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 The Suiting Thread V1, Suit/Tuxedo/Sportcoat/Blazer

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post Mar 2 2010, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 2 2010, 07:48 PM)
Gud!

BTW someone bought this here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...e=STRK:MEWNX:IT

and intends to bring it to ALT. Not me! Someone from the forum.
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Opppsss...and that would be ME...really appreciate for kotmj advise for the suit "THING". Still browsing through for full wool Navy colored for the business trips to oversea. Thanks to this thread, as I used to purchase off-the-rack suits from Calvin Klein, Hugo Bose and Valentino. Just realise that there is nothin can beatthe sillhoutte of the MTM suit, and plan to commisiion 2 pairs of suit from ALT. Thank again to all the sifus here especially kotmj.

By the way, I bought these horn buttons too >>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWNX:IT

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post Mar 2 2010, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 2 2010, 09:04 PM)
Nice buttons. Do you plan to get ermazine for the lining or is "normal" lining sufficient?
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Wow, that would be my next question here. Normally, how long is required for the jacket lining, and I read that the ermazine lining provides good ventilation.
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post Mar 2 2010, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 2 2010, 09:30 PM)
3 meters as well. I bought mine here:

http://www.theliningcompany.co.uk/catalog/...id=xdatidpqmoiv


Added on March 2, 2010, 9:32 pmI bought 4m because I wanted a waistcoat as well. You should get a navy 3-piece, i.e. with waistcoat.
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So many colors ...decision time...

A trip to ALT will remind me of my childhood exp again...during that time...all my clothes were MTM by "in-house" makcik tailors....TALK ABOUT A SWEET MEMORY... cry.gif

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post Mar 2 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 2 2010, 10:29 PM)
Grey suit, grey lining. Blue suit, blue lining. Or you can do it like Calvin: Blue suit, pink lining.
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pink lining....ouch....might be popular at the street of New York.....just kidding
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post Mar 8 2010, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 7 2010, 09:08 PM)
If you buy your own cloth you save yourself serious money.


Added on March 7, 2010, 9:12 pmBespoked 1U is possibly the most expensive tailor a person can go to in Malaysia. But if your parents are wading in cash...


Added on March 7, 2010, 10:13 pmBTW this is Thomas Mahon, a famous tailor, on his wedding day:

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What's the etiquette for wearing the jacket with a vest...the jacket should be unbuttoned as well.... rclxub.gif I believe it all goes to personal preference....
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post Mar 18 2010, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 2 2010, 07:48 PM)
Gud!

BTW someone bought this here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...e=STRK:MEWNX:IT

and intends to bring it to ALT. Not me! Someone from the forum.
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Oooppss..as an update...the first fitting session will be on this Saturday with ALT....fabric+the ermazine lining and horn buttons....kotmj...i hope u don mind as i gave the printed copy excerpted from this forum on your instruction for first and second fitting to AL.......
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post Mar 18 2010, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 18 2010, 09:55 PM)
did the old man creep you out?
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Not at all.....he was a bit skeptical at first ...i guess it might be because I was mentioning your name...and he might be expecting another "hard to satisfy" customer...lol
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post Mar 18 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 18 2010, 10:20 PM)
I think I might be his worst nightmare, LOL!

BTW you want me to come with you this Saturday? We can have a breakfast coffee at Cap Square before we go harass him.
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to be frank..i am noobs about this suit thing....really appreciate for the helping hand..and I will be there around 10/11 am...by the way ...u got PM....
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post Mar 20 2010, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 20 2010, 04:19 PM)
Since so many of you buy Dunhill mohair cloth, I am thinking of founding the Society Of Dunhill Original Mohair Enthusiasts (SODOME). Members may call themselves sodomists. Alternatively, sodomites. Anyone who has bought a length of Dunhill mohair cloth is automatically a member.

In other news, I have met silencer at ALT this afternoon. I was expecting the worst, that ALT would give him his house cut. But the basted suit was instead a very faithful rendition of my cut, and there was even horsehair in the lapels. There was a very definite waist suppression of the sort that nips in, a mild slant to the pockets, and the trousers are short (just touching the shoe). The back is sterile. Armholes are high, but still not as high as I would like them. Buttoning point is atypically low ... I wonder why. The Dunhill cloth is respectable but not exactly remarkable. The second fitting will be in a few days' time.

I'm pretty confident I needn't attend further fittings by anyone else. ALT really does know what to do if you tell him you want my cut.

edit: I think it will be a remarkable suit.
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Thanks to kotmj for your kindness for spending time on giving advise for further improvement of the fitting, and from the first impression, i could see that the suit is "THE ONE" as a result of a great thinker and a great tailor. It fits according to my body shape without any feel of restraining the body movement..and most importantly, it looks great.......would commission the second 3 pieces suit....in 3 WEEKS TIME..
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QUOTE(bloke1 @ Mar 20 2010, 09:01 PM)
So kotmj provides you special services without a fee?
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hahahaha..he was there to ensure that AL did a proper job for the suit cut ... the same as his previous suit...and AL did a great job....
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post Mar 22 2010, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(hypoxia @ Mar 22 2010, 12:09 AM)
Finally. Thanks a lot. It sure did help to many of us who are new to it. Any idea on the price range?
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To be frank, I have doubt that a good tailor is willing to do the alteration for the shoulder suit, as it will definitely ruin the whole cut structure, and most important thing is a GOOD tailor is more concern on the guality outcome of his works rather than the perks.....just my 2 cent....
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post Mar 30 2010, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 29 2010, 11:53 PM)
no. i wanted to buy some ermazine, and thought i'd throw in some buttons as well since postage is due anyway.
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Just choose under Tafetta Categories>>the ermazine viscose still there...told u about that high shipping charges..luckily i bought 2 different ermazine for 1 shipment..goinf to commission my second suit on this saturday....and at the same time, will be collecting the first suit.....just cant wait to c how the zegna cloth would look like...
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Mar 30 2010, 01:07 AM)
That's fast. I'm really tempted to come and see.
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U r always invited..and the 2nd commissioning of suit will be depending on the quality of that zegna cloth....that will be arriving tomorrow.....based on the usps tracking...
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post Mar 31 2010, 05:55 PM

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I would alsolike to know what is the length requirement for lining for a complete 2 pieces (3.2 metres) and 3 pieces (4 metres) suits.

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post Apr 7 2010, 03:06 AM

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The pic were taken in a hurry, just for reference for ALT suit.....kid mohair cloth with full lining emerzine and horn buttons.....

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post Apr 7 2010, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(bloke1 @ Apr 7 2010, 06:53 PM)
!!Lose the shirt!!
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Thanks for the honest comment ..and it was my fault for wearing that shirt as I was in a hurry for a flight to Aussie as most of the proper dress had been put in the luggage...should iron it first before taking the picture..and I wont throw it away as it is a Zegna dress shirt...

By the way...here is the new pic taken with a proper attire...

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post Apr 8 2010, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Apr 7 2010, 11:54 PM)
Silencer, I think you have a very well-made suit there, as you know yourself. From the pictures it's obvious the cloth drapes remarkably well for its weight. This is an 8 oz cloth, and if it were made of pure wool it would wear like pajamas. There would be sharp wrinkling and chronic creasing all over the place. Instead, your jacket drapes as if it were a 16 oz cloth. Here is the back of a jacket with such a heavy cloth by an accomplished tailor:

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Mohair really makes a big difference to the drape. It gives featherweight tropical cloths surprising firmness and shape. Also, it keeps this shape where wool sags and looses everything. My wool suit had to be repressed after several days in a hot car, but my kid mohair was as sharp as on Day 1.

There are only two issues that I can see: much less waisting than mine, and pretty lame quarters.

During the first fitting, I was under the impression it was more waisted than this. Maybe I saw it wrong, or maybe AL let it out a bit. Even on my second suit, he asked if he could let out the waist by 1". I said no. Did he ask you anything about making it less waisted on the second fitting? A strongly nipped waist is important to make the jacket interesting to look at. Without the waist, a jacket is shapeless and bland and bleh. Henry Poole agrees (ALT and HP even have the same type of notch shape):

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With regards the quarters: At the first fitting, the quarters were the most open I've seen AL cut. They were so open, in fact, that you may remember me staring and remarking about them to AL. But I did not ask him to change anything. Maybe he thought I disapproved, and happily changed it back to semi-closed ones since that's his house cut anyway. Ah well, you'll need to be more careful with the quarters in the future. You can console yourself with the fact that Anderson & Sheppard, too, cuts quarters like this.

Other than that, your suit is one-of-a-kind. You have a very well fitted jacket, with almost zero fitting flaws. The two issues I've addressed are a matter of taste, and are not technical problems with the fit. You have the coolest type of fabric and the breeziest lining around. Full-lining is the right choice because the cloth has a very open weave, and if it were half-lined, you'd be able to see a two-tone back due to a light-coloured shirt.
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Thanks kotmj.....yup, he keeps insisting me to make the waist a bit loose as it will be too tight if i am gaining weight. But, the bottom line is this suit has the cleanest back compared with my other 7 suits ...and behold with the comfort of his cut.......no restriction at all for any of my movements....kept wearing it even after yesterday's meeting while others had already taken out their jackets....

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post Apr 10 2010, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Apr 10 2010, 08:05 PM)
Where should I start? 3 iGents, one tailor. My linen jacket is well cut, but a little too much skirt flare. The breast pocket did not meet with AL's approval. I need to widen it. There is so little shoulder padding I am having padding anxiety myself. But there were so many people in the shop I couldn't properly concentrate on my jacket. He transferred some drape away from the sleeves to the back of the armscye (as per my instructions). Just the way it should be.

Silencer's waistcoat+jacket look fantastic. Trousers are like the previous, so no fitting. I am very keen on a waistcoat now. It is so different from those cheapo RTW ones. One look and you know it's bespoke. Really, the waistcoat looks good! I never thought waistcoats can look good.

Walnek was an observer today. He is tall and has a good frame. I think he can look like whoopee with the right silhouette.

ALT's sleeves alteration for silencer exceeded all my expectations. It's like it came from the Zegna factory. Far better than any I've seen. RM16 to shorten dress shirt sleeves.


Added on April 10, 2010, 8:26 pm
I've only fokked with you pubescent boys once about MBT3. Everything else is true! I won't do it again, I promise!
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Thanks to kotmj for his excellent advise and walnek for his personal opinion on my second suit. Had a great day spending times with both of u. Kotmj linen jacket looks fantastic when pair with jeans. Now,have to spend time looking for a right Zegna fabric for my 3rd alt suit or sportcoat.
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(malutapimau @ Apr 12 2010, 10:17 AM)
local tailors like add 5" for the armholes--they even add 5" for every measurements //and 1" for sleeve length
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post Apr 13 2010, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(xecton @ Apr 13 2010, 01:43 AM)
Hi guys,

I'll be getting a suit for my wedding dinner and have looked through the suits from G2000, Padini, Seed.
Tried on some of them and honestly, while I think they looked okay, I just felt that perhaps better suits can be found (been reading from page 1).
The material wasn't very impressive either.

So I thought why not get one tailored?
Went to the first tailor shop I found and asked for some info.
RM400 for a polyester suit and RM550 for a mix-wool suit. They take measurements, then 1 fitting and done.
I thought the price is not bad, cheaper than OTR.
Now the question is, if the tailor is not skilled, will the suit be worse than one OTR?

It's a long shot, but does anyone here know of a good tailor in Penang?
Oh... budget is kind of tight, so I can't afford to get those >RM1000
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The question is will it be a one-time or for long-term usage.

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