For those who wanna trash their 3ROD xbox and switch to PS3, think twice. New xbox motherboard comes to solve hardware failure problem! I found this news in Joystick.com, just wanna share with newbie and whoever wanna buy a new 360.

The original Xbox 360 motherboard is called the Xenon with both a 90 nm CPU and 90 nm GPU, there has been system cooling revisions to it. Next was Zephyr motherboard with HDMI that was introduced with the Xbox 360 Elite and and some had newer "heat pumps". Currently on the market is Falcon with a cooler 65 nm CPU but still the same hot GPU as the Xenon.

What is JASPER?

It's well known that the next Xbox 360 motherboard is going to be Jasper and it going to have both a 65 nm CPU and a 65 nm GPU. Jasper is going to be a major advancement in reliability since it is going to run much quieter than previous Xbox 360 systems. Jasper's reliability is in part to the fact that there is no place on the motherboard that is going to be running as hot or as much power as previous Xbox 360 systems, also it might run a lot quieter since it will not need as much power. When Microsoft hired IBM and ATI to provide the original Xbox 360 CPU and GPU Microsoft put it in the contract so that the Xbox team will own the technology for the chips and can make subsequent reduced cost revisions to the chips. The Xbox one had leased technology from Intel and Nvidia and that is one of the main reasons for the change in CPU and GPU venders. Jasper is very real and they are testing prototypes right now. Word from Redmond is that progress on Jasper is going well and on schedule and you can expect it fall of 2008 (Microsoft tested it on 22nd August, 2008 and ready to ship some time in September).

What is OPUS?

The Opus project is a "Falcon" generation motherboard designed to fit in a Xenon case. You can expect an 90 nm GPU but a 65 nm CPU. Opus solves a major hardware recycling and inventory problem since Microsoft currently has millions of used Xenon cases from RRODed dead systems and this lets them use most of the good parts from the millions of dead Xenons but with a newer tested more reliable motherboard.

There is no HDMI on Opus since the Xenon cases don't have openings for the port. Opus is a third generation Xbox 360 in the case of a first.

I would trust an Opus Xbox much more than a "zombie repaired" Xenon since you are getting a fresh motherboard. These will probably never be boxed and sold directly to the public in stores so the only way to get an Opus motherboard is to turn in a RRODed dead Xenon in late 2008 and you might get one returned. Opus is the "Zombie Xbox" killer. It's the recycle repair special and is the sort of repair and refurbished Xbox 360 that they should have had done in the first place.

What is VALHALLA?

At the heart of a Valhalla Xbox 360 is a combined 65nm CPU and 65nm GPU on a unified super chip. This also would only need one cooling system and be much quieter and hopefully more reliable than previous Xbox systems (if they include hardware JTAG testing reporting into the design).

It is really early in the design process but there are engineers at Microsoft working on it as you are reading this. Heck they are probably reading this since this is the first that you are going to hear about Opus and Valhalla.

You can probably expect a price cut for Valhalla since it is going to be a major cost reduction.

Valhalla might be the final Xbox 360 motherboard design but that all might depend of the future progress of the third generation Xbox team (the Xbox 720 or whatever they call it) and the overall market success of the Xbox 360 platform.

Microsoft has planned on near annual changes to the Xbox 360 motherboard generation designs.

First was the Xenon motherboard from 2005-06, then followed by the Zephyr motherboard 2006-2007, then the Falcon Motherboard 2007-now. Probably later on this year we will see the Jasper Motherboard 2008-2009. Then then comes Valhalla the year four motherboard in late 2009 or mid 2010.


*Valhalla is not the name of the motherboard but the name of the new combo CPU/GPU 65 nm super chip that will eventually go on a yet to be named motherboard. But for conversation purposes I am going to be calling it the Valhalla Xbox 360.






"Less power = less heat = less need for the 360 system fan to be running at max speed."
Also less chance of cooking the memory, the board and other stuff.[

so basicly we will need to wait until end of this gen to have 360 which immune to 3ROD

lol

Wow, you nailed it...

I'm using the newer, current gen Xbox360 (the one with the louder fan, lighter adapter etc) and it seems to be 3rod resilient thus far *fingers crossed*. Anybody know if it's only a matter of time before I kenna 3rod?

Depends on your luck. if you can pass for more then 1 year, then good for you.

'resilient' ? Microsoft themselves acknowledge the so called hardware failure but never admitted it was a 'flaw in the design'. I mean, the GPU literally gets super heated due to average ventilation, the use of 90nm technology and the fact that the disc drive is so close to it. Its cramed up. Poor ol GPU gets 'tortured' everytime you use the console. Not the GPU, but I heard its the 'solder' that holds the GPU that is of 'not good quality'... Last minute additions to the Xbox 360 so that it would get market share...

But look at how its turned out...
the Xbox 360 is and has always been (and will always be) the No.1 gaming console on the planet. And I love that for a fact.

words did fly around saying because of the solder leads, but i doubt thats even the reason. because once 3ROD start happening, MS should be changing the leads already, but still the 3ROD keep continuing on. definitely because of flaw in design that lead to overheat in GPU.

This post has been edited by xxboxx: Aug 28 2008, 01:50 AM

i made a deal with myself if my new xbox rrod then its ps3 haha.

ur rite...at least u already give the 360 a chance to shine , fair enough.

Amen to that, I love my X360, flaws and all

hi,


Can anyonne tell when is this new xbox will be released? Because I currently plan to buy new console, if new xbox is free from rrod, then I will go for this new xbox. If still have to wait for sometime, I may go for PS3.

Thanks.

Heh. Seems to me Microsoft is following the DELL methodology of quality control. not need to be stringent, when it breaks, just replace the parts. since its getting cheaper all the time.

Still, its nice to see that they still wanna make improvements to the model as they go down the line.

I bought a Falcon unit. thus far its got no problems but i play it maybe one or two days of the week and pack it back in the box every other day.

Was curious if anyone has stressed the machine far enough that it overheated? Any personal stories of Falcon RROD?

there is a few falcon unit hit by 3rrod...but just a few units only...very rare to hear falcon unit hit 3rod...well some of the gamers here already test it without turning off around 1 week , so far so good.

Thats good to hear. means M$ is at least halfway there.

is tis 3ROD only occur to the old model of xbox or its randomly happen? i was planning to buy an xbox end of this year. maybe after raya($$). but i dunno where to find a good stock of this console. and does the 3rod happen cuz of the modded console?

Eh? (Batman voice) "Some words you speak is of illegal nature. Why do you want to kill me?"

Kidding.

This 'so-called' hardware failure is to the design of the Xbox 360. No matter 'old' or 'new' model. BTW, Jasper, could be 'it'..
Microsoft, however, is committed to serve its gamers. A 3-year warranty should make them happy campers.

[Highlight in red] - Hardware failure is its best friend. Its a matter of time your console shakes hand with it.

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Xbox 360 rulz! And has always been....

Doesn't the no. 1 distinction belongs to Wii?

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Added on September 2, 2008, 12:35 pmPS3 got lens problem. So you're not safe either.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Sep 2 2008, 12:35 PM

The new set of Jasper should be shipped out to u.s major store by the time i replied you this message. It believes that Jasper will "reduce" 3ROD and i cant tell you the actual result as no one luckily found it yet. Since malaysia dun hav sole xbox distributor and only hav some unofficial fans-favorite-game-store like gamershideout, the nearer place you can find Jasper system by any luck will b at major game stores in Singapore. Check the manufactured date sticker in the back of console or on the top of the retail box. Any manufactured date passed September 2008 shud be Jasper model.

If you think twice to choose PS3, there are few hardcore PS3 members in another forum section can help you pointed out xbox disadvantages. Thank you

just some of ps3 , not all...if so replace the lens...should be no probs.

from my experience using xbox360 , so far 360 great console....never hit 3rrod before...its up2u which console u want..both great..

This post has been edited by GamersFamilia: Sep 2 2008, 02:40 PM