New Metal Gear Game: Coming Soon, "... a next metal gear is..."
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  Dec 5 2008, 11:09 PM, updated 18y ago
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Check it out from Konami Japan website now
 --> http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/mgst/?flyi...monster=kjp_eng Will update this when more is revealed soon  Click spoiler to see pics: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by firedauz: Dec 5 2008, 11:09 PM |
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Dec 5 2008, 11:14 PM
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You want it,you know it,you got it! |
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Dec 5 2008, 11:28 PM
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in b4...ah too late.
no no nooooooooooo....my ps3 fanboyism...nooooo~~ |
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Dec 5 2008, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(fazco85 @ Dec 5 2008, 11:28 PM) in b4...ah too late. Your avatar proves that you're not a PS3 fanboy. no no nooooooooooo....my ps3 fanboyism...nooooo~~   MGST = MGS Tactics perhaps? |
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Dec 5 2008, 11:39 PM
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Hmm,that sounds like a doable DS title.
MGS Tactics for the DS,a strategy game involving the touch screen? I like it! |
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Dec 5 2008, 11:39 PM
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Dec 5 2008, 11:41 PM
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That's for 360 speculations,you Michael Jackson avatar man
(just joking,you're cool  )So I'm guessing this is a title that will come probably for the DS or the 360. |
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Dec 5 2008, 11:42 PM
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hope there is something for psp too!
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Dec 6 2008, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(trogdor1oh1 @ Dec 5 2008, 11:41 PM) That's for 360 speculations,you Michael Jackson avatar man i liek kids, especially little boys. (just joking,you're cool )So I'm guessing this is a title that will come probably for the DS or the 360.  |
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Dec 6 2008, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE "... a next metal gear is..." not coming seriously though,it's very weird for a company like this to make a grammatical error(a huge one,at that) |
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Dec 6 2008, 02:11 AM
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mgs acid always use that kind of logo..
i think that must be it.  |
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Dec 6 2008, 06:36 AM
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Something to jog everyone's memory:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Dec 6 2008, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(msn83235502 @ Dec 6 2008, 02:11 AM) mgs acid always use that kind of logo.. yup.i think that must be it. my money is on MG Acid.   Or maybe Metal Gear Racing for f***'s sake?  Or it's a Metal Gear AC!D for the new DSi. This post has been edited by snipersnake: Dec 6 2008, 08:04 AM |
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Dec 6 2008, 08:59 AM
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It could be. Anything seems really possible now.
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Dec 6 2008, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 6 2008, 07:40 AM) yup. this one make's sense. kooll.. Or it's a Metal Gear AC!D for the new DSi. |
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Dec 6 2008, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Dec 5 2008, 11:09 PM)   Anyway, why is green?? This post has been edited by nakata101: Dec 6 2008, 11:40 AM |
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Dec 6 2008, 12:22 PM
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Green means the project is on?
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Dec 6 2008, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 6 2008, 12:22 PM) Green means the project is on? Green is Metal Gear Series 1,2,3,4 remake for x360...  the big rounded ON symbol made me thinks of asspork  i= 1st != last big rounded ON plus green color summore = asspork This post has been edited by myxery: Dec 6 2008, 12:43 PM |
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Dec 6 2008, 06:21 PM
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acid is green..lol
in most cartoon This post has been edited by earthdome: Dec 6 2008, 06:21 PM |
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Dec 6 2008, 10:45 PM
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Dec 7 2008, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE(trogdor1oh1 @ Dec 5 2008, 11:41 PM) That's for 360 speculations,you Michael Jackson avatar man Aaaoooowww!!...(just joking,you're cool )Anyway, I thought MGS4 was the last production from Hideo Kojima? It'll shock many to no end if this is the port of MGS4 for the 360! |
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Dec 7 2008, 05:04 AM
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QUOTE(LYNsucks @ Dec 7 2008, 03:53 AM) Aaaoooowww!!... Why shock many to no end ? Most of us, the PS3 owners already completed the game 6 months ago, move on.Anyway, I thought MGS4 was the last production from Hideo Kojima? It'll shock many to no end if this is the port of MGS4 for the 360! The title suggest A NEXT Metal Gear = NEW Game In The Making Don't get over excited by the green color. Green color means it is ON, Initiated, project already begins. Not necessary Xbox360 color. Wii got 2 i's and DSi got 1 "i". Therefore, the next metal gear game are heading to DSi and it is Metal Gear Ac!d which is ON Kojima will only announce their next BIG game at TGS next year. Badass game take years to develop. Kojima punked your medula oblongata BIG TIME LOL |
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Dec 7 2008, 10:13 AM
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yeah right....
we edi finish eternal sonata almost 1 year b4 available on ps3 fanboy This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 7 2008, 10:14 AM |
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Dec 7 2008, 12:49 PM
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I was like 100m from Hideo Kojima at TGS (while queuing up to play his MGS4)
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Dec 7 2008, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 7 2008, 10:13 AM) yeah right.... My friend asked me if i want to buy Eternal Sonata, i gave him the finger we edi finish eternal sonata almost 1 year b4 available on ps3 fanboy |
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Dec 7 2008, 03:24 PM
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ok,ok..no need to fight..
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Dec 7 2008, 04:11 PM
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hahahaha
not fight laaa just attempt to reduce the unknown MGS heat here |
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Dec 7 2008, 04:43 PM
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I just start to play MGS4 this few weeks...
still not finish yet ... why i'm late ?... cause my little brother just purchase ps3... if the next metal gear solid is on 360, PS3 will lost privillege / exclusivity... |
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Dec 7 2008, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 7 2008, 04:11 PM) hahahaha not fight laaa just attempt to reduce the unknown MGS heat here QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 7 2008, 10:13 AM) yeah right.... O' rly? But judging from your earlier post u attempt to do the opposite!! Yeah right, fanboy or whatever!we edi finish eternal sonata almost 1 year b4 available on ps3 fanboy [Sarcasm on] Yea right! Sony gimme a free PeeAssTree so I should become their fanboy!!! [Sarcasm off] Seriously I dont even own any 360's or PS3 to begin with, mind you. |
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Dec 7 2008, 10:53 PM
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do i quote yr reply..
just view my profile and see how much i type fanboy some of them were my frenz event they didnt had 360 or vice versa and they didnt take it seriuously coz only REAL FANBOY take it seriously.. er...u dun had ps3 and 360 want me gave it to u arr?? lol This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 7 2008, 10:54 PM |
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Dec 7 2008, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 7 2008, 10:53 PM) er...u dun had ps3 and 360 Ya, why not! want me gave it to u arr?? lol |
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Dec 8 2008, 07:10 AM
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Wow....
Right now,what in the right mind would make anyone want a PS3? Little Big Planet Metal Gear Solid 4 Everything else is coming over to the 360 already. I'm really sorry for you PS3 guys.Hey,at least you're not getting 3RROD or anything like that,right? It's like,the 360 has the great online play,but the PS3 has the stability. So there,the PS3 makes up for what the 360 has. |
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Dec 8 2008, 12:30 PM
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New Metal Gear doesn't mean new Metal Gear 'Game'!
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Dec 9 2008, 05:53 AM
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2 green sperm, Metal Gear Solid: The green twin Baby.
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Dec 9 2008, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 7 2008, 10:13 AM) yeah right.... betul ke ko dah habis main leenaz.... we edi finish eternal sonata almost 1 year b4 available on ps3 fanboy  .../me run away... lalalala |
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Dec 9 2008, 08:59 AM
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This Konami really sien one,
tell us the answer la! Anyway it could mean anything, that power on light is on my Wii, 360, even PS1. So basically Konami is hinting nothing. |
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Dec 9 2008, 10:15 AM
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it's d mgs for iphone....
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Dec 9 2008, 10:36 AM
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Dec 9 2008, 12:08 PM
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A new Metal Gear is....NOT COMING!!!
I bet they'll say that. |
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Dec 9 2008, 12:25 PM
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Maybe microsuck pays konami a hefty amount of money for a new MGS?? Who knows!!
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Dec 9 2008, 12:50 PM
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heheh funny la u all.. why need to spekulate... obviously kojima is making fun of u all..
kojima: bro i tell u one thing..... gamers are stupid ppl... kojima fren: i dont think so... if they are stupid how come can finish their game even some play till few time.. kojima: LOL.. they are really stupid one... dont belive me? see i release one pictah of 2 i's and one power symbol.. then see what happen... Kojima fren: waaaaahhhh true also wat u said... lol |
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Dec 9 2008, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(mambo @ Dec 9 2008, 12:50 PM) heheh funny la u all.. why need to spekulate... obviously kojima is making fun of u all.. oh c'mon guys, from the URL http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/mgst/?flyi...monster=kjp_engkojima: bro i tell u one thing..... gamers are stupid ppl... kojima fren: i dont think so... if they are stupid how come can finish their game even some play till few time.. kojima: LOL.. they are really stupid one... dont belive me? see i release one pictah of 2 i's and one power symbol.. then see what happen... Kojima fren: waaaaahhhh true also wat u said... lol we all know it's gonna be about Solid Snake battling the Flying Spaghetti Monster and saving the world from the clutches of DOOM. it will be EPIC. This post has been edited by jackhammer84: Dec 9 2008, 01:24 PM |
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Dec 10 2008, 02:34 PM
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new MGS would be a port version of MGS4 to X360 or a complete new prequel game that would be on the portable consoles.. thats my guess..
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Dec 10 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(jackhammer84 @ Dec 9 2008, 01:21 PM) oh c'mon guys, from the URL http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/mgst/?flyi...monster=kjp_eng Actually it's accessible even if you remove those.we all know it's gonna be about Solid Snake battling the Flying Spaghetti Monster and saving the world from the clutches of DOOM. it will be EPIC. http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/mgst/ I thought it was some sort of hoax url at first. Most probably someone copied the link directly from some forum. |
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Dec 10 2008, 03:44 PM
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I don't know bout you guys, but I'm on the hype its coming for DSi.
Which is region locked. Damn. |
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Dec 10 2008, 04:32 PM
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what is MGST btw.
Metal Gear Solid.. T? |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:47 AM
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nice Tekken 6 will be on XBX 360 too
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Dec 12 2008, 11:59 AM
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you guys should read gamespot (ie microsoft's propaganda gaming website)
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Dec 12 2008, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 11:59 AM) i'll lol to the floor is mgs4 got a remake for 360... is there any prob with 6 dvd??10 DVDs lawl! http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=702458 you guys should read gamespot (ie microsoft's propaganda gaming website) claiming its the 360 power symbol and the green color!  fanboy will get it even 100 pcs dvd.. |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 12 2008, 12:04 PM) is there any prob with 6 dvd?? play mgs4 and u will get wut i mean from the kojima pointers/ touches in game...fanboy will get it even 100 pcs dvd.. This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 12 2008, 12:07 PM |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:15 PM
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ive played it more than u know..
so wat the prob with 6 dvd after all?? act of fanboyan?? |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:16 PM
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I agree with leenaz. What's the prob with multiple dvds? if you can play it, why not?
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Dec 12 2008, 12:30 PM
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FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX sold millions and they were multi discs, too young to remember? First MGS was 2 discs, too fanboyan to remember?
If more discs sucks then MGS series was suck to begin with, no? |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 12 2008, 12:16 PM) I agree with leenaz. What's the prob with multiple dvds? if you can play it, why not? Kyo, i don't think multiple disc is a problem as well. But that is the last thing fanboys can use to ridicule a port to 360. RRoD was largely solved by Falcon & Jasper boards, what other thing can be used? Anyway... i think a MGS4 port to 360 is possible, it can let Konami print money immediately, look at the Japanese economy.... Konami must have starved of cash. A port to Wii, DS or PSP are less possible, they have to seriously altered the whole game structures, graphics, and controls, which required heck lot of time, hence cannot print money immediately.... no good no good, shareholders will get angry. Maybe a brand new side story for Wii, DS or PSP are possible. But still.... took time. No good no good. |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:33 PM
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Now we are talking!!!!! *grabs a caramel layered popcorn, sips Coke* |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:37 PM
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But it's true, when PS1 came out with multi disc games Sony said "look at the amount of data this game store" then all fanboys hail multi disc games "look, this game comes in 4 discs, even better than FFVII".
Couple years down the road Sony comes out with BD and say "ew, multi discs so inconvenient" and the fanboys hail "WOW, MGS4 fills 2 layers of BD, must be godly". |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:38 PM
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i really dun wan start a war
but it make me sick.. wat wrong with 6 dvd anyway... latest after nxe update..360 also can save and reboot game from hdd... just like ps3... |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 12 2008, 12:33 PM) Now we are talking!!!!! *grabs a caramel layered popcorn, sips Coke* |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:40 PM
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I don't mean it as well, just telling the truth
 But I still remember people complaining MGS comes in 2 discs only back in the days |
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Dec 12 2008, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 12 2008, 12:32 PM) Kyo, thing is,MGS4 is already so old.i don't think multiple disc is a problem as well. But that is the last thing fanboys can use to ridicule a port to 360. RRoD was largely solved by Falcon & Jasper boards, what other thing can be used? Anyway... i think a MGS4 port to 360 is possible, it can let Konami print money immediately, look at the Japanese economy.... Konami must have starved of cash. A port to Wii, DS or PSP are less possible, they have to seriously altered the whole game structures, graphics, and controls, which required heck lot of time, hence cannot print money immediately.... no good no good, shareholders will get angry. Maybe a brand new side story for Wii, DS or PSP are possible. But still.... took time. No good no good. would people still buy it? there are a few hardcore MGS fans who dont have a ps3,and only a 360,but will a few hundred be worth the trouble? -change some cut scenes -remove certain codec sequences -change product placements(not to mention,a few konami employees are really huge fans of apple) -alter the controls abit i'd rather see them make a new game rather than port an old one. bioshock was ported from 360 to ps3,and after all the fanboy hype/trash talking,i dont see many ps3 owners talking about it.(im not sure how many copies were actually sold,but considering the amount of trash talking that emerged prior to the release of the game,talk about the actual game is pretty much dead) the fanboys just want it on the system to say "HAH! i got it too!"  |
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Dec 12 2008, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Dec 12 2008, 12:57 PM) thing is,MGS4 is already so old. Make sense..... I agree...would people still buy it? there are a few hardcore MGS fans who dont have a ps3,and only a 360,but will a few hundred be worth the trouble? -change some cut scenes -remove certain codec sequences -change product placements(not to mention,a few konami employees are really huge fans of apple) -alter the controls abit i'd rather see them make a new game rather than port an old one. bioshock was ported from 360 to ps3,and after all the fanboy hype/trash talking,i dont see many ps3 owners talking about it.(im not sure how many copies were actually sold,but considering the amount of trash talking that emerged prior to the release of the game,talk about the actual game is pretty much dead) the fanboys just want it on the system to say "HAH! i got it too!" But a brand new MGS for 360/PS3/Whatever would seriously take times, look at how long it took MGS4 to develop for PS3. Could Konami even wait that long when they can cash in some money now? That is why I am "speculating" that Konami might just do a quick port to 360, get some cash and move on with new development. Much like Square & Capcom cash-printing remakes for Wii or DS, now even Nintendo is learning the arts with Pikmin & Mario Tennis. This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 12 2008, 01:09 PM |
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Dec 12 2008, 01:19 PM
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haha its not confirm that mgs4 is coming to other console... and i mean it says next mgs.. is it... there is "NEXT" there could be a new one or something that is not what they have release recently.. or it could be now kojima going to make altair and put him in mgs world.. hahaha for all i care they make it i enjoy it.. who care if its exclusive or not since it wont make me untung or rugi anything.. hahaha
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Dec 12 2008, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 12 2008, 12:15 PM) ive played it more than u know.. then u will know wut kojima thinks about the whole blueray into dvd issue...so wat the prob with 6 dvd after all?? act of fanboyan?? its in the game itself, mentioned via cutscene (octacon and snake)... besides the game have 5 main acts, a dvd could not even (if possible its barely) fit 1 act the game time is relatively short, only the cutscene is long (i've watch more cutscenes than actually playing the game in my first round through)... thus you would need to change the disc so often... throughout the game, most maps often link together without any loading time with the only major loading/instalation time between acts... Kojima already said it lots of time, there wont be a MGS4 on the 360 stressing on the capacity issue and yet xbot kept coming... seriously did u ACTUALLY PLAY IT or know the whole issue? even with microsoft sucessfully getting a blueray drive for the 360, it'll cost a bomb... this whole MGS to 360 port has been going on since mgs4 was announced and xbots nvr give up... you sound more like a xbot rather than me being a fanboy... a joke i always have with my fren when we are deciding a 360 or ps3: Please insert the cutscene 1 disc to view cutscene 1... (after the cutscene) please insert gameplay disc 1 to continue playing... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 12 2008, 02:04 PM |
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Dec 12 2008, 02:28 PM
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http://kotaku.com/5063447/konami-officiall...al-gear-solid-4
Konami PR mouthpiece Yoshitaka Arai told Morningstar: The worldwide demand for an Xbox 360 version (of MGS4) is quite high, and it is something we are currently looking in to. -------- Not sure this could help. I am not sure a cut-scene, or a map, can run up to 8 gig. But when Konami want money, these are all small technical issues they can solve. |
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Dec 12 2008, 03:27 PM
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six months is not old..... bioshock was out even longer before they announced the port right? the game still have value if konami wants to port it.
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Dec 12 2008, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 02:02 PM) then u will know wut kojima thinks about the whole blueray into dvd issue... Very OT:its in the game itself, mentioned via cutscene (octacon and snake)... besides the game have 5 main acts, a dvd could not even (if possible its barely) fit 1 act (1) the game time is relatively short, only the cutscene is long (i've watch more cutscenes than actually playing the game in my first round through)... thus you would need to change the disc so often... throughout the game, most maps often link together without any loading time with the only major loading/instalation time between acts...(2) Kojima already said it lots of time, there wont be a MGS4 on the 360 stressing on the capacity issue and yet xbot kept coming... seriously did u ACTUALLY PLAY IT or know the whole issue? even with microsoft sucessfully getting a blueray drive for the 360, it'll cost a bomb... this whole MGS to 360 port has been going on since mgs4 was announced and xbots nvr give up... you sound more like a xbot rather than me being a fanboy... a joke i always have with my fren when we are deciding a 360 or ps3: Please insert the cutscene 1 disc to view cutscene 1... (after the cutscene) please insert gameplay disc 1 to continue playing...(3) (1) How do you know? (2) I smoke much faster, in fact almost twice faster, than Snake during the load time. And I can change disc within seconds (3) You are not born to be a programmer, or either that a bad joker |
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Dec 12 2008, 03:36 PM
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multiple disc is certainly possible, even back in PSOne days we had it much worse..... anyone remember Fear Effect? A four-disc game with only roughly one-disc worth of gameplay, mutilple disc-swapping in the midst of one level!! Worse, if u die then sometimes you have to swap disc too before u can retry and wait hell-long for game to load. But i guess most sony fanboys got short term memory, so pls stop it with this multiple disc crap.... it doesn't make a game better or worse if it comes in mutilple discs. Fear Effect 1&2 was one heck of a game (for me) and i would still gladly swap disc in order to replay it now. |
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Dec 12 2008, 03:40 PM
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*munch!munch!*
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Dec 12 2008, 03:40 PM
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Very OT again: You don't hear fanboys screaming on the PS3's BC power anymore and poke on 360's emulation BC. Another short term memory loss
Anyway, enough with the war  I don't think a new MGS is coming to either console anyway |
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Dec 12 2008, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(why_79 @ Dec 12 2008, 03:36 PM) ^ Yeah bro, high five. One more short term memory example is the ori game.multiple disc is certainly possible, even back in PSOne days we had it much worse..... anyone remember Fear Effect? A four-disc game with only roughly one-disc worth of gameplay, mutilple disc-swapping in the midst of one level!! Worse, if u die then sometimes you have to swap disc too before u can retry and wait hell-long for game to load. But i guess most sony fanboys got short term memory, so pls stop it with this multiple disc crap.... it doesn't make a game better or worse if it comes in mutilple discs. Fear Effect 1&2 was one heck of a game (for me) and i would still gladly swap disc in order to replay it now. Like most of them purchased ori for their PS and PS2 before this |
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Dec 12 2008, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 12 2008, 03:40 PM) *munch!munch!* Kenyang already lor munch so long |
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Dec 12 2008, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 12 2008, 03:41 PM) Kenyang already lor munch so long its about time I get myself an NDSi. if the rumor is true (MGS for NDSi) uhhh!! kenot tahan! |
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Dec 12 2008, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 12 2008, 03:46 PM) its about time I get myself an NDSi. if the rumor is true (MGS for NDSi) uhhh!! kenot tahan! can convince your wife or not i know i'll have a hard time  |
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Dec 12 2008, 04:10 PM
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Back to MG discussion, didn't Kojima state that MGS4 will be his last MG participation?
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Dec 12 2008, 04:13 PM
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which brings to a point if this would be a new metal gear. Which would be great. Getting a little tired of Snake actually.
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Dec 12 2008, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 12 2008, 04:10 PM) Back to MG discussion, didn't Kojima state that MGS4 will be his last MG participation? Yup he did say that, but the series is a big cash cow for them. That means itsjust too lucrative for them to let go . |
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Dec 12 2008, 04:17 PM
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I wish he redo Snatcher and Policenauts instead of a new MG
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Dec 12 2008, 04:21 PM
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what do u think project S which he announced he was doing with suds51 is all about? hopefully it comes to the wii since it's point-and-click and hopefully it indeed does have something to do with snatchers. |
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Dec 12 2008, 04:22 PM
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hehehe... i almost forgot about that statement of kojima stoping his mgs series... could be new character... metal gear sperm...
about the multiple disc and disc changing i almost forgot that right now even if it come in 10 disc or even 15 disc i dont think it would be a problem... now xb360 also can install game in their hdd la.. ayooo.... might wanna call kojima to clear this hole thing up... any one got his cell no? |
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Dec 12 2008, 04:26 PM
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I can only hope he's doing a new digital novel like Snatcher and Policenauts, the latter I haven't played since never see English release
Actually on a Wii is even better, can point point everything (you know what I mean if you played before) |
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Dec 12 2008, 04:28 PM
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Dec 12 2008, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(mambo @ Dec 12 2008, 04:22 PM) hehehe... i almost forgot about that statement of kojima stoping his mgs series... could be new character... metal gear sperm... Go play your 3DO la! about the multiple disc and disc changing i almost forgot that right now even if it come in 10 disc or even 15 disc i dont think it would be a problem... now xb360 also can install game in their hdd la.. ayooo.... might wanna call kojima to clear this hole thing up... any one got his cell no? I got Shigeru number u want or not? 1-800-88-2525. LOL If i remember clearly the game " D no Shokutaku" on 3DO also come with 2 or 3 disc. Panzer Dragoon Saga on Saturn also come with multiple disc, RE4 on GC also come with 2 disc.... Since when it became a problem all of a sudden?  Or actually people "decided" to think it is a problem now. This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 12 2008, 04:29 PM |
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Dec 12 2008, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 12 2008, 04:29 PM) Go play your 3DO la! Gamers: Nah, it won't happen as it would not fit into a single DVD. I got Shigeru number u want or not? 1-800-88-2525. LOL If i remember clearly the game " D no Shokutaku" on 3DO also come with 2 or 3 disc. Panzer Dragoon Saga on Saturn also come with multiple disc, RE4 on GC also come with 2 disc.... Since when it became a problem all of a sudden? Or actually people "decided" to think it is a problem now.  Konami: Our initial projection shows that we could sell at least an additional 2 mill copies worldwide for porting it to 360. That is 120 mill in revenue. Just get it out FFS. And before ppl come in with the pirated copies crap, get this: Sales for the month of November in US CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR (360) 1.41 million CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR (PS3) 597K That is almost 1 mill copies more than PS3. I would think that MGS4 will sell more than COD. |
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Dec 12 2008, 05:19 PM
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personally, I think MGS4, should it come to 360, will be done by a different team, ala Silicon Knights The Twin Snakes.
And MGS4 was a BORING GAME, FULL OF CUTSCENES AND GARBAGE. |
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Dec 12 2008, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 12 2008, 05:19 PM) personally, I think MGS4, should it come to 360, will be done by a different team, ala Silicon Knights The Twin Snakes. Wow! That's shocking coming from you. *points at your nick*And MGS4 was a BORING GAME, FULL OF CUTSCENES AND GARBAGE. |
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Dec 12 2008, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Dec 12 2008, 05:38 PM) Wow! That's shocking coming from you. *points at your nick* I'm just as shock as you are  |
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Dec 12 2008, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 12 2008, 05:19 PM) personally, I think MGS4, should it come to 360, will be done by a different team, ala Silicon Knights The Twin Snakes. Hey, u now betray ur mgs ?? And MGS4 was a BORING GAME, FULL OF CUTSCENES AND GARBAGE. But MGO fun or not??? |
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Dec 12 2008, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Dec 12 2008, 05:38 PM) Wow! That's shocking coming from you. *points at your nick* QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 12 2008, 05:41 PM) I'm just as shock as you are this isnt the first time he has talked trash about the game  |
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Dec 12 2008, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 02:02 PM) then u will know wut kojima thinks about the whole blueray into dvd issue... and..its in the game itself, mentioned via cutscene (octacon and snake)... besides the game have 5 main acts, a dvd could not even (if possible its barely) fit 1 act the game time is relatively short, only the cutscene is long (i've watch more cutscenes than actually playing the game in my first round through)... thus you would need to change the disc so often... throughout the game, most maps often link together without any loading time with the only major loading/instalation time between acts... Kojima already said it lots of time, there wont be a MGS4 on the 360 stressing on the capacity issue and yet xbot kept coming... seriously did u ACTUALLY PLAY IT or know the whole issue? even with microsoft sucessfully getting a blueray drive for the 360, it'll cost a bomb... this whole MGS to 360 port has been going on since mgs4 was announced and xbots nvr give up... you sound more like a xbot rather than me being a fanboy... a joke i always have with my fren when we are deciding a 360 or ps3: Please insert the cutscene 1 disc to view cutscene 1... (after the cutscene) please insert gameplay disc 1 to continue playing... and the problem with keep on changing disc?? if i buy..i dont feel it annoying me at all... |
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Dec 12 2008, 08:14 PM
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it's weird...
you guys actually pray the new Metal Gear is a brand new storyline of Metal Gear or a 6 month old MGS4 port? for me, it's better the former one....let Kojima take advantage of all the power of 360(well..it seem everyone assume it's a 360 title) instead focusing doing a port. and drop the financial statistic...you're not getting rich by it anyways |
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Dec 12 2008, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(K-End @ Dec 12 2008, 08:14 PM) and drop the financial statistic...you're not getting rich by it anyways Yeah I know, but this is one reason for that game to be ported out to 360.Most ppl here has been using the multi disc arguement but developers only think in dollars and cents so I guess it s appropriate to use the financial reasoning for my arguement. BTW, if the CEO of Konami ordered them to port it, do you think they (the programmer) would even mention the multi disc problem? Solve it of we hire someone else who can. The world is currently in recession, but did you know that the US November sales figure for 2008 is much more than 2007. It shows that in some way this industry is recession proof. If Konami is smart, they would do the inevitable which is porting that game. Why? PS3 target audience is the same with 360 target audience. Gamers would line up in droves for days to get their hand on this game. Easiest USD 120 million turnover ever (Assuming sales of 2 million worldwide @ USD 59). |
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Dec 12 2008, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 12 2008, 08:37 PM) Yeah I know, but this is one reason for that game to be ported out to 360. a good point...but let's Konami worries about that.Most ppl here has been using the multi disc arguement but developers only think in dollars and cents so I guess it s appropriate to use the financial reasoning for my arguement. BTW, if the CEO of Konami ordered them to port it, do you think they (the programmer) would even mention the multi disc problem? Solve it of we hire someone else who can. The world is currently in recession, but did you know that the US November sales figure for 2008 is much more than 2007. It shows that in some way this industry is recession proof. If Konami is smart, they would do the inevitable which is porting that game. Why? PS3 target audience is the same with 360 target audience. Gamers would line up in droves for days to get their hand on this game. Easiest USD 120 million turnover ever (Assuming sales of 2 million worldwide @ USD 59). i just wish they create a new one..it's a shame if it's a port because im waiting for the next Masterpiece game from Kojima regardless of the platform |
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Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 12 2008, 08:06 PM) and.. so did u actually played the game as u claimed when you flamed others of fanboy-ism?and the problem with keep on changing disc?? if i buy..i dont feel it annoying me at all... i would not have problem if you are not flaming others of fanboy-ism jacking up stories jz to prove something... multidisc is about changing and the cost... serious gamers like many of us just wanna play the game and changing the disc would not matter... but if you acutally play mgs4, you would know how short is the gameplay (as snipersnake experienced) thus is it worth the trouble? espeically such little game time had trouble fitting into a blueray disc... mgs4 excel at the whole experience and changing disc from time to time is really ruining the experience... if konami is all about the money, the porting would not earn them that much... its been stated that developing a game on the ps3 is way dufferent compare to other console thus the porting would be hard... wut more after all the optimization done for the game... as for multiple dual layer disc, the price would be high for konami to make big $$$... and lets face it, most msia 360 owners do not buy much original game and imagine how much it would cost u jack sparrow for the mgs4 port... besides mgs2 was ported to xbox and the response was superbly good but the sales was not good at all... Kojima stated this before as well when ppl where asking for the 360 version in one of his interview and he was not happy with it at all about wut happened... once bitten, twice shy... i for one do not support mgs4 remake on 360 but rather a spinoff or an original game (more likely since the whole metal gear solid saga has ended)... i do not want another Last Remnant to spoil a masterpiece such as mgs4 itself... for those that would call me a ps3 fanboy, i had no trouble with ff13 or tekken6 going to the 360 as well since i am a gamer, who enjoy games on wutever console it may be in as long as i get to play it... i hate fanboys especially the WoW-clone meme trolls... as for another theory, it is possible for a metal gear ac!d on the ipod based on the hint above... and kojima produtions is pretty well off with apple (hint: mgs4 apple products) ps: the decision is for kojima productions to make, not konami... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 12 2008, 09:16 PM |
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Dec 12 2008, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM) ps: the decision is for kojima productions to make, not konami... depends.for some things,Konami make the call. example: Konami ID even Kojima hates the thing,but yet HAD to implement it  |
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Dec 12 2008, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 12 2008, 04:29 PM) Go play your 3DO la! hahahah... well said my fren.. but actually its not that we think its a problem as for me i just post my views for the sake of posting and keeping it hot while it last.. hahaha... multi disc is not a problem ... already masak with it since the old days already... hahahaand as i say b4 xb360 have that call install game to the disc.. eliminate the problem ready..I got Shigeru number u want or not? 1-800-88-2525. LOL If i remember clearly the game " D no Shokutaku" on 3DO also come with 2 or 3 disc. Panzer Dragoon Saga on Saturn also come with multiple disc, RE4 on GC also come with 2 disc.... Since when it became a problem all of a sudden? Or actually people "decided" to think it is a problem now. QUOTE(K-End @ Dec 12 2008, 08:14 PM) it's weird... well bro they do forking money and we do benefit from it... hehehe how? ok they got tons of money return then they can put more money into development of new game... so less money it would be hard for them to finance new titile thus the end product would be some sort not so good...you guys actually pray the new Metal Gear is a brand new storyline of Metal Gear or a 6 month old MGS4 port? for me, it's better the former one....let Kojima take advantage of all the power of 360(well..it seem everyone assume it's a 360 title) instead focusing doing a port. and drop the financial statistic...you're not getting rich by it anyways |
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Dec 12 2008, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM) so did u actually played the game as u claimed when you flamed others of fanboy-ism? On the reason why MGS4 would not be ported to 360,i would not have problem if you are not flaming others of fanboy-ism jacking up stories jz to prove something... multidisc is about changing and the cost... serious gamers like many of us just wanna play the game and changing the disc would not matter... but if you acutally play mgs4, you would know how short is the gameplay (as snipersnake experienced) thus is it worth the trouble? espeically such little game time had trouble fitting into a blueray disc... mgs4 excel at the whole experience and changing disc from time to time is really ruining the experience... if konami is all about the money, the porting would not earn them that much... its been stated that developing a game on the ps3 is way dufferent compare to other console thus the porting would be hard... wut more after all the optimization done for the game... as for multiple dual layer disc, the price would be high for konami to make big $$$... and lets face it, most msia 360 owners do not buy much original game and imagine how much it would cost u jack sparrow for the mgs4 port... besides mgs2 was ported to xbox and the response was superbly good but the sales was not good at all... Kojima stated this before as well when ppl where asking for the 360 version in one of his interview and he was not happy with it at all about wut happened... once bitten, twice shy... i for one do not support mgs4 remake on 360 but rather a spinoff or an original game (more likely since the whole metal gear solid saga has ended)... i do not want another Last Remnant to spoil a masterpiece such as mgs4 itself... for those that would call me a ps3 fanboy, i had no trouble with ff13 or tekken6 going to the 360 as well since i am a gamer, who enjoy games on wutever console it may be in as long as i get to play it... i hate fanboys especially the WoW-clone meme trolls... as for another theory, it is possible for a metal gear ac!d on the ipod based on the hint above... and kojima produtions is pretty well off with apple (hint: mgs4 apple products) ps: the decision is for kojima productions to make, not konami... I have to say evofantasy's argument make sense to me. And the reasoning on a new MGS on iPod/Phone, also seems possible, SEGA said that iPod graphic power is as good as DreamCast, so we might be in for a treat. However there are a few things I would like to point out, initially it is real hard to develop for PS3, I am not sure in this period, developing for 360 & PS3 would be so hard already. Look at RE 5, Fallout 3, SF4, Madden, just to point out a few. The talent required to port games from PS3 to 360 or PC, would not be very hard to find for a company like Konami. But like what you've said, MGS4 might not be worth a port if it is mostly "cut scenes". Secondly, on MGS2 porting. I don't agree on "Once bitten, twice shy". This generation is totally different, last gen both MS & Nintendo are "also-run" to the behemoth SONY. This gen, it is no longer economically feasible to develop an exclusive on PS3, the November 08 NPD sales figures would have reminded game companies' CEO on where the crowd is heading No, certainly not going to PS3. Square's decision on FF13 and DQX have only confirmed the increasing trend among game companies, I don't think KONAMI will be very different from the others, and no, I don't think KOJIMA is different as well. "Pursue of profit" is a noble capitalism idea. Finally I am not sure whether most Malaysian 360 owners does Jack Sparrow tricks, i know more ori 360 guys than Jack Sparrow guys, i myself have 0 Jack Sparrow games. But my point is, Jack Sparrow in Malaysia or ASEAN/HK in total, will not have serious effect on 360 game sales. Because lets' face it, to an Canadian American Japanese or Aussie that earn several times more than Malaysian, US$59 is pretty affordable, and it would not get you banned from XBOXLive - the whole point of getting a 360. Why would gamers risk that? Given the tough enforcement in these countries, why would a game seller risk their very own business by doing Jack Sparrow's? |
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Dec 13 2008, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM) so did u actually played the game as u claimed when you flamed others of fanboy-ism? unless ur teacher doesnt teach u the meaning of "if"i would not have problem if you are not flaming others of fanboy-ism jacking up stories jz to prove something... multidisc is about changing and the cost... serious gamers like many of us just wanna play the game and changing the disc would not matter... but if you acutally play mgs4, you would know how short is the gameplay (as snipersnake experienced) thus is it worth the trouble? espeically such little game time had trouble fitting into a blueray disc... mgs4 excel at the whole experience and changing disc from time to time is really ruining the experience... if konami is all about the money, the porting would not earn them that much... its been stated that developing a game on the ps3 is way dufferent compare to other console thus the porting would be hard... wut more after all the optimization done for the game... as for multiple dual layer disc, the price would be high for konami to make big $$$... and lets face it, most msia 360 owners do not buy much original game and imagine how much it would cost u jack sparrow for the mgs4 port... besides mgs2 was ported to xbox and the response was superbly good but the sales was not good at all... Kojima stated this before as well when ppl where asking for the 360 version in one of his interview and he was not happy with it at all about wut happened... once bitten, twice shy... i for one do not support mgs4 remake on 360 but rather a spinoff or an original game (more likely since the whole metal gear solid saga has ended)... i do not want another Last Remnant to spoil a masterpiece such as mgs4 itself... for those that would call me a ps3 fanboy, i had no trouble with ff13 or tekken6 going to the 360 as well since i am a gamer, who enjoy games on wutever console it may be in as long as i get to play it... i hate fanboys especially the WoW-clone meme trolls... as for another theory, it is possible for a metal gear ac!d on the ipod based on the hint above... and kojima produtions is pretty well off with apple (hint: mgs4 apple products) ps: the decision is for kojima productions to make, not konami... Added on December 13, 2008, 12:31 amand im not talking bout mgs4 as u mention.. im talking bout changing disc.. as far as i know.. u the only 1 who keep on talking mgs4 port on 360 with multiple disc.. i only concern with wat with multiple disc problem.. not mgs4 multiple disc prob... This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 13 2008, 12:31 AM |
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Dec 13 2008, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM) if konami is all about the money, the porting would not earn them that much... Sorry, but Msian gamers means squat to those developers. We are just a drop in the vast oceans. Currently X360 owners are in the region of 22 million. Err how many Malaysian have X360? its been stated that developing a game on the ps3 is way dufferent compare to other console thus the porting would be hard... wut more after all the optimization done for the game... as for multiple dual layer disc, the price would be high for konami to make big $$$... and lets face it, most msia 360 owners do not buy much original game and imagine how much it would cost u jack sparrow for the mgs4 port... As I posted before, CoD:WaW for 360 sold 1.4 mill on its first month. Just in US of A. I'm sure MGS4 can get much more than that. QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM) besides mgs2 was ported to xbox and the response was superbly good but the sales was not good at all... That time.Kojima stated this before as well when ppl where asking for the 360 version in one of his interview and he was not happy with it at all about wut happened... once bitten, twice shy... Xbox < PS2. But now X360 > PS3. If PS3 can sell 1 million copies of MGS4, X360 can sell at least 2 million. You want proof? Just check any multi console games sales figure. X360's version sells more than PS3's version QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM) multidisc is about changing and the cost... The benefit (Potential revenue stream) will far outweight the cost.QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM) mgs4 excel at the whole experience and changing disc from time to time is really ruining the experience... There's a malay expression "Nak seribu daya, tak nak seribu dalih". If the powers that be demanded it to be ported, I'm sure the game programmer will find a way to do it. |
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Dec 13 2008, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 13 2008, 01:35 AM) Sorry, but Msian gamers means squat to those developers. We are just a drop in the vast oceans. Currently X360 owners are in the region of 22 million. Err how many Malaysian have X360? how many copies did bioshock sell on the ps3?As I posted before, CoD:WaW for 360 sold 1.4 mill on its first month. Just in US of A. I'm sure MGS4 can get much more than that. That time. Xbox < PS2. But now X360 > PS3. If PS3 can sell 1 million copies of MGS4, X360 can sell at least 2 million. You want proof? Just check any multi console games sales figure. X360's version sells more than PS3's version The benefit (Potential revenue stream) will far outweight the cost. There's a malay expression "Nak seribu daya, tak nak seribu dalih". If the powers that be demanded it to be ported, I'm sure the game programmer will find a way to do it. i dunno any sales figure sites |
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Dec 13 2008, 01:51 AM
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Dec 13 2008, 01:39 AM) how many copies did bioshock sell on the ps3? From www.vgcharts.orgi dunno any sales figure sites X360 = 2.10 m PS3 = 0.21 m And if anyone complains that the 360 version came out much earlier than the PS3 version look below, Resident Evil 4 where the NGC version came out much earlier than the PS2 version. NGC = 1.69 m PS2 = 2.71 m This shows that USERBASE counts and currently X360 userbase is much more than PS3 userbase. |
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 13 2008, 01:51 AM) From www.vgcharts.org are there any other sites besides that?X360 = 2.10 m PS3 = 0.21 m And if anyone complains that the 360 version came out much earlier than the PS3 version look below, Resident Evil 4 where the NGC version came out much earlier than the PS2 version. NGC = 1.69 m PS2 = 2.71 m This shows that USERBASE counts and currently X360 userbase is much more than PS3 userbase. cos   no way ico sold zero |
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Dec 13 2008, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE - Sony's ICO development team has confirmed that a new title is under development, they plan to reveal the title in near future. The team has also revealed the worldwide sales of ICO, which is around 650,000 copies; and the breakdown is as follows: * USA (09/26/01) - 250,000 units * Japan (12/06/01) - 160,000 units * Asia (01/13/02) - 20,000 units * South Korea (02/22/02) - 20,000 units * Europe (03/20/02) - 200,000 units http://www.eurogamer.it/forum_thread_posts...thread_id=16235 |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:42 AM
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Dec 13 2008, 01:39 AM) how many copies did bioshock sell on the ps3? Actually i can explain why Bioshock cant sell as much as the exclusive game of PS3, bcoz mostly PS3 owner which have at least mid-end PC already bought Bioshock b4 the announce Bioshock will port to PS3. This reason can accept or not?? i dunno any sales figure sites |
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Dec 13 2008, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Dec 13 2008, 05:42 AM) Actually i can explain why Bioshock cant sell as much as the exclusive game of PS3, bcoz mostly PS3 owner which have at least mid-end PC already bought Bioshock b4 the announce Bioshock will port to PS3. This reason can accept or not?? What?It doesn't make sense at all. What makes u conclude that "most PS3 owner that have mid-end PS bought BioShock"? What is the reason u employ? Any source u quoted? The reason is simple, PS3 have smaller user base, hence it sold less. Period. |
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Dec 13 2008, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 13 2008, 09:12 AM) What? QFTFT It doesn't make sense at all. What makes u conclude that "most PS3 owner that have mid-end PS bought BioShock"? What is the reason u employ? Any source u quoted? The reason is simple, PS3 have smaller user base, hence it sold less. Period. |
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Dec 13 2008, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 13 2008, 09:12 AM) What? LOL, sry for my poor english again, what i mean is mostly PS3 owner have already bought the PC version bcoz they dunno Bioshock will port to PS3. Give a example, if MGS4 will not port to Xbox360, but it will port to PC version, so u think how many xbox360 owner will give it a try on PC version MGS4?? But after 6 month suddenly Konami announce MGS4 will port to Xbox360 pula, so u think they all will bought the xbox360 version again?? Maybe some of them will bought it for collection, but sure the sell will not good as the PS3 version, right??? Ya, i know not all console owner will have another pc to play pc game.It doesn't make sense at all. What makes u conclude that "most PS3 owner that have mid-end PS bought BioShock"? What is the reason u employ? Any source u quoted? The reason is simple, PS3 have smaller user base, hence it sold less. Period. |
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Dec 13 2008, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 13 2008, 12:29 AM) unless ur teacher doesnt teach u the meaning of "if" seriously, understand the whole phrase, not jz the word itself...Added on December 13, 2008, 12:31 amand im not talking bout mgs4 as u mention.. im talking bout changing disc.. as far as i know.. u the only 1 who keep on talking mgs4 port on 360 with multiple disc.. i only concern with wat with multiple disc problem.. not mgs4 multiple disc prob... if you cant, i would suggest u to take english classes... if u dun have a concrete argument to back ur fact, trying to find language weakness/ repeating wut have already been answered would not help... instead just keeping quite or being evasive would save ur face... this discussion is about would mgs be on another console and i was merely pointing out how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue... thus the whole disc changing in my argument is about mgs4 since generalization is not needed since i am talking bout mgs4 which is the currently only game which have problem fitting all its content into a single blueray disc... if hd-dvd is sitll around, then its possible by all ways... and again for the 3rd time, did u actually played mgs4 as u stated which is the first thing you questioned my credibility? as for those citing multi platform games selling better on 360 than ps3: - - its obvious that these multiplatform games are not long running big fanbase series like mgs and most mgs fan already got their ps3 and finished the whole game. you can never compare the sales of a exclusive game with a generic multiplatform game - 360 have more owners than ps3, thus the 360 version would sell more based on common sense - most of the multi platform games you all cited are FPS, as we do know the 360 appeal to FPS fans - some games like bioshock has already been out on the 360 and pc months b4 the ps3 version, so obviously most ps3 owners had played it on the pc or 360 (lots of 360 owners do own a ps3 as well)? and most gamers would know kojima is pretty much like blizzard... he only releases games which he thinks would be good and suit the fans... he's been talking about next gen entertainment and comparing why did he ps3 for mgs4 over 360... i dun remember much of the details since its pretty long ago but if you actually google it, you would know how anal he is over the whole thing... becuase of this, i would not expect mgs4 remake/ port on the 360 unless konami really force him to... @ neogeocdz most of the games you mentioned are developed concunrently on multi platform basis... on the other hand, how often have u seen a game originally developed on the ps3 and then ported to the 360 (i certainly dun remember any)? mgs4 is a game made and optimize for the ps3 and the blueray system in mind and thus porting would not be easy as it seemed... its definately not possible but it is not easy as well espeically with all the optimization needed... its a risk that kojima/konami would need to take... which is why i totally support any possible mgs on the 360 other than mgs4... |
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Dec 13 2008, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 01:03 PM) seriously, understand the whole phrase, not jz the word itself... my english calss is going wellif you cant, i would suggest u to take english classes... if u dun have a concrete argument to back ur fact, trying to find language weakness/ repeating wut have already been answered would not help... instead just keeping quite or being evasive would save ur face... this discussion is about would mgs be on another console and i was merely pointing out how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue... thus the whole disc changing in my argument is about mgs4 since generalization is not needed since i am talking bout mgs4 which is the currently only game which have problem fitting all its content into a single blueray disc... if hd-dvd is sitll around, then its possible by all ways... and again for the 3rd time, did u actually played mgs4 as u stated which is the first thing you questioned my credibility? as for those citing multi platform games selling better on 360 than ps3: - - its obvious that these multiplatform games are not long running big fanbase series like mgs and most mgs fan already got their ps3 and finished the whole game. you can never compare the sales of a exclusive game with a generic multiplatform game - 360 have more owners than ps3, thus the 360 version would sell more based on common sense - most of the multi platform games you all cited are FPS, as we do know the 360 appeal to FPS fans - some games like bioshock has already been out on the 360 and pc months b4 the ps3 version, so obviously most ps3 owners had played it on the pc or 360 (lots of 360 owners do own a ps3 as well)? and most gamers would know kojima is pretty much like blizzard... he only releases games which he thinks would be good and suit the fans... he's been talking about next gen entertainment and comparing why did he ps3 for mgs4 over 360... i dun remember much of the details since its pretty long ago but if you actually google it, you would know how anal he is over the whole thing... becuase of this, i would not expect mgs4 remake/ port on the 360 unless konami really force him to... @ neogeocdz most of the games you mentioned are developed concunrently on multi platform basis... on the other hand, how often have u seen a game originally developed on the ps3 and then ported to the 360 (i certainly dun remember any)? mgs4 is a game made and optimize for the ps3 and the blueray system in mind and thus porting would not be easy as it seemed... its definately not possible but it is not easy as well espeically with all the optimization needed... its a risk that kojima/konami would need to take... which is why i totally support any possible mgs on the 360 other than mgs4... and i suggest u take the night class dont be stupid by playing game all night long or becomng stupid by act like forum whore all day simple question i asked wat wrong with multiple disc at the very first place This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 13 2008, 02:38 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 02:54 PM
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@ neogeocdz most of the games you mentioned are developed concunrently on multi platform basis... on the other hand, how often have u seen a game originally developed on the ps3 and then ported to the 360 (i certainly dun remember any)? Final Fantasy XIII although not yet released but was developed halfway exclusive for PS3 but now coming to the 360 also. Correct me if i'm wrong This post has been edited by yhanlee: Dec 13 2008, 02:56 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(yhanlee @ Dec 13 2008, 02:54 PM) Quote ff13 was claimed to be jz 13% progress (promotion gimmick imho)...@ neogeocdz most of the games you mentioned are developed concunrently on multi platform basis... on the other hand, how often have u seen a game originally developed on the ps3 and then ported to the 360 (i certainly dun remember any)? Final Fantasy XIII although not yet released but was developed halfway exclusive for PS3 but now coming to the 360 also. Correct me if i'm wrong and that was mainly the development of the crystal engine... i'm talking about games completed on the ps3 b4 porting... Added on December 13, 2008, 3:23 pm QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 13 2008, 02:37 PM) my english calss is going well lol then explain how i get full HDs at uni (monash)?and i suggest u take the night class dont be stupid by playing game all night long or becomng stupid by act like forum whore all day simple question i asked wat wrong with multiple disc at the very first place if your english is doing well, you would rebuke my claim on the 'if' issue... u can't rite? i dun need night classes since i got my IELTs band 7.5 and MUET band 5 (2 marks from band 6)... when did i complained about multidisc? my focus was multi disc for mgs4 due to the content issue... multidisc would be alright if its not 10 disc for such a short game especially you spent time watchign cutscenese... again its the 4th time u quoted me and evading have u played mgs4 as u claimed question... forum whore or not, i'm jz checking for forum waiting for my warhammer scenario to pop... i'm having my summer break and thus afford to spend my day gaming... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 03:24 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 12 2008, 09:10 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and you say most 360 owner did not buy original games? dude, try to see the number of original 360 games sold before making a fool of yourself. QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 01:03 PM) seriously, understand the whole phrase, not jz the word itself... 1. are you a 360 programmer? otherwise how you know it's hard?if you cant, i would suggest u to take english classes... if u dun have a concrete argument to back ur fact, trying to find language weakness/ repeating wut have already been answered would not help... instead just keeping quite or being evasive would save ur face... 1. this discussion is about would mgs be on another console and i was merely pointing out how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue... thus the whole disc changing in my argument is about mgs4 since generalization is not needed since i am talking bout mgs4 which is the currently only game which have problem fitting all its content into a single blueray disc... if hd-dvd is sitll around, then its possible by all ways... and again for the 3rd time, did u actually played mgs4 as u stated which is the first thing you questioned my credibility? 2. as for those citing multi platform games selling better on 360 than ps3: - - its obvious that these multiplatform games are not long running big fanbase series like mgs and most mgs fan already got their ps3 and finished the whole game. you can never compare the sales of a exclusive game with a generic multiplatform game - 360 have more owners than ps3, thus the 360 version would sell more based on common sense - most of the multi platform games you all cited are FPS, as we do know the 360 appeal to FPS fans - some games like bioshock has already been out on the 360 and pc months b4 the ps3 version, so obviously most ps3 owners had played it on the pc or 360 (lots of 360 owners do own a ps3 as well)? 3. and most gamers would know kojima is pretty much like blizzard... he only releases games which he thinks would be good and suit the fans... he's been talking about next gen entertainment and comparing why did he ps3 for mgs4 over 360... i dun remember much of the details since its pretty long ago but if you actually google it, you would know how anal he is over the whole thing... becuase of this, i would not expect mgs4 remake/ port on the 360 unless konami really force him to... @ neogeocdz 4. most of the games you mentioned are developed concunrently on multi platform basis... on the other hand, how often have u seen a game originally developed on the ps3 and then ported to the 360 (i certainly dun remember any)? mgs4 is a game made and optimize for the ps3 and the blueray system in mind and thus porting would not be easy as it seemed... its definately not possible but it is not easy as well espeically with all the optimization needed... its a risk that kojima/konami would need to take... which is why i totally support any possible mgs on the 360 other than mgs4... are you one of the kojima production engine designer? otherwise how you know the engine is not make to be easier to port the code to any platform? 2. and you say COD don't have big fanbase? btw, only from mgs3 it's been exclusive, surely with sony persuasion. mgs1 available for pc also. mgs2 available for pc and xbox also. heck, there's even mgs game for gameboy. thats not generic enough for you? 3. and most gamers know Itagaki also the same. but sigma still coming to the ps3 what. why? because it's the shareholder that have the last word. 4. just by saying such words i know that you're living in denial. Armored Core 4 rings any bells? |
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Dec 13 2008, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 01:03 PM) this discussion is about would mgs be on another console and i was merely pointing out how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue... Are you one of the programmer that you know it is next to impossible to put it on multi disc? thus the whole disc changing in my argument is about mgs4 since generalization is not needed since i am talking bout mgs4 which is the currently only game which have problem fitting all its content into a single blueray disc... if hd-dvd is sitll around, then its possible by all ways... and again for the 3rd time, did u actually played mgs4 as u stated which is the first thing you questioned my credibility? QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 01:03 PM) as for those citing multi platform games selling better on 360 than ps3: - 1. Let see the sales of FF13 in US shall we? 1. - its obvious that these multiplatform games are not long running big fanbase series like mgs and most mgs fan already got their ps3 and finished the whole game. you can never compare the sales of a exclusive game with a generic multiplatform game 2. - 360 have more owners than ps3, thus the 360 version would sell more based on common sense 3. - most of the multi platform games you all cited are FPS, as we do know the 360 appeal to FPS fans 4. - some games like bioshock has already been out on the 360 and pc months b4 the ps3 version, so obviously most ps3 owners had played it on the pc or 360 (lots of 360 owners do own a ps3 as well)? Wanna put a wager on it? 2. Agreed whic makes more sense to port it to 360. 3. Rock band, Guitar heroes sells more on 360 too Madden sells more on 360 too. What did you said about 360 owner only likes FPS? 4. Please see my arguement on RE 4, eventhough it came out months first on NGC, later only on PS2, the PS2 sales are much more than NGC BECAUSE bigger userbase. |
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Dec 13 2008, 04:08 PM
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this is coming from a xbot (since ur ign is pretty much obvious)?
seriously i've stated i'm not a ps3 fanboy or wut... if i am, i would have whined about ff13 and tekken mind you... i'm talking about msian 360 owners which i saw not buying original games... not overall 360 owners world wide... dun generalized my comments... 1. i'm not their programmer but i READ on how developers commenting on the difficulties... seriously all those saying programmer this programmer that, i am a comp science student and i know the technical in general and porting but not specific till the consoles in discussion... i never said multidisc was impossible, i stated that i would LOL if its 6 dvds for mgs4 on 360 and defended it saying the issues concerning multidisc... did u guys even bother to read my whole post? 2. i'm talking about exclusive fanbase which CoD ain't since its been on the pc, ps2 and even the xbox... CoD prior to CoD3 does not have a huge fanbase and was hugely overshadowed by MoH series... mgs started on nitendo then the remake for the psx... back then, there is no such thing as exclusive and console war was not like today... heck ff series started in nitendo as well, why was it regarded a sony exclusive then prior to ff13? 3. cause Itagaki nvr said anything about the hardware issue unlike kojima and he LEFT tecmo... that ring a bell to you? google kojima's comment on everything regarding mgs4 and the 360... 4. armored core 4 was never a ps3 exclusive (gamespot on numerous occasion mentioned its for both console)... there were initials development on both console b4 the 360 version was dropped and resumed back... there was no porting to be done! http://www.gamespot.com/news/6134156.html?tag=result;title;1 (see the date) Added on December 13, 2008, 4:17 pm QUOTE(corez @ Dec 13 2008, 04:05 PM) Are you one of the programmer that you know it is next to impossible to put it on multi disc? 1. why only the US? demographically, US have more 360... 1. Let see the sales of FF13 in US shall we? Wanna put a wager on it? 2. Agreed whic makes more sense to port it to 360. 3. Rock band, Guitar heroes sells more on 360 too Madden sells more on 360 too. What did you said about 360 owner only likes FPS? 4. Please see my arguement on RE 4, eventhough it came out months first on NGC, later only on PS2, the PS2 sales are much more than NGC BECAUSE bigger userbase. 2. version of the same game, released at the same time have more 360 buyers... wanna bet the port of the mgs4 if it happens would sell less than the ps3 version then? 3. as i've said, more owners of 360 = more sales... u can make a survey on FPS gamers and compare the number for 360 and the ps3 4. true but not many ppl buy a GC jz for RE4 unlike mgs4 This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 04:19 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:08 PM) 1. i'm not their programmer but i READ on how developers commenting on the difficulties... seriously all those saying programmer this programmer that, i am a comp science student and i know the technical in general and porting but not specific till the consoles in discussion... i never said multidisc was impossible, i stated that i would LOL if its 6 dvds for mgs4 on 360 and defended it saying the issues concerning multidisc... did u guys even bother to read my whole post? If your boss ask you to do something, would you whine about it OR just SFTU and do your job? That what those programmer will do if their PAYMASTER instructed them to port it.Shees, enough with the multidisc and technical difficulties arguement already pls. Added on December 13, 2008, 4:26 pm QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:08 PM) 1. why only the US? demographically, US have more 360... 1. Because Japan dont have it on 360 ler. FF 1.2. version of the same game, released at the same time have more 360 buyers... wanna bet the port of the mgs4 if it happens would sell less than the ps3 version then? 3. as i've said, more owners of 360 = more sales... u can make a survey on FPS gamers and compare the number for 360 and the ps3 4. true but not many ppl buy a GC jz for RE4 unlike mgs4 2. For 3 months, on your siggy says that youre an Idiot. 3. Haish, I've been telling all games sells more on 360 because of bigger userbase. Get on the programme will ya. 4. Thats not my arguement. My arguement is bigger userbase equals bigger sales. This post has been edited by corez: Dec 13 2008, 04:26 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 13 2008, 04:20 PM) If your boss ask you to do something, would you whine about it OR just SFTU and do your job? That what those programmer will do if their PAYMASTER instructed them to port it. sure my boss ask me to do something that would take a LOT of time and resource i'll still do it...Shees, enough with the multidisc and technical difficulties arguement already pls. Added on December 13, 2008, 4:26 pm 1. Because Japan dont have it on 360 ler. FF 1. 2. For 3 months, on your siggy says that youre an Idiot. 3. Haish, I've been telling all games sells more on 360 because of bigger userbase. Get on the programme will ya. 4. Thats not my arguement. My arguement is bigger userbase equals bigger sales. but dun u think the project managers will evaluate the ROI first b4 starting the project and the whole SDLC? the cost of porting would it be worth the return and the risk? bosses of such corporate would not as foolish as the bosses you claimed and they do listen to their underline and such technical issues do play it parts... dun jz do it for the sake of doing it... 1. Shouldn't it be worldwide then? we all do know 360 is strong in the US and the world does not only revolve around the US 2. its on with me... if you loose, you do the same as well? 3. and 4. bigger userbase but do the userbase all love the series/ genre? its like saying wii got the biggest userbase of all the consoles out there and thus EVERY game should be on wii... look at the whole picture will ya? userbase ain't everything... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 04:39 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 04:46 PM
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Why LOL on 6 dvds for MGS4 on Xbox360, about 10 years ago i play the PS the 4 disc FF7, i m still complain thats 4 cd still not enough for story of FF7, if u love the game, u will never care about how many media u need to use for the games any more, at the future we might need 2 or 4 blu-ray to play a game, so if we need it so we use it.
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Dec 13 2008, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:36 PM) sure my boss ask me to do something that would take a LOT of time and resource i'll still do it... Of course the ROI will far outweight the investment. Curently there are 22 mill Xbox users. For sales of MGS4, I would say 10% pruchased around 2 mill copies which is not far off considering major titles would garner around 2 mill to 1.5 mill of sales.but dun u think the project managers will evaluate the ROI first b4 starting the project and the whole SDLC? the cost of porting would it be worth the return and the risk? bosses of such corporate would not as foolish as the bosses you claimed and they do listen to their underline... 1. Shouldn't it be worldwide then? we all do know 360 is strong in the US and the world does not only revolve around the US 2. its on with me... if you loose, you do the same as well? 3. and 4. bigger userbase but do the userbase all love the series/ genre? its like saying wii got the biggest userbase of all the consoles out there and thus EVERY game should be on wii... look at the whole picture will ya? Lets do the maths shall we, 2 mill @ 59.90 each is around USD 120 mill. Lets say developers get 30% of it = USD 36 mill. NOW, do your REALY think that it cost USD 36 million to port MGS4 from PS3 to X360? 1. Because Square said only in US they will relese it on 360. In japan FF13 still only exclusive on PS3. 2. Of course lah i will put it if I lose. 3.4. Look, compare a console who have 100 million userbase and 20 million userbase, IF you are a developer which one you will choose? BTW, I saw what you did with mentioning the Wii thingy . I never mention it as I only discussing the merit of bringing MGS4 into 360.Added on December 13, 2008, 4:55 pm QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:36 PM) 3. and 4. bigger userbase but do the userbase all love the series/ genre? its like saying wii got the biggest userbase of all the consoles out there and thus EVERY game should be on wii... look at the whole picture will ya? userbase ain't everything... Just realised your edited text.Atari- Biggest userbase and most game are on it NES- Biggest userbase and most game are on it SNES- Biggest userbase and most game are on it PS- Biggest userbase and most game are on it PS2- Biggest userbase and most game are on it So userbase arent everything ahh? This post has been edited by corez: Dec 13 2008, 04:55 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Dec 13 2008, 04:46 PM) Why LOL on 6 dvds for MGS4 on Xbox360, about 10 years ago i play the PS the 4 disc FF7, i m still complain thats 4 cd still not enough for story of FF7, if u love the game, u will never care about how many media u need to use for the games any more, at the future we might need 2 or 4 blu-ray to play a game, so if we need it so we use it. thing is ff7 is long (i think ff7 was 3 disc is it)...the disc is pretty much proportional to the content... on the other hand mgs4's content is pretty little... |
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:56 PM) thing is ff7 is long (i think ff7 was 3 disc is it)... Good arguement: the disc is pretty much proportional to the content... on the other hand mgs4's content is pretty little...  Konami CEO: Square can do it, they released it on 3 disc and millions are sold. Konami Programmer: But Boss, ff7 is long, the disc is pretty much proportional to the content, on the other hand mgs4's content is pretty little... Konami CEO: Ohh ok, well, we could have raised millions of turnover and I could have gven you 12 months bonus. Its ok, we do other game then. Koname Programmer: I take it back, MGS4 will not come out on X360 |
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 13 2008, 04:52 PM) Of course the ROI will far outweight the investment. Curently there are 22 mill Xbox users. For sales of MGS4, I would say 10% pruchased around 2 mill copies which is not far off considering major titles would garner around 2 mill to 1.5 mill of sales. then explain wii which is the best selling console?Lets do the maths shall we, 2 mill @ 59.90 each is around USD 120 mill. Lets say developers get 30% of it = USD 36 mill. NOW, do your REALY think that it cost USD 36 million to port MGS4 from PS3 to X360? 1. Because Square said only in US they will relese it on 360. In japan FF13 still only exclusive on PS3. 2. Of course lah i will put it if I lose. 3.4. Look, compare a console who have 100 million userbase and 20 million userbase, IF you are a developer which one you will choose? BTW, I saw what you did with mentioning the Wii thingy . I never mention it as I only discussing the merit of bringing MGS4 into 360.Added on December 13, 2008, 4:55 pm Just realised your edited text. Atari- Biggest userbase and most game are on it NES- Biggest userbase and most game are on it SNES- Biggest userbase and most game are on it PS- Biggest userbase and most game are on it PS2- Biggest userbase and most game are on it So userbase arent everything ahh? shouldn't every game be there? the first few console you mentioned are the only console of that time... in the ps era, the console war would not even exist and its pretty much the main console there... in the ps2 era, most games are on the ps2 BECAUSE developers had problem fitting games into the cattridges early on and programming was easier on the ps2 (catch the trend)? but of the late, the xbox pretty much catch up despite the HUGE ps2 userbase... so userbase ain't everything... 1. so worldwide? fair enough rite? if not its pretty much 1 sided... 3. 4. if that huge userbase would play the game i would developt, sure i'll choose the bigger userbase... but if my game would sell better among the small userbase, u tell me which would i choose... the new dragonball game was launch on the ps2 instead of the ps3 or the 360 because most fans of the series still own the ps2 and would play it... bigger userbase/ market share means ntg... Added on December 13, 2008, 5:05 pm QUOTE(corez @ Dec 13 2008, 05:02 PM) Good arguement: i catch sarcasm... Konami CEO: Square can do it, they released it on 3 disc and millions are sold. Konami Programmer: But Boss, ff7 is long, the disc is pretty much proportional to the content, on the other hand mgs4's content is pretty little... Konami CEO: Ohh ok, well, we could have raised millions of turnover and I could have gven you 12 months bonus. Its ok, we do other game then. Koname Programmer: I take it back, MGS4 will not come out on X360 even snipersnake whines about mgs4 due to the content issue... wut would u expect from other 360 players when they even have to change multiple disc? it would be better for konami to launch MGS online for the 360 if they would want profit... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 05:05 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:56 PM) thing is ff7 is long (i think ff7 was 3 disc is it)... I think you are too green on the whole multi-discs, compression and programming issues..the disc is pretty much proportional to the content... on the other hand mgs4's content is pretty little... |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 05:03 PM) then explain wii which is the best selling console? This post has been edited by corez: Dec 13 2008, 05:15 PMshouldn't every game be there? Most developer are banking on X360 and PS3 prior to the launch based on specs. They were shocked when Wii became the best sellin. They are retryfying it by bringing more games like Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest. the first few console you mentioned are the only console of that time... in the ps era, the console war would not even exist and its pretty much the main console there... I donno what have you been smoking but have you herad of Sega and their console Saturn? N64 lost pretty much earlier because it was release 1 year late and necause NINTENDO STUPIDITY which I would not explain in the ps2 era, most games are on the ps2 BECAUSE developers had problem fitting games into the cattridges early on and programming was easier on the ps2 (catch the trend)? but of the late, the xbox pretty much catch up despite the HUGE ps2 userbase... so databse ain't everything... What cartridge problem? During PS2 all are using disc already. XBox never catch up ok. We are talking 100 million vs 20++ million 1. so worldwide? fair enough rite? if not its pretty much 1 sided... FF13 are released on 360 only in USA. We have to compare Apples with Apples. Not Apples with Oranges. Compare sales in US with Sales in US. Hmm, maybe you should put that siggy now 3. 4. if that huge userbase would play the game i would developt, sure i'll choose the bigger userbase... but if my game would sell better among the small userbase, u tell me which would i choose... the new dragonball game was launch on the ps2 instead of the ps3 or the 360 because most fans of the series still own the ps2 and would play it... ROFL, you are basically agreeying with me. PS2 userbase is 100 million and 360 WITH PS3 only around 35 million bigger userbase/ market share means ntg... Edited. And yet you put that Dragonball arguement |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 03:15 PM) ff13 was claimed to be jz 13% progress (promotion gimmick imho)... The onus is with you, not lenanza. However I don't see any problem with your English anyway.and that was mainly the development of the crystal engine... i'm talking about games completed on the ps3 b4 porting... Added on December 13, 2008, 3:23 pm lol then explain how i get full HDs at uni (monash)? if your english is doing well, you would rebuke my claim on the 'if' issue... u can't rite? i dun need night classes since i got my IELTs band 7.5 and MUET band 5 (2 marks from band 6)... when did i complained about multidisc? my focus was multi disc for mgs4 due to the content issue... multidisc would be alright if its not 10 disc for such a short game especially you spent time watchign cutscenese... again its the 4th time u quoted me and evading have u played mgs4 as u claimed question... forum whore or not, i'm jz checking for forum waiting for my warhammer scenario to pop... i'm having my summer break and thus afford to spend my day gaming... |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 05:03 PM) wut would u expect from other 360 players when they even have to change multiple disc? I would expext the same like PS players playing FF7 |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:14 PM
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Simple. just change the damn disc and continue playing. Is that even a problem to begin with?
Just like how Nike does it, "Just Do It." |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:16 PM
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You have to understand kyo, it takes your family away to change a disc during gameplay
Multi-discs is a console killer, and I can show prove. Prove I tell you.. *runs* Added on December 13, 2008, 5:19 pm*comes back* look, there are multi-discs games for Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, XBox, Gamecube, all failed miserably. I have credentials you see, not simply talking This post has been edited by gundamalpha: Dec 13 2008, 05:19 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:56 PM) thing is ff7 is long (i think ff7 was 3 disc is it)... Opps, yup, 3 disc for PS and 4 disc for PC, but PC is just direct install all the game inside the hardisk. So Konami should have no problem to make a multi-installer dvd for Xbox360 if MGS4 port to Xbox360.the disc is pretty much proportional to the content... on the other hand mgs4's content is pretty little... |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Dec 13 2008, 05:29 PM) Opps, yup, 3 disc for PS and 4 disc for PC, but PC is just direct install all the game inside the hardisk. So Konami should have no problem to make a multi-installer dvd for Xbox360 if MGS4 port to Xbox360. There's a big problem, a game like MGS4, with such limited content, is a sin to be produced on 6 discs. Yes, 6 discs for sure because that's what I heard. What more, I'm a full HD aka 1080p student form a Uni. |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 13 2008, 05:12 PM) thus they developers flock to the psx thus killing the n64... since u know so much about the gaming industry, this should not be a surprise for u since its the first major failure nitendo had... how big is a blueray size that had trouble fitting mgs4? how big is a 360HD? u would answer urself bout the whole install into the 360 thingy... and dun tell me, u uninstall everything from ur 360's HD just for mgs4 and then need to reinstall settings, etc for your other games... if you wanna install, might as well port it to the PC and not a next-gen console... in mgs4, u change the disc and continue watching, not playing... and the cutscenese are interleaved into the game btw, u dun get loading time after a cutscene into gameplay since the cutscenes itself is ingame... well if u all insist that mgs4 would be on 360, continue at it... i'm grown lazy from talking to ppl who know nothing about the next-gen war, the consoles, the game and wut the developer said about the porting of the game itself... i've already said wut i needed (google a bit more and its not hard to understand) and we'll see wut happen in the future... Added on December 13, 2008, 5:39 pm QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 13 2008, 05:33 PM) There's a big problem, a game like MGS4, with such limited content, is a sin to be produced on 6 discs. Yes, 6 discs for sure because that's what I heard. What more, I'm a full HD aka 1080p student form a Uni. stop making a full of urself with all ur nonsense trolling/ flames...the HD in my context is high distinction, not high definition all of ur points are jz statements for the point of stating, argument for the sake of arguing... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 05:41 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 05:38 PM) the n64 was using catridge... And you are still saying like you have the 360 version prototype on hand. thus they developers flock to the psx thus killing the n64... since u know so much about the gaming industry, this should not be a surprise for u since its the first major failure nitendo had... how big is a blueray size that had trouble fitting mgs4? how big is a 360HD? u would answer urself bout the whole install into the 360 thingy... and dun tell me, u uninstall everything from ur 360's HD just for mgs4 and then need to reinstall settings, etc for your other games... if you wanna install, might as well port it to the PC and not a next-gen console... in mgs4, u change the disc and continue watching, not playing... and the cutscenese are interleaved into the game btw, u dun get loading time after a cutscene into gameplay since the cutscenes itself is ingame... well if u all insist that mgs4 would be on 360, continue at it... i'm grown lazy from talking to ppl who know nothing about the next-gen war, the consoles, the game and wut the developer said about the porting of the game itself... i've already said wut i needed (google a bit more and its not hard to understand) and we'll see wut happen in the future... Added on December 13, 2008, 5:39 pm stop making a full of urself with all ur nonsense trolling/ flames... the HD in my context is high distinction, not high definition And of course I'm making myself full, I just ate. Anyway I'm just like you, talking crap with no evidence/foundations. Just a mirror of yourself. This post has been edited by gundamalpha: Dec 13 2008, 05:44 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 13 2008, 05:42 PM) And you are still saying like you have the 360 version prototype on hand. i dun see u posting any links to rebukeAnd of course I'm making myself full, I just ate. Anyway I'm just like you, talking crap with no evidence/foundations. Just a mirror of yourself. i dun see u posting any support argument i dun see you posting anything to rebuke my statements all i see if you posting flames/ sarcastic remarks... nuff' said |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 13 2008, 05:33 PM) There's a big problem, a game like MGS4, with such limited content, is a sin to be produced on 6 discs. Yes, 6 discs for sure because that's what I heard. What more, I'm a full HD aka 1080p student form a Uni. Hmmm , should it be a big problem, only Konami know that. |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 05:46 PM) i dun see u posting any links to rebuke And you didn't either, just some rants/hates. And sure they smell, BS that is.i dun see u posting any support argument i dun see you posting anything to rebuke my statements all i see if you posting flames/ sarcastic remarks... nuff' said |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 13 2008, 05:49 PM) And you didn't either, just some rants/hates. And sure they smell, BS that is. some guy posted about armored core 4..i linked the gamespot article as proof... ya BS to a troll like you? |
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Dec 13 2008, 05:52 PM
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Where's your 6 discs evidence?
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Dec 13 2008, 05:56 PM
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Aiyo... enough lah guys.
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Dec 13 2008, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 13 2008, 05:52 PM) Where's your 6 discs evidence? simple math...how big is a blueray, how big is a DVD... is there such compression out there? is there a need for such a simple rethorical question? @nakata101 ok i'll stop feeding the troll... Added on December 13, 2008, 6:06 pmPressed on MGS4's exclusivity and the possibility of an Xbox 360 port, Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's, and admitted that "because MGS4 was optimised for the PS3 it is probably not possible". from http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=225467 on mgs4 for the 360 to back on my claimed about optimization... seriously, if you guys would to go as far as me digging up wut i've read so far i may do it lol... Added on December 13, 2008, 6:08 pmunless that data was divided between about five dual-layer DVDs = 6 or more single layer DvDs http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/02/kojima-m...b-blu-ray-disc/ Added on December 13, 2008, 6:11 pmif you would want mgs4 low quality on the 360 go ahead... i'm a fan of the series, not any console and i WOULD not want MGS4 port to be anotehr Last Remnant http://ps3.qj.net/Hideo-Kojima-Blu-ray-doe...g/49/aid/114921 Added on December 13, 2008, 6:15 pmThe rumors were squashed later on and Hideo K. often spoke openly about his disapproval and of current-gen formats, including the capacity of PS3's Blu-ray, which he regarded as "too small" for the likes of MGS 4. http://www.actiontrip.com/rei/comments_new...tml?id=101508_3 This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 06:15 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 05:38 PM) 1. the n64 was using catridge... 1. You Postedthus they developers flock to the psx thus killing the n64... since u know so much about the gaming industry, this should not be a surprise for u since its the first major failure nitendo had... 2. how big is a blueray size that had trouble fitting mgs4? how big is a 360HD? u would answer urself bout the whole install into the 360 thingy... and dun tell me, u uninstall everything from ur 360's HD just for mgs4 and then need to reinstall settings, etc for your other games... if you wanna install, might as well port it to the PC and not a next-gen console... 3. in mgs4, u change the disc and continue watching, not playing... and the cutscenese are interleaved into the game btw, u dun get loading time after a cutscene into gameplay since the cutscenes itself is ingame... 4. well if u all insist that mgs4 would be on 360, continue at it... i'm grown lazy from talking to ppl who know nothing about the next-gen war, the consoles, the game and wut the developer said about the porting of the game itself... i've already said wut i needed (google a bit more and its not hard to understand) and we'll see wut happen in the future... Added on December 13, 2008, 5:39 pm stop making a full of urself with all ur nonsense trolling/ flames... the HD in my context is high distinction, not high definition all of ur points are jz statements for the point of stating, argument for the sake of arguing... QUOTE in the ps2 era, most games are on the ps2 BECAUSE developers had problem fitting games into the cattridges early on and programming was easier on the ps2 (catch the trend)? but of the late, the xbox pretty much catch up despite the HUGE ps2 userbase... so databse ain't everything... N64 is during PS era, not PS2 ya. Thats why I reply as I did before. Get your facts right. 2. If ppl want to do it they will find a way. One example is MKV video which is roughly 20% of initial size. 3. Yes, you would know everything dont you? 4. Why are you so stubborn to accept the POSSIBILITY of MGS4 ported into X360? Anything is possible you know? 20 years ago, ppl would laugh if I said we could play a SONIC game on a NINTENDO console. Anthing is possible if there are money making opportinity AND MGS4 on X360 will MAKES MONEY. PERIOD. |
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Dec 13 2008, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 13 2008, 06:43 PM) 1. You Posted i've experienced it and thus i can say it...N64 is during PS era, not PS2 ya. Thats why I reply as I did before. Get your facts right. 2. If ppl want to do it they will find a way. One example is MKV video which is roughly 20% of initial size. 3. Yes, you would know everything dont you? 4. Why are you so stubborn to accept the POSSIBILITY of MGS4 ported into X360? Anything is possible you know? 20 years ago, ppl would laugh if I said we could play a SONIC game on a NINTENDO console. Anthing is possible if there are money making opportinity AND MGS4 on X360 will MAKES MONEY. PERIOD. all the boss battle in MGS4 would be the simplest proof to wut i've claimed... gamespot's video review said the same as well... bout the catridge thing, i got confused between psx and ps2 XD ya when there's a will there's a way eh even if its beyond the reach of technology... well hope with that in mind, AIDS can be cured easily... an episode of Gundam OO in mkv (slightly over 20 minutes) is around 350mb... try to see how long are the total mgs cutscenese... if such compression is possible, kojima would not remove contents from the game jz to fit a blueray put things short, i'm lazy to argue d since from my post above i've provided enough evidence for my claims... we'll see if there a MGS4 remake for the 360 k? This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 07:36 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 06:56 PM) i've experienced it and thus i can say it... Cool down bro, they are just trying to let u know that there is a possibility of it coming to 360 forall the boss battle in MGS4 would be the simplest proof to wut i've claimed... gamespot's video review said the same as well... bout the catridge thing, i got confused between psx and ps2 XD ya when there's a will there's a way eh even if its beyond the reach of technology... well hope with that in mind, AIDS can be cured easily... an episode of Gundam OO in mkv (slightly over 20 minutes) is around 350mb... try to see how long are the total mgs cutscenese... if such compression is possible, kojima would not remove contents from the game jz to fit a blueray put things short, i'm lazy to argue d since from my post above i've provided enough evidence for my claims... we'll see if there a MGS4 remake for the 360 k? extra profit... On the developer point of view they spend millions in developing the game and selling it to a wider user base really makes sense commercially for them to recoup their investment or maximise profit. As for the technical part of whetter is possible to port or not?? Maybe we let Konami worry about that, if can than good for them coz more people can enjoy the good game and they get extra profit. win win situation, if cannot then so be it. Cheer up and dunt u worry for the developer coz they make the game and we gamers enjoy the game |
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Dec 13 2008, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(yhanlee @ Dec 13 2008, 07:54 PM) Cool down bro, they are just trying to let u know that there is a possibility of it coming to 360 for the thing is i nvr said impossible in the first place...extra profit... On the developer point of view they spend millions in developing the game and selling it to a wider user base really makes sense commercially for them to recoup their investment or maximise profit. As for the technical part of whetter is possible to port or not?? Maybe we let Konami worry about that, if can than good for them coz more people can enjoy the good game and they get extra profit. win win situation, if cannot then so be it. Cheer up and dunt u worry for the developer coz they make the game and we gamers enjoy the game none of my posts said its impossible... i jz said i'll LOL XD the rest jz join in for fun flaming me that i said its impossible... anywas nt getting worked out at all... queueing scenario in warhammer and when it didnt pop, i'll reply here... jz that some ppl instead of posting fact jz posting flames and fanboy-ism that annoy me (thus my first post in the thread)... when i actually post a fact, they'll all ignore it and still flame calling BS... in fact corex, neogeocdz n nakata did post some valid arguments and i had no problem... it is a healthy discussion... anyways still waiting for that gundamalpha who said he played mgs4 more than i know to answer my question 3 pages ago and not instead asking me dumb question on 6disc evidence (i feel an insult to my brain), calling BS, proclaiming i need english lessons, calling me dumb etc... |
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Dec 13 2008, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:08 PM) this is coming from a xbot (since ur ign is pretty much obvious)? your comment of pirate game only for m'sian make less sense since konami or even MS did not even consider MY for country they will publish the game to. if they not going to publish here, why bother about the pirate games here?seriously i've stated i'm not a ps3 fanboy or wut... if i am, i would have whined about ff13 and tekken mind you... i'm talking about msian 360 owners which i saw not buying original games... not overall 360 owners world wide... dun generalized my comments... 1. i'm not their programmer but i READ on how developers commenting on the difficulties... seriously all those saying programmer this programmer that, i am a comp science student and i know the technical in general and porting but not specific till the consoles in discussion... i never said multidisc was impossible, i stated that i would LOL if its 6 dvds for mgs4 on 360 and defended it saying the issues concerning multidisc... did u guys even bother to read my whole post? 2. i'm talking about exclusive fanbase which CoD ain't since its been on the pc, ps2 and even the xbox... CoD prior to CoD3 does not have a huge fanbase and was hugely overshadowed by MoH series... mgs started on nitendo then the remake for the psx... back then, there is no such thing as exclusive and console war was not like today... heck ff series started in nitendo as well, why was it regarded a sony exclusive then prior to ff13? 3. cause Itagaki nvr said anything about the hardware issue unlike kojima and he LEFT tecmo... that ring a bell to you? google kojima's comment on everything regarding mgs4 and the 360... 4. armored core 4 was never a ps3 exclusive (gamespot on numerous occasion mentioned its for both console)... there were initials development on both console b4 the 360 version was dropped and resumed back... there was no porting to be done! http://www.gamespot.com/news/6134156.html?tag=result;title;1 (see the date) 1. again, you said it would be very hard: "this discussion is about would mgs be on another console and i was merely pointing out how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue..." if the developer aiming for only 1 disc then surely thats impossible. but to be multiple disc would be hard?? again, are you 360 developer? 2. back then no exclusivity issue? then you do not know about tomb raider history. prior to COD3, previous COD don't have huge fanbase? COD1 is a game that won so many awards, just so you know. 3. dude, what does he left tecmo have to do anything with sigma?? sigma come out before he left tecmo, just fyi. the reason i brought up itagaki is because sigma is not under itagaki, hence mgs4 port for 360 can also be not under h. kojima. thus, kojima words means nothing for porting to 360. 4. heh, i see wrongly on the fromsoftware announce date, bad choice for example, sorry. i assume you know lucas arts? they say all their game will be done in ps3 then ported to 360 http://www.bingegamer.net/2008/lucasarts-t...s3-port-to-360/ so there you go, ps3 port to 360, the reality. heck, they even feel it will be easier from ps3 port to 360 than vice-versa. |
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Dec 13 2008, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 13 2008, 09:05 PM) your comment of pirate game only for m'sian make less sense since konami or even MS did not even consider MY for country they will publish the game to. if they not going to publish here, why bother about the pirate games here? 1. Kojima said he dun like the current-gen tech at all (ie DvD)...1. again, you said it would be very hard: "this discussion is about would mgs be on another console and i was merely pointing out how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue..." if the developer aiming for only 1 disc then surely thats impossible. but to be multiple disc would be hard?? again, are you 360 developer? 2. back then no exclusivity issue? then you do not know about tomb raider history. prior to COD3, previous COD don't have huge fanbase? COD1 is a game that won so many awards, just so you know. 3. dude, what does he left tecmo have to do anything with sigma?? sigma come out before he left tecmo, just fyi. the reason i brought up itagaki is because sigma is not under itagaki, hence mgs4 port for 360 can also be not under h. kojima. thus, kojima words means nothing for porting to 360. 4. heh, i see wrongly on the fromsoftware announce date, bad choice for example, sorry. i assume you know lucas arts? they say all their game will be done in ps3 then ported to 360 http://www.bingegamer.net/2008/lucasarts-t...s3-port-to-360/ so there you go, ps3 port to 360, the reality. heck, they even feel it will be easier from ps3 port to 360 than vice-versa. 2. it won awards but how much of a rave was it? award winning games dun always have fans mind you... look at okami for instance, clover studio closed down... 3. when some1 is nt happy, he'll leave... when kojima said he wanna left the development, fans have been sending death threats... if its not under him, it looses his magical finishing and touch... jz look at the mgs4 credits, u will see how involve he is from producing, motion capture, voice acting (yes he does motion capture and voice acting as well!) directing, plot, etc... 4. from ur link "This decision was sparked after LucasArts began developing The Force Unleashed for the Xbox 360 back in 2005. When it was time to transfer the game to a PS3 development kit, they learned that it wasn’t easy to move the game from one platform to another."... porting aint easy simple as that... and its TO develop, means they haven implement it yet... as for the malaysian pirated issue, its a mere remark since i know some ppl who posted are jack sparrow players and its a matter on questioning them hw much would they need to pay for even the jack sparrow version... more disc = higher cost... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 13 2008, 09:21 PM |
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Dec 13 2008, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 09:19 PM) 1. Kojima said he dun like the current-gen tech at all (ie DvD)... 1. don't like and hard to do are way different things...2. it won awards but how much of a rave was it? award winning games dun always have fans mind you... look at okami for instance, clover studio closed down... 3. when some1 is nt happy, he'll leave... when kojima said he wanna left the development, fans have been sending death threats... if its not under him, it looses his magical finishing and touch... jz look at the mgs4 credits, u will see how involve he is from producing, motion capture, voice acting (yes he does motion capture and voice acting as well!) directing, plot, etc... 4. from ur link "This decision was sparked after LucasArts began developing The Force Unleashed for the Xbox 360 back in 2005. When it was time to transfer the game to a PS3 development kit, they learned that it wasn’t easy to move the game from one platform to another."... porting aint easy simple as that... and its TO develop, means they haven implement it yet... as for the malaysian pirated issue, its a mere remark since i know some ppl who posted are jack sparrow players and its a matter on questioning them hw much would they need to pay for even the jack sparrow version... more disc = higher cost... 2. back then the rave was really hot. if the sales were no good, would it lead to come out of Collector's Edition , Game of the Year Edition, and the Deluxe Edition? heck, last year valve even make it possible to purchase and download the game. 3. are you talking about people leaving as in itagaki leaving? are you saying itagaki leaving because he's not happy sigma coming to ps3? how involve kojima is in mgs4 don't have proof it's because of death threat. and a port doesn't necessarily need him because everything has already been done in ps3, only left to make sure it stays the same when porting to 360. 4. porting aint easy simple as that? and lucas arts people saying from ps3 ports to 360 is easier. hmm... who's words have more credentials? |
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Dec 13 2008, 10:04 PM
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I can see this developing into a full blown hurricane.....
But quite surprised with all the cool arguments. Everybody is so restrained. Actually i am now quite convinced by evofantasy, that it will be MGS for iPhone. Even though i have a iPod Touch, it is none of my business.... Apple do not sell anything to Malaysian based iTune. To Apple, apparently Malaysians are bunch of Jack Sparrows that earned little income, not even worth supporting with a iTune Store. |
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Dec 13 2008, 10:11 PM
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and i think it is actually a game for DS.
but when people saying mgs4 for 360 is not possible just because of disc capacity restriction, i feel something is not right.. |
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Dec 13 2008, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 13 2008, 10:04 PM) I can see this developing into a full blown hurricane..... lol we are all mature enough to discuss in a not violent manner rite O.o But quite surprised with all the cool arguments. Everybody is so restrained. Actually i am now quite convinced by evofantasy, that it will be MGS for iPhone. Even though i have a iPod Touch, it is none of my business.... Apple do not sell anything to Malaysian based iTune. To Apple, apparently Malaysians are bunch of Jack Sparrows that earned little income, not even worth supporting with a iTune Store. kojima did said he would like to explore every platform out there... @xxboxx well i've stated my POV, you've stated urs... pretty lazy to keep on replying especially nw in T4 ORvR-ing with my main lol... i did not agree with some of your points and i'm still not convince of mgs4 on the 360... other mgs yes, but definately not mgs4: - - the disc issue - mgs4 optimized for the ps3 (as in one of the link i've posted) again i did NOT said its IMPOSSIBLE so i would appreciate it if you guys would stop claiming that i did (including ur latest post)... all i said was that i would LOL if that would to happen (ie mgs4 in 6 DvDs) |
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Dec 14 2008, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 06:03 PM) simple math... Do you know how much space does MGS4 take on a BD? It isn't full space I tell ya, it was 30+Gb. Your maths may be great, but you are doing the formula without knowing the figures.how big is a blueray, how big is a DVD... is there such compression out there? is there a need for such a simple rethorical question? Added on December 14, 2008, 1:22 am QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 08:08 PM) anyways still waiting for that gundamalpha who said he played mgs4 more than i know to answer my question 3 pages ago and not instead asking me dumb question on 6disc evidence (i feel an insult to my brain), calling BS, proclaiming i need english lessons, calling me dumb etc... I've never said I've played MGS4 thoroughly.You were poking on the 6 discs issue like it's a fact. I never said you need English lesson. I never called you dumb. I'm starting to believe you are a full HD student now, you extract so much form my posts which never happened. The topic had drawn positive responses until your terrible joke on '6 discs on 360' which you couldn't prove. This post has been edited by gundamalpha: Dec 14 2008, 02:10 AM |
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Dec 14 2008, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 04:08 PM) this is coming from a xbot (since ur ign is pretty much obvious)? maybe ur mind is not like wat ur saying...seriously i've stated i'm not a ps3 fanboy or wut... if i am, i would have whined about ff13 and tekken mind you... i'm talking about msian 360 owners which i saw not buying original games... not overall 360 owners world wide... dun generalized my comments... 1. i'm not their programmer but i READ on how developers commenting on the difficulties... seriously all those saying programmer this programmer that, i am a comp science student and i know the technical in general and porting but not specific till the consoles in discussion... i never said multidisc was impossible, i stated that i would LOL if its 6 dvds for mgs4 on 360 and defended it saying the issues concerning multidisc... did u guys even bother to read my whole post? 2. i'm talking about exclusive fanbase which CoD ain't since its been on the pc, ps2 and even the xbox... CoD prior to CoD3 does not have a huge fanbase and was hugely overshadowed by MoH series... mgs started on nitendo then the remake for the psx... back then, there is no such thing as exclusive and console war was not like today... heck ff series started in nitendo as well, why was it regarded a sony exclusive then prior to ff13? 3. cause Itagaki nvr said anything about the hardware issue unlike kojima and he LEFT tecmo... that ring a bell to you? google kojima's comment on everything regarding mgs4 and the 360... 4. armored core 4 was never a ps3 exclusive (gamespot on numerous occasion mentioned its for both console)... there were initials development on both console b4 the 360 version was dropped and resumed back... there was no porting to be done! http://www.gamespot.com/news/6134156.html?tag=result;title;1 (see the date) Added on December 13, 2008, 4:17 pm 1. why only the US? demographically, US have more 360... 2. version of the same game, released at the same time have more 360 buyers... wanna bet the port of the mgs4 if it happens would sell less than the ps3 version then? 3. as i've said, more owners of 360 = more sales... u can make a survey on FPS gamers and compare the number for 360 and the ps3 4. true but not many ppl buy a GC jz for RE4 unlike mgs4 boy...if ps3 got pirate game.. did all gamers buy 1 ori game for Rm200++ or u buy pirate version with multi disc well let say RM70 i bet..most of the people will buy pirate version... it was clearly ps3 dun have any change either than buying ori and..pls laa... dun act liek u were know malaysian 360 kaki.. ur statement show how stupidity u are when saying malaysian gamer not support ori.. if we were not support ori..GH shop will closed down on his 3rd month operation.. BOY Added on December 14, 2008, 2:08 amagain and again... wats wrong with multi disc even the game play is 20 minutes and cut scene event take 100HRS... HD = high dumb This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 14 2008, 02:08 AM |
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Dec 14 2008, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 13 2008, 11:42 PM) lol we are all mature enough to discuss in a not violent manner rite O.o your final revision of your statement are the one that you said you'll LOL if it comes in 6 dvd.kojima did said he would like to explore every platform out there... @xxboxx well i've stated my POV, you've stated urs... pretty lazy to keep on replying especially nw in T4 ORvR-ing with my main lol... i did not agree with some of your points and i'm still not convince of mgs4 on the 360... other mgs yes, but definately not mgs4: - - the disc issue - mgs4 optimized for the ps3 (as in one of the link i've posted) again i did NOT said its IMPOSSIBLE so i would appreciate it if you guys would stop claiming that i did (including ur latest post)... all i said was that i would LOL if that would to happen (ie mgs4 in 6 DvDs) but before that you were saying how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue. heck, you even made a statement that a dvd could not even (if possible its barely) fit 1 act, like you're a ps3 or 360 programmer. i'm claiming you said such thing, because you did said it. still believing disc issue and optimization are the reason mgs4 not coming to 360? one word: naive. i see this is going nowhere, so gonna put a period over it. my e-penis are long enough already that i do not need to argue anymore to make it longer. |
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Dec 14 2008, 02:12 AM
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btw, mgs4 players out there, the cut scene are in video form? not in-game?
i thought from ps2 era they start to use only in-game for cut scene. |
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Dec 14 2008, 02:15 AM
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MGS always use in game cut scene. Only the first demo (non playable) of PS MGS was showing the cut scenes in CGI format.
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Dec 14 2008, 06:27 AM
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I remember someone have upload a 4kb file which got 1~3 minute demo like the ingame cutsense which make by some computer expert, the polygon n graphic not good as the MGS4 but we all must think that this is impossible, right?? 4kb file how come can make a 3 minute demo. Now i m searching for this kind of file demo, will upload it n show it here.
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Dec 14 2008, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 14 2008, 02:15 AM) MGS always use in game cut scene. Only the first demo (non playable) of PS MGS was showing the cut scenes in CGI format. the cutscene in Volta where Ocelot revealed Guns of the Patriots was a CGI.ok continue |
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Dec 14 2008, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 14 2008, 07:04 AM) the cutscene in Volta where Ocelot revealed Guns of the Patriots was a CGI. Hahaha.... this old man is sarcastic and funny.ok continue But, seriously. Although I am convinced that MGS4 is not going to be ported to 360, .... i really have some lingering doubt, I still think 2 - 3 DVD might be able to handle a modified/optimised MGS4. But well no point doing that anyway, if MGS4 awesome experience is going to be stripped down. |
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Dec 14 2008, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 14 2008, 12:56 AM) Do you know how much space does MGS4 take on a BD? It isn't full space I tell ya, it was 30+Gb. Your maths may be great, but you are doing the formula without knowing the figures. sorry missed out dark lenanza's name as well in the post...Added on December 14, 2008, 1:22 am I've never said I've played MGS4 thoroughly. You were poking on the 6 discs issue like it's a fact. I never said you need English lesson. I never called you dumb. I'm starting to believe you are a full HD student now, you extract so much form my posts which never happened. The topic had drawn positive responses until your terrible joke on '6 discs on 360' which you couldn't prove. my bad on that... btw u have any proof on the 30gb+ claimed? cause from the article i've posted, its 50 gig... besides you should know about logical space and the physical space of a storage device itself due to the nature of data structure... QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 14 2008, 01:58 AM) maybe ur mind is not like wat ur saying... sorry i'm nt talking about every malaysian but most...boy...if ps3 got pirate game.. did all gamers buy 1 ori game for Rm200++ or u buy pirate version with multi disc well let say RM70 i bet..most of the people will buy pirate version... it was clearly ps3 dun have any change either than buying ori and..pls laa... dun act liek u were know malaysian 360 kaki.. ur statement show how stupidity u are when saying malaysian gamer not support ori.. if we were not support ori..GH shop will closed down on his 3rd month operation.. BOY Added on December 14, 2008, 2:08 amagain and again... wats wrong with multi disc even the game play is 20 minutes and cut scene event take 100HRS... HD = high dumb its easy to spot them enough in LYN itself.. my 8 ps3 games are ori enough and i dun regret buying them... sony best titles are from 109-129 itself while mgs4 is 199 which is worth my money being able to play on9 etc... QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 14 2008, 02:10 AM) your final revision of your statement are the one that you said you'll LOL if it comes in 6 dvd. my first ever post in the topic was the LOL part...but before that you were saying how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue. heck, you even made a statement that a dvd could not even (if possible its barely) fit 1 act, like you're a ps3 or 360 programmer. i'm claiming you said such thing, because you did said it. still believing disc issue and optimization are the reason mgs4 not coming to 360? one word: naive. i see this is going nowhere, so gonna put a period over it. my e-penis are long enough already that i do not need to argue anymore to make it longer. and till now i never said its impossible... if you cant find such claims in my posts, its time you put a stop to putting a word in my mouth? all those arguments against me are mainly based on the impossible which i nvr claimed... the article i've posted said 5 dual layers dvd to fit 1 blue ray... that is of course if the data is distributed evenly... since most of you are in the IT field to say programmer this programmer that, you should know that data would not be distributed evenly but rather in a more logical point of view and abstraction... my logical point of view if i were to implement it is 1 act in 1 DvD with the epilogue and the MGO in the final DvD... most of wut i've claimed are backed with the links i've posted several post ago... either those in the discussion are ignorant itself to read the links or something else... its so obvious ppl are still claiming this and that when the links i've posted already answered it... QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 14 2008, 07:04 AM) the cutscene in Volta where Ocelot revealed Guns of the Patriots was a CGI. i think the egg breaking/ cooking by sunny in the begining of mission briefings are cutscenes/ real video as well since they look too real to be rendered ingame...ok continue there are several cutscenese in the game that are rendered using the in game engine, not fully ingame itself... QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 14 2008, 09:56 AM) Hahaha.... this old man is sarcastic and funny. if you say fun i can name you so much funner games out there...But, seriously. Although I am convinced that MGS4 is not going to be ported to 360, .... i really have some lingering doubt, I still think 2 - 3 DVD might be able to handle a modified/optimised MGS4. But well no point doing that anyway, if MGS4 awesome experience is going to be stripped down. mgs4 to me excel in the whole experience... its more of an entertainment than a game itself just like kojima envisioned... as i've said, if they want anotehr last remnant on the 360 go ahead... i'm jz saying my concern with it, not insisting that it is impossible... ok continue =p going out later soon... |
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Dec 14 2008, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 14 2008, 07:04 AM) the cutscene in Volta where Ocelot revealed Guns of the Patriots was a CGI. not to mention pixelated ok continue wonder what happened there |
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Dec 14 2008, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 14 2008, 10:35 AM) sorry missed out dark lenanza's name as well in the post... wat..my bad on that... btw u have any proof on the 30gb+ claimed? cause from the article i've posted, its 50 gig... besides you should know about logical space and the physical space of a storage device itself due to the nature of data structure... sorry i'm nt talking about every malaysian but most... its easy to spot them enough in LYN itself.. my 8 ps3 games are ori enough and i dun regret buying them... sony best titles are from 109-129 itself while mgs4 is 199 which is worth my money being able to play on9 etc... my first ever post in the topic was the LOL part... and till now i never said its impossible... if you cant find such claims in my posts, its time you put a stop to putting a word in my mouth? all those arguments against me are mainly based on the impossible which i nvr claimed... the article i've posted said 5 dual layers dvd to fit 1 blue ray... that is of course if the data is distributed evenly... since most of you are in the IT field to say programmer this programmer that, you should know that data would not be distributed evenly but rather in a more logical point of view and abstraction... my logical point of view if i were to implement it is 1 act in 1 DvD with the epilogue and the MGO in the final DvD... most of wut i've claimed are backed with the links i've posted several post ago... either those in the discussion are ignorant itself to read the links or something else... its so obvious ppl are still claiming this and that when the links i've posted already answered it... i think the egg breaking/ cooking by sunny in the begining of mission briefings are cutscenes/ real video as well since they look too real to be rendered ingame... there are several cutscenese in the game that are rendered using the in game engine, not fully ingame itself... if you say fun i can name you so much funner games out there... mgs4 to me excel in the whole experience... its more of an entertainment than a game itself just like kojima envisioned... as i've said, if they want anotehr last remnant on the 360 go ahead... i'm jz saying my concern with it, not insisting that it is impossible... ok continue =p going out later soon... u only had 8?? u can only afford to buy only 8?? im proud owner of 20++ ori title for xbox 360 yet im alaone had 20++ ori xbox 360 when u saying most xbox malaysian is like u know all of them.. but the true is ur HD (highest dumb) more suit to u in this situation... coz as far as i concern... in lyn xbox 360 database all of them were playing ori game... so dont spoke on behalf of US xbox 360 when u really didnt know us.. go and open ur text book.. it more worth than showing ur stupidity here... and yet...if i shifted to pirate...and i buy let say in case mgs4 shifted to 360 20 minutes game play and 100HRS cutscene event... wat the prob with dat...i dont mind paying RM70 for let say 10 disc game for it... and wat ur prob with dt?? jealous coz u paying more since no pirated for ps3?? is dat wat u trying to prove boi?? This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 14 2008, 01:26 PM |
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Dec 14 2008, 02:53 PM
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METAL GEAR ACID FOR iPHONE!!!!!
u heard it from me... |
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Dec 14 2008, 03:33 PM
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Yes alma, we hear it from u.
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Dec 14 2008, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 14 2008, 01:23 PM) wat.. yawns yadda yadda yadda...u only had 8?? u can only afford to buy only 8?? im proud owner of 20++ ori title for xbox 360 yet im alaone had 20++ ori xbox 360 when u saying most xbox malaysian is like u know all of them.. but the true is ur HD (highest dumb) more suit to u in this situation... coz as far as i concern... in lyn xbox 360 database all of them were playing ori game... so dont spoke on behalf of US xbox 360 when u really didnt know us.. go and open ur text book.. it more worth than showing ur stupidity here... and yet...if i shifted to pirate...and i buy let say in case mgs4 shifted to 360 20 minutes game play and 100HRS cutscene event... wat the prob with dat...i dont mind paying RM70 for let say 10 disc game for it... and wat ur prob with dt?? jealous coz u paying more since no pirated for ps3?? is dat wat u trying to prove boi?? until now u haven rebuke all the claims i proved with the links... all u can do is just FLAME and act like a typical fanboy! so officially /ignore welcome to the list and oops, ignored! the final word was mean to be cheers for those who are curious... /emote yawns _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ btw if i'm not wrong, apple is in the process of a new console... who knows? This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 14 2008, 03:44 PM |
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Dec 14 2008, 08:14 PM
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hmmm...
how many days to go ?... |
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Dec 14 2008, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 14 2008, 03:43 PM) yawns yadda yadda yadda... Apple iPlay!!!until now u haven rebuke all the claims i proved with the links... all u can do is just FLAME and act like a typical fanboy! so officially /ignore welcome to the list and oops, ignored! the final word was mean to be cheers for those who are curious... /emote yawns _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ btw if i'm not wrong, apple is in the process of a new console... who knows? |
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Dec 14 2008, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 14 2008, 03:43 PM) yawns yadda yadda yadda... I would feel another N-Gage in the making if Apple decides to venture into gaming industry until now u haven rebuke all the claims i proved with the links... all u can do is just FLAME and act like a typical fanboy! so officially /ignore welcome to the list and oops, ignored! the final word was mean to be cheers for those who are curious... /emote yawns _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ btw if i'm not wrong, apple is in the process of a new console... who knows? |
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Dec 14 2008, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 14 2008, 03:43 PM) yawns yadda yadda yadda... good..until now u haven rebuke all the claims i proved with the links... all u can do is just FLAME and act like a typical fanboy! so officially /ignore welcome to the list and oops, ignored! the final word was mean to be cheers for those who are curious... /emote yawns _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ btw if i'm not wrong, apple is in the process of a new console... who knows? and go away read ur text book... boi |
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Dec 14 2008, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Dec 14 2008, 08:16 PM) Apple iPlay!!! apple do have a huge fanbase...but like all apple products, the price would be |
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Dec 15 2008, 12:16 AM
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OMG... serious?? MGS4 kicked ass... can't wait for this release
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Dec 15 2008, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 14 2008, 11:59 PM) apple do have a huge fanbase... Maybe they would do a MGS for Pippin?but like all apple products, the price would be |
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Dec 15 2008, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 14 2008, 03:43 PM) yawns yadda yadda yadda... You sir....are a classic... until now u haven rebuke all the claims i proved with the links... all u can do is just FLAME and act like a typical fanboy! so officially /ignore welcome to the list and oops, ignored! the final word was mean to be cheers for those who are curious... /emote yawns _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ btw if i'm not wrong, apple is in the process of a new console... who knows?  Lenanza : lets just leave this kids here k...walk away...no need waste time typing essays for "ignorant" people round here. |
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Dec 15 2008, 09:19 PM
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correct..correct..correct
better playin my gow2 coz i need to prepare change 20 disc for cutscene event |
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Dec 17 2008, 11:23 AM
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Dec 17 2008, 11:29 AM
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In that case, that sounds cool.
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Dec 17 2008, 12:31 PM
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Dec 17 2008, 12:38 PM
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lol neogeocdz...
guess our predictions where a little off target for iphone... damn i thot jap love handphone games lol... Added on December 17, 2008, 12:51 pmcome to think about it, the + can be a t This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 17 2008, 12:51 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 01:15 PM
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Dec 17 2008, 03:57 PM
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the teaser for this new game is abit... lame...
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Dec 17 2008, 04:03 PM
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What did i tell ya?
Added on December 17, 2008, 4:05 pmLink CONFIRMED! This post has been edited by almattitude_v1: Dec 17 2008, 04:05 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE Konami Confirms iPhone Metal Gear This post has been edited by almattitude_v1: Dec 17 2008, 04:23 PM The rumour looked pretty solid, but confirmation is always swell. The next Metal Gear game will indeed be on the iPhone, and it's called Metal Gear Solid Touch. What's more, courtesy of Konami we now have some details on the game. It's an original title set in the MGS4 universe, and consists of 8 stages (with the promise of more to be made available later). It's obviously controlled via the touchpad (as opposed to the accelerometer), with a sniping screenshot looking a lot like the iPhone's zoom-in text editing setup. MGS obsessives will be well catered for, with bonus points accrued through gameplay able to be traded in to unlock stuff like Metal Gear iPhone wallpapers. It's due for a worldwide release in Spring 2009. Link |
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Dec 17 2008, 04:34 PM
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UBER COOL! Going to dust off my 3g Iphone.
Going through all that fanboywars in this thread was kinda funny though. |
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Dec 17 2008, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(megajim @ Dec 17 2008, 04:34 PM) UBER COOL! Going to dust off my 3g Iphone. whaaa..you got 3G Iphone? Going through all that fanboywars in this thread was kinda funny though.  This post has been edited by K-End: Dec 17 2008, 04:44 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(K-End @ Dec 17 2008, 04:43 PM) whaaa..you got 3G Iphone? i have 3g ifone! not showing off or anythin la... |
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QUOTE(K-End @ Dec 17 2008, 04:43 PM) whaaa..you got 3G Iphone? Whoa thanks - but no need for respect buddy. The phone aint that great in my opinion. But at least MGS is one more reason to have use the particular gadget.Iphone fanboys - Please dont flame me (knee's shaking). Its just my opinion. LOL. |
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Dec 17 2008, 05:27 PM
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well..whether it great or not, i need to fork out nearly Rm3000 for it if i want one
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Dec 17 2008, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(megajim @ Dec 17 2008, 05:06 PM) Whoa thanks - but no need for respect buddy. The phone aint that great in my opinion. But at least MGS is one more reason to have use the particular gadget. I dunno bout iPhone,Iphone fanboys - Please dont flame me (knee's shaking). Its just my opinion. LOL. i got a Ipod Touch, and it is not as good as my older iPod Nano. Anyway, pretty much confirm MGS is going to iPhone/Pod Touch, but i dun think it is coming to iTunes Malaysia anytime soon. |
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Dec 17 2008, 05:36 PM
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at the moment, it seems that its only for the iPhone... there is no mention of iPod Touch at all...
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Dec 17 2008, 05:47 PM
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actually i'm pretty much impressed by it...
but i wonder how would it capture the control for the stealthing n all... and curious about the storyline being based on mgs4 universe O.o |
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Dec 17 2008, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ Dec 17 2008, 05:36 PM) at the moment, it seems that its only for the iPhone... there is no mention of iPod Touch at all... Ipod Touch is the iPhone without the phone,anything coming to iPhone will work on iPod Touch. |
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Dec 17 2008, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 17 2008, 06:00 PM) Ipod Touch is the iPhone without the phone, Technically yes... But they didnt mention iPod Touch...anything coming to iPhone will work on iPod Touch. QUOTE The rumour looked pretty solid, but confirmation is always swell. The next Metal Gear game will indeed be on the iPhone, and it's called Metal Gear Solid Touch. What's more, courtesy of Konami we now have some details on the game. It's an original title set in the MGS4 universe, and consists of 8 stages (with the promise of more to be made available later). It's obviously controlled via the touchpad (as opposed to the accelerometer), with a sniping screenshot looking a lot like the iPhone's zoom-in text editing setup. MGS obsessives will be well catered for, with bonus points accrued through gameplay able to be traded in to unlock stuff like Metal Gear iPhone wallpapers. It's due for a worldwide release in Spring 2009. I agree with u, but there is no mention of iPod Touch... im not saying ur wrong, but the writer on Kotaku should have said it... i mean, im pretty sure its coming for iPod Touch too... This post has been edited by almattitude_v1: Dec 17 2008, 06:53 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 06:51 PM
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So much for the wars betwen XBOTS and SDF.... hehehehe
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Dec 17 2008, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ Dec 17 2008, 06:48 PM) Technically yes... But they didnt mention iPod Touch... It is understood. I agree with u, but there is no mention of iPod Touch... im not saying ur wrong, but the writer on Kotaku should have said it... i mean, im pretty sure its coming for iPod Touch too... When it is coming to iPhone, it is also coming to iPod Touch. It is just like XBOX 360 Elite & XBOX 360 Arcade, Elite is the 360 with huge HDD, Arcade is the 360 without HDD. So when MS announced a game, he doesn't need to say Halo 3 is now on XBOX 360 Elite & Arcade, just XBOX 360 will do. iPod Touch is the iPhone without the Phone. Same logic. http://www.edge-online.com/news/iphone-cap...ear-solid-touch edited with link added This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 17 2008, 07:10 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Dec 17 2008, 06:51 PM) So much for the wars betwen XBOTS and SDF.... hehehehe jz curious, wut's SDF? O.oAdded on December 17, 2008, 7:49 pmand btw its for both the iphone and the ipod touch http://www.gamespot.com/news/6202410.html?...adlines;title;1 This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 17 2008, 07:49 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 09:15 PM
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Dec 17 2008, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(lapaq @ Dec 17 2008, 06:51 PM) So much for the wars betwen XBOTS and SDF.... hehehehe Yes indeed...it was a brutal war we had, men on both sides suffered terrible losses....Microsoft loyalists were so happy to see the game coming and the SDF were pissed that the game was coming out for the Xbox... In the end...the fight was futile...the war was futile ANYWAY Hideo is a sly little *******...i still think theres something big going on ...hes just hiding it away |
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Dec 17 2008, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(Hitman190 @ Dec 17 2008, 09:26 PM) Yes indeed... not much a surprise...it was a brutal war we had, men on both sides suffered terrible losses....Microsoft loyalists were so happy to see the game coming and the SDF were pissed that the game was coming out for the Xbox... In the end...the fight was futile...the war was futile ANYWAY Hideo is a sly little *******...i still think theres something big going on ...hes just hiding it away kojima is vocal about it: -  damn SDF's website is jz so bias n funny... never knew such lvl of fanboyism existed... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 17 2008, 10:26 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 17 2008, 10:22 PM) not much a surprise... If this is a good game, swap 100k of cd or dvd i also dun mind to do it.....kojima is vocal about it: - damn SDF's website is jz so bias n funny... never knew such lvl of fanboyism existed... This post has been edited by nakata101: Dec 17 2008, 10:43 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Dec 17 2008, 10:43 PM) If this is a good game, swap 100k of cd or dvd i also dun mind to do it..... again its up to kojima...if the gamers dun mind swapping, i dun see anything wrong wit it... still i LOL at all those - its for the 360 (the green, the 360 turn and the OMG look like my 360 power button) - why should port to 360 - xbots flamers (looks at my ignore list) - NPD figures This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 17 2008, 11:19 PM |
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Dec 18 2008, 09:30 AM
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Dec 18 2008, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(kazasho @ Dec 18 2008, 09:30 AM) wow at silent hill! |
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Dec 18 2008, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Dec 17 2008, 09:15 PM) That is valuable if u have it.Yep, it sux big time when it came out. I remember games magazine reviled it big time when it came out, worst than 32X, 3DO & Jaguar. |
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Dec 18 2008, 11:44 AM
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Only the sony people are left now. Sad.
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Dec 18 2008, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(megajim @ Dec 18 2008, 11:44 AM) Only the sony people are left now. Sad. guess so O.othough i'm nt really a ps3 fanboy (dun even know SDF lol) |
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Dec 18 2008, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 18 2008, 12:15 PM) guess so O.o Sony D**khead Fans?though i'm nt really a ps3 fanboy (dun even know SDF lol) Who knows. I own all current gen consoles - no love loss here. How bout MGS for the PC again? I RIKE that! |
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Dec 18 2008, 12:42 PM
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SDF.... should be Sony Defence Force or something.
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Dec 18 2008, 12:49 PM
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SUPER DIMENSION FOTRESS
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Dec 18 2008, 01:39 PM
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Zzz.. ever heard about the wolf who cant get the grapes... in the end he just assumed that the grapes are sour cause he couldn't get them. same goes to all xbox 360 and sony ps3 fanboys... both are equally as good if u compare the pros and cons
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Dec 18 2008, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE You’re excited by the prospect of Metal Gear Solid on the iPhone, are you?. You may be less excited about the reality of Metal Gear Solid on the iPhone. Take a close look at those screens. One shows Snake standing behind a wall of sandbags, shooting at bad guys. The other shows a zoomed-in view of Snake shooting at bad guys. They don't show him sneaking, they don't show him blending into a wall, they don't show him punching some unlucky sap in the cock. You know why? Because it sounds like shooting is all you'll be doing. The same Famitsu article that broke the news yesterday also has a few details on the game that the press release neglected to mention. They boil down to this: you don't control Snake's movement. All you do is swipe your fingers around to aim, then tap the screen to shoot. It's Duck Hunt. Or, if you will, Snake's Crossbow Training. Not that this is a bad thing! Kojima says in the article that the team originally considered a stealthy game, but decided (WISELY) that the iPhone isn't up to the task controls-wise, and went with something simpler. Should make for a less frustrating experience, but still, that won't ease the crushing disappointment iPhone owners hoping for a "proper" MGS game will be feeling. |
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Dec 18 2008, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(DeVGF @ Dec 18 2008, 01:39 PM) Zzz.. ever heard about the wolf who cant get the grapes... in the end he just assumed that the grapes are sour cause he couldn't get them. same goes to all xbox 360 and sony ps3 fanboys... both are equally as good if u compare the pros and cons SDF = sony defense force...they website is the most bias website i've ever seen... anywas i find halo 2 and 3 bad but GoW and GoW2 is really good... |
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Dec 18 2008, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 18 2008, 05:51 PM) SDF = sony defense force... Control wise, nothing beat RE4 Wii,they website is the most bias website i've ever seen... anywas i find halo 2 and 3 bad but GoW and GoW2 is really good... that is how a shooter suppose to play. Halo & Gears are nice, and play tight, but control is no where near RE4 Wii. Oppss.... i hope i won't get flamed till kingdom come by saying this out here... i normally says this in the peaceful kingdom that is Marioland. (Nintendo forum la) |
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Dec 18 2008, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 18 2008, 06:45 PM) Control wise, nothing beat RE4 Wii, oh RE4 for wii is king!that is how a shooter suppose to play. Halo & Gears are nice, and play tight, but control is no where near RE4 Wii. Oppss.... i hope i won't get flamed till kingdom come by saying this out here... i normally says this in the peaceful kingdom that is Marioland. (Nintendo forum la) i kinda agree... my fren is sitll raving about it... |
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Dec 22 2008, 08:20 AM
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for this metal gear...
u guys saw the MGS4 LBP trailer ? Little + Big = Planet =( ) This post has been edited by unrealweapon: Dec 22 2008, 08:22 AM |
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Dec 22 2008, 01:00 PM
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lol...
i just love the title... paints of the patriots, tactical espionage splatter! mgs4 lbp makes me wanna grab the game! |
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Dec 22 2008, 02:05 PM
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so the shit has finally hit the fan and the hopeless romantics have left the room.
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Dec 22 2008, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Dec 22 2008, 02:05 PM) so the shit has finally hit the fan and the hopeless romantics have left the room. together with the NPDs |
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Dec 23 2008, 10:02 AM
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^^
well it only left hopeless student who cannot afford to buy multiple disc like ^ above who still roaring around here talk big i own 8 ps3 game... lol.. 8 title for ps3 is like 1 game to me for MGS if it came out for xbox 360 coz of multiple disc... i can afford it... not such big fuss talk here well live must goes on even for hopeless studet/HD so called bois This post has been edited by dark lenanza: Dec 23 2008, 10:04 AM |
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Dec 24 2008, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 23 2008, 10:02 AM) ^^ u sound like an typical redneck, dude. mellow out...well it only left hopeless student who cannot afford to buy multiple disc like ^ above who still roaring around here talk big i own 8 ps3 game... lol.. 8 title for ps3 is like 1 game to me for MGS if it came out for xbox 360 coz of multiple disc... i can afford it... not such big fuss talk here well live must goes on even for hopeless studet/HD so called bois neways, isn't it obvious they'll just port mgs4 over to 360? metal gear solid touh looks enticing... |
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Dec 24 2008, 01:45 PM
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ok..ok
wont argue anymore.. but need 1 good answer wats wrong with multi disc?? |
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Dec 24 2008, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 23 2008, 10:02 AM) ^^ see, flaming fanboys will always be a flaming fanboy...well it only left hopeless student who cannot afford to buy multiple disc like ^ above who still roaring around here talk big i own 8 ps3 game... lol.. 8 title for ps3 is like 1 game to me for MGS if it came out for xbox 360 coz of multiple disc... i can afford it... not such big fuss talk here well live must goes on even for hopeless studet/HD so called bois well i am a student and i dun wanna spend my parent's money on games i dun need (+ i'm playing warhammer), simple as that... and i dun think i was talking big since i know 8 games are ntg to be compared to all those games other owned... at least i did nt resort to piracy or claiming i have 20 games, etc... old uncle, remember that u are married so i would expect a much more matured reply from u rather than mindless flames (i refrain from using 'brainless')... i dun feel threaten at all with u calling me all those colloquial forms of 'boy' in fact so i still wonder why u keep repeating it? it only degrade ur mentality further la uncle... imagine wut would ur kids think when they saw all u post is jz flames like a typical teenage fanboy? PS: calling u uncle jz to show respect since i'm humbled by u calling me boy... PS v2: as for the ignore list, i gotta give my elders a chance so old ppl are removed... Added on December 24, 2008, 2:49 pmbtw, check out gamespot's editor award, mgs4 won lots of awards (in fact it won every award for the special archievement section that it is listed)... who need 30+ games when i'm enjoying a really good game rite? This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 24 2008, 02:54 PM |
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Dec 24 2008, 05:21 PM
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oke..oke
my last reply if i dont get solid answer i just left it wats wrong with multi disc? |
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Dec 24 2008, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 24 2008, 05:21 PM) oke..oke should we really start again?my last reply if i dont get solid answer i just left it wats wrong with multi disc? since u asked, i'll keep it short for the one final last time: - FINAL DISCLAIMER (i'm sick of repeating myself) that i said i'll LOL if mgs4 is ported into 6 DvDs... I NEVER SAID ITS IMPOSSIBLE or its WRONG... (my disclaimer should answer ur question) i've already stated my arguments (from the huge amount of content which kojima even cutted out jz to fit into a dual layered blue ray, kojima being vocal about the whole porting issue including in kojima's hint in the cutscene favoring blueray, the cost of multi discs with porting work, fitting the contents and MGO into appropriate disc and so on) in several posts in the thread together with a post full with links to support my argument (which sitll now no1 talked about it hmmm)... and finally my conclusion that: if multi disc is fine wit u gamers, go on wit it if the gamers (360 owners) is ok wit it though if that do happen, i doubt metal gear online would fit in... i've not edited my post till nw, so u are feel free to read and judge my posts... to end it with some math: - a dual layer blue ray = 50 gig a dual layer DvD = around 8gig thus on direct diversion, its 6 dual layer DvD to fit all the contents... but we all do know that some layers/ textures/ items/ music file (ipod tracks) are reusable in various acts and of course MGO thus mutltiple copies of these data would need to be on several DvDs thus it wont be a surprise that it would be more than 6 DvDs especially when we look at data structures (storing logical data physically on the medium)... again, if the gamers dun mind paying for the game which would be much costlier due to multidisc OR playing the game even when it is toned down due to various restrictions and optimization (look at Rise of the Aggronauts and Last Remnants framerate issues) OR changing disc THEN the porting is not an issue... as a fan of the series, it would suck for me to see the porting of MGS4 getting bad reviews... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 24 2008, 05:51 PM |
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Dec 25 2008, 12:20 AM
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harharhar...
no a solid answer but it really waste my time... replying the same again and again happy holiday and happy playing ur game guys |
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Dec 25 2008, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 25 2008, 12:20 AM) harharhar... lol if its not solid, show me where it is not solid (and maybe solid snake would be amaze)...no a solid answer but it really waste my time... replying the same again and again happy holiday and happy playing ur game guys rather than jz claiming it... actually that's all u really do in this thread eh? if u keep asking me the same question, i would keep answering the same answer which u cant rebuke... happy holidays!!! and to a great gaming year ahead... This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 25 2008, 12:33 AM |
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Dec 25 2008, 11:58 AM
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tak kisah dipanggil boy tp bangkit kan dlm post , lepas tu dia panggil uncle kt org , tak ke sama je tu . apa la korang ni . dlm forum pun nk gaduh. aku baca pun tergelak je. selalu aku tk reply benda2 bodoh mcm ni , tp kadang2 aku rs nk jugak reply sbb tk tahan.
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QUOTE(esca_flo @ Dec 25 2008, 11:58 AM) tak kisah dipanggil boy tp bangkit kan dlm post , lepas tu dia panggil uncle kt org , tak ke sama je tu . apa la korang ni . dlm forum pun nk gaduh. aku baca pun tergelak je. selalu aku tk reply benda2 bodoh mcm ni , tp kadang2 aku rs nk jugak reply sbb tk tahan. Kerana you bodoh |
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Dec 25 2008, 12:40 PM
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lol seriously...
as i've claimed, i'm calling him uncle due to respect... the age difference is there and since he's been repeating it so often, its ntg wrong... i never shoot/ flame him for being old etc... so i think u are a little too sensitive? even dark_lenanza had no problem with the uncle issue... as i've said, i'm not threaten by all of the colluqial forms of 'boy' but i do admit its pretty annoying... ps: ur BM is pretty hard to understand bro... ps v2: there was no 'gaduh'... it was a discussion as i see it (no vulgarities or personal attacks from my part as well) ps v3: and why others always go for personal attacks on me rather than on my points? This post has been edited by evofantasy: Dec 25 2008, 12:42 PM |
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Dec 25 2008, 06:14 PM
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guys
pls laaa stop enjoy u game wehh not everyday is a holiday  |
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Dec 25 2008, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 25 2008, 06:14 PM) guys lol...pls laaa stop enjoy u game wehh not everyday is a holiday its pretty much for me (3 months)... xmas go out enjoy la... dun stay at home... merry xmas btw XD |
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Feb 12 2009, 11:22 PM
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metal gear or battle gear
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Feb 12 2009, 11:30 PM
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spammer...
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Feb 13 2009, 02:19 AM
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will there b a nex mgs isnt 4 the final
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Feb 13 2009, 09:13 AM
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MGS4 is final for Snake-yes.
if they intend to make a new Metal Gear probaly they will propose a new main character e.g. Sunny to become new MG character then the title will be call Metal Gear Sunny 1. |
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Feb 13 2009, 10:23 AM
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is this for the Xbox? cuz the sign looks liek a xbox=.=
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Feb 13 2009, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Feb 13 2009, 10:23 AM) is this for the Xbox? cuz the sign looks liek a xbox=.= its confirmed for ipod touch (T = touch)...well mgs4 answers every question i've had for the series, so they'll need to comeup with something new (mostly will to milk $$$)... as for the troll necromancer (if only they had such class in WoW), i've reported him for spamming 1 liner in every single thread last nite... |
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Feb 13 2009, 11:20 AM
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i just started playing the MGS series now trying to finish twin snakes.i will only play mgs4 when i complete all 3 of the series 1st and also the on the psp (portable ops)
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