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Movies The ALIEN Movies Thread, Prometheus 2: PARADISE LOST (2017)

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post Apr 27 2017, 10:48 AM

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A pretty cool lead in to the movie. The con...is Shaw the MacGuffin of the movie???
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post May 10 2017, 07:58 PM

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Prometheus asked us to accept the new direction of future Alien movies is the engineer and their plan to play god or creator...whatever you want to call it.

Covenant again shift the focus to something else. If you are holding your breath for a resolution to the engineer story that was established before, you will be sorely disappointed.

While bits you like about the first two Alien movies managed to come through in the second half of Covenant..it clashes with the execution of progressing what came before.

Strong visual with reasonable gore and thrills but ultimately still does not give you a fuller picture. It's like playing Dark Souls game, you know your mission is to kill all those terrifying interesting bosses in that amazing rich world but you don't necessarily know the reason for doing it. You are only given just enough cryptic information about what is at stake. It can be infuriating without knowing the full story instead constantly being greeted with awesome bosses that rich in design with nuanced backstory that the game maker who refuse to connect the dots for you.

There are solid performances from the ensemble cast. Fassbender (that "twin" acting very awesome), Waterston and I want to see Danny McBride in taking more serious role...he is very good.

So manage your expectation going in and marginally better than Prometheus because of more activity going on but definitely won't blow your socks away. It's a cocktease without the full intercourse happenning.


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post May 12 2017, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ May 12 2017, 10:24 AM)
So the old man cave in because aliens "fan" was not happy with Prometheus
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The old man gives zero f about the fan because he got a big fat cheque under his name to cash out. He's been at it for decades and already build his legacy. First of all no one film director is there to listen to the fan except for the studio heads signing the cheques. If I'm getting a salary of USD 1 million or more, please let me know who do I need to blow to cash that.

Those studio exec are no idiot when comes to crunching numbers and their marketing machine is what drives the industry. You are talking people with Ivy League education that knows how to make obscene amounts of money. So don't flatter the importance of a fanboy able to influence their decision. biggrin.gif

Geeks and film buffs only a vocal minority factor that do nothing but garner excitement surrounding a movie. It's the silent majority that fuels the industry. Meaning the lame dads with disposable income to spare or young adults who have yet started a family. So don't think the nerd or fanboy is that important in the grander scheme of how a movie perform any better or not.

School ya! biggrin.gif
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post May 14 2017, 02:29 PM

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Dude if you want to be credible...please read from a legit source, not just click baity articles that floating like herpes. That article also missing this:
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Unlike some filmmakers, who push down a certain path regardless of fan reactions, Scott says that he does consider it, explaining that fans, while not the final say in what he includes, can be a "reflection of your doubts about something." "You realize, 'I was wrong' or 'I was right,” he said. "I think that's where it comes in. I think you're not sensible if you don't actually take [the fans' reaction] into account."
http://www.looper.com/64117/ridley-scott-m...m_campaign=clip

You also need to realize during a press junket, Q&A already been curated to a certain extent by the PR people and Studio. Whatever that's out in the wild already been approved by the necessary party mostly.

It's his decision to revisit the nostalgic hole. Succeeding or not that's a different story altogether.
Your assessment just a correlation and not a causation.

How does caving or not in to the fans caused the movie a bad product. How about having a better story and trying fresh ideas. At the end of it all, does the budget allow it or do they have the time to do it. Do the studio agree to bankroll it. Without them, there's simply no movie.

In case you are so oblivious to how marketing works...there's a thing that called post-mortem. Facts and figures assessment that to be quantified with focus group research and data from sales or any other means of performance index.

Chances are the studio came up with priorities and goals to meet. It's Ridley Scott job to meet those criteria and not just be answerable to fanboys.
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post Jun 1 2017, 08:31 AM

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To quote Keanu Reeves infamous line from matrix....Woah!!!!!
The best theory to date.smile.gif
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post Aug 16 2024, 10:25 AM

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Tonally Romulus is a return to the first movie. Glad it doesn't comes off as an interior carbon copy but unfortunately the ending jump the shark for me. Not a fan of how they incorporate plot points of "cosmic engineer" and repeating something from "Resurrection" again.

Big fan of the horror aspects and practical effects. Cailee Spaeny is a credible Ripley replacement and David Jonsson awesome as the new android. Not great as the first two but definitely better than the other sequels.

 

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