yesterday, i went to honda showroom to look for the new honda city. wow! the car looks stylish and elegant. it uses 1.5 i-vtec engine which is same as jazz model. 120ps and 174 nm of torque is excellent enough for 1.5 litre. it also has 5-speed auto transmission which is first in its class. if we look at vios(current model), vvti engine only generate 109ps and 171nm of torque. what a weak engine! even suzuki swift has 110 ps. the situation become more worse whwn vios has only 4-speed auto which is same as proton waja cps gearbox!

however, i think the new city saves fuel more than vios as it is 5 speed automatic right? and when i read autocar magazine, new city only takes 9.8 seconds 0-100km/h..but my cousin say that his vios take 10.++ to reach 100km/h. this shows that i-vtec engine is more powerful than old vvti engine. the icing on the cake, if we look at the dimensions, all new city is more taller ang longer than vios

I you must book the new accord. as you can see accord has 156ps and 189 nm of torque. while camry only has 148ps and 190 nm of torque. besides, accord has 5 speed auto while camry still wearing 4 speed auto which is same as proton perdana. accord also equipped with shift hold control and it is very useful to overtake the car in front of you. accord uses double wishbone suspensions front and rear which is same as merc and ferrari which deliver more grips to the tires. on the other hand camry only wear mac pherson suspension which is same as the OLD PROTON WIRA! the icing on the cake, honda accord is far more bigger than camry and its has less ground clearance than camry which helps to provide more grips to take tight corners at high speed.

i have test drive the new city. yes, e spec has leather gear knob. i have touch it and scratch it. i can feel the leather. but when i scratch the s spec gear knob, it make krack sound whic proves that e spec has leather gear knob while s spec has plastic gear knob. there is a different you know..maybe you have make a wrong judgement about that.

i think asm(silver) is stylish because the car looks bigger in that colour. furthermore, city has black colour headlamp. so, the lamp can be seen clearly when the body is silver in colour. but, black colour looks more aggresive and provides more sporty elements.however, if you do not like to wash your car, better go for asm because dirty stains can be seen easily on the black especially after raining cats and dogs.

Just for your info.....

Why you should buy Honda Accord 2.0 instead of Toyota Camry 2.0.

1. Newly developed and environmental friendly 2.0 sohc engine which produce 156
ps and 189nm of torque (estimated added cost = RM5000.00) while camry still
using the old version engine (to cut cost) with 148ps and 190 nm of torque.

2. Newly developed highly efficient 5 speed automatic gearbox (estimated
added cost = RM5000.00). Camry still use the old version 4 speed automatic
gearbox (to cut cost). New honda city is already 5 speed.

3. Variable gear ratio steering system (VGR) to enhance low and high speed
steering control (estimated additional cost = RM1000.00). Camry still using
conventional steering system (to cut cost again).

4. SHIFT HOLD CONTROL to reduce unnecessary gear change during conering.

5. Double wishbone front and rear suspension for better grip during hard
cornering (estimated added cost = RM5000.00). Double wishbone suspension is
normally used by high performance and expensive car such as Mercedes,
Ferrari, new 7 series, Audi and many more. Camry still using Mac pherson strut
suspension (to cut cost) that normally used by low end car e.g our national car,
Nissan, Kia, Hyundai, Mazda etc.

6. Accord is more spacious, length 4945mm (Camry only 4825mm), width
1845mm (Camry only 1820mm), height 1475mm (Camry only 1470), longer
wheelbase 2800mm (Camry 2775mm) and lower ground clearence for better
stability 145mm (Camry 150mm).

7. Accord suspension is tuned for both comfort and handling while Camry
suspension is tuned for confort only (soft spring).

8. Accord 2.0 OTR price should be at least RM15,000.00 higher than the current
price if we consider the above additional cost above.

Think again......


This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 27 2008, 12:58 AM

just talk. thats all.

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Added on December 26, 2008, 10:53 pmjust to change topic. because clearly city is better than vios. nothing much to say about that.

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Added on December 26, 2008, 11:05 pmanyway, lets talk about city against vios. new city comes with 120ps and 174nm of torque. while vios with its vvti DOHC ONLY PROVIDES 109PS AND 171NM OF TORQUE. CITY HAS 5 SPEED AUTO WHICH SAVES MORE FUEL. vios only uses 4 speed auto( same as national car) City has shift hold control, 4 reverse sensor and USB PORT VIOS ONLY HAS 2 REVERSE SENSOR BUT NO USB PORT. CITY IS FAR MORE BIGGER THAN VIOS! CITY IS 95MM LONGER THAN VIOS, 15 MM WIDER THAN VIOS AND 10MM HIGHER THAN VIOS. THE ICING ON THE CAKE, CITY WEARS 16 INCH WHEEL WHILE VIOS ONLY WEARS 15 INCH WHEEL.

This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 26 2008, 11:05 PM

however 'DUGONG CAR' still has a dugong look. I wonder..why toyota always use animal as their icon. VIOS LOOKS LIKE DUGONG. ALTIS LOOKS LIKE CAT FISH. CAMRY LOOKS LIKE COW NOSE.

This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 27 2008, 01:16 AM

city less comfort? comfort is not a miracle thing la. toyota just uses soft springs, shock absobers and suspension bushing for toyota vios that all. anycar can do that. but honda does NOT want its car to be too comfort(lembut) as they want their car to be in moderate condition. (sporty and comfort(not so lembut like vios) ).i have test drive the car. CITY USES SINGLE OVERHEAD CAM. that means city saves more fuel. AND EVENTHOUGH IT USES SOHC, I-VTEC CAN STILL BEAT VVTI(DOCH) IN HORSEPOWER AND TORQUE.

This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 27 2008, 10:55 AM

PMM is a wonderful colour. but i want to book ALABASTER SILVER since it does not look "mudah kotor" especially after drizzling. it contrast with the colour of the front grille and headlamp too. blue is alright. different from other car on the road

This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 27 2008, 11:28 AM

which is value for money? city 1.5 s with modulo bodykit (RM89,730) or 1.5e (RM89,980) ?

BUT IF YOU READ AUTOCAR MAGAZINE NOVEMBER 2008, CAR SALES IN SINGAPORE FROM JANUARY TO SEPTEMBER 2008, HONDA IS NO. 1 (18,944), TOYOTA(INCLUDE LEXUS) NO.2 (18,757), MITSUBISHI NO. 3 (5568), NISSAN NO.4 (4697), MERC NO. 5 (3214), BMW NO. 6 (3091), MAZDA AND SUBARU EQUAL NO.7 (2618), SUZUKI NO. 8 (2612), HYUNDAI NO.9 (2546),

i think you right. i go for 1.5e silver colour.

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Added on December 27, 2008, 2:03 pmyeah, better get modulo kits at the market. and i want to customize my new city with xenon 6000k lights. looks more ferocious.

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Added on December 27, 2008, 2:06 pmi am not honda salesman. i am only an ordinary man.

This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 27 2008, 02:08 PM

ACCORD 2.0 vs MAZDA 6 2.0

1. Engine: accord-SOHC 156ps 189nm
mazda 6- DOHC 149ps 186nm
2. Transmission: accord- 5 speed auto with shift hold control
mazda 6- 5 speed Activematic
3. Suspension: accord- Double wishbone front and rear
mazda 6- Double wishbone front and rear
4. Dimensions: accord- length 4945mm
width 1845mm
height 1475mm
wheelbase 2800mm
mazda 6- length 4735mm
width 1795mm
height 1440mm
wheelbase 2725mm
5. Tires and wheels: accord-215/60 R16
mazda 6-205/60 R16
6. Steering: accord- hydraulic with variable gear ratio
mazda 6- electric power steering
7. Headlamps: accord- halogen
mazda 6- halogen
8. Auto on/off headlamps : accord- available
mazda 6- none
9. Front fog lamps : accord - available
mazda 6- none
10. Leather seats : accord- none(fabric)
mazda 6 - none(fabric)
11. Electric seats driver and passenger: accord- none
mazda 6 - none
12. Cruise control : accord- none
mazda 6 - none
13. Leather steering wheel: accord- none
mazda 6 - none
14. Audio and climate control in steering wheel : accord- audio only
mazda 6- none
15. Paddle shift: accord- none
mazda 6 - none
16. Leather gear knob: accord- none
mazda 6 - none
17. Auto and dual mode air conditioner : accord- available
mazda 6 - none
18. 6 CD changer audio: accord- available
mazda 6- 1 cd changer only
19. ABS and traction control: accord- ABS only
mazda 6- available
20. 6 speakers : accord- 6 speakers
mazda 6- 4 speakers only
21. Dual front airbags: accord- available
mazda 6- available
22. side curtain airbags: accord- none
mazda 6- none

the car has ultrasonic motion sensor. if you lock the car with opened window and someone enter your car through the window, alarm will activated. same like ACCORD.

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Added on December 28, 2008, 7:49 pmE spec vs S spec (exterior)

1. Halogen headlamps: E spec- available
S spec- available
2. Fog light: E spec- available
S spec- none
3. Door mirror with turning lights: E spec- available
S spec- none
4. Exhaust pipe finisher: E spec- available
S spec- none
5. Chrome door handle: E spec- available
S spec- available
6. Alloy wheels: E spec- 16"
S spec- 15"
7. 4 corner reverse sensor: E spec- available
S spec- available
8. Hood insulator: E spec- available
S spec- available
9. Rear micro atenna: E spec- available
S spec- available

This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 28 2008, 07:49 PM

i love ASM. the headlamps contrast with the body colour. sporty look.

silver makes the car looks bigger while black looks sporty. but many people here like PMM

This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 28 2008, 11:09 PM

anyone knows which grade has the highest booking? e spec or s spec?

i agree with that. many cars on the road are silver and black in colour.PMM is same as silverstone metallic colour right?

what type of colour does honda has for its original v-kool? i heard honda v-kool is blue in colour.

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Added on December 29, 2008, 12:41 ami wonder.why city does have sparkle gray pearl colour? it looks nice on accord.

This post has been edited by 931002: Dec 29 2008, 12:41 AM