hye... anybdy know how to get Ir title?

register with BEM first.... then u can proceed from there.....

all u need is a camera to snap picture and laptop to document them all..... collect a sufficient amount of project uve handled to brag on and simply apply

edit : opps... im actually mixed up between IEM and BEM..... but no harm in registering both

This post has been edited by @riff: Dec 21 2008, 09:12 PM

any test we must take or not?

You usually go for somekind of interview to receive chartered status.

please search title... i posted more than 10x already...

1) register with IEM
2) enter as grad member
3) practice under a pro. member for 4 years & take ur exams at IEM* new rules from what i heard
4) attend interview n write report
5) pay more membership fees

This would help:

Here you go

wow encik engineer..
g.luck... if you tooooo young jangan harap lah...
need experience to gain it..

Improve your English first.

why not list down your current experience

Join IET and get chartered engineer.. recognised worldwide..

2 year exp working in construction, 3 years exp working in consultant... thats the minimum requirement... and got exam.... they hav the procedure.... ask BEM lor... if u studied Engineer is Society in college... ur lecturer shud tell u about this....

Well getting Ir requires you to get registered with Board of Engineers Malaysia (BEM). Upon approval for as a graduate engineer, you must undergo a structured program learning under a mentor who is a Proffesional Engineer (Ir) or if your workplace has none, their log book program. This goes on for 3 years. After that you sit for your interview with an Ir; two phases- formal interview then write 2 long essays from your field of practice.

I suggest you head down to a branch office of IEM (no typo) as these guys can help you with the BEM stuff- the Penang branch is very helpful for me tho any branch will do.

ps. Picozoo's reply made me unsure about Civil engineering.

My info is reliable only for local graduates.

what my bos said (Ir also..)... civil engineer need to work on both career.. which is construction and consultant.... and else.. are same as kaiserwulf said.... actually i oso don know whether it is very easy or not to get the Ir title... hehehe.. gud luck for the engineer who want to be Ir...

Not sure about BEM or IEM can give u with IR title, because the exam should be under ST or suruhanjaya tenaga as i told by IR engineers, BEM/IEM only can give u P.ENG title.

Syarat-Syarat Untuk Menduduki Peperiksaan Perakuan Kekompetenan Jurutera Elektrik Kompeten
(Peraturan 47, Peraturan-peraturan Elektrik 1994 dan pindaan-pindaannya)
Seorang warganegara Malaysia.
Memegang Ijazah atau kelayakkan yang setaraf dengan ijazah dalam kejuruteraan elektrik daripada universiti atau institut yang diiktiraf.
Seorang Jurutera Profesional dalam kejuruteraan elektrik yang berdaftar dengan Lembaga Jurutera menurut Akta Pendaftaran Jurutera 1967.
Mempunyai pengalaman kerja tidak kurang dari lima (5) tahun dalam persekitaran di mana terdapat pengendalian kelengkapan elektrik dan telah mempunyai pengalaman mengawal kelengkapan hidup.
Boleh bertutur dan menulis dalam bahasa kebangsaan.
Mempunyai pengetahuan yang mencukupi tentang amalan kejuruteraan elektrik moden, termasuklah prinsip-prinsip pengendalian kelengkapan yang digunakan untuk penjanakuasaan, penghantaran, pengagihan, penggunaan, perlindungan dan pemeteran dalam pepasangan elektrik dan pengurusan kecekapan tenaga.
Mempunyai pengetahuan yang mencukupi tentang pertolongan cemas, pemulihan pernafasan dan rawatan renjatan elektrik.
Mempunyai pengetahuan yang mencukupi tentang Akta Bekalan Elektrik 1990 dan apa-apa peraturan yang dibuat di bawahnya.

Permohonan Baru:
1. Syarat-syarat permohonan baru bagi sekatan 11kV sehingga 33kV
Mempunyai pengalaman bekerja tidak kurang dari lima (5) tahun dalam persekitaran dimana terdapat pengendalian kelengkapan
elektrik dan telah mempunyai pengalaman mengawal kelengkapan hidup.

2. Syarat-syarat permohonan baru bagi sekatan melebihi 33kV sehingga 132kV
Mempunyai pengalaman bekerja tidak kurang dari lima (5) tahun dalam persekitaran dimana terdapat pengendalian kelengkapan
elektrik dan telah mempunyai pengalaman mengawal kelengkapan hidup.

3. Syarat-syarat permohonan baru bagi sekatan melebihi 132kV
Mempunyai pengalaman bekerja tidak kurang dari lima (5) tahun dalam persekitaran dimana terdapat pengendalian kelengkapan
elektrik dan telah mempunyai pengalaman mengawal kelengkapan hidup

Permohonan Naik Taraf:

1. Syarat-syarat naik taraf bagi sekatan 11kV sehingga 33kV
a) Memiliki Perakuan Kekompetenan JEK sekurang-kurangnya satu (1) tahun pada sekatan yang lebih rendah dan berdaftar
dengan ST.
b) Pengalaman kerja selama 1 tahun pada sekatan voltan yang dipohon.

2. Syarat-syarat naik taraf bagi sekatan melebihi 33kV sehingga 132kV
a) Memiliki Perakuan Kekompetenan JEK sekurang-kurangnya satu (1) tahun pada sekatan yang lebih rendah dan berdaftar
dengan ST.
b) Pengalaman kerja selama 1 tahun pada sekatan voltan yang dipohon.

3. Syarat-syarat naik taraf bagi sekatan melebihi 132kV
a) Memiliki Perakuan Kekompetenan JEK sekurang-kurangnya satu (1) tahun pada sekatan yang lebih rendah dan berdaftar
dengan ST
b) Pengalaman kerja selama 1 tahun pada sekatan voltan yang dipohon.



Sukatan Pelajaran (Syllabus) Bagi Jurutera Elektrik Kompeten
KERTAS 1 - Jawapan bertulis kepada soalan yang disediakan.

Perkara-perkara berkaitan:
a) Akta Bekalan Elektrik 1990 dan Akta Suruhanjaya Tenaga 2001
b) Peraturan-peraturan Elektrik 1994 dan pindaan-pindaannya
c) MS IEC 60364:2003 ‘Electrical Installations of Building’
d) MS 1936:2006 ‘Electrical Installations of Building – Code of Practice’
e) MS 1936:2006 ‘Electrical Installations of Building – Guide To MS IEC 60364’
f) Kejuruteraan Elektrik Am
g) Peraturan Keselamatan (Safety Regulations)
h) Pertolongan cemas (First Aid)
i) Kejuruteraan Elektrik Moden dan Aplikasinya

Kelengkapan Elektrik
Pengetahuan asas, cirri-ciri keselamatan teknikal, pengoperasian dan penyenggaraan:
a) Perkakas suis, interrupters, fius dan pengasing, mesin-mesin berputar dan pemula, kuasa, voltan, arus, pembumian, pengubah, kapasitor, perintang, rectifier dan converter, pengalir, kabel, meter, radas petunjuk dan geganti pelindung, penangkap kilat, radas-radas dan aksesori.

Pepasangan Elektrik
Pengetahuan asas, litar-litar, kapasiti litar pintas, kelegaan keselamatan, operasi dan penyenggaraan:
a) Set penjanaan dan papan penyegerakkan, motor, pemula dan suis, litar utama, kemasukkan utama dan sub-stesen agihan, papan agihan, feeder pillars, talian atas, penyenggaraan, kabel bawah tanah, pendawaian dalaman, lampu jalan dan lampu laman.

Sistem Elektrik
Pengetahuan asas, tata atur, paras kerosakan, susut voltan, kehilangan dan pindah beban, keperluan keselamatan, operasi dan penyenggaraan: Penghantaran dan pengagihan rangkaian, sistem pembumian dan perlindungan kilat, pendawaian dalaman, lampu jalan dan lampu laman.

Pelbagai
Pengetahuan asas, aspek-aspek keselamatan, operasi dan penyenggaraan:
Penggerak utama stesen janakuasa, on-load tap changes pengubah, sistem pemadam kebakaran, sesalur busbar janakuasa dan medan litar motor, set janakuasa bergerak dan mudah alih.



KERTAS 2 - Temuduga Profesional
Temuduga professional berdasarkan:-
a) pengalaman dan latihan yang telah dijalankan oleh calon dan jawapan bertulis kepada soalan yang diberikan.
b) pengetahuan berkenaan dengan Akta Bekalan Elektrik 1990 dan Akta Suruhanjaya Tenaga 2001 serta Peraturan-Peraturan Elektrik 1994 dan pindaan-pindaannya.


Fi Peperiksaan Perakuan Kekompetenan Jurutera Elektrik Kompeten
1) Peperiksaan Perakuan Kekompetenan Jurutera Elektrik Kompeten – RM200.00

No. Suruhanjaya Tenaga can't get you an Ir.

Only BEM and IEM could give you such title. And yes, P.Eng = Professional Engineer = Ir.

Suruhanjaya Tenaga, on the other hand, give competencies to those that are doing eletrical related jobs ie. chargeman etc. Even Ir.s at Suruhanjaya Tenaga get their titles from BEM/IEM.

Then how about jurutera elektrik kompeten examination and jurutera perkhidmatan elektrik kompoten examination at ST?

to register with BEM u need to grad from certain uni right? As my course is not recognized by them (chem eng tech at unikl)

u can take special exam from them in order to register with them or continue master in recognized university

Ohh so I still have a chance to get that title. Thanks for the info bro!

having the Ir. is the pre requisite

What about them?

You are confused, indeed.

We talking about Ir. in this thread, not some competencies exams provided by ST. Your question has nothing to do with the topic discussed, to say the least.
Ir. by far covered almost all types of engineering disciplines, not ST-related disciplines only.

My concern on electrical discipline

After clarification with my senior, IR is title for professional engineer issued by BEM/IEM , but for those who practicing as an electrical engineer in Malaysia, having IR title doesn't mean the person consider as competent person, as stipulated by malaysia electrical law, the person must pass the certain criteria(exam&professional interview) to meet by ST to become as an competent electrical engineer.

Ohh. You should mention that earlier.

ST only covers what's under its rules & regulations, and only certifies those who are related to these fields. Your senior is doing jobs that are related to ST, I suppose? Then no wonder his/ her answer and response regarding Ir. is revolving around ST.

There are many other electrical engineers, that don't need certification from ST, but still competent in their respected fields.

As i mentioned, under malaysia law, without competent engineer certification by ST, the person consider not competent and cant involved with electrical works such as installation, testing, commissioning or even enter the premises(restriction area-feeder pillar,electrical room,PMU), if he died because electrocution, the insurans company can use this excuse to reject the claim, and the signature not valid for the project involving high voltage.

If you want to talk about ST, and not about the whole electrical engineers, then be my guest.

God forbid someone else comes here and start to talk about DOSH, its competencies, what an engineer could & couldn't do without them, and what will happen if he dies doing his job without the competencies et cetera.

anybdy know how to get Ir title?

be Professional Engineer in BEM/IEM,
then will get Ir.

But maybe not accept by Suruhanjaya Tenaga.

question :

1)Jurutera Elektrik kompetent (JEK) from suruhanjaya tenaga acceptable by BEM/IEM ?

2) Professional Engineer = JEK ?

3) Degree that not recognized by BEM or MQA, only study Master degree to become graduated member and be Professional Engineer ?
(My case)

1) To be a JEK, you have to be P.E from BEM, U can't be JEK without P.E

2) JEK is higher than P.E, P.E is nothing, JEK is for those who work on field. Most of P.E doesn't have set experience and not technically sound.

3) Don't waste ur time, get to another uni.