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 Promod or Pam4, for a tournament

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post Jan 7 2009, 05:43 PM

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This is only my Opinion so if anyone hurt by this comments, Im really really sorry cry.gif .. Promod seems to me alot like Cunterstrike, no sway and alot more stuff that they edited... I am a bit disappointed because Cod4 is very different and very original in ideas from CS, and why the hell they edited it to make it like the old but still wont die, CS? Its as if they want to make it CS like, we as Cod4 players do not have many choices to make during gameplay.. Dont you think that the developers of Cod4 spent a lot of time researching and developing the game as real as it is and you guys think that they purposely certain aspects such as the guns make the game imba?? Come on guys, in real life there is a large difference in weapons power and accuracy... so it is up to US as players how to use it efficiently...Who says that a little gun as for an example Uzi cant beat an assault rifle like Carbine? Its all depend on our skills actually guys.. And also the gunsounds from outside the maps... We are playing a war game right guys? So why the war sounds and other elements disappeared to? Is it a nuisance to you guys as it distracts people? Please, these are the real war conditions if we go to war guys.. They serves a purpose in the game...It makes you more cautious during gameplay...

So this is the end of my opinion...Again I'm sorry if i hurt somebody with this comments.. Please FORGIVE me nod.gif
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post Jan 7 2009, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Grr @ Jan 7 2009, 06:29 PM)

KayFX and 21: If you check back to the SCG tournament thread, you would see that a lot of your opinion that you have expressed here mirrors the ones expressed in there. I used to think that promod was alot like CS until I played more of it. Yeah, sure, the graphics suck but it was made that way to help with the FPS. Even before promod when most of the bigger clans would play against each other, more often than not, most of the screens would already look like that because everyone would enter commands to help make their game smoother. Already there are tons of stuff that makes CoD4 different from CS. Aiming Down Sight and Proning may seem really small but they make a heck of alot of difference in gameplay.

I think the main reason why promod is being promoted to a certain extent here is because we have realized that with our current Malaysian ruleset, it's hard to make the playing field level for the newer teams especially in Dom. At least with promod, you can watch demos and learn nading and shooting spots.

I honestly believe that the Malaysian ruleset's allure has alot to do with the heavy dependance on perks and how sometimes it can be used to replace shooting skill. You've stated your points and I'll respect that, but if you want to post further on this, please find an older thread to do it on because there are quite a few around. This isn't the place to convince people to play either one, but rather, just to vote.
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Relax oh my senior Grr, biggrin.gif I did not state my comments to convince ppl to play either one... I merely commented on what they edited the Cod4 either promod or pam4.. I've played and seen promod and pam4 alot... and i've came understand it ... i'm only pointing that with the mods either pam4 or promod, I seems to have lost the "feel" of Cod4 i once played.. nod.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(prash @ Jan 7 2009, 06:30 PM)
i can assure u the game designers did not spend alot of time to design the game for competitive gaming.they spent alot of time doing the research n devolopment to design a game that they can make money from.all the realism/perks system is done for the mainstream gamers who pay for realism n replayability of the game.that is y the competative gamers make mods on their own with little or no help at all from the game designers to make the game playable competitively.Just out of curiosity,did u buy the ori version of the game for all their hardwork?

just because u or others think promod is very much like cs doesnt mean we cant have promod tourneys.if u dont like promod u can always choose not 2 join because at the moment there are pam4 tourneys as well such as the upcoming tbun tourney.FYI pam4 can also be customized to be exactly like promod.just need to edit the configs.
pls play at least 10 scrims (5v5 matches) in promod 1st before commenting on whether promod is fun or not.alot of people have been playing pam4 for so long that when they switch to promod its hard to adjust n it might feel very different to some until they dont like it.i have been playing promod for quite sometime now and when DAMN mod was released i didnt like it either cause its just differentn i didnt agree with some of the changes that came with it.as i played the mod a little longer it grew on me even though the DAMN mod is even more like CS.unfortunately the damn mod is still buggy.

at the end of the day we cant make everyone happy.whether we choose pam4,promod or damn mod as the main tourney mod i am sure someone will still be complaining.

i voted for promod.since we alrdy having a pam4 tourney y not have a promod tourney?a good chance for all the clans to try out promod seriously.
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Dear senior prash, relax abit... cry.gif i did buy ori version if that answers a part of your question.. I did not say i didnt like Promod or even pam4... and i knew about Damn mod... i learned it, tested it, came to understand it... its all comes back to my main point, I or we seems to have lost the "touch" or "feel" of the Cod4 once played.. the elements, the guns, the perks, all have been edited to suite the players needs and making the game balanced.. and all we have left is the modified versions of cod4... in which there are not many choices we can make during gameplay..and far from reality of war nod.gif biggrin.gif
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post Jan 7 2009, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 7 2009, 07:32 PM)
We're not suppose to even discuss "oh promod suck so bad cause no sway" or "pam4 suck cause too many random-ness". =/ Come on lor guys, don't turn this thread into pam4 or promod suck thread. sad.gif
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post Jan 7 2009, 07:46 PM

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To all my seniors, i am sorry if offended you guys! notworthy.gif nod.gif
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post Jan 11 2009, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(snipaboy @ Jan 11 2009, 01:24 AM)
There is a bug with STOCK / Pam4 gunsway. On your screen the gun may be swaying left, but server side it's swaying right. The snaps 30 doesn't help bullshit either. nogunsway eliminates this bug. And then again, saying that sniper = imba without sway, your team has a sniper that has nosway as well, not to mention your 47s and 74us have no sway. Don't be onesided with your opinions plx. ^^v *TRIBUTE TO AEON!*
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*Sigh* You guys still doing it again..Its just an opinion and he or anybody else including you deserved to give his/her opinion whether its one sided or not...Here is XEF aka's reply for you guys who doesnt seem to understand what kayfx said is just an opinion not a discussion! shakehead.gif

QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jan 7 2009, 07:38 PM)
Alot of discussion about promod or pam4 better has been done and I don't think we should start another soon-to-be-close-by-mod-cause-too-many-flame-bait thread with couple of ppl got "holiday". =/
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post Jan 11 2009, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(snipaboy @ Jan 11 2009, 09:03 AM)
Can you read?

EDIT: And to your quote on AKA's post, the SWAY has nothing PROMOD whatsoever cause in the international RULESET FOR PAM4, they are using this nosway fix as well.
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*Sigh* Yeah, i can read. Mr. I knows it all sad.gif Dont you think peoples opinion differs? Some maybe onesided and some maybe not and we cant do nuthin about it right?... i guess you didnt learn that eh? *Sigh* So, can we stop now and let them be? wink.gif

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post Jan 11 2009, 06:22 PM

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-No Fear.my,Jan 11 2009, 05:07 PM]
yea should.
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