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post Jan 30 2009, 11:07 PM

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hey, i'm new here! i have a syrian,which is probably 2 momths old. recently i created a hamster forum. i thought it wud be great to ask you'll to join it. since singapore,uk and us have their own forum,why don't we have one?

the forum is categorised into syrians,dwarfs,health section and even a section to post pictures. there's barely any member there. so, why don't you join and make it active.
this forum ensure your questions with answers and gives EVERYONE chance to post their ideas. here's the link http://sharkhams.heavenforum.com/index.htm
view it and let me knw your feedback.
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post Jan 30 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(bruised @ Jan 30 2009, 11:23 PM)
Hi all,

Noob question coming up, recently one of my gf's robos died. We plan to get another one, but we're not sure of the sex of the remaining one. It won't let us hold it, so i only managed to get the photo below (apologies for the low quality). Would like to know if the hamster is a guy or gal. user posted image
Thanks!

p.s: Will be getting a same sex one and hopefully they won't fight...
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males normally have pink swellings at the back, since your ham doesn't seem to have one(or is it me blind? rolleyes.gif ) it must be HER.
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post Jan 31 2009, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(pikeydude @ Jan 31 2009, 01:13 AM)
Hi all.... I'm wondering, is there any lubricants that can help on the running wheels? It's really making a lot of noise. The effect is even worst when it is at night..
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try applying vegetable oil.


Added on January 31, 2009, 1:57 pmhey, i'm new here! i have a syrian,which is probably 2 momths old. recently i created a hamster forum. i thought it wud be great to ask you'll to join it. since singapore,uk and us have their own forum,why don't we have one?

the forum is categorised into syrians,dwarfs,health section and even a section to post pictures. there's barely any member there. so, why don't you join and make it active.
this forum ensure your questions with answers and gives EVERYONE chance to post their ideas. here's the link http://sharkhams.heavenforum.com/index.htm
view it and let me knw your feedback.


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post Feb 1 2009, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 31 2009, 08:55 PM)
You can use petroleum jelly (aka Vaseline) to lubricate the wheel.

Please do not use vegetable oil as it will get mold sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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sorry, but is vaseline hazardous?
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post Feb 1 2009, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(opalish_ice @ Feb 1 2009, 01:18 PM)
I usually use Chipsi bedding for my mice and hammie. I don't understand d language on d packaging, wat type of wood is it made of?

another question:
kaytee bedding is made from pine, but i read that pine bedding isn't good for hammies, but i heard that kaytee is a good brand. So is it okay to use it?
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no, no matter what brand is it pine must not be used. there are other beddings by kaytee too. so, why don't you try those. just to let you know i saw a thread in here that says kaytee food products has ETHOXYQUIN and i've seen an article about it before. although it is in small amount, it can be dangerous.





QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 31 2009, 08:55 PM)
You can use petroleum jelly (aka Vaseline) to lubricate the wheel.

Please do not use vegetable oil as it will get mold sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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can vaseline be dangerous?

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post Feb 1 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(sangels @ Feb 1 2009, 05:38 PM)
So far no reported incident of death of humans or small animals from using Petroleum jelly since they discovered it in 1859.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_jelly


Can you post the link to the article regarding this ETHOXYQUIN? It is best to post here to let us know more.
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here's the link on ETHOXYQUIN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethoxyquin

QUOTE(opalish_ice @ Feb 1 2009, 09:01 PM)
I wasn't planning to use Kaytee, I just wanted to know for curiousity's sake  whistling.gif
And I live in Ipoh, not much choice of bedding here. But if anybody knows where i can try other good bedding please tell me!
Also does anybody know what type of wood the Chipsi bedding is made of??
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well, you can use toilet roll a.k.a tissue paper.they are cheap,easy to get and not harmful. just a suggestion. btw, there are other kaytee beddings which are not wood based. or maybe you can order online.
hope these helped.


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post Feb 2 2009, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Feb 2 2009, 06:53 AM)
That's just a wikipedia site telling what is ETHOXYQUIN. Where is that article you mentioned earlier about Kaytee pet food and ETHOXYQUIN?
It only said:
Does this means all pet food? Then we have to boycott all pet food. Then what should we feed our pets with? shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Ethoxyquin is a chemical preservative – and possible carcinogenic – regulated by the FDA (U.S. Food and Drug Administration) as a pesticide. While ethoxyquin cannot be used in human foods, it continues to be used in many pet food brands. Ethoxyquin has been found to promote kidney carcinogenesis and significantly increase the incidence of stomach tumors and enhanced bladder carcinogesis, according to several studies, including a recent one by The Department of Pathology, Nagoya City University Medical School, Japan. http://www.aplus-flint-river-ranch.com/def...n.php?win=small
another link: http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Zoo/5650/ethoxy.html
http://www.preciouspets.org/petnblog/?p=145

to get more info why don't use search engines(yahoo,google, etc...).
although a small amount is used when we give those food( with E) it accumulates in the animal's body. plus, not all animal food i guess. i just refered to sluis's ingredients. it doesn't contain E. but it consist of Tocopherol which is safe.


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post Feb 2 2009, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Feb 2 2009, 02:59 PM)
I do know how to search for information. But earlier you said something about Kaytee and ethoxyquin. But you didn't get that website to support your fact. But in the end you gave us website telling us what ethoxyquin is. Anyone can easily find out what is ethoxyquin. I just want the website you mentioned about Kaytee and ethoxyquin. That's all.

I found it here in another forum:
http://www.hamsterhouse.com/forum/index.ph...g72927#msg72927

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oh, silly me. you can find it in all KAYTEE YOGURT DIPS food product ( read it in the ingredients.) i'm not sure about other KAYTEE FOODS. you got to check it out. btw, here's where i found it.

http://hamsterhideout.com/forum/index.php?...2&hl=ethoxyquin
here's the website i was talking about and here's where i knew about KAYTEE foodstuffs containing ethoxyquin for the first time.

here's a link for a yogurt dips ingredient
http://www.petco.com/product/8722/Kaytee-Y..._-26-_-name_cat

(you can see ethoxyquin there too)

have a nice day too.

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post Feb 3 2009, 11:45 AM

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do breeder celect brand manufacture recycled paper as bedding?

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post Feb 3 2009, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Feb 3 2009, 12:11 PM)
Hey, i realized something my WW always pee on my palm, hahah anything wrong?
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maybe she/he likes your hand very much and he/she finds it too comfortable. so, he/she pees on it. hehe! i;m not sure if its normal or abnormal. btw, it sounds cute!
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post Feb 3 2009, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 3 2009, 01:53 PM)
Actually someone else bought it for me during christmas @_@

How long hmm, Bean ate half of it before she kaputted. I'm more concerned about mold...
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if you kept it ina dry place and water never/didn't enter. i think it would be fine. perhaps, check the exp date too...but, maybe you would like to stick on the safe side.
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post Feb 3 2009, 10:23 PM

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just thought of sharing some info here.

I came across this anti-oxidant called ETHOXYQUIN. after doing some so-called research i came to conclusion that this thing can be potentially harmful. although basically a little amount is used it can still be dangerous as this thing accumulates in your pet's system. anything in excess can be lethal. ethoxyquin is basically an anti0oxdidant. it does just what an anti-oxidant do that is prevent spoilage or rancidification of food to increase the shelf life of food.

here are some useful links
http://www.aplus-flint-river-ranch.com/def...n.php?win=small
http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Zoo/5650/ethoxy.html
http://www.preciouspets.org/petnblog/?p=145

i've noticed that well known pet food such as Kaytee do contain Ethoxyquin.

although still research is being done, there are some individuals saying that ethoxyquin isn't harmful but they arent willing to give guarantee that it is COMPLETELY safe. there are still pet food companies illegally adding Ethoxyquin to food. so is it the time to prepare our own pet food which is more safe as it is quite difficult to trust food brands?
http://www.wellpet.org/nutrition/ethoxyquin2.htm

as for myself, i would like to be on the safe side that is avoiding as much as food that contain Ethoxyquin for my pets.
read the ingredients on food packs before purchasing if you're not willing to purchase Ethoxyquin contaminated food.

remember this thread is not meant to be offensive or else. this is all from my point of view after reading articles on the net.

btw, i've posted the same topic on the main PETS WONDERLAND page. i just thought that i should have one here too.


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post Feb 4 2009, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Feb 4 2009, 02:19 AM)
She was actually grooming herself and lost balance and fall but eventually she spotted the water bottle and start drinking from it while trying2 wake up
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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haha! that was a series of cute actions! well done, mushroom! rclxms.gif
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post Feb 4 2009, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(fendy87 @ Feb 4 2009, 05:15 PM)
its been one week me wtih bibo...but bibo seem not really frenly with me...it is hard to take him out of the cage...always runaway..like playing hide n seek
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perhaps, you should give him some time to settle down and get used to his new environment. then,try to win his his heart by giving him some treats. sunflower seeds,tofu, broccoli make good treats. i bought my syrian last month. i took at least a week and a half to let him settle down. then, it just took me a week to tame him.

now, he is such a mellow fellow! but he do get jumpy at times!

good luck to you and Bibo! rclxms.gif
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post Feb 9 2009, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Kinci @ Feb 8 2009, 07:51 PM)
May I know how do you treat wet tail disease? I remember it happen to me once before and my hammie died. I wish to keep hammie again, and hope such things dont repeat.
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just to let you know that hamsters get wet-tails due to over stress and also when they eat too much of vegetables. so, try feding them less vegs.


Added on February 9, 2009, 1:55 pm
QUOTE(jovyn @ Feb 8 2009, 02:23 PM)
thx for the reply... last time conrn cob bedding...that all ok wor...
i also but ceramic mug for them..but the din sleep inside also...

ohya, do hamster like to stain thier wheel...my wheel get super dirty after day or 2...doh.gif
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they'll sleep wherever they feel comfortable and secure....so, no worries lorr...haha1 my hamster is such A MESSY BOY TOO...he used to stain his wheel before...but not anymore...but, i dun think it has got anything to do with his health. smile.gif

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post Feb 10 2009, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(hiroko_jiayi @ Feb 9 2009, 05:14 PM)
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Need some help here. I realized that one of my hamster's teeth is too long. he still eating well.
But he cant close his mouth...
last time i did give him the chewing wood. But he didn't really use it.
Am i really need to cut off his teeth by using nail cutter?
i didn't know how to do it and don dare to do it also.... >.<

my another hamster died without any reason last 3 weeks.
but she died peacefully with her usual sleeping posture.
but the her teeth is showing outside.
can i know how many days can hamster survive without water? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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try giving your hamster dog biscuits(without onion and garlic)...it helps.
hamsters these days can survivve without water in a very short period of time....they need them almost everyday as they are very active running and etc...


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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Feb 10 2009, 10:25 AM)
can i use reptiles sand as bedding for them???
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although hamsters do love sand to roll around and clean themselves, having sand as a bedding isn't a good idea....there are wide range of choice of beddings in the market such as Breeders Celect, Carefresh, Kaytee and also paper towels. so, why don't you try them. just avoid anything that has Cedar or Pine.

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post Feb 10 2009, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(dinie90 @ Feb 10 2009, 09:55 PM)
hai, do i need to buy book hamster for dummies?coz i want to take a good care.
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you can if you want to. but, in my opinion joining hamster forums such as LYN and other overseas based forum will be good as there are many experienced hamster owners.
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post Feb 13 2009, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(speedhunter @ Feb 12 2009, 07:33 PM)
Hi..i'm new here..need some advice..when cleaning the cage, where to put the hamster? last week when i put them in a jar, they were really scared, try to climb the jar, throw out all the food they keep in their mouth and their body get wet, maybe they were pissing each other, huhu, and poo all over the jar. hope can get answer from u all, thx
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you can always place your hamsters in hamster ball(one in each) when you're cleaning their cage. or, perhaps you can create your own playpen and place your hamsters in the playpen, so, they can just move around and they will be stress-free.
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post Feb 13 2009, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Hou_JaI @ Feb 13 2009, 12:11 PM)
hamster bites i dont like them sad.gif
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you have to train them before you can hold them so, you don't get bitten. it takes time for you to actually get to know them and hold them. they are actually very sweet and cute... smile.gif


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QUOTE(speedhunter @ Feb 12 2009, 07:33 PM)
Hi..i'm new here..need some advice..when cleaning the cage, where to put the hamster? last week when i put them in a jar, they were really scared, try to climb the jar, throw out all the food they keep in their mouth and their body get wet, maybe they were pissing each other, huhu, and poo all over the jar. hope can get answer from u all, thx
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and, yeah. i forgot to inform that if you're getting a hamster ball, then it has to be the perfect size too. depends on what hamster you're having.

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post Feb 14 2009, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(speedhunter @ Feb 13 2009, 11:33 PM)
i got 2, but donno if its a pair or not, dont know how to know. i kinda regret buying the ovo pad, not because its hard to clean, but where the water bottle is located. the water drop in the tube, creating a lopak, and my hamster always shit there, poo+water=dirty.. hope u all get what i mean.
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i'm sorry. but i'm not trying to be offensive here. but, habitrail cages especially OVO aren't the best cages. i think you saw it for yourself. they kinda have to lean on their back to drink water. plus, i think having two dwarfs in one OVO is bad idea.
perhaps, you should change your cage. go for a bin/tank cage instead. they are spacious and affordable. the OVO is just small and i'm sure your hamsters don't have enough space to Run around.
hope this helped.


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QUOTE(hiroko_jiayi @ Feb 14 2009, 12:39 AM)
i did

btw, my hamster teeth has grown too long. chewing biscuit no use for them.
can i use dog's chewing biscuit for them? cuz i think its more tastier to attract them ?
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yes, it is ok to use dog biscuits. make sure you check the ingredients. it shoudn't contain onion,garlic and ethoxyquin.

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