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 Malaysian Dota Scene Administration., Rankings updated @ 14 May 2010

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Odin`
post Jan 6 2009, 09:50 AM

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Well the problem with players jumping from team to team can be solved by dividing those points among all the 5 players.
What underminer is trying to do is to protect sponsors from losing all the points they built up for their home team, but as far as i know its really difficult to keep players.

Therefore, if you want an accurate point system, the points should be divided by all 5 OR 6 members of the team. However, your excel file will be huge smile.gif In the end we might even get points for 3v3 or 1v1 and we will be able to know who is the TOP dota player in Malaysia thumbup.gif
Odin`
post Jan 6 2009, 10:51 PM

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Yeah its always unfair for the team leader and sponsor's when teams break up. However, its impossible to tie all the points to the team sponsor or the leader because some teammates might be unfairly treated or compensated. Hence, they leave the team etc.

Right now its really difficult to to gauge who contribute more to the team so I guess dividing the points equally would be fair.

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Loda's new team might not be seeded only if he replaces his teammates with new players in the dota scene. As for Kenchi's case where he can recruit many famous players their points would be quite high as well and I assume that the new team would be seeded as well.

The 4 members that left and built a new team and got seeded. I feel that they deserve to be seeded as well. Dota is a team game, and you cant say they are nothing without Loda. Obviously Loda would have needed them in many cases and therefore, they have done their part as well.

Conclusion, before a sophisticated system whereby points can be allocated individually according to a players performance during a competition, it is impossible to allocate more points to a player.

In my opinion, whether the point system would work or not is very difficult to be determined and must be tested for a certain period.
OR we can take a sample from previous tourneys and implement this point system and see whether the seeding is accurate enough or not.

By testing the sample, we can optimize the system so that we won't be implementing a system that is totally flawed to start with.



As for the database management, it should be transparent and cross checked by the dota community for its accuracy and integrity.
Maybe the flow should work like this. The organizers of a dota event will be entrusted with the data entry of all participants and point will be awarded at the end of the competition.

Then the "Master File" will be updated by underminer and uploaded on a website or forum for all to see. The reason for this is there will be cross checking and many copies of backup all over the world or Malaysia biggrin.gif
Underminer should keep many backup copy of the database and named according to date e.g. Master File as at 1.1.09

Thats all for now, time to sleep already >< as the topic says since its a discussion I'm just sharing my opinion with the dota community and hopefully some part of it can be useful smile.gif


 

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