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funnyTONE
post Dec 7 2008, 01:43 PM

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Yea, I'm not holding my breath on this one too. I mean Sigourney Weaver is wayy old, and even if the story resumes her as a clone, the clone would still be old. The aliens is still ok and for me, I never get enough of them even if its a plethora of them on screen at one time. Alien Vs Predator was decent, but I do agree that its should be back to just Aliens. Personally, I hope they would go make Aliens 5 to be like Marines Vs Aliens in Aliens 2. And I don't wanna see another new version of Aliens...its just so uglly and fake! The original Aliens was pure freaky and awesomeness!
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post Jun 7 2012, 07:17 PM

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I think this movie should be taken just as it is. It does gives food for though for those who enjoy delving into the deep mysteries. I for one would give this a decent 4/5 for its plot, action, casts and potentials. Its not exactly epic in a sense that it shadows the previous Aliens installment. In fact, its almost a different story line in its own universe.

Yes, the way the movie presents itself, there seems to be a lot of loopholes. And some characters are easily killed off without any sense. I wished a more gruesome or even unforgettable death scene would be there since its suppose to be a scifi thriller. Ridley Scott is probably too weak stomach to do that anyways.

In all, I still enjoy the movie very much. It delivers the scare and the classic touch of Ridley Scott. CGI looks amazingbut sadly I gad to endure a terrible 35mm format at TGV. Thats RM14 for a terrible format, mang!
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post Jun 8 2012, 12:01 AM

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Well I don't mind watching this movie a second time round. I don't feel bored throughout the movie. Perhaps on my second viewing, I'll spend more time digesting each scene and filling in the gaps left by the editors. I honestly think two hours is never enough to tell the whole story in this one, or perhaps they'll include an hour long of extra footage in the bluray edition. Thats a smart way of keeping the franchise alive ain't it?

I gotta agree with some of you guys, though. The cuddles scene is my most memorable scene in the movie. One question though
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post Jun 8 2012, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jun 8 2012, 12:11 AM)
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Aliens Wikipedia
Ellen Ripley (Sigourney Weaver), the only survivor of the space freighter Nostromo, is rescued and revived after drifting for fifty-seven years in stasis. At an interview before a panel of executives from her employer, the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, her testimony regarding the Alien is met with extreme skepticism as she has no physical evidence. Ripley loses her space-flight license as a result of her "questionable judgment" and learns that LV-426, the planet where her crew first encountered the Alien eggs, is now home to a terraforming colony.


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Prometheus Wikipedia
In 2089, archaeologist couple Elizabeth Shaw and Charlie Holloway discover a star map among several unconnected ancient cultures. They interpret this as an invitation from humanity's forerunners: the "Engineers". Peter Weyland, the elderly founder of the Weyland Corporation, funds the creation of the scientific vessel Prometheus to follow the map to the distant moon LV-223.

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jun 8 2012, 11:04 AM)
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post Jun 8 2012, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jun 8 2012, 10:37 AM)
I like this film, but only because I'm a big sci-fi fan. But as a movie it was like being made by a film student who scored A in cinematography/design/visuals/spectacle but got an F on the screenwriting subject. Music ineffective and sometimes misplaced. Even editing was all sloppy, inconsistent pacing.  It could've been a classic. But it's not. Big ideas, big theme, big questions, but written very badly and with such laziness.. Plot holes, illogical character behaviors, convenient expositions, too plenty to list down. The problem has nothing to do with the movie's link to the original Alien. They failed the most basic rule of good film making - BAD, LAZY WRITING.

My rating:
As Sci-fi Geek: 8/10
As Movie Critic: 5/10
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Prometheus' cinema release has more potholes than the Malaysian road. That's why my hunch is that Ridley Scott's gonna provide those missing links with an hour-long of extra footage in the bluray release. drool.gif

The characters aren't exactly a letdown, 'cept for a few ones that I wished were given more scene time to portray a solid expedition team. From the looks of the progress, its as if all they needed was the Android. A botanist......a geologist?? They're just another meat to the story. Hell, I wouldn't care if they brought in a marine biologist or a space rocket scientist.
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post Jun 8 2012, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jun 8 2012, 07:15 PM)
The xenomorph very likely existed before the events in Prometheus. How else do you explain the carving/mural of a xenomorph on the wall? It's even in the trailer.
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Yes, forgetting the black goo, I think the xenomorphs are the true biological weapon. Judging from the previous Aliens franchise and AVP2, the xenomorphs are highly adaptable to different hosts and surroundings. They have spikes, fangs and sharp ends all over their bodies, and the acidic blood is a perfect defense mechanism for a killing machine. Only thing lacking is intelligence.

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post Jun 8 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Aeiou11 @ Jun 8 2012, 08:24 PM)
Do I need to watch all the other installments of the Alien franchise to grasp the plot of Prometheus better? Watched most of them but that was long time ago.
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NO need. Prometheus doesn't try to answer anything related to the Alien franchise. Its better you take it as a story in its own.
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post Jun 8 2012, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Aeiou11 @ Jun 8 2012, 08:34 PM)
I see. How about for someone who has zero exposure to the franchise?
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No problem there. Dare I say its a different story entirely, only connection it has with Alien franchise is that the story happens in the same universe. For a fair comparison, its like watching Iron Man and Captain America.
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post Jun 13 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jun 13 2012, 08:40 AM)
Clearly Prometheus is the latter.

I even read somewhere that Ridley approached making this with a sequel in mind. That explains why he got the writer of LOST I guess.
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Personally, I'm not really a fan of LOST series or its writers. Nevertheless, I do enjoy the exposure to different style of writers and directors. Prometheus is downright entertaining and sparks lots of discussions and debates. Eventually, these questions will irate more than pique our judgement one what actually happened. I'm sure fans and avid moviegoers such as I can be looking forward to the bluray edition@ Director's cut@ extended version or whatever spinoffs they can make money of. But lets just hope they don't answer those questions with more questions. This is what I felt from watching a few series of Lost. When the writer wrote Lost, they really meant for the viewers to get LOST in their thoughts.
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post Jul 3 2012, 01:42 PM

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Good read from all you guys. Really enjoyed your thoughts on this movie despite its almost running out of shows in the cinemas. I do agree on the anticipation of death part. Where in the old films, you hold on to your seats knowing the next victim is going to die. These days, its just "just die and get on with it lah". Yes, I never knew Ripley was going to be the hero in Alien. The outcome of that was totally what blew my mind. I just fall for movies where you have the unexpected character became the hero.

 

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