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 New uTorrent 1.9/2.0 client bypasses throttling, uTorrent 2.0 RC2 is out!

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post Dec 7 2008, 08:36 PM

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EMule block
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Soon this UTP will block soon.. 囧

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aMer
post Dec 7 2008, 10:01 PM

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how are they gonna throttle udp, this protocol doesnt have flag like tcp. tmnut really at lose this time.
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post Dec 7 2008, 10:45 PM

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Been using it since yesterday. I see no difference or maybe just a little in speed increment and i did all my port forwarding untweaked and tweaked settings. ANd those i am downloading has seeds over 10k.
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post Dec 8 2008, 01:27 AM

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can i do this on utorrent 1.8.1
found the same bt.transp_disposition thingy on 1.8.1 also..
or it only works on 1.9 alpha??
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post Dec 8 2008, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(aMer @ Dec 7 2008, 10:01 PM)
how are they gonna throttle udp, this protocol doesnt have flag like tcp. tmnut really at lose this time.
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That's what I've been wondering too. Like I said, I hope they don't inspect ALL UDP packets in order to achieve their means or even CS servers like the one in your siggy and my old avex ones are gonna suffer ):

QUOTE(tifosi @ Dec 7 2008, 10:45 PM)
Been using it since yesterday. I see no difference or maybe just a little in speed increment and i did all my port forwarding untweaked and tweaked settings. ANd those i am downloading has seeds over 10k.
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Ah man I'm sorry to hear that. Which area are you in? Over here the difference is highly noticeable. On non-uTP connections, not even 1-3KB/s speeds.. instant disconnection. My client cant even connect to more than 5-10 peers at once because all the connections are dropped. With uTP this isn't the case however, speed is unstable (most probably due to the nature of UDP) but its there.

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post Dec 8 2008, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(kenjixx @ Dec 8 2008, 01:27 AM)
can i do this on utorrent 1.8.1
found the same bt.transp_disposition thingy on 1.8.1 also..
or it only works on 1.9 alpha??
It works as in the transport protocols does change when you do that. But not fully functional or in some case not working at all. It seems like a ready function built-in previously to prep for the current alpha actually.

On this subject of "Don't kaypoh kaypoh about BT clients" no offense but I find it ridiculous. TM people are actually resourceful tards and by this I meant since day 1 when they adopted this bandwidth management strategy, obviously every single major BT client under the sun are included on that list by that specific throttling equipment manufacturer. They're not complete idiots you know...So it goes without saying that whatever it is that we can google out, they can too and possibly in some cases are a step ahead. This is an ongoing fight that all of us have to deal with but not against each otherlah.

Now about uTP:-
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


That last paragraph in the spoiler where it's bold are the most important. So what we have right now as uTP are actually introductory spec meant to test the waters. It's not for leeching per se and perceived as a method to properly optimize bandwidth both for users and ISP. I'm seeing actual positive results if you multi task this alpha with browsing and clearly it didn't negatively affect surfing. Of course the client will drop down substantially but now we'll have a far more efficient way for traffic. Even if it's just experimental at this stage, some things have to start somewhere.

Right now for alpha build 13582 and 13583, it's clearly stated that it's not for proper runs but testing only and I HIGHLY recommend that you lot heed the advice. Especially you hardcore leechers and those running seed boxes. Wanna know why? High CPU spikes, backfiring performance for some settings and double check the generated .log files after an hour's run. Try to run utilities such as ccleaner etc. It'll be a long wipe if you'd set multiple overwrites because it's 80mb+ per log minimum.

UDP based fallbacks are actually implemented 2 versions before already in Vuze Azureus (current beta and full 4.0.0.4 implements this more stable than µT's alpha IMO) and even Halite's current libtorrent 0.14 based snapshot.

P.S good mods:- I think it's a good idea to merge this to µT's thread?

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i dont think tm are that retarted only to look at lowyat for information to know such client exist.....unless utorrent dont release it...someone will find it and they will discuss it else where...it doesnt matter wether u discuss here or not
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post Dec 8 2008, 01:37 PM

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One problem for the alpha version, which is the upload speed is always maximum NO matter what value that being set as upload limit. If u use network monitoring software, u notice that the upload always at maximum even though utorrent's windows reports it lower.

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I suppose those w/out extensive know-how of networking lingo should just stay away? I've been using uT for a a long while now over others, but I should probably stick with a stable version eh.
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post Dec 11 2008, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(eq8all @ Dec 8 2008, 10:34 AM)
It works as in the transport protocols does change when you do that. But not fully functional or in some case not working at all. It seems like a ready function built-in previously to prep for the current alpha actually.

On this subject of "Don't kaypoh kaypoh about BT clients" no offense but I find it ridiculous. TM people are actually resourceful tards and by this I meant since day 1 when they adopted this bandwidth management strategy, obviously every single major BT client under the sun are included on that list by that specific throttling equipment manufacturer. They're not complete idiots you know...So it goes without saying that whatever it is that we can google out, they can too and possibly in some cases are a step ahead. This is an ongoing fight that all of us have to deal with but not against each otherlah.

Now about uTP:-
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


That last paragraph in the spoiler where it's bold are the most important. So what we have right now as uTP are actually introductory spec meant to test the waters. It's not for leeching per se and perceived as a method to properly optimize bandwidth both for users and ISP. I'm seeing actual positive results if you multi task this alpha with browsing and clearly it didn't negatively affect surfing. Of course the client will drop down substantially but now we'll have a far more efficient way for traffic. Even if it's just experimental at this stage, some things have to start somewhere.

Right now for alpha build 13582 and 13583, it's clearly stated that it's not for proper runs but testing only and I HIGHLY recommend that you lot heed the advice. Especially you hardcore leechers and those running seed boxes. Wanna know why? High CPU spikes, backfiring performance for some settings and double check the generated .log files after an hour's run. Try to run utilities such as ccleaner etc. It'll be a long wipe if you'd set multiple overwrites because it's 80mb+ per log minimum.

UDP based fallbacks are actually implemented 2 versions before already in Vuze Azureus (current beta and full 4.0.0.4 implements this more stable than µT's alpha IMO) and even Halite's current libtorrent 0.14 based snapshot.

P.S good mods:- I think it's a good idea to merge this to µT's thread?
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Wow, that is very informative and thank you very much for the warning!

After downloading a while, will my computer experience spikes and slow performance? If so, can it be fixed?


QUOTE(JohnLai @ Dec 8 2008, 01:37 PM)
One problem for the alpha version, which is the upload speed is always maximum NO matter what value that being set as upload limit. If u use network monitoring software, u notice that the upload always at maximum even though utorrent's windows reports it lower.
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Yes, I've noticed that too. I'm not sure if it's maximum but my upload speed is certainly always more than what is displayed in utorrent.
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post Dec 14 2008, 03:05 AM

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good stuff... im an uploader n certainly dis thing help alot.. b4 dis my upload was like 3kb/s-6kb/s

now its 20-30 kb/s

thx. (:
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QUOTE(flyguy @ Dec 14 2008, 03:05 AM)
good stuff... im an uploader n certainly dis thing help alot.. b4 dis my upload was like 3kb/s-6kb/s

now its 20-30 kb/s

thx. (:
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My upload was always 20-40kBps, TM loves P2P users in other countries so much they till they never throttle upload.
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WTA..

if i want to set torrent port..where need i set?i mean in router or torrent itself?

thank you
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post Dec 16 2008, 10:00 PM

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Man it work perfectly. biggrin.gif

The bad thing is that it can pass my router firewall lol. (all port blocked except web and Messsenger)
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post Dec 16 2008, 11:16 PM

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rizvanrp .......... Thanks for sharing ..... ignore those mother Fuc*ers ...... they are pretty stupid to think that tmnut spies on lowyat forum for BT technologies ...... thats y they are always at this level ,..... shallow ... .... rizvanrp u change this dull world into an exciting one ... keep up the good work ....
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post Dec 20 2008, 11:55 PM

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the speed seems not stable
something fast sometime slow
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post Dec 21 2008, 06:02 PM

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µTorrent 1.9 alpha 13885

This build is NOT suitable for general use.

New alpha! The main change is that uTP (UDP torrenting) is added and enabled by default. It also has real-time transfer rate control and latency minimization. This build will probably download slower than 1.8.1, particularly if the entire swarm is 1.8.1.

--- 2008-12-20: Version 1.9 (build 13885)
- Feature: NAT hole-punching (for uTP only)
- Feature: account for uTP overhead when net.calc_overhead is true
- Feature: Open URL in Browser for torrents
- Feature: Right click menu in RSS history
- Change: default net.calc_overhead to true
- Change: Red RSS icon for broken feeds
- Change: Bring back RSS icons for new and previously downloaded items
- Change: Use feed name as label to torrents downloaded via RSS
- Change: RSS dialog subscription wording
- Change: URL column in RSS history
- Change: Tweak RSS episode parser to better handle multi-episode feed items
- Fix: uTP compatibility with 1.8.1

Download here: http://download.utorrent.com/beta/utorrent...a-13885.upx.exe
For generating logs: http://download.utorrent.com/beta/utorrent...a-13886.upx.exe
Hot sauce: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=49813

Haven't got around to run this 1 yet but just in case if anyone's interested. Again be forewarned that this alpha build might accumulate substantial amounts of hdd space for logs.
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post Dec 21 2008, 06:10 PM

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post Dec 21 2008, 08:31 PM

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bad leecher can get good speed too i guess? tongue.gif
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post Dec 21 2008, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(aMer @ Dec 21 2008, 08:31 PM)
bad leecher can get good speed too i guess? tongue.gif
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i think yes

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