I cant remember where I actually read it but it was either this thread or the suiting thread that I read about a tailor in KL having a Sifu from Seremban (most probably Kotmj's MBT). So I was there in Seremban and I tried going to a few tailors asking about stuff and one of the tailors mentioned that theres only two sifu in Seremban but he wouldnt mention the name of the sifu and all he did was snigger in a weird way... then the conversation turned into ALT and his snigger went even wider and he said "hes that very old man right?" and he laughed. weird.

anyhow, its hard to believe that these tailors are from the same sifu since none but one ever heard of a fully canvassed suit nor much about other stuff. btw, how do you tell someone in Mandarin that you want a fully canvassed suit and ask how much itll cost you?

btw Kotmj, do you happen to be able to tell me how to determine whether a suit was glued together or not when its already completed? thanks.

care to explain more on the pinch test?

true, i am clueless and not as knowledgeable as you are but everyone has to start at some point, dont they?
plus im not a fan of beers.

anyhow id love to see how it would go with you using my own pair of eyes. maybe he'll tell you stuff about the sifu and you might get a hand closer to your next MBT(insert number here)...

oh and can you tell me the right word/phrase in Mandarin to ask for a fully canvassed suit.

This post has been edited by JeffxMatt: Aug 20 2011, 12:28 AM

so far as my limited knowledge goes, a fully canvassed is that there is a canvass between the fabric and the lining of the suit whereby the canvass is not glued to the fabric using high temperature method but are hand stitched (but some tailor uses machine to stitch the canvass and can be seen by the way the stitches are however some large or at least rich tailors have this machine which tries to duplicate the looks of a hand stitched, jump stitching machine or blind stitching machine, i think).
a fully canvassed suit is given structure by the canvass.
a fused suit is given structure by fusing or gluing the 'structure' to the fabric.
Since there is a gap between the canvas and the fabric for a fully canvassed suit, it allows the suit to breathe more than a fused suit.
For a fused suit, if the fused structure somehow detaches itself or un-glues itself from the fabric (most likely due to mistakes during dry cleaning), itll harm the drape of the suit causing, uhh, 'bubbles' to appear and this is irreparable (i dunno how to phrase this part out, sorry but i hope you get what i mean).
A fully canvassed suit will not face this problem and its lifetime is said to last longer than a fused.


well, this is all that i know of the difference between a fused and a fully canvassed. So, did i pass the test? or am I gonna get branded as an idiot?

really? quite a shame... though, what about the 0.5%?

This post has been edited by JeffxMatt: Aug 20 2011, 09:04 PM

*gives a huge sigh of relief* i pass lol

anyhow, thats more simple than i thought... and silly of me for not thinking that in the first place

thanks for telling me about the pinch test! ill try that later on.

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Added on August 22, 2011, 7:20 amBtw Kotmj, if it's not too much to ask, can you please do me a favor by posting close up pictures of your trouser's hem (from inside and outside and how they're stitched)? thanksss

btw, are yours removable?

This post has been edited by JeffxMatt: Aug 22 2011, 07:57 AM

Irmond, i think what MeToo is trying to say to you is that the price (rm350) is just for the workmanship fee.

so rm350 is only for the suit jacket and rm500 is for the suit jacket plus trousers? you better clarify with the tailor whether the price includes the fabric and workmanship or its only for the workmanship.

good for you then.

Kotmj, any chance for me to get the pic i requested before?

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Added on August 29, 2011, 5:23 pmbtw, im gonna bring my friend to one of the tailors in Seremban (the one that ive mentioned before). He'll be the lab rat (if i manage to persuade him to commission a suit there)... Wish me luck.

This post has been edited by JeffxMatt: Aug 29 2011, 05:23 PM

i managed to persuade my friend. idk what cloth he used (he bought it somewhere beforehand) but it felt rather heavy, around the weight of a Super 150-200. I did warn him to get something light and tropical fabric but i guessed he didnt listen. ah well..

anyhow, the first fitting is set on either the 10th or 11th. Ill try to make sure i take some pics.

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Added on August 29, 2011, 9:21 pmKotmj, i tried asking that guy if he knew about cuff for trousers, he didnt. Had to show a picture to him before he understood what i meant and he said to me "..nanti masuk pasir liao..." or something like that.

This post has been edited by JeffxMatt: Aug 29 2011, 09:21 PM

the tailor said he would gladly do it for me if ever commission a suit at him and i wanted cuff on my trouser's hem but he wasnt too confident about being able to make a nice one plus he quite a faith about it collecting pasir.

i guess 1 3/4" would be just nice for a short guy like me or should i go for 1 1/2"? my height is roughly 160-170cm.

anyhow, id need more practice on treating them like a slave, a note or two from you would be highly appreciated.


im short too but hey, im still getting em one of these days. and i think Kotmj has quite often said he is short himself but you can still see him having cuffs on his trousers and it still looks good.


nice one mate... mind showing us a picture of your long and thick 'leg'?

perused it, have you?

ahhh, lovely. thank you Kotmj! that wasnt so hard now, wasnt it.

thanks again

im pretty sure that if you've followed this thread for a while you'd know that just by knowing what you want and being able to convey it to your tailor is insufficient.

plus, you should know that the skill level of tailors in Malaysia, (as Kotmj likes to say it) are below moderate.

and im quite positive that you'd still need to go for fittings even if you bespeak your shirts at Saville Row.

This post has been edited by JeffxMatt: Sep 6 2011, 05:42 PM