a master degree with cgpa 3.44..
iii. i have industry experience for 4 years...

is that good enough to become a lecturer??..and if i got accepted to work as a lecturer..i'll continue my PhD locally with my own cost (i x want to get bonded)..

guys..what do u think...really appreciate ur comment s and kindness..tqvm.
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what field?
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post Mar 20 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(ralphfaeill @ Mar 20 2012, 12:58 PM)
Bachelor degree in Foodservice management
Master in Human resource development

working experience in both industry respectively..3 years with food industry as foodservice exec and 1 year as training and development executive for HR..hurmmm..
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my fair opinion. your pointers during bachelor deg is on the low side, but you should be able to compensate it with your industry experience, so it boils down to how impressive your CV is and your conduct during interview.

also, bear in mind that the premier IPTAs only accept PhD holders, but you can try other IPTAs and also IPTS. Good luck smile.gif
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post Mar 21 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 21 2012, 02:41 PM)
with 8-10 years u will not start at the bottom ler. if u have some serious experience under ur belt, especially if u're one of the industry leaders (in whatever manner), they can straight away give u associate professorship.
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and that time the salary more than this group dy '30+ yrs old will earn like 5 - 6k' drool.gif
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not yet include the tons of allowances hehe
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post Mar 27 2012, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(Resha Valentine @ Mar 27 2012, 12:52 AM)
oo Thanks. is it true that one cannot become a lecturer with a degree alone? masters n phD is a must?
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depends on which institution.
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post Mar 27 2012, 11:34 AM

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^totally agree. if money is the main motivation, academics is not the right direction.
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post Mar 31 2012, 02:02 PM

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For no 3, take masters in business if you intend to lecture in that field.
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QUOTE(LaiFany @ Apr 6 2012, 12:18 AM)
What's up guys. I'm an SPM leaver who wants to pursue a career which I think is promising, well, in this case, being an English lecturer.

2. I don't think that a degree holder could become a lecturer in colleges. ( Or do they?  shocking.gif ) So, do we have to complete our Masters or PHD before even thinking of becoming a lecturer?
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For some IPTS, you only need a degree to teach english in foundation courses. But if i recall correctly, you said you wanna pursue Software Engineering??

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