EPIC, seriously can't wait.

*hums* where'd you go, i missed you so, it feels like forever, that you've been gone *hum*

Falk mentioned that Modern Warfare and CoD will be separate?

Call of Duty - WW2
Treyarch

Modern Warfare 1/2 - Present
Infinity Ward

Honestly, there isnt a real need to change the engine, cept to enhance certain details like the omgiaccidentlyclimbedacarspacebar button.

Also, i believe they should have the option of all perks or no perks or even an in-game you can/cannot use this perk system. Its not hard to do, looking at the files. But i hope they learn from what became of pam/promod/am/damn/zombie mods that diversified/enhanced the game. Generally, all they really needed to do was to have the option of having "tournament" style maps/game modes, and "public" style maps/game modes to choose from. This at least shows that they are interested in something more than just the public eye.

Modding has helped this game stay alive but it also diversified and divided the overall community. Perhaps now they will set this straight and either make it easier to mod the game or set their own ground rules for tournaments.

Unlike Counter Strike which originally started off as a mod for HL, which introduced a completely new metagame and then evolved into a standalone game, the problem with CoD4's PAM/Promod/etc competitive scene is that it's an enhancement of an existing game type bundled with CoD4, and the international community has had ~10 years of 'experience' in the sense that they all kinda each 'know what they want', hence the splits between versions, etc.

As much as I'd hope for Infinity Ward to embrace the pro gaming side of things (Heck, even Blizzard's World of Casualcraft is trying to break into that market share with official support for tournaments/tournament servers/etc) I remain highly skeptical that MW2 will oblige us right out of the box. They didn't do it for CoD4 even after some moderate community interest in CoD2.

And let's face it, the amount of people playing in European/NA/Asian leagues are pretty much a drop in the bucket compared to the hordes of people playing pubs daily on X360/PS3.

The only real way it'll change is if some leagues, with their sponsors, start throwing some serious money and publicity at the game that Infinity Ward sees it fit to embrace the subculture. Unfortunately, the old saying that "Money talks" is very true here, and IW (talented lot that they are) can't afford at all to spend development time on something if only a few hundred people appreciate it in the end.

This is part of the reason we're trying to fan some life into the Malaysian (+Asian) CoD4 competitive scene. Any support we can offer to our peers at the EU/NA international level in terms of showing the popularity in competitive international gaming for Modern Warfare in these critical months up to the game's launch in November is absolutely essential.

Doing largely volunteer work marshaling and admining tournaments on weekends isn't something that remains fun for very long, but I'm putting in that effort because I do want to see Modern Warfare going places, long term. CS is on its last legs, and lets not even talk about Sudden Attack.

One thing that can make or break MW2's competitive scene in its first few months is how much IW acknowledges and supports that we exist, or failing that, how the international community reacts as a community in the absence of that support. Can they agree on a specific ruleset this time around? I'm really hoping that the Asian community will at least have some weight and voice by then, rather than us playing with our own toys while EU/NA argue over Promod/Damn mod.

This post has been edited by Falk: Apr 5 2009, 03:47 PM

O___o. Agree. XD.

My aim is that we at least get a vote in TCA.

I should be able to arrange for such in the future but I'm too lazy to start the process.

For MW2 I should think by now it'll be patently unsupportive of the competitive scene out of the box, what that is what mod support is for. As long as they AT THE VERY LEAST give mw2 as much mod support as cod4 got, then I'm not particularly worried, competitive mods will come out, and the CoD community are particularly "unified" at the moment, they see the benefits of give and take so that they can be unified and represent one single mod ruleset so that it can be used in tournaments globally.

Well yeah, I really hope that the community (specifically the one immediately surrounding the well-known names in modding) learnt a thing or two from the ridiculous amount of shit-flinging that's been going on in the past two months or so over what mod to use.

Well the shit-flinging made for some really entertaining posts to read

Shit-Hadoken!

Just occured to me. Go register "www.themwalliance.com" now and we'll be set starting November. :V

izikill. try come to our HQ.. tbun 2 wangsa maju.. here pc are always up to date..

yea i heard of it.....pc over there have some nice specs....pj area CC really sux wei

This post has been edited by Pro-MX: Apr 7 2009, 10:09 AM

Modern Warfare 2 Gameplay Reveal Promo

i hope it doesnt turn into another damn Battlefield game with vehicles. Hopefully less perks and i hope there is not *TAKEDOWN* like in the vid =.=

i 2nd that quack.

If IW is listening to noobs on Twitter for Live feedback last time, I guess there will be more perks and weapons. And sure the stupid "reality" things will come out. You see wtf got Judo?

If vehicle is available then forget about it unless there's competitive mod by IW itself, then there's hope.

i tot thats what i heard. IW going to make it as open as it can to make sure we can mod it like hell. =P im pretty sure it can be highly competetive.

Refer to the original CoD4 trailer. There's a lot of animations that exist solely for single player/cinematic purposes. :P I mean, how much of that trailer's content do you see ending up in what the big EU/US leagues use? (i.e. Promod today)

Also Infinity Ward's single player portion of games are famous for their scripted vehicle missions. (all the way from CoD1's 3rd level to CoD4's finale) I'd actually be extremely surprised if you -didn't- see a glimpse of that in MW2's trailers.

This post has been edited by Falk: May 12 2009, 07:25 PM

How about the takedown similar to knife? Just that you need to takedown the knife the fella..