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naTTan
post Dec 16 2008, 04:50 PM

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Nih bukan kire mengumpul semua penganut utk memudahkan pencarian nak bash ker?
naTTan
post Dec 16 2008, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(fantagero @ Dec 16 2008, 04:52 PM)
elaborate more please
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Ntah takper lar. Ignore it then.

BTW reporting in.
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:31 AM

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Actually because the thread was started by blademaster i said considered this thread just to gather everyone and later on he will troll it. But whatever happen will happen i guess.

Anyhow, apa hukum dier kalau selipar yg dipakai pijak tahi anjing?
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 02:38 AM)
actually it is sertu..... i know u referring to sertu, just, u know.... dont want to confuse people
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Jap sertu tuh apa?
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 02:55 AM)
sertu itu adalah cara nak suci dari najis berat..... 1 bilasan air+tanah, 6 bilasan air mutlak

samak adalah cara nak sucikan kulit binatang dari daging dan darah, supaya bersih dan tahan lama
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Ok so dalam hal selipar tuh kena ker sertu kan? Apa hukum dier kalau kucing belaan saya kena jilat anjing?
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post Dec 17 2008, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 02:59 AM)
for me u have to sertu the cat la.... since u want to pet, cuddle it....
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Ok nih yg susah nak terima, takkan nak sertu kan kucing? Mcm tak logik, setiap kali i fikir pasal nih mcm tak bawa makna nak sertu kan kucing tuh. Sertu tuh utk membersihkan sesuatu yg telah diakatakan haram utk umat Islam pegang. Tapi kucing tak dimaksudkan, jadi kenapa nak sertu kan?
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post Dec 17 2008, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(Canon_Ixus @ Dec 17 2008, 03:04 AM)
Sebab bulu kuching ada najis?
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Yeah the problem with this concept is that, if i have a Chinese friend who eats pork and washes his hand normally, i would still have to sertu my hand after i shake hands with him?

My point here is the contention that it is considered najis on the cat, since the ruling was made to Muslims, not animals.

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post Dec 17 2008, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 03:08 AM)
sertu is, to clean ur self or object from "najis berat", that is anything from dog and swine...
but, if its a dry contact, like ur hand is dry, and the dog is dry, and u pet the dog, u dont have to sertu.....

but in ur cat case, the dog lick ur cat, of coz got saliva....
so from my opinion, is to clean ur cat the sertu way, or let the cat sit till the saliva is gone(vaporate).....
this is base on my opinion only, providing that maybe u want to held ur cat, and the saliva is still there, and got on ur hand, u dint notice. so x sah kalau ko sembahyang
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So kalau basuh biasa takley? Kalau biar kering ley terima, basuh biasa ley?
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post Dec 17 2008, 03:14 AM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Dec 17 2008, 03:11 AM)
kucing pun ada la caranya nak bersihkan dirinya, tidak perlu suh manusia nak tolong, dier pun reti nak cuci

tapi kalau tak yakin sgt, gi tolong mandikan kucing ko, tengok apa jadi
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Hmm tuh yg saya nak tahu, cuci biasa jer ley ker? Ker kena sertu kan?

Nak buat cerita begini hal nyer, apakah tujuan sertu? Adakah ianyer utk membersihkan anggota badan dan pakaian supaya dier ley diguna dlm solat, atau diharuskan sertu apa sahaja yg kena contact?
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post Dec 17 2008, 03:20 AM

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Then what is the point of this thread? Lagipun nak tahu gak pendapat org lain and apa yg dipelajari same2 sgt lar baguih.
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post Dec 17 2008, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 03:22 AM)
the money, if we dont see with our own eyes, than its ok.... we dont know where the money might travel during the transaction
najis here i mean swine and dog.... they r categorize as "najis berat".... not literally najis like poop
if i touch swine or dog, when both my hand and the dog or swine(the place that i touch to be specific), is dry, i dont have to sertu my hand.... but if both or just one side is wet, then i need to sertu my hand.....

and shit water is "najis sederhana", to clean it is using anything that can hilangkan the feel, colour and smell(u stisfy, confirm that its now clean)
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Problem is, I nak tahu apa hukum nyer kalau benda tuh benda yg takkan diguna dlm semayang? Kire hukum sertu tuh patut dipakai setiap kali sesuatu itu kena atau ianya khas utk benda yg akan diguna dlm solat sahaja?
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post Dec 17 2008, 01:16 PM

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Hmm tapi dgr ade ley amik wuduk lepas mandi wajib tuh.

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