yep.
once u get used to the life, it'll be fun.
btw, when r u guys registering?
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Jun 14 2009, 08:28 PM
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yep.
once u get used to the life, it'll be fun. btw, when r u guys registering? |
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Jun 15 2009, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE(thermo_reseat @ Jun 15 2009, 01:55 AM) hmm...so it's streamyx 1M package + Celcom 3G = rm 108 ?? no wireless in library but can use computer over there to on9.the celcome3G usage is limited ? how to count wor? ===== btw, during the studies is caring out in terenganu campus, isnt having wireless internet in library ? so is it necessary to have own 3G internet in order to access internet? alam will arrange u passport. mine was done in the 2nd sem. |
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Jun 15 2009, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(thermo_reseat @ Jun 15 2009, 02:22 AM) okay... computer in RC are stricted for study purpose only. internet also very2 damn slow.anyway, can use the computer for personal purpose ? like email ..foruming..chatting ....or just for studies purposes only ? eh bro, can u list out the stuff we are goin to study for DME ? like phy chapters ...math chapters...all the academics stuffs ...boleh arh? if u got not free time then never la coz now, still got few weeks to standby math is more about integration(sem2) and differentiation(sem 1) |
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Jun 17 2009, 03:27 AM
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QUOTE(saikomatic @ Jun 15 2009, 09:07 PM) none of them right now.they'll be 1 month in melaka bfore coming to trengganu. around october-november if i'm not mistaken. QUOTE(silverchain @ Jun 16 2009, 10:13 PM) just curious..later all dme will study at alam's campus in terengganu regardless of their sponsorship right? yes. |
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Jun 18 2009, 11:09 AM
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dunno. during my batch also got something like that.
the later u can register the better. coz only have to go short induction. btw, about the cadet that will be sent to USMMA(for degree course). only applicable for aet & misc sponsored cadet only. |
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Jun 18 2009, 01:16 PM
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yep.
ur coc is more valuable than degree. This post has been edited by destroyer: Jun 18 2009, 01:16 PM |
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Jun 19 2009, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Jun 19 2009, 09:34 PM) I got Nautical Science & Maritime Transportation @ UMT, Terengganu yeah. you can't work as a officer onboard ship even if you do phd. you'll need to have COC. my advice. finish ur stdy 1st. after that, apply to any shipping companies for 12 months of cadetship training onboard ship. then, sit for ur oral test with mardep.But i have no idea how do i start my career... Anybody ? |
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Jun 20 2009, 06:52 PM
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yeah. dont waste ur money to cut at the shop.
they'll cut it for free. |
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Jun 20 2009, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(silverchain @ Jun 20 2009, 07:03 PM) don't bring any electrical device at first except for hp charger. btw, let me mind you all something. they'll take ur hp for 1 whole week during the induction prog. so, no communication with outside world for 1 week.QUOTE(vinothen @ Jun 20 2009, 10:04 PM) hahaha...good larr..no need waste RM6 tapak 1 kalau x silap. terengganu got hsdpa.Added on June 20, 2009, 10:07 pmanyway...how short will they cut? Added on June 20, 2009, 10:29 pmterengganu got 3.5G? |
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Jun 21 2009, 01:55 AM
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Jun 21 2009, 02:25 AM
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wait a minute. does the COC u mention is "Marine Cargo Operation and Container System"
becoz, you cannot get ur COC(certificate of competency) without ur 12 month seatime. |
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Jun 21 2009, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Jun 21 2009, 02:29 AM) 本科系的学生只需在第四年于Academi Laut Malaysia考获COC(Certificate of Competence)就有资格驾船。 i think there is misguide from what you've read. according to MARDEP, you can only sit for ur 4th class COC once you've collected enough 12month seatime(for deck). COC is issued by mardep and not from alam.For those who study this course, can sit for COC @ Academi Laut M'sia @ 4th year then you can work on a ship... Well, maybe the info was wrong, i will have to ask the senior from there then... |
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Jun 21 2009, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(masrila5 @ Jun 21 2009, 11:03 AM) Hello, welcome to the thread senior. nice meeting u here.I'm new to this forum. It's a good forum indeed. Well, I'm almost a decade in sealife career. Currently onboard one of MISC LNG carrier anchoring outside Bintulu. There are about a bunch of big LNG carrier currently here. Although anchoring and not trading, we're still making money because of the 25 years contract. Well, back to the topic, me myself almost reaching the peak of my career still find this life at sea very challenging and exhausting. With modern shipping nowadays, seafaring is not about travelling and go shore having fun anymore. Like Midnightjive said, the money is good but not great. But it depends on ur perspective. Even milionaire still try to get more money right? But if u start from scratch, at the the peak of ur career u will have almost everything. I speak based on experience. You can have ur sport car, a bungalow, a beautiful wife with high mantenance but still manage to keep few K's in the ASB. It depends on how greed u are. The more u earned, the more u want! For those who are new to the industry, welcome! It's a long way to go but if u can survived it, it will rewarding. Frankly speaking, I also do not have a good SPM result. But I am glad I did choose this career as it is not as hard as u imagine. Truly speaking, thus far the hardest exam I took is SPM. If I choose to enter any of the uni, maybe I still jobless. Hehehehe. I'm a marine engineer officer, not a deck officer. During my junior years, there are Brit's officer and engineer onboard. And they are the one that kept bashing each other between deck and engine side. Since they left, the relationship between all dept are very good. They also the one that make we, Malaysian think seafaring is a very hard job. Believe me, if I can do it, most of you can. Yeah, deck and engine officer got different job scope. Suffice to say, deck officer bear much more responsibility than engineers although the work is not as hard. But engineers got to socialised more due to 8 to 5 working hours. And engineer always work as a team while deck officer always alone on the bridge. As for ship's, try to get into LNG fleet as this fleet is more secure than others. And it is also cleaner and safer. If you got the Bintulu - Far east route, you got to see Malaysia twice a month. And in Bintulu anchorage you still got 3G access. It's true, MISC ship don't have internet facility. For engine cadet to be, MISC only have 2 DFDE LNG career while the rest are steam powered vessels. That's all for now. Good job for starting this thread. It is a good info although some is misinfo. All the best to you who just joined the industry. btw, do tell me what is the misinfo coz i want to correct it to make a good guide for newbie. btw, what is ur rank now? 2nd eng? This post has been edited by destroyer: Jun 21 2009, 11:14 AM |
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Jun 21 2009, 12:26 PM
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okok.
yep. about the leave pay. will revise that later on. and will correct it. tanx senior. btw, you're from alam or poli? |
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Jun 21 2009, 02:03 PM
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owhh... i see...
so, still waiting for Ceng promotion ke? |
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QUOTE(Midnightjive @ Jun 22 2009, 06:37 PM) Logistic is the transport of air, land and sea combined. Don't expect a good salary in the first 10 years. Cause it is based on experience and how you network with other parties. You need to have a strong command of English as well and Mandarin due to China is one of the important markets for supply chains. Malaysia is having a shortage in this industry, and i've seen jobs with good pay abojut 15k -20k for someone who has expereince of 7-8 yrs. The problem is that you need to have a good PR, if you're a smooth talker, no problem. i see. thank you bro. btw, about the DP, i heard the nearest place we can take the course is somewhere in singapore. am i right?In the event you delay a shipment, it may be the difference between losing million or gaining million when you're on time. Thats why they want really experience ppl in this field. Also an option to consider is Ship broking if you're in the logistic line. Ship brokers are the ones that are really rich in the shipping industry, imagine if you manage to get a contract for 20 million, you'll earn 1%. Diploma in Maritime Tech, no idea what they do with it ! Sorry babe! Added on June 22, 2009, 6:40 pm LOL looks like you're a PUTERI BOY LIKE ME! bet you like Colin Buchannan !:P Added on June 22, 2009, 6:57 pm You don't need to PM me, we live in a competitative market, its our right as seafarers to share our salaries. 3rd Engineer / 2nd Officer Most foreign LNG salary range(for Malaysians) Maersk, Qatar Gas (nakilat - Shell ship management) Teekay LNG, NYK LNG 5 months work, 2 1/2 month off Year long salary when you're onboard Basic Salary + uniform allowance + tanker allowance+ LNG allowance =2100+25+350+840 TOTAL onboard salary = US 3315 about 11500 ringgit When you're on leave you get = US 2100 about 7400 ringgit additional : bonus, yearly medical allowance (about 1200US) Just remember, things are harder in foreign companies. Everyone treats you as an outkast, you'll be treated the same way MISC treats foreigners. If you can take the challenge working in a foreign company. Why not? Yes we are understaff and almost minimum crewing , but i love my life here in Maersk. But if you want good training, go to MISC. Get the experience and when you want to leave, LEAVE PROPERLY. A lot of MISC guys came to Maersk but went back, what to do, katak bawah tempurung, cannot stand the stress, not used to working with multi national crew. If you do a mistake here, trust me, ppl are less forgiving. But if you know your job, you studies well. No one can touch you! Okie so if you're on other type of ships the difference is the allowance you receive. So far LNG is the highest. (except DP vessels) Added on June 22, 2009, 7:26 pm Think Chem engineering is equally a good career. Branch out into marketing. Some of my buddies are in that area. Lets just say hmm they are quite comfortable. Chem or petro chem are closely related (chem is general and petrochem is more related to the O&G industry), and yes i've seen some guys going to offshore rigs and convert into Petro Chem. Who is sponsoring you? one more thing, dp officer are required onboard dp ship. how about dp engineer? heard that dp engineer often handle ROV thingy. |
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QUOTE(vinothen @ Jun 22 2009, 09:48 AM) is unikl as good as alam. haha. everybody will try to say that their are the best. but actually, most people that i know who were studying in mimet proceed their degree under different course. why? because mimet are still new and most company don't trust their graduate yet. mostly their marine engineering student will work in a shipyard because company don't trust that they are capable of working onboard. but, it all depends on yourself. if you "pandai cari lubang" then no matter where you grads, you can still find a job.unikl offers mimet while alam offers dme. what's the difference? one of my seniors studying there said that unikl is much better compared to alam. then i replied that it is not true... are they doing this because they are jealous? QUOTE(madfella @ Jun 23 2009, 12:54 PM) @MIDNIGHTJIVE proceed with ur degree. then enter OnG and you might earn higher than us.I am sponsored by INNER WHEEL MALAYSIA. They said dat they will sponsor me for an addition scholarship to study foreign(master) but i need to maintain a given CGPA la... But, i'm scared la..coz nowdays, job chances for chem engineer are very low and not in demand as in 5 years ago... hmmm...still blur.... Oh ya, where can i go to study petrochem? I heared it is a oil rig job ryte? @vinothen when u gonna leave to alam ar? study hard.. @sliverchain ur sponsor is BUMIARMADA ryte? have u been called for medical checkup yet?? 1 MORE THING!!! i juz received a call from MISC!! how la??? anyone can tell me which is better? CHEMICAL ENG AND MARINE ENGINEER?? please... QUOTE(afieQ @ Jun 23 2009, 04:49 PM) oh man, i'm in dilemma.. haha. that's all sacrifice. my plan is, after working few years onboard, i want to go into government when i'm about 35. if you look into SPA(suruhanjaya perkhidmatan awam) website, under the job categorize in degree holder, you can apply for "Pegawai Laut" position if you have 2nd class COC and 1st Class COC. that means your 2nd class and 1st class ticket are as more valuable than degree. because fresh grad dgree holder have only education. but COC holder have education+EXPERIENCEi'm really interested in seafaring, some guys from SMA came to my school just now and gave a talk on the seafaring career and it really make me more interested (they look damn cool too It is nice and all but I don't like the "- The sea is your life. You are there much longer than you are on land. - Far from family" because I don't want to be missing out on all the fun happening on land (all those animes and stuffs) and I don't want my childs to be lack of love, I want to raise em up and be there when they need me. |
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QUOTE(vinothen @ Jun 24 2009, 07:35 PM) June 24, 2009, 8:25 pm Hi, I would like to ask about marine engineering in Malaysia. 1. depends on urself. u can continue working in shipping industries or join OnG. as marine engineer, ou can also work as a steam engineer on shore. with gov... etc. too many to explain. you just have to find it urself. same goes to deck people. deck people normally go for management position because they are more familiar with the job.1. What is the job prospect? 2. Demand and job opportunities 3. Example of company i can work with. 4. What is the best place to study it. For now, there is 2 choices in my mind which is UniKL and ALAM. 5. How do i get in into ALAM? When do the sponsorship usually open? 6. Is it good studying it in UniKL? The accredition of the program and employment of grad. 7. Which is better? Aircraft Mantainence Engineering(composite) or Marine Engineering? Am going to apply at UniKL for either one of this course. this question is asked by destroyer http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/651523 now he is studying in alam...Great job Ts 2. very demanding currently, just slow down a bit because of current economy situation. because you can choose to work in 2 place which is sea-going or shore place. while some profession only offer shore based job. 3. AET, MISC, AP Moller Maersk, Qatar Gas, Bumi Armada, Intra oil, Jasa Merin, GMV, etc. there are hundreds of shipping companies out there. 4. Currently is ALAM because you got sponsorship from shipping companies thus ensuring u with job. but you'll have harder life. you'll have more fun in other college, but prob with sponsorship. 5. you'll have to apply for it. the application of alam usually open 2 weeks after current spm result of the year is release. read few pages starting from 1st pages. bcause i have answer most of it. 6. i'm not sure about this. call them more to ask about it. 7. don' apply for composite. apply for aircraft maintenance. although the name almost the same, but composite deals more on the bodpart of the aircraft. means you'll be more specialise in manufacturing. while maintenance engineer more on technical aspect of the aircraft(like LAME) QUOTE(sudubengkok @ Jun 25 2009, 10:23 AM) can anyone here tell me anything about deck officer? study timeline same like dme. salary also same like engineer officer. fture prospect more towards management(there are more, you'll just have to ask deck guys here). - study timeline - salary - future prospect - anything related so far u guys been talking about DME only plzz..... QUOTE(karisma @ Jun 25 2009, 12:31 PM) i need some information about alam's semester break holidays... they told us we can't go back for 2 months and parents can't cum n c us yep. for the first 1month or 2month you're not allowed to leave the campus area. parent can come and visit you. major holidays like hari raya and deepavali, you're given normally 1 week holiday.Added on June 26, 2009, 1:02 am QUOTE(vinothen @ Jun 24 2009, 07:35 PM) June 24, 2009, 8:25 pm Hi, I would like to ask about marine engineering in Malaysia. 1. What is the job prospect? 2. Demand and job opportunities 3. Example of company i can work with. 4. What is the best place to study it. For now, there is 2 choices in my mind which is UniKL and ALAM. 5. How do i get in into ALAM? When do the sponsorship usually open? 6. Is it good studying it in UniKL? The accredition of the program and employment of grad. 7. Which is better? Aircraft Mantainence Engineering(composite) or Marine Engineering? Am going to apply at UniKL for either one of this course. this question is asked by destroyer http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/651523 now he is studying in alam...Great job Ts 2. very demanding currently, just slow down a bit because of current economy situation. because you can choose to work in 2 place which is sea-going or shore place. while some profession only offer shore based job. 3. AET, MISC, AP Moller Maersk, Qatar Gas, Bumi Armada, Intra oil, Jasa Merin, GMV, etc. there are hundreds of shipping companies out there. 4. Currently is ALAM because you got sponsorship from shipping companies thus ensuring u with job. but you'll have harder life. you'll have more fun in other college, but prob with sponsorship. 5. you'll have to apply for it. the application of alam usually open 2 weeks after current spm result of the year is release. read few pages starting from 1st pages. bcause i have answer most of it. 6. i'm not sure about this. call them more to ask about it. 7. don' apply for composite. apply for aircraft maintenance. although the name almost the same, but composite deals more on the bodpart of the aircraft. means you'll be more specialise in manufacturing. while maintenance engineer more on technical aspect of the aircraft(like LAME) QUOTE(sudubengkok @ Jun 25 2009, 10:23 AM) can anyone here tell me anything about deck officer? study timeline same like dme. salary also same like engineer officer. fture prospect more towards management(there are more, you'll just have to ask deck guys here). - study timeline - salary - future prospect - anything related so far u guys been talking about DME only plzz..... QUOTE(karisma @ Jun 25 2009, 12:31 PM) i need some information about alam's semester break holidays... they told us we can't go back for 2 months and parents can't cum n c us yep. for the first 1month or 2month you're not allowed to leave the campus area. parent can come and visit you. major holidays like hari raya and deepavali, you're given normally 1 week holiday.This post has been edited by destroyer: Jun 26 2009, 01:02 AM |
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QUOTE(D@I @ Jun 30 2009, 09:43 PM) ermm... your sponsor is same like other sponsor such as felda n jpa.now,i not think about payment... but,now i must decide want go alam or not... my family don't want i go coz my sponsar.... they sad my sponsar not good... the prob with gov sponsorship is that you need to find ship for ur shipboard training. @maniac_rage you're dme24 right? haha. i'm ur junior dme25. will be going for shipboard training this year. btw, they've introduce demerit system. many were expelled becoz of this system. so, make sure u guys behave well. |
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