smokey
seriously i got the tutorial la..im planning to do it on my car but insufficient time la..cny mar..where got time.

flying-liao
understand the behind scene y BLM increase price and savvy decrease and u will know y u shud choose BLM.aeroback version coz blm is using the same chassis body as savvy.imagine satria and putra will solve ur confusion.il never choose a savvy thou.haha.the design phailed me since the 1st day it announced.

heavencloud
apalah..u hurt my image also..true bar..aiyoo..die liaw..canot rebuild back my reputation liaw..

some owner reported tat prob,this amt seems overrule human intelligent sometimes,it change gear itself,refuse to accept order,stuck infront of traffic light leaving owner        until u turn off n restart.
tats y toby.c13......damn annoying to play with......HA HA Ha......

o....tat alligator....its nice to have 1 or 2 red roses between so many leaves.......sheeeeee...be amused watching!

NicJolin
din see u for a long time in our forum ler..

heavencloud
my housemate bringin it back from the campus hostel since the long vacation, i cant leave it at flat ikan there.break-ins are occuring in the area.but ar..my honda got power steering oil leakage and engine oil redirection issue, smoke coming out.so my friend stopped there to call me.im still in hometown.

heavencloud
woa!!!    proton already had lotus,add somemore  porsche......

proton can fly man !!! but beware of something fall from sky  

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Added on February 1, 2009, 7:30 pmar....SiuYi..
waiting to hear ur "behind scene" stories..

well,id say first round of negotiation didnt really succeed..

my dads argument was:
1)if i would get a job after i grad
2)whether id grad on time
3)whether he might be still working by then to pay for the first 2 years(my dad is working on contract and hes ends in april,might be extended another year but not confirmed)
4)

he said for the LMST or any other second hand..an rm8k down payment can be put aside for at least one year of monthly installments..that would settle one year already all safe and sound..compared to a new car,rm8k downpayment and by the next month,ull have to start paying the monthly amount already..he said he would be ok either way but asked me to think properly since it is a very big risk..
1)if my dad doesnt get the contract extension
2)whether id be able to survive paying on my own after i grad.. (im in my final year in my engineering degree)

maybe ill just have to settle for a wira..

@MR_alien
@heavencloud
sounds like a good idea..see how la,looks like my parents already 80% confirm not getting me a new saga..mum said its too big of a risk..'negotiations' when on for nearly an hour last night..disappointing but i guess i cant be too demanding..and like u mentioned about the economic situation..

@SiuYi
ill be going to the showroom later just to check for the prices and 'play' abit with the car.. (sad..)
i am fully aware of the above..my heart is 90% on the new saga since the LMST oso is a car with technologies from the 80s..if i were to choose a 2nd hand id rather have a wira for that price..i dont mind paying on my own once i get a job after i grad..the thing is getting past the first two years where my dad will be paying for me..but even for a second hand car,i will have to pay myself after the first 2 years..thats what i was thinking,with a degree i cud get a job and the new car would be more then half paid by then..

it all depends on my dad on whether he can afford the payment up till 2 years and whether i can get a job after that..my dad is 60 and is working on a contract..he let me decide on the car,about which one i want..but at the same time he lectured me about what if something happens to him and who was going to pay for me??and how if he doesnt get hios contract extended?what if by 2 years and i dont get a job??he has a point so like i said,i dont think i have a choice anymore...

heavencloud
hey, ur car reach?

oh..i thought it was a classic saga with a new 'casing'.. too bad the showroom was closed today for what reason i dont know..hari wilayah maybe..(is this a sign?) but no worries,ill try again tomorrow..its just in front of my house..(tempting?)
yup..no matter how i think,2nd hand isnt going to be a good idea..thinking about maintainence and all which i will be paying on my own after the first 2 years..

about waiting until i grad,i wish i could hang on until then..at the moment,my car is the only way for me to commute to class and back..no buses here and my friends can be really unreliable when it comes to attending classes..and my current car,the classic mini,has a breakdown frequency of 2-3 months..which is very stressful..my dad decided to get another car since the cost of maintainence is too high already..not worth it..repairs could cost approx RM1k everytime..so id say i have a 2-3 months 'window' to get another car before it breaks down again..ive been driving it for almost 2 years now..so situation is i will be getting a car..not of my choice..but will be paid by me after the first 2 years..sad huh..my mum sent me a message and said i didnt have to worry about a new car since my dad will help chip in when the time comes for me to get a new one..the thing is,id be around 25-28 by the time that happens and i cant be relying on my parents to help me anymore..it should be the other way round..my dad is quite well off,just that he 'trains' us to not easily get what we want since we were young..which is why i think there is room for discussions but the way he says 'no' without saying it does scare me..aiyoo..i want to grad fast!

heres a 'graph' i drew..comparing a saga and a 2nd hand car (using LMST price)

p/s:maybe i should start a new thread..really hijacking at the moment.. 

Man..does this mean my car something wrong? Bit worried now. But my mileage's juz 1300+, could it be that? Or unrelated at all?

u guys are so lucky and yet dare to ask from parents this and dat. all i had was a motorbike and only got a car after 3 years working.

my advise is in current uncertain times do not waste money on high interest rates. i know everyone wants the feeling of new car.

u mention of 7yr loan trust me i dun think its a good choice as u r tied down for 7 years....as for me my strategy is to pay off the car as soon as possible, take the shortest time period.

mind you i was working in PJ also. i finally bought myself a waja after that.

For your information, i'm drivin the new saga now. On the feb 5th, is my car's 1 year old birthday. some info about my car, the 1st month i got my car, i changed the iafm. then is ok for sometime. follow up with changing of power window switch on the driver's door. fortunately there's no problem about the power window. For all the following problems i dun remember the time i changed it anymore. In which the things that happen with my car are problem with gear oil leaking, drive shaft design faulty, trunk lamp doesn't light up, doors get detached when drivin (it doesn't open, but the place when it detects the door is close is detached, therefore the doors open warning light being light up), changin of a new gearbox and drive shaft in the end, after several attempts of repairing that brings no result to the gear oil leaking. By the way, i need to pay for the freaking gear oil everytime it finished leaking, as if that was my fault to cause it leaking. And i did pay for a oil seal which the SC suspect is the cause of leaking, again the whole tank of gear oil i have to pay again.

ok..i think the best thing to do is get a 2nd hand like some of you mentioned and start thinking of a new car only when im stable enough to pay the monthly installment...from the way u say it,i dont think a second hand LMST or wira can be that bad..

HaHaHa......he is using another way to give advise lah...  
btw aztechx,there is a chinese proverb saying  " killed b4 reporting "
if u wish to take the risk,pay a little $ to make booking 1st,i pay rm100 for
a savvy,don know wat is the min for blm lah, since it takes 1 to 2 months
to get delivery, plan ur time till its clear on ur dads contract extension.
be a bit patient,u stand upside on the nego,if thing change bad,u lost little
on booking fee.  

heavencloud
complain to najib.

ar....sorry if my advise is somekind of demon...dont do it at home!!
i juz ask my sa a couple of hrs b4 i post,they say needs 1 mth wait for blm,
as for my car, initially they said 2 weeks, by now almost 3 weeks already,the still have no idea
when can get the colour i want.....  
if needed urgently, probably members here can recommend a fast 1, but prepare for a
longer wait as commanly happen, can avoid getting angry ma....  

nazri86a
boot?my fren persona macam kereta normal aje.pull infront then "pak" come up liaw la..still got what?got absorber ar?

heavencloud
got.he is the coming PM mar.anything about Malaysia confirm got his bisness mar.haha.

guys do u have this vibrating dashboard and it sounds quite load when driving on bad road...?

erm..u mean wira better or LMST better?
well..to explain the situation..my heart is totally on the saga..but i dont think it seems like a possible option for me after my second round of discussion with my family..my dad said it is for me to decide,he would be ok but i guess i dont want to put the risk on my family like that..and u know what hurts most?

1)the saga showroom i pass by everyday on my way to class has 20+ (reducing by day) sagas parked nearby..
2)2 of my neighbors own the saga and park in direct view of my rooms window.. 
3)i registered at the BLM club forum already.. 

starting my therapy by not looking at saga pics anymore..but still ive posponed my showroom 'trip' to thursday..

p/s:i already feel guilty for going so far off topic in this thread..sorry 

Hi,

Interest to get 1 Saga BLM M-Line Manual, anyone know which dealer have the best deal & discount/free gift?

I from KL

 

as u have mentioned..."auntie" mah...lol
they are more suitable driving the real merc....not merc lookalike

if only 2 days and already got rust on the paint, should send back to proton

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Added on March 16, 2009, 7:17 am

depends, maybe that rm50 fuel not worth of rm50...when u last filled up? morning or midday? and also got some petrol station tipu

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Added on March 16, 2009, 7:30 am

yeah maybe becos the nature our car, it is quite tall..taller than waja..the suspension also for comfort...

wonder if put fullset of ultra racing bar..can reduce bodyroll or not?

Eve2211
drift?i think its more to "buang"...

heavencloud
where did the incident happened?

-storm-
how much u got those grounding cables?$$?DIY aje ar?i wanna pasang oso.

Proton Edar system really suck. The Saga BLM I order arrived on last Saturday 14/3, loan approved & d/p paid. Proton still not clear the car for transfer of ownership.
Sigh, Malaysia Boleh, Malaysia Proton Really Boleh!!!
Take 1 week just to prepare clearing doc. Don't understand to they really want to sell cars?
It can't get the car next week, I rather cancel the order and take back the down payment.

By the way I want to redeem the RM625 Gov. Subsidize also.

My new BLM Manual already 200km, from full tank, only use up 2 bar only. I'm aiming for 400km for a full tank. I rarely pick up (speed up) the car, let it slowly gain speed.

BTW, anyone know will it spoil the car if I let free gear at the slope?