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 All Things Jasper (Xbox360), No Discussion on Modded Console please

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post Nov 30 2008, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Nov 29 2008, 03:19 PM)
Jasper - significantly low red ring death rate ?

I believe so.

Dun understand why Microsoft took.... more than 3 years to get it.
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we dont know yet jasper failure rate i nee to wait n c 1st .
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post Dec 3 2008, 08:12 PM

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any sellers on LYN already start selling jasper unit huh?
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post Dec 10 2008, 11:51 AM

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if jasper is out then the falcons are gonabe sold cheap mayb can consider a falcon hmm.gif
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post Dec 10 2008, 11:30 PM

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imagine at sg wang there will start printing 150watt stickers on the falcons powerbrick and sell at jasper price.huhuhuh this kinda info not stong enuf to spot a jasper need more hard proof to be a jasper
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post Dec 11 2008, 04:50 AM

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Theres 1 seller here at LYN(Quite a reputable shop,but im not saying who),claimed to me he has a jasper unit about 4 months back,he says the new 60gb version is jasper unit so i was quite interested and din have much info on jasper boards rolling out by end of this year,luckily i din buy.dem u mad.gif
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post Dec 11 2008, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 11 2008, 09:46 AM)
Actually if you can't open the box, you still can determine whether the unit is a Jasper or not. There's a small cutout hole which you can spot the barcode for the console. Just move the console to the right and look at the power ratings. 12.1Amps and you're good to go.

But for those that can open the box, I'm talking about people who are buying the pre-modded boxes. Yeah, just look at the connector. It's the most noticeable way to tell apart.

Anyway, Anandtech has a new article about Jasper with power consumption measurement. Not really a drastic reduction as compared with the transition of Zephyr to Falcon but still a 15 - 20W reduction during gaming is still good.

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472&p=5
However, one thing that got me wondering is on Page 1 of the article. The author writes about the plague of failing Nvidia GPUs (The notebook 8 series) and how it could be related to the Xenos as well. So, if this is correct to some extent, then maybe this is why people who did the GPU replacement still has the Red Rings Syndrome. It's not the connection to the motherboard that is the problem but in fact the problem lies with the GPU die to GPU Substrate connection.

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/gadget...sper/layers.jpg

Let's hope that MS swapped for the newer solders in Jasper yeah?
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all comes down to 1 issue cooling,and 1more thing that ms dont make quality mobos for their consoles.If u have ripped open ur 360 just see how close is the drive to the gpu,a pentium 100MHZ has better cooling than this ATI chip.Passive cooling vs direct cooling,im nt a ps3 fanboy but just c ps3 cooling the cpu and gpu is cooled by a connecting heatpipe and is connected to a massive heatsink+massive fan im sure ms is solving the heat issues with a smaller die but how much temp can they reduce with that much headrrom for the gpu to breathe.Anyway whatever said even the falcon is quite tough im sure jasper is tougher.Saving money for a jasper soon.
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post Dec 11 2008, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(navigator @ Dec 11 2008, 01:01 PM)
to me it seems like it's not the GPU heated up that caused the 3RRoD.

The 3RRoD is just identifed as General hardware error which can be related to everything in the system....

What I'm going to discuss about is the broken GPU soldering...

As we know PC's GPU will also become very hot when fully loaded and sometimes up to 95C and they never seems cooked....or AFAIK they're not.....

For me it looks like somehow the material they used, be it circuit board, GPU casing or the soldering itself is not heat tolerant.... and I'm don't understrand why the material is not changed till now..... PS3 or Wii will also overheat but they never suffer from broken solder joint.......

So, basically reducing the thermal junction problem between GPU/CPU core casing and mainboard seems more promising to eliminate the broken soldering problem....

How? haha, conclusion back to square....use a better heat solution OR A/C blast which might risk condensation to suck as much heat as possible from the cores.....you cannot dissipate heat on mainboard as quick as the CPU/GPU core even with a very good heatsink

This is why M$ will never solve the problem unless they change the material used OR design a core with no excessive heat dissipation....something like Transmeta Crusoe processor or Intel Atom processor
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lets hope for the best jasper is our only hope for now la
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post Dec 12 2008, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Dec 12 2008, 10:15 AM)
Guess what? My friend still has a surviving Xenon, bought from you (along with me and another friend, both of us 3ROD already) way back in Dec 2006. Not even signs of 3ROD. But he rarely plays the console, even when he does it'd only be about 1 hour max.
Oh and he's still using the default dashboard.  sweat.gif
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wah ur xenon really surviving that long im amazed for me playing for 1hour max i canot la i need at least 6-8hours of pleasurable gaming heheheh icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 12 2008, 05:54 PM

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cant wait for jasper redi any 1 here in LYN been hunting for jasper redi?
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post Dec 23 2008, 10:13 PM

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jasper next year huhuhu must save money to get 1.Jasper here i come
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post Dec 26 2008, 06:25 PM

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will jasper really solve the 3rod issue? coz the air flow in the console still remains the same very cramped up,whether its a 65nm gpu or a 55nm gpu heat is still there.hope ms really done their homework well.
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post Dec 30 2008, 07:30 PM

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but nelson already open a console wat so confirmed jasper.
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post Jan 3 2009, 02:14 AM

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i also got a jasper frm benard
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post Jan 4 2009, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jan 4 2009, 02:47 PM)
Yo... is that the Arcade one? Without the hard disk?
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yes arcade unit dont have hard drive.
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post Jan 4 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(gajah91 @ Jan 4 2009, 03:32 PM)
wat is the use of hard drive?
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for ur save games,download content,and ur gamer profile.
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post Jan 4 2009, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Jan 4 2009, 08:27 PM)
lol i used a 160Gb and made a 120Gb xbox hard disk tongue.gif
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wil that risk getting ur console banned by modding to a different hard drive.
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post Jan 10 2009, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(pakcikkantin @ Jan 10 2009, 01:18 AM)
When this jasper is coming SERIOUSLY to the world, i don't see any announcement from Microsoft
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As i read that MS will nt announce Jasper's coming they will just roll out the product for sale,Btw Jasper is out redi bro.
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post Jan 11 2009, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(pakcikkantin @ Jan 10 2009, 10:26 PM)
I see no shoppers talking about this thing ....  icon_question.gif
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everybody bz playing with their jasper nobody bother 2 post hehehe.
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post Jan 13 2009, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Jan 13 2009, 08:18 PM)
i dun get it...y u leave it on when urr not using it?
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download games la bro our tmnut so slow we have to leave our machines on long hours to complete the downloads.
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