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I go into the office only twice a week. It is difficult to think of many other jobs that can beat the flexible hours of the academia.
no record? IPTA or IPTS?become lecturer in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 2 2012, 08:05 PM) Neither. I'm based overseas. That is nice. Local ones may still require some sort of record. Tend to be abused by some thats why. What about administration work, is there any?No record. No leave application either. I only need to be there for the classes (app 5 hours per week). As long as I meet my publication targets I'm fine. This post has been edited by Human Nature: May 2 2012, 08:50 PM |
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ May 25 2012, 03:24 PM) Hi all, Lecturers have to meet a certain set of KPI, and publication is one of the criteria. How it affects the perks and annual bonus depends on the weightage given to this criteria, usually set by the university. It is likely that publication is one of the most important criteria for promotion. Getting fired for not having publication, in my opinion, is very extreme.I am a student currently doing my Masters, and I am thinking of becoming a lecturer. From what I gather from reading this thread, there are some IPTS that accepts a Masters holder as a lecturer. I know that most lecturers will have to do research as well. The thing I’m curious about is regarding the publications, I’ve heard that lecturers have to publish a certain number of publications every year. Is that true? What I am curious to know is what would happen if a lecturer fails to meet that requirement? I do believe I will enjoy teaching, though I’ve no experience in teaching yet. It is the research part of a lecturer’s job that worries me actually. So if anyone has experience on this, please share with me. Thanks. |
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May 26 2012, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(OMG! @ May 26 2012, 08:51 AM) Yes, research is never a predictable thing on when and how long you are going to get it done. That is not entrirely correct as non Phd lecturers are required to have publications too. Tiers are determined by the university and different universities may have different set of tiering. When we discuss about IPTA and IPTS, we should differentiate between the premier and non premier ones. In low ranked IPTAs, you can still become a lecturer with just a master. As for premier IPTS, research and publication is a major component.Most of my lecturers did their Phd in overseas and end up in local university IPTA , teaching and researching are two main roles they do. Occasionally, they have to attend conferences, involved in mentoring, and paper works for sure. Publications are only a must if you are graduated from Phd, and not really applies for Master. there is a tier 1,2,3 publication where the Tier 1 is the most excellent work of publication. If you intend to just further up to master, you may find a lecturer position in IPTS to be relatively easier to secure compared to IPTA as IPTA now aiming for producing full time Phd holders to hold the lecturer position. While for IPTS which is not so heavily inclined on research, most of your time will be on lecturing. By the way, again, it is important to state your field of study. |
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QUOTE(OMG! @ May 26 2012, 06:50 PM) Yes thanks for clarifying. Do you know how to differentiate a IPTS between the premier and the non-premier? There is no real classification for IPTS in Malaysia. There is a so called SETARA rating but research only contributes 15% of it. Few years back, I came across a statistic on the number of publications generated by the various IPTA, IPTS and government agencies in Malaysia. Perhaps such kind of data gives a better representation on the R&D activities carried out by these institutions. Would love to know what is the current statistic now.As far as I know, those with university status will belong to the premier one, but I am just not too sure how established their research works and publications do. Sunway, Taylor, HELP, Monash, Nottingham, AIMST, UCSI for sure belong to the premier one, right? |
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May 26 2012, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(OMG! @ May 26 2012, 07:11 PM) It is like comparing apples and oranges if we compare the research activities between a IPTA and IPTS due to the nature that IPTA are heavily highly supported by gov giving grant to carry out their research and thus theirs are much more established than IPTS. To me, IPTS is a money-minded industry, more or less, majority of them focus on getting more postgrads students with no strict requirements imposed. But some do very well, and contribute a lots to the industry and economy. Indeed. Getting fund is still a major hindrance and the awarding bodies prefer to award IPTAs. Nowadays, there are these common collaboration exists between IPTA and IPTS from the fact that many of the Phd candidates with main supervisor from a IPTA have co-supervisor from a IPTS. Both complement with each other very well in research activities. Here is the R&D indicators that I mentioned previously. http://www.mastic.gov.my/servlets/sfs;jses...D=1118046919668 This post has been edited by Human Nature: May 26 2012, 07:28 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 26 2012, 08:58 PM) I think Monash and Nottingham can probably stand out from that list. I have no idea about AIMST (is this not semi government?). For the rest, I can tell you that research effort is minimal. They are trying to push for it, but still lightyears away. I would put UTP and MMU in the top IPTA list too.Added on May 26, 2012, 9:04 pm QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 26 2012, 08:58 PM) Oh they do this because the government encourages it. There's a scheme whereby an IPTA gets funding if it collaborates with an IPTS. Actually it is the other way round. Higher chance for IPTS to get funding if it collaborates with IPTA This post has been edited by Human Nature: May 26 2012, 09:04 PM |
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May 26 2012, 09:26 PM
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Maybe it is to create a win-win situation
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 26 2012, 09:51 PM) Anyway for my field funding really doesn't matter. I just need a proper library and that's it. But people still whine about not having funding. I guess they whine about the money. Speaking of which, research grants can be a good source of income. Researchers are entitled to a good amount of honorarium. Whine is not a nice term. You may be lucky that you dont require fund, but other fields need fund to do a proper research. And you dont pocket money from research grants as everything has to be in record, especially when government fund is concerned. |
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I agree that getting a research grant should not be the focus, merely pointing out that grants should not be perceived as income.
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 26 2012, 10:59 PM) Yes, I know. There are subject areas where funding is important for research. I'm confining my statement to my field. When you see these people yourself, they you may find whining to be an appropriate term. That is the sad reality as i do know some researchers as well who keep whining not getting their proposal endorsed yet refuse to take remedial actions. |
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ May 28 2012, 10:51 AM) Thank you all for the replies. From what I gather from your replies, the requirements for publications is dependent on the IPTA or IPTS itself, whether they are research intensive or teaching intensive. Since I'm still doing my masters and unsure which organization will want to hire me in the future, I guess the requirements of publications is a moot point for me at this moment. May I know your Masters is in what field, and is it by-research? You can become a lecturer with a master degree there, preferably by research degree. The uni is getting more and more research intensive, thus you can expect the focus to be on publication and commercialization. If I am not mistaken, you will be required to publish at least 1 ISI listed journal paper within tier 1-3 annually and a few other research-based criteria. Teaching and admin duty is another part and parcel of the job. As per ranking, MMU is the top IPTS in Malaysia at the moment.I am currently doing my masters in the field of engineering in MMU. Since I'm familiar with the university, my thoughts are that I might want to attempt to apply for a lecturer position later in MMU. So I'm just wondering, what are your thoughts about MMU? Is it a more research intensive or teaching intensive uni? Does it have a good reputation with regards to lecturing/researching? Thank you all for sharing. This post has been edited by Human Nature: May 28 2012, 11:33 AM |
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QUOTE(dragontongue88 @ May 29 2012, 12:01 PM) My masters in the field of telecommunication engineering, and it is by research. I see, so MMU is sort of a more research intensive university and a highly rated IPTS. Requirements include publication of a high ranking journal every year. Thanks for the info. It does seem like it will be difficult to get a job as a lecturer with MMU but I guess I'll give a shot and apply once I finished my masters. Most IPTS accept master candidates. As for IPTA, you can try UTEM, UTHM, UiTM, and browse the staff profile page for UMP, UMS, etc too. Top ranked IPTA like UM, UKM, USM, UTM, UPM only take PhD holders.Just out of curiosity, do you happen to know what other IPTS/IPTA that would accept masters qualification as lecturers? The reason I'm asking is because after the completion of my masters degree, I would prefer to get a more permanent job as a lecturer first while working towards my phd, for want of better financial security. I could be mistaken, but I believe assistant lecturers are usually on contract. Hence my preference for a job as a lecturer. Do correct me if I'm wrong. Added info for MMU, the norm is that you will be employed on a contract basis first, and then you can apply for a permanent position subject to several criteria. Since you are doing your masters there, I suggest you to try to find out from HR what are the requirements. You are currently doing masters full time, not as an assistant lecturer? This post has been edited by Human Nature: May 29 2012, 12:32 PM |
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ May 30 2012, 04:08 PM) How much does a fresh phd lecturer in USM earn? Assuming that PhD holders are now senior lecturers, this is the old scale (not updated since the recent increment)The pay for teachers seem to be rising and lectueer is higher grade i think haf good future Gred DS51 P1T1 RM4573.47 - P1T10 RM6439.44 P2T1 RM4789.15 - P2T10 RM6730.27 P3T1 RM5013.18 - P3T10 RM7029.45 Basic only |
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There was a pekeliling (circular) stating so. All PhD lecturers get gred 51 dy. Havent include allowance and consultancy work yet.
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QUOTE(douji @ Jun 12 2012, 04:09 PM) phd holder can earn up to rm6000++ if work as lecturer, the increment will be rm500++ per year, and this does not include other outcomes that you can earn from seminar, giving training and workshop, usually rm 100++ per hour i think you need to specify what type of institution giving this offer as it varies greatly.QUOTE(nirmuda @ Jul 2 2012, 11:43 PM) After lecturing in Korea for 4 years, I finally decided to come back to Malaysia and lecture here. Just watch for backstabbers. They are the worst.I lecture English Literature and boy was I disappointed at the fact that : 4. Politics is also 'amazing' here. It's either you play the game, or you're out of the game. I might leave again if this all gets to me. |
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It all depends on what type of lecturer you want to be. Just do the minimum, no sense of responsibility to the student, just refer to previous teaching materials, no consultancy, no research, just one or two admin work. There you go, easy life. And unfortunately, there ARE lecturers living their bed of roses in this way.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 1 2013, 02:06 PM) despite the relatively smaller amount of salary compared to what we think a PhD is worth, lecturers like me do receive grants in order to do research and/or publish. for example, once a year i embark on a journal paper or book chapter that earns me RM5k in equipments. how do you get a grant for a journal article? the grant is solely for article write up only? i may apply for this at several ventures at any time i feel like it. a book chapter for me is just about 2-3 week's job. a journal article is a bit longer. but it would mean two free laptops a year. or a considerably enviable gaming-capable PC (alasan nak buat 3D rendering bla bla bla). and because it's equipments for university use, it's not taxable to me. and after 5 years, it will be declared obsolete and purged (dilupuskan), in which i can buy it for RM100. that is, IF i want to. RM6k is not a lot. true enough. but that's RM6k with nothing much to spend on. laptop? dah ada. ipad? pun ada. smartphone? covered. books? lagi laa jangan cerita. hardcore gaming PC with multiple graphics card each with its own HD monitor? muahahahaha... life's good. |
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