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post Dec 10 2008, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(navigator @ Dec 10 2008, 08:02 PM)
Please....stop your fanboy quote in xbox thread. doh.gif

and I disagree with you that PS3 got better games & graphic compared to xbox360.

xbox360 got more game & best online solution. while comparable, if not better.

Wii got better graphic? please la~! doh.gif
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Seems like someone sarcasm detector is broken.
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post Dec 10 2008, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Dec 10 2008, 08:30 PM)
jasper unit can cure the RROD? really or not?
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Not at all. 3RRoD is a general error for xbox360. it won't run away....

But the occurance rate will be reduced "theoratically". whistling.gif
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post Dec 10 2008, 08:50 PM

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gnome, looks like someone doesnt understand munky's sarcasm... laugh.gif doh.gif whistling.gif
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post Dec 10 2008, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(gnome @ Dec 10 2008, 08:36 PM)
Seems like someone sarcasm detector is broken.
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QUOTE(huss_wuss @ Dec 10 2008, 08:50 PM)
gnome, looks like someone doesnt understand munky's sarcasm... laugh.gif doh.gif whistling.gif
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aiks.....you all replied before my edit.....I got a new hidden quote there. doh.gif
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post Dec 10 2008, 09:35 PM

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We need to wait n c whether casper can make us all xbox comunity happy.
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post Dec 10 2008, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(navigator @ Dec 10 2008, 07:37 PM)
all electronic devices have relatively low tolerance to power fluctuations.....
As I said, poor GPU soldering and a lot of other issues including weak digital backbone architechture such as faulty RAM lead to 3RRoD....Simply blame on bad power source is not a good idea....

You HAVE to refer it here: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=484726
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I am talking about 3RRoD and not other 'DVD drive fail... etc. etc.' issues. That I probably won't want to figure out.

"Don't blame on power brick ?" Well... that may be the case. Most electronic appliances tolerates a certain level of voltage fluctuation. However, the Xbox 360's power brick does not do a great job. Thus, if the power outlet flutuates a lot and/or voltage regulator is not used - the power brick will get very hot and the voltage fluctuations will cause the GPU to overheat more than usual... resulting in the 3RROD.

It should not happen, but the 'power brick' is the concern here. Use a voltage regulator. Presto!

Err.. you might want to check the buzz that so happen (to my amazement) to occur here :
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.p...23998153&page=0
(Date was Nov 2005 !)

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Yes start spreading it.  It really works and will keep down the whining of all the people on this forum.  Also this is GREAT news because this means the power supplies are bad, not the console itself which means M$ can send out good power supplies later to replace these crap ones.





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post Dec 10 2008, 11:06 PM

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as i know that xbox360 ventilation very bad and the gpu ms used is the super hot chip ATI,so if there is some headroom for the GPU to breathe then the console will last longer,and the quality of the mobo is also an issue where it cant widthstand heat from the gpu,i know that the power supply does effect the 3rod issue also,recently i had a temporary power cut i mean the power cut was so fast where my devices x sempat nak off but the my 360 displayed 3rod,voltage regulator does help kinda pricey to buy la bro,and 1 more thing dont share with a power outlet with so many appliance attached to it.
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post Dec 11 2008, 06:52 AM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 10 2008, 09:45 PM)
I am talking about 3RRoD and not other 'DVD drive fail... etc. etc.' issues. That I probably won't want to figure out.

"Don't blame on power brick ?" Well... that may be the case. Most electronic appliances tolerates a certain level of voltage fluctuation. However, the Xbox 360's power brick does not do a great job. Thus, if the power outlet flutuates a lot and/or voltage regulator is not used - the power brick will get very hot and the voltage fluctuations will cause the GPU to overheat more than usual... resulting in the 3RROD.

It should not happen, but the 'power brick' is the concern here. Use a voltage regulator. Presto!

Err.. you might want to check the buzz that so happen (to my amazement) to occur here  :
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.p...23998153&page=0
(Date was Nov 2005 !)
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This is one of the symptoms that happened to be 3RRoD which can be identified in secondary error code. Did you tried them out to see if the secondary code is accurate or not????? doh.gif

one question M$ will always ask is "when your console 3RoL, what's the LED color on the power suppply unit?"

As I said, 3RRoD is a general error, too general to be told that the problem is on the power itself. You MUST need a secondary symptoms to further troubleshoot it and I'm notsaying your case is not true. I just want most of the ppl aware that THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CAUSE.

There're some evidence for broken soldering ball for GPU at thread founded by Tech2: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/727355

3RRoD error ca be also related to DVD drive. whistling.gif

I hope, you'll understand what I tried to pass on..... rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by navigator: Dec 11 2008, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE(navigator @ Dec 11 2008, 06:52 AM)
This is one of the symptoms that happened to be 3RRoD which can be identified in secondary error code. Did you tried them out to see if the secondary code is accurate or not????? doh.gif

one question M$ will always ask is "when your console 3RoL, what's the LED color on the power suppply unit?"

As I said, 3RRoD is a general error, too general to be told that the problem is on the power itself. You MUST need a secondary symptoms to further troubleshoot it and I'm notsaying your case is not true. I just want most of the ppl aware that THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CAUSE.

There're some evidence for broken soldering ball for GPU at thread founded by Tech2: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/727355

3RRoD error ca be also related to DVD drive. whistling.gif

I hope, you'll understand what I tried to pass on..... rolleyes.gif
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ur rite bro many types of fault in 3rod display.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 11 2008, 11:06 AM)
ur rite bro many types of fault in 3rod display.
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yeah, and some ppl did not realize it and blame on the only symptoms that they found by a hard way.... sweat.gif
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post Dec 11 2008, 08:13 PM

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Wow, I just got a 'permanent 3RRoD' which forced me to do what most do...

Just last night I tried my luck of using the 'old power outlet' - - the one that supposedly caused my red lights. Heck, I was forced to use the old power outlet - - the extension wires from another room of my house just made things messy... and trippy. sad.gif So I had no choice but to 'try' to use the old power outlet.

I plugged in, turned on.... and it worked. I played a game or two and it worked but then they started to crash. I was like "Of course." But turning it on and off just 'one last time' resulted in.... the 3RRoD - - permanent !

I wasn't too shocked. But it makes the whole "power outlet issue" a lot more real.

Pulling the extension wires and then trying my luck on the power outlet that worked, no luck. It was a permanent 3RRoD... Just days before I resolved to using that power outlet that made me play games for 7 hours straight !

A coincidence ? Just so happen it 3RRoD when I used the old power outlet ? hmm.gif







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post Dec 12 2008, 01:47 AM

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So, how many ppl with 3RROD actually solve their problem permenantly by switching to other power outlet?
By the way, What is Jasper Unit? How to identify it?
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post Dec 12 2008, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 11 2008, 08:13 PM)
Wow, I just got a 'permanent 3RRoD' which forced me to do what most do...

Just last night I tried my luck of using the 'old power outlet' - - the one that supposedly caused my red lights. Heck, I was forced to use the old power outlet - - the extension wires from another room of my house just made things messy... and trippy.  sad.gif  So I had no choice but to 'try' to use the old power outlet.

I plugged in, turned on.... and it worked. I played a game or two and it worked but then they started to crash. I was like "Of course." But turning it on and off just 'one last time' resulted in.... the 3RRoD - - permanent !

I wasn't too shocked. But it makes the whole "power outlet issue" a lot more real.

Pulling the extension wires and then trying my luck on the power outlet that worked, no luck. It was a permanent 3RRoD...  Just days before I resolved to using that power outlet that made me play games for 7 hours straight !

A coincidence ? Just so happen it 3RRoD when I used the old power outlet ?   hmm.gif
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Let me share mine.

Mine happened to be after a 2 days outstation trip.... When I'm about to enjoy my GoW2 after a long haul, I immediately see 3RRoD. then I just promptly switch off and sleep.

The next morning, W/O really moving the console around I switchied it on again, this time looks perfectly fine and I can play another 2 hrs. Then I realized my controller is out of juice then I just plug it into the console and power off so the system will charge the controller. to my surprise immediately the console off the 3RRoD appeared and my controller won't charge. Then I just promptly pack it up for shipment.

To me it definately does not looks like power.
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post Dec 12 2008, 11:04 AM

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sometimes bad connection of the powerbrick to the console also causes 3rod issue.
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post Dec 12 2008, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(navigator @ Dec 12 2008, 10:56 AM)
To me it definately does not looks like power.
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Let's just say every electronic device should last years. Even a non-branded DVD player lasts years... sad.gif

Bad design, from the power brick to the internal design... I heard about DVD drive failure rate on the Xbox 360 as well... and it surprised me

The Xbox community is praying and hoping Jasper is anti-RROD. It has the biggest chance -> power brick + GPU = changed since Falcon.

The whole 'power brick issue plug to another outlet' = = is one of the reasons... not THE reason. One of it.

Will Jasper solve the whole dreaded failure rate of the Xbox 360s ?
Only time will tell. But I strongly believe it will bring it to a significantly low figure.



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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Dec 12 2008, 11:34 AM)
Let's just say every electronic device should last years. Even a non-branded DVD player lasts years...  sad.gif

Bad design, from the power brick to the internal design... I heard about DVD drive failure rate on the Xbox 360 as well... and it surprised me

The Xbox community is praying and hoping Jasper is anti-RROD. It has the biggest chance -> power brick + GPU = changed since Falcon.

The whole 'power brick issue plug to another outlet' = = is one of the reasons... not THE reason. One of it.

Will Jasper solve the whole dreaded failure rate of the Xbox  360s ?
Only time will tell. But I strongly believe it will bring it to a significantly low figure.
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What I can say is--Don't give to much hope on Jasper......
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post Dec 12 2008, 01:53 PM

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My Xbox360 is one month older than yours. I remember I bought it before 2008 CHY so that my brother from Singapore can play Ace Combat 6 during CNY. It's a normal unit, not elite.
Why Microsoft make such a lousy console that not even last for a year, Darn!
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QUOTE(Star_knight79 @ Dec 12 2008, 01:53 PM)
My Xbox360 is one month older than yours. I remember I bought it before 2008 CHY so that my brother from Singapore can play Ace Combat 6 during CNY. It's a normal unit, not elite.
Why Microsoft make such a lousy console that not even last for a year, Darn!
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The worst decision they've made is rushed the design without extensive to meet deadlines.......

One of my game is also AC6. hahahaha~!

The hardware quality is lousy, but the game and it's juice is yummy. brows.gif
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MS make us buy xbox like pampers pakai buang dem u MS vmad.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 12 2008, 05:56 PM)
MS make us buy xbox like pampers pakai buang dem u MS  vmad.gif
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c'mon, it's just a gaming console....take your time to claim....no need to buy new one. rolleyes.gif

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