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CyberSetan
post May 3 2009, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(morph @ Feb 8 2009, 10:34 PM)
www.backinmotion.com.my

Dr Barry Kluner is a very nice doctor whom i've visited.
1st consultation is free if you print out the voucher from the website above.

It's in Sunway btw smile.gif
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QUOTE(dzaijic @ Jan 12 2009, 12:32 PM)
Added on January 12, 2009, 12:36 pm

Dr Green in Brickfields Rm 85.00 Premier Chiro in SS2 Rm 70.00 Dr Kan in Damansara Rm 60.00
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I have a question, does the Malaysian Ministry of Health allows the "Doctor" title to be used by chiropractors in Malaysia?

I have the following arguments regarding this matter that needs to explained:



I quote -
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The term Doctor is applied to a medical doctor (holder of an MBBS or equivalent qualification) or a phD doctor. Practitioners of "alternative medicine" be they chiropractors, sinsehs, bomohs, auyervedics and what-not should not use the title "Doctor" as this would mislead the public into thinking they have undergone mainstream medical training and have an MBBS qualification.
- source: http://medicine.com.my/2004_10_01_mmrarchive.html



I quote from MMC:
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2.1. Dewasa ini, penggunaan gelaran ‘doktor’ atau singkatan ‘Dr.’ begitu berleluasa
sekali.

2.2. Selain perubatan, graduan dari beberapa bidang pengajian lain seperti veterinar,
pergigian dan juga doktor falsafah juga turut menggunakan gelaran tersebut.

2.3. Disamping itu, bidang pengajian yang formal dan diiktiraf oleh kerajaan dan
juga badan-badan pelesenan seperti di perenggan 2.2., ‘graduan’ dari pelbagai
bidang pengajian dari dalam dan juga luar negara yang diragui kesahihannya
juga turut menggunakan gelaran ‘Dr.’ bagi menjalankan pelbagai aktiviti licik.
Bagi menyukarkan dikesan pihak berkuasa, mereka menggunakan nama yang
disingkatkan.

2.4. Gejala mendorong orang lain mempercayai bahawa beliau adalah seorang
profesional yang berdaftar dan berkelayakan untuk mengamal profesion
tersebut bukan sahaja ujud di dalam dunia perubatan bahkan juga melibatkan
profesion-profesion lain


Malaysian Medical Council: http://mmc.gov.my/v1/docs/2008(15).pdf (Click it)



I quote again:

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Gilbey finds that the abuse of the title doctor is widespread and that chiropractors are the main culprits. An amazing 82% of 146 chiropractics used the title Doctor, andL most of them used the title to imply falsely that they were registered medical practitioners.


The New Zealand Medical Journal: Doctor Who? Inappropriate use of titles by some alternative “medicine” practitioners

Any chiropractors around? please explain.
CyberSetan
post May 10 2009, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(chiropractor @ May 5 2009, 02:16 PM)
Ministry of Health Malaysia certainty don't allow chiropractors to put "DR." title in front of their names.

However, in USA, Canada, Australia, UK..etc.  Most countries which recognizes chiropractors do allow the title "DR."
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QUOTE(chiropractor @ Feb 9 2009, 05:12 PM)
Optimum Chiropractic & Physiotherapy Centre
M-1-12 Plaza Damas, Sri Hartamas, KL 50480
TEL: 03-6201-8933

http://www.chiropractormalaysia.com/

Dr. Michael Lee (Doctor of Chiropractic, Naitonal, USA)
CCO registered Chiropractor (Ontario, Canada)
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As you are practicing in Malaysia and as per Ministry of Health regulations regarding this matter:

Why do you still use the "Dr" title in front of your name (as seen in the website above)?

Did you remind your patient not to call you "Dr" as it will create confusion?


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CyberSetan
post May 4 2010, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(chiropractor @ May 4 2010, 12:29 PM)
We are totally qualified and recognized as Doctors in USA, Australia, and Canada.
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THis is MALAYSIA.
You want to go against MMC and Malaysian Law is it~?

Read it again: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry25605941

Added on May 4, 2010, 2:40 pm
QUOTE(konchy @ Apr 30 2010, 04:59 PM)
What do you call people who have PhDs? Fake doctors?

A Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) is not the same as a Doctor of Chiropractic (DC) which is also not the same as a Medical Doctor (MD)
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The term Doctor is applied to a medical doctor (holder of an MBBS or equivalent qualification) or a phD doctor. Practitioners of "alternative medicine" be they chiropractors, sinsehs, bomohs, auyervedics and what-not should not use the title "Doctor" as this would mislead the public into thinking they have undergone mainstream medical training and have an MBBS qualification.


http://medicine.com.my/2004_10_01_mmrarchive.html

Did you even read through the entire post?

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CyberSetan
post May 4 2010, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(chiropractor @ May 4 2010, 03:32 PM)
This is Malaysia.  I am referring to USA and Canada

Added on May 4, 2010, 3:38 pm

Going against the law??  I am not sure what you are talking about.  No one here is going against the law.  When we practice in Malaysia, we follow the MOH guideline here.  In USA, the same.

Added on May 4, 2010, 9:08 pmA foreign chiropractor coming to Malaysia to practise must be registered with the Ministry of Health, and we must have all the right qualification in order to register.  Once we have the approval letter from the MOH, only the work permit will be given by the immigration.

Against the law?  when you are working in this country without a work permit, that's against the law!
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I was referring to the Misuse of the DR title by alternative medicine practitioners~! Read the following again~!

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The term Doctor is applied to a medical doctor (holder of an MBBS or equivalent qualification) or a phD doctor. Practitioners of "alternative medicine" be they chiropractors, sinsehs, bomohs, auyervedics and what-not should not use the title "Doctor" as this would mislead the public into thinking they have undergone mainstream medical training and have an MBBS qualification.


http://medicine.com.my/2004_10_01_mmrarchive.html


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On another note, here is what some Americans think of Chirocpractice:



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post May 6 2010, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 5 2010, 10:03 AM)
hahaha. the war between the title 'DR'..

neways.. i know a female chiropractor by the name of Dr. Kate Paczek, not mistaken in Premier Chiro. very nice, sweet lady. but i haven't seen her for bout 4 years. need to check with my mum for her contacts if u want.
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This is a MUST watch:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-7dYfZ0T8E



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_QCxJvFtE




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ikPkVQ5XI



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHX7m09OZ8E

These are a MUST read:

http://sandynette.com/
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chiro.html
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelate...hirostroke.html



Think carefully~ The decision to treat your body is up to you~

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CyberSetan
post May 7 2010, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(syyang85 @ May 6 2010, 05:59 PM)
i tried chiro. it didnt work. and still hurts. its been 2 yrs
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See this as well, perhaps you will come to understand:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NBxShj_MEg


Daniel David Palmer (Founder of Chiropractic) says and I quote:

"A subluxated vertebra . . . is the cause of 95 percent of all diseases. . . . The other five percent is caused by displaced joints other than those of the vertebral column." - (From: Palmer D.D. The Science, Art and Philosophy of Chiropractic. Portland, Oregon: Portland Printing House Company, 1910.)

... That is of course is stupid~



http://en.allexperts.com/e/d/da/daniel_david_palmer.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_David_Palmer

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CyberSetan
post Aug 16 2010, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 7 2010, 03:18 PM)
can't watch in office. will watchin a week or two when i'm free. doh.gif
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Have you done watching? what is your view point?
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