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multiple disc is certainly possible, even back in PSOne days we had it much worse..... anyone remember Fear Effect?

A four-disc game with only roughly one-disc worth of gameplay, mutilple disc-swapping in the midst of one level!!
Worse, if u die then sometimes you have to swap disc too before u can retry and wait hell-long for game to load.

But i guess most sony fanboys got short term memory, so pls stop it with this multiple disc crap.... it doesn't make a game better or worse if it comes in mutilple discs. Fear Effect 1&2 was one heck of a game (for me) and i would still gladly swap disc in order to replay it now.

Go play your 3DO la!
I got Shigeru number u want or not? 1-800-88-2525. LOL 

If i remember clearly the game " D no Shokutaku" on 3DO also come with 2 or 3 disc.
Panzer Dragoon Saga on Saturn also come with multiple disc, RE4 on GC also come with 2 disc....
Since when it became a problem all of a sudden? 
Or actually people "decided" to think it is a problem now. 

and drop the financial statistic...you're not getting rich by it anyways

if konami is all about the money, the porting would not earn them that much...
its been stated that developing a game on the ps3 is way dufferent compare to other console thus the porting would be hard...
wut more after all the optimization done for the game...
as for multiple dual layer disc, the price would be high for konami to make big $$$...
and lets face it, most msia 360 owners do not buy much original game and imagine how much it would cost u jack sparrow for the mgs4 port...

besides mgs2 was ported to xbox and the response was superbly good but the sales was not good at all...
Kojima stated this before as well when ppl where asking for the 360 version in one of his interview and he was not happy with it at all about wut happened...
once bitten, twice shy...

multidisc is about changing and the cost...

mgs4 excel at the whole experience and changing disc from time to time is really ruining the experience...

how many copies did bioshock sell on the ps3?
i dunno any sales figure sites

- Sony's ICO development team has confirmed that a new title is under development, they plan to reveal the title in near future. The team has also revealed the worldwide sales of ICO, which is around 650,000 copies; and the breakdown is as follows:

* USA (09/26/01) - 250,000 units
* Japan (12/06/01) - 160,000 units
* Asia (01/13/02) - 20,000 units
* South Korea (02/22/02) - 20,000 units
* Europe (03/20/02) - 200,000 units

What?
It doesn't make sense at all.
What makes u conclude that "most PS3 owner that have mid-end PS bought BioShock"?
What is the reason u employ? Any source u quoted?

The reason is simple, PS3 have smaller user base, hence it sold less. Period.

this discussion is about would mgs be on another console and i was merely pointing out how hard is it for mgs4 to be ported to 360 particularly the content issue...
thus the whole disc changing in my argument is about mgs4 since generalization is not needed since i am talking bout mgs4 which is the currently only game which have problem fitting all its content into a single blueray disc...
if hd-dvd is sitll around, then its possible by all ways...
and again for the 3rd time, did u actually played mgs4 as u stated which is the first thing you questioned my credibility?

as for those citing multi platform games selling better on 360 than ps3: -
1. - its obvious that these multiplatform games are not long running big fanbase series like mgs and most mgs fan already got their ps3 and finished the whole game. you can never compare the sales of a exclusive game with a generic multiplatform game
2. - 360 have more owners than ps3, thus the 360 version would sell more based on common sense
3. - most of the multi platform games you all cited are FPS, as we do know the 360 appeal to FPS fans
4. - some games like bioshock has already been out on the 360 and pc months b4 the ps3 version, so obviously most ps3 owners had played it on the pc or 360 (lots of 360 owners do own a ps3 as well)?

1. i'm not their programmer but i READ on how developers commenting on the difficulties... seriously all those saying programmer this programmer that, i am a comp science student and i know the technical in general and porting but not specific till the consoles in discussion... i never said multidisc was impossible, i stated that i would LOL if its 6 dvds for mgs4 on 360 and defended it saying the issues concerning multidisc... did u guys even bother to read my whole post?

1. why only the US? demographically, US have more 360...

2. version of the same game, released at the same time have more 360 buyers... wanna bet the port of the mgs4 if it happens would sell less than the ps3 version then?

3. as i've said, more owners of 360 = more sales... u can make a survey on FPS gamers and compare the number for 360 and the ps3

4. true but not many ppl buy a GC jz for RE4 unlike mgs4

sure my boss ask me to do something that would take a LOT of time and resource i'll still do it...
but dun u think the project managers will evaluate the ROI first b4 starting the project and the whole SDLC?
the cost of porting would it be worth the return and the risk?
bosses of such corporate would not as foolish as the bosses you claimed and they do listen to their underline...

1. Shouldn't it be worldwide then? we all do know 360 is strong in the US and the world does not only revolve around the US

2. its on with me... if you loose, you do the same as well?

3. and 4. bigger userbase but do the userbase all love the series/ genre? its like saying wii got the biggest userbase of all the consoles out there and thus EVERY game should be on wii... look at the whole picture will ya?

3. and 4. bigger userbase but do the userbase all love the series/ genre? its like saying wii got the biggest userbase of all the consoles out there and thus EVERY game should be on wii... look at the whole picture will ya? userbase ain't everything...

thing is ff7 is long (i think ff7 was 3 disc is it)...
the disc is pretty much proportional to the content...
on the other hand mgs4's content is pretty little...

then explain wii which is the best selling console?
shouldn't every game be there?
Most developer are banking on X360 and PS3 prior to the launch based on specs. They were shocked when Wii became the best sellin. They are retryfying it by bringing more games like Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest.

the first few console you mentioned are the only console of that time...
in the ps era, the console war would not even exist and its pretty much the main console there...
I donno what have you been smoking but have you herad of Sega and their console Saturn? N64 lost pretty much earlier because it was release 1 year late and necause NINTENDO STUPIDITY which I would not explain

in the ps2 era, most games are on the ps2 BECAUSE developers had problem fitting games into the cattridges early on and programming was easier on the ps2 (catch the trend)? but of the late, the xbox pretty much catch up despite the HUGE ps2 userbase... so databse ain't everything...
What cartridge problem? During PS2 all are using disc already. XBox never catch up ok. We are talking 100 million vs 20++ million

1. so worldwide? fair enough rite? if not its pretty much 1 sided...
FF13 are released on 360 only in USA. We have to compare Apples with Apples. Not Apples with Oranges.
Compare sales in US with Sales in US.
Hmm, maybe you should put that siggy now 

3. 4. if that huge userbase would play the game i would developt, sure i'll choose the bigger userbase... but if my game would sell better among the small userbase, u tell me which would i choose...
the new dragonball game was launch on the ps2 instead of the ps3 or the 360 because most fans of the series still own the ps2 and would play it...
ROFL, you are basically agreeying with me. PS2 userbase is 100 million and 360 WITH PS3 only around 35 million

bigger userbase/ market share means ntg...
Edited. And yet you put that Dragonball arguement   

wut would u expect from other 360 players when they even have to change multiple disc?

1. the n64 was using catridge...
thus they developers flock to the psx thus killing the n64...
since u know so much about the gaming industry, this should not be a surprise for u since its the first major failure nitendo had...

2. how big is a blueray size that had trouble fitting mgs4?
how big is a 360HD?
u would answer urself bout the whole install into the 360 thingy...
and dun tell me, u uninstall everything from ur 360's HD just for mgs4 and then need to reinstall settings, etc for your other games...
if you wanna install, might as well port it to the PC and not a next-gen console...

3. in mgs4, u change the disc and continue watching, not playing...
and the cutscenese are interleaved into the game btw, u dun get loading time after a cutscene into gameplay since the cutscenes itself is ingame...

4. well if u all insist that mgs4 would be on 360, continue at it...
i'm grown lazy from talking to ppl who know nothing about the next-gen war, the consoles, the game and wut the developer said about the porting of the game itself...
i've already said wut i needed (google a bit more and its not hard to understand) and we'll see wut happen in the future...

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Added on December 13, 2008, 5:39 pm

stop making a full of urself with all ur nonsense trolling/ flames...
the HD in my context is high distinction, not high definition
all of ur points are jz statements for the point of stating, argument for the sake of arguing...

in the ps2 era, most games are on the ps2 BECAUSE developers had problem fitting games into the cattridges early on and programming was easier on the ps2 (catch the trend)? but of the late, the xbox pretty much catch up despite the HUGE ps2 userbase... so databse ain't everything...