Uwaaa~~~ new topic!! (Sorry, I haven't really active in LYN this days)

Any Biomedic UKM? There's like 15 pages here... Sigh...

3rd year is coming next sem, still thinking on what to major in; Pathology, Biochem and Microbiology. I like generally all 3 choices... sigh...

Welcoming to the first years student~~ the result were out already right?

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Added on June 2, 2009, 12:48 amOk.. finished scanning through the posts. So far, I'd really didn't consider going for medicine after my degree. Although I always have a deep interest in clinical disease research particularly histopatholgy, I haven't really come to a point to be interested to be an actual doctor since I like lab more. Maybe I'd changed when doing my practicals.

So far....

Its UM right? I've always been curious about how you'd study for final year which seems to be crammed with everything including thesis.


and I'd like to know how each university allocate it's subject for semesters. Just out of curiousity...

And have anyone been informed with kompentasi generik? It happened in my faculty and they're trying to suit its issues into the subjects. I know its good intention but is it necessary. Personally I think its a politician propaganda of making a student life even more a hell.... since KG is in the CGPA too...


and personally, its a bad time to be in public university when university activity is also counted in the CGPA and most of it takes most of the study time

This post has been edited by aoibhealFae: Jun 2 2009, 12:48 AM

I'm starting my third year next month (gosh, its been two years of uni suffering) and this time my term is damn packed than rapidKL sardinized bus... I had compulsary class (Khidmat Masyarakat) on saturday for two semester. Pain2... I had practicals later next year and which left my fourth year for thesis and major/minor subjects.

Kompentasi Generik is kinda like an idealist dream to make our normal live a hell.... one of the main issue is they were mainly including faculty and college activity (you know, sports, major events like fiesta, convo and acedemically-non related activities) and combine it to the CGPA. You know, for a major or minor event, it took months to prepare, weeks and nights of meetings and hundreds of ringgit money spend on nothing...

example If you study a bit, you enter so many activities and end result, you get pity marks but a full 4.00 under KG. While in cases like, crazy study (I know, some people had slower memorizing rate and had to study extra hard) and didn't cover the KG, s/he won't get full CGPA since s/he failed KG.

Any of you have this issue?

So... is it proper? Its not even a solution to combat unemployment. (Since they said, entering college activity boost your entrepreneurship skills, financial skills, people skills and ect) Its freakin' recession year! Most people are multi talented enough.. but do we need to be fed with a do-or-die situation for a mindless cause such as this?

It never make sense to me since its use for government working people and shouldn't be touching students at all. There's barely any time for some students to study and classes (some of my friends had classes until 10pm) and joining events committee. So its not really fair for the students emotional health even.

Yes, its like compulsory subject like Titas, English and Khidmat Masyarakat but KG is not really properly supervised even it went under PPU and done by fellows and dean. So, I'm really vocally against other university considering extracurricular activities included into CGPA. You can put them in resume, its ok, but NOT in our results!

Its like the 10% koku in our result for UPU. Except that the 10% doesn't mean anything in UPU (if you realize it, they don't make a big deal now than during my SPM and pre-U years) KG is like 15% in our every semester results...... thats why I'm very worried about it. Personally, I know some of us were expert in some thing unofficially... its a skill but the way they make it is like we need to relearn them in university even when we already know... and its really tiring...

read this if you want to know more; http://www.ukm.my/portal/berita130209.html (the article that support KG officially being done as compulsory)

surprisingly, they made it like generally ALL of us were literally idiots just because we can't perform well in interview and make up like GENERALLY, all of us need help starting by failing us on purpose.... The uni admin has no clue that what they were doing....

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OMG, I won't recommend you to take neither biomedical nor biochemistry if you have a blood phobia. In biomedical, there'll be subjects with blood
topics which you either analyse the blood to check enzymes or chem levels, you use the blood in practicals (blood smear and ect) or even phlebotomy in subject as medical lab tech, biochem, anat physio, parasit, hematology and ect.

Neither is superior degree. Every topics is important but how you use it is what matters.

For biochem, I distinctively remember the biochemist students taking my blood to check if i had G-6-PD deficiency last year. For their senior's research. And yes, you'll deal more blood in research (for example, you'll kill hundreds of rats and take their blood later for analyse)

Biochemistry deals MAINLY on enzymes or testing chemistry in either environment, non-human, plants and ect. endless cycle in which enzymes involved. Complications, disease and metabolites. "chemical processes in living organisms." is merely a gist in a whole lot of cycles of life and the chemical structure that involved in which you need to memorize and honestly equally complicated. (Thats why I avoid biochem unless its something I like, a.k.a. genetics)

At the safe side. Try applied chemistry. No blood and only plants or other non-human stuff like QAS, QC and ect. (My sister and my dad is chemical graduates. My dad is a chemist who deals mainly forensic narcotics but he's a director of the place, so he don't do lab work much except management. I've elaborate it in other threads, just look it up)

Biomedical science is in reality the actual Medical science (they include bio- since its confusing between medical doctor students and medical science student... but now people thought biomedic is same as biology science until I say I studied disease and not tree-hugging)

First year, we learn how a human body works from basic chemistry, physiologically and anatomically. We had to learn psychology to as we do know psychology does affect physiology functions. Then we learn disease process, how to diagnose a disease, differentiating if its communicable (bacteria,virus,fungi,parasite) or incommunicable disease (their nutrition, way of life, psychology and ect). Biomedical covers what doctors usually don't. We don't treat patients but we help confirming diagnoses by analysing bodyfluids, scrapping and all sorts to culture and tested. We work as a team. If a hospital operates without a fully equipped biomedical specialist, technicians and assistance... they'll be having a lawsuit for practice. Seriously, how can you really diagnose if a person have H1N1 or SARS or common cold WITHOUT lab test.

Biomedical students can choose to major in Biochemistry and become Biochemist by proxy. In hospital, every biochem samples were given to the biomedical technician (who is biochemist in other words) to be analyse the levels of gas or enzymes or foreign substances. Biochemistry students who have no strong medical knowledge can't work in hospital without proper credentials. You can however, venture in environmental check (test the lake for mercury toxification in fishes (where you collect a hundred or more fish and test the content for toxic levels) or research in nutrition and public health as such but not directly handling human specimens.

Biochemistry degree is a specific degree which mainly concerns chemistry of biological molecules such as enzymes, vitamins and how it works in reality of life. But human is not really an issue in biochemistry degree as there are other living thing on earth too. (Aqua life, plants and ect) So a hospital can't hire a biochemist unless they had a strong history in biomedical science.

Biomedical science degree is a versatile degree. You can enter medical school with it. Or research in fields like pathology, biochemistry, forensic science, entomology, parasitology, genetics, epidemiology/public health and ect. You can even consult in pharmaceutical company as a sales supervisor of the product. You can work in ministry of health administration among doctors who don't want to work in hospitals. You can make business of selling medical product or biological samples (medical leeches anyone?). Launch a rivalry company against Pathlab. And endlessly.... you pick.

No one is going to force you to do what you don't want. Its the question of you pick what you want to do and work hard for it.

and this thread is specially for biomedical student and grad interacting with each other and not biomedical students and grad explaining what biomedical is and what the differences is and seriously there's already other biomed threads that you can find without antagonizing everyone here. So...

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BTW, I like blood. Even if its fake blood (my stunt in theatre) and imaginary blood (the books I've read) and other people's blood (typing and seeing ppl do phlebotomy since I can't do them yet until I passed advanced hematology in fourth year). Every now and then, you'll realize how mentally sick we can be.... heheheh...

the only thing I've done that sickened me to this day is in my first semester's physiology's lab where I hold a frog while a male friend of mine cut off its head from corner of its mouth and poke its spinal cord so that the normal nervous system won't effect on the muscular movements of its leg... When I let it go, the thing still move without its head it stay dead... seriously thats far more disgusting than blood....

so, generally, I use to say, "Don't be a baby in medical food chain... no one is going to cuddle you."


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FYI, there's already a Food Science degree. you don't really need a biochemistry degree to specialize in it, applied chem also have a syllabus in it. But please don't mistake it with Nutrition degree, its a whole lot different thing.