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neogeocdz
post Dec 10 2008, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 10 2008, 04:50 PM)
It is easy to understand as long as you have a brain smile.gif
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Gundam, he has a PS3,
and his PS3 is more powerful than his brain. doh.gif

Actually we should ask him to consult his PS3 before he post any reply,
it would make more sense.

Perhaps the post could win him a Nobel Literature Prize next year.
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post Dec 10 2008, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2008, 04:55 PM)
Now now. Lets not start something over here. we're older and wiser than our counterparts before. remember,

Weak dogs bark the loudest. smile.gif
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Sorry Kyo,
my bad my bad.

I duly delivered my heartfelt apology to the Civilized Gamers Society.
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post Dec 10 2008, 05:42 PM

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Yes. Although I am looking forward to RE5 on 360, I still feel that an entirely new RE build on RE4 wii control scheme will be the best game ever.

Agree with Jen. No game's control comes close to RE4 Wii, not even Gears of War 2 and Halo 3, sorry 360 fans.

I played RE4 on GameCube, yet i felt pleasantly surprised when I played the RE4 on Wii.
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post Dec 10 2008, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(zio @ Dec 10 2008, 07:35 PM)
As much as I would like to say great discussion, but I fail to see the point of this for the past 7 pages. Sure, numbers can be important but surely, if you care about the numbers, you would have read it long before it was even posted here.

So, what does this thread do? Lure the fanboys in? And then we wait for the "Civilized Gamers Society" to walk in and poke them around? Mods have closed threads like this before because it absolutely serves zero purpose, other than the first post (which allowed me to learn something new).

After that, all I see is someone who will come in with a remark that Wii is subpar and then the arguments on why Nintendo is superior arises. Someone quotes the "graphic is almighty rule" and then someone will go "Oh motion control and Nintendo saved the game industry", someone will go on and say "Kiddy games" and then talks on cultural icons will surface.

How many times do we have to dance the same dance? Over and over and over again. One would have thought people would have gotten tired of this.

I now leave you to your discussion. My rant of the day is complete. smile.gif
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Very enlighten you seems.
But does this thread have to "do something" for it to serve a purpose?
I beg to differ.

You must have spent a lot of times reading this discussion, looking at your post.
Perhaps you should not have read this if it bother you these much.

Going by your logic it seems to me that you should have quit your gaming hobby and stop visiting Console Couch.
Console Couch has always served minimal purpose as well,
besides it is a great place for discussion, brain storming, and perhaps some reflections and amateur analysis.
If news are all you seek, IGN, EDGE, Kotaku are you place. Not here.

The whole gaming as a hobby, serve ZERO purpose besides making profit for shareholders.
Yes you've saved Princes Peach, but did terrorist stop killing innocent people?
Yes you have sunk Jacinto, but did the Credit Crunch suddenly became history?
No, hence it serve no purpose.

The discussion started really well, and people have great times discussing initially,
until certain people start insulting others.

If you are not agreeable with some of our comment,
you are always welcome to rebuke us, with reasons of course.
Writing off the whole discussion by calling this thread "Serving No Purpose",
does not make the points that you are unable accept goes away.

Having a great time discussing, exchanging view in a Civilised way,
are all we strive to do here.
No, i don't visit LYN to serve any purpose,
I come here to have a good time discussing with friends.

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post Dec 10 2008, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 08:35 PM)
yah, dont take thing so seriously ma, treat it like some buddies simple talking over the mamak stall, there is no winner or loser over the debate, just simple neutral discussion to exchange opinions smile.gif No harm right?

Btw, aside from discussion like this, this is where i look for games impression too smile.gif So i know what games to buy...
It doesnt have to be RE5, it's can be any shooting games, as long as the gameplay are the same as RE4, and yeah, is amazing, not even the new Dead Space which play so similar. How i hope i am using the wiimote and nunchuk smile.gif
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Yes yes! That is what I feel when I played Gears of War 2,
i said to myself -- How nice if i can use Wiimote & nun-chuck.

There is a very short game from Nintendo - Link Cross Bow Training.
Nintendo has done a really good FPS in Zelda setting.
The control is pretty tight, and addictive as well.
But the problem is it is too short. It felt more like a tech-demo.
So i don't recommend you to get it.

Other than that, you have already tried COD WAW,
so far from the feedback i heard, it is very good.
Comment said that it got tight control, but i haven't tried it personally.

RE 4 & Umbrella Chronicles should be the good one.
House of Dead is definitely excellent, waiting for Overkill.
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post Dec 10 2008, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 10:26 PM)
Umbrella is fun... great use of onrail shooter. Same goes to HotD although the graphic may be quite outdated, is still fun smile.gif

COD:WAW, personally, i think it got the best graphic over wii, quite dinamic and nice. Played it till the end. Great control compare to PS3 controller pad. smile.gif
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OK, i take this as a recommendation to get a Wii version.
Because I am still undecided whether to get 360 or Wii,
I already tilted towards getting a Wii version coz I fear the 360 version might have uninspiring control,
and might played too much like COD4.

For House of Dead... haha, Wii one looks better than DreamCast,
and played MUCH better!

I think many of us Wii gamers are too pamper by RE4 Wii controls,
everytime a shooters came out, we will be disappointed because it is not as good as RE4 Wii.
Agree?

Capcom is really genius, besides RE4 Wii-make,
their Okami Wii-make is very very excellent.
Wii control basically transformed the gameplay, and speed up the progress.
The whole Okami played much tighter because of the control.
The PS2 version is already excellent, Wii-make is simply fabulous.
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post Dec 11 2008, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(zio @ Dec 10 2008, 11:35 PM)
I come here for good discussions as well, and I have had my share of fun in the various kopitiams and random chat threads that were opened across console couch.

So, yes, to me, every thread serves a purpose, whether it is to share views and experiences with a particular game (ie individual game threads), or console buying advice (which exists in every sub-forum). This thread could have served its purpose, but wouldn't you agree that discussion about the Wii and how great it is can be shared in the Nintendo sub-forum?

I don't specfically go to a Canon forum and scream, damn Nikon won these awards! So, while I appreciate the insights I gained from reading the past 7 pages, I would also think that piece of news could have gone into one of the many threads that are already available. Which therefore, brings me to my point that this thread serves no purpose because it could have done its job as a simple post in another thread.

As for your whole gaming hobby serves no purpose, aww, you don't feel that being entertained is a purpose? That in itself is why I play games. After all, if I am not entertained, why bother playing? Not all purposes have to be big and lofty so I don't envision myself solving world hunger just because I completed Cooking Mama. In fact, I can't even fry an egg after completing Cooking Mama, but I was thoroughly entertained.

And typing long posts like this is fun to me. So indulge me for the moment yah? smile.gif
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Yes, exactly what I am telling you,
we were entertained, hence it serves a purpose.
You've suggested that this thread serves no purpose,
so I thought you opined that entertainment is not a purpose?
If entertainment is not a purpose to you, gaming will have zero value for u.

If this thread indeed has to move to Nintendo sub-forum,
we thank you for informing us.
But at the same time i am puzzled as well, looking at titles listed on main page, (http://forum.lowyat.net/ConsolesCouch)
there are PSP and PS3 centric discussion which you have graciously ignored,
while this Wii centric title alone become your target?
Do i sense unfairness?

No most of us do not scream Wii success,
we discuss, we ponder, and we expound on its' success.
However it saddened me that there are certain factions that obviously took offense at Wii success,
and started to use filthy languages to ridicule others.
Don't u think these are the behaviour that you should condemned, instead of the lesser evil of "post in incorrect sub-forum"?

Your very first thread in this discussion included fair amount of sarcasm towards forumers,
i would suggest that you don't engage in this thread if you find it offensive or meaningless.
Many of us have had fun, and i am sorry if you don't.

If you don't mind, me and the other gentlemen would like to continue the discussion.
Hitman190 have had some insightful comments, which i agreed totally.
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post Dec 11 2008, 11:00 AM

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LOL, Hey u all.

U quote Wii kena me, u quote 360 also kena me. So pain.... tongue.gif
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post Dec 12 2008, 06:17 PM

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I think we better let this thread die,
didn't you see how ugly it turned?

We post the new topic in Nintendo forum la,
that Nov 08 NPD numbers are the perfect ingredient to start a World War 3.

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post Dec 27 2008, 04:55 AM

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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 26 2008, 10:59 PM)
PS3 sucks!! rclxs0.gif

I'm not kidding tongue.gif Get 2 jobs my @$$  doh.gif  How arrogant can you get?

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/07/06/sony-wan...-playstation-3/

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3141864
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Corez.... u ah...
u have to provoke so directly is it? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 09:21 AM

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I am very puzzled by the continuos claim that Wii has no hardcore games. I really don't want to waste my time counting hardcore games one by one, for Wii-Haters, they will always argued the games you listed are not hardcore.

Also, honestly I don't see casual gaming "flooding" the market on Wii. Wii just have got more games, hence chances of shovelware is much higher. Look at PS2. The winning console always get more craps, no?

The losing console will always have the "best" library, consist of mostly quality games. Look at GameCube & PS3. Cause nobody dare to try new thing on a small user base, and the console owner will published more good games to win customers.

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post Dec 31 2008, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(technophile @ Dec 31 2008, 09:23 AM)
u forgot about dreamcast and saturn bro.
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Saturn, Dreamcast, yep yep. Correct.


Added on December 31, 2008, 11:19 am
QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 31 2008, 10:12 AM)
actually I tend to stay out of these catfights but...

where? and who post that?

My GC was sold after I finised Twin Snakes but for PS3, have you tried, Eye of Judgement, LBP,Super Rub A Dub? Those are innovative games.
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Read the thread carefully, i am not wasting my time repeating.

Also, I hope that you address the point I raised if u believe otherwise,
and not picking sidelines and avoid the main issues i said.

Thanks for your info on you selling your GC. I did not.

I also need to further elaborate my point,
Eye of Judgement, LBP, Super Rub A Dub all First Party right?
Who would take risk with PS3 besides SONY?
First party would always try harder, that is why GC being a sinking ship,
u see many great titles from Nintendo.


Edited to avoid further cat-fight, toned down language
Edited - Remove the word "A Lot", because it has mislead people.

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post Dec 31 2008, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Dec 31 2008, 12:48 PM)
bro, what do u mean by A LOT of great titles from nintendo? the amount is almost the same as 1st party ps3 and xbox titles.
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I have replaced the Word "A Lot" with "Many",
does that sounds more neutral?

Now u can address the issues i raised?
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post Dec 31 2008, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 31 2008, 12:58 PM)
And i tot this topic should be dead by now... who the bad boy bring this back up lol

Relax neogeocdz, they are all pros and cons in every progression of each single console.

I just finished some ps3 games yesterday, those tops games rated above 9.0 from most rating site.

Sometimes, i wonder, what make the other console games much more appeal to me than those games in wii. (Must stress this, very personal opinion here). For me, i think is the production of the game. Let's look at 2 different games, MGS4 (PS3) and Mario Galaxy(wii). Both are very high rated game for eachh platform, played differently and had beed exclusive for their respective cnsole.

Now you might think MGS4 is much more fun cause its come from an HD console? Not really, i dont find MGS4 really that appealing in sense of gameplay, etc. same goes to Mario galaxy. But then, is up to individual taste.

I am not a MGS fans, never like stealth games, and I am not mario fan too, never really like the mario gameplay too (SMG or mario paper). But when picking a game which you might not like (Say you dont have much games to play anymore), i will go for MGS4 all the way. At least by watching the cinematic worth every penny i paid for that game. That just again my personal view.

Fans will always support each of their console, put the fans aside, we got ourselves with people who prefer what they will enjoy in each of their game.

And for the last time, the question for why wii dominate? How wouldnt they dominate? THey are meant for everybody. Ps3/xbox360 are mostly meant for gamers, but wii? Is meant for everyone..... Imagine wii as the rice cooker, is started to become a dominating household appliances. smile.gif Kudos to wii for their success, I already stop thinking about wii trying to get mature or adult or aggresive games, as long as wii continue to serve it purpose, we all can hope 3-5 years from now, there is at least a toy/videogame console which is suitable for our beloved children smile.gif
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haha,
i always look these tense up?

Yes, i agree.
Just because I love my Wii & 360, it doesn't makes PS3 stinks.
LBP is a game i really like to try, but no money for a new console for now.

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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 01:04 PM)
BWT, most of the ps3 and xbox are made by third party, Sony may have some, like god of war and gran turismo. While nintendo has so much 1st party, made by nintendo them self.
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That is right.
Nintendo's titles always sold well, because Nintendo is a great video game maker.
During the GC days, Nintendo almost became the only viable publisher on GC, cause GC's sales stinks.
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Dec 31 2008, 01:10 PM)
Jenniferjen...u're like me..we both bought the wii first but then migrated to the ps3.  nod.gif Why? Coz i think my reason is the same as u n i need not elaborate further. I still keep the wii n wait for some decent title to my liking comes along again (eg: like RE4, zelda n metroid smile.gif )

@neogeo,
yes..u do look that tense  laugh.gif
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OK OK, I will cool down cool down....

I goes by a different road, I first bought my Wii, then went on to get 360 for Halo 3,
and now i find i spent more time on Wii. (Blame animal crossing!)
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 31 2008, 01:25 PM)
During the days of PS1 and PS2 when Sony sold by the bucket load, we held up and pay our respect to Sony since they knew the way to market it.

Now that NINTENDO HAS RISEN FROM THE DEAD why can't you guys (the so called hardcore gamers konon) give the same respect and instead bashing it up?  whistling.gif
Err got GOW game on PS3 edy?  whistling.gif 

GT5 - BTW Demo sold as half of a complete games does not count ahh.
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Woa!!! rclxms.gif


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Happy new year everyone, back from countdown, kinda drunk, just checked in Animal Crossing, then I logged into here to see u guys. nod.gif
U guys might not agree with me, but u guys are terrific! notworthy.gif

The war will go on, but its ceasefire for today. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Jan 1 2009, 06:22 PM

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I agree with Corez.

Honestly no one would try to even think there is any chance PS3 will even beat 360, not to say Wii. Yeah right, start bring up the RROD issues! What else?

Wii has the largest install based and will definitely surpass PS2 soon by this rate, is there any doubt?

Yes, there is MINORITY of really loud gamers that rant non stop about the "no hardcore games" things, but those are all bullshit to me. The software sales said it loud and clear, PEOPLE like the games on Wii.

Animal Crossing anyone?? Probably too "cute" for you hardcore forumers.

Edited to add:

To those that really care about graphic, 360 has better graphic.
RROD again? Jasper/Falcon is out now, go ask Gamer's Hideout for price.

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 09:06 PM)
lol...
look who is the fanboy here sleep.gif
seriously, such pointless comments would ignite more fanboy war...
all the while, wii fanboys are among the most respectable ones being matured to handle the whole console war issue in a matured manner...
u sir, i would count you out of it...
again, look at gaming forums (wii music is a big example)...
look at the reviews of the wii games out this year...
and AGAIN, WHO THE HELL SAID THERE IS NO HARDCORE GAMES for wii...

u need a eye check or a psychiatist for being overly sensitive as NO ONE has been saying that!
all i read is the LACK of NONE CASUAL games out there...
so these are definately bullshit to u since u are imagining things...

as for graphics, both the ps3 and 360 have its strengths in various sectors...
there are some pretty decent comparison of the 2 consoles over gaming websites...
and again, MGS4 have been clean sweeping the 2008 graphics award...

and remember, the opposite of casual IS NOT HARDCORE...
so cute games is nothing wrong for hardcore ganers (see kingdom hearts, ratchet and clank, little big planet etc)

and since u like to say the software sales, look at the software sales for wii music...
having the biggest userbase, they would have the biggest market share for games sold as well...
its pretty rethorical...

@ PhoenixByte
ya the fanboyism of this thread is getting worse while they are still claiming to be in matured discussion...
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My eyes are doing fine. Thanks.

When i state the obvious truth, i am guilty of fanboyism?
Evofantasy asked me to look at Gaming Forum for Wii Music example? I ask you to look at Gaming Forum for "Wii have no hardcore games" example.

Perhaps I should remove the bells and whistles in my sentences, and lets see what is RIGHT or WRONG?

1. PS3 have no chance to beat Wii & 360. (Add: Pricing)
2. Wii is going at a rapid sales rate, higher than PS2 does last gen.
3. Wii has the largest installed base.
4. Animal Crossing is too cute for PS-biased forumers, again look at your favorite Gaming Forum.
5. 360 generally perform better graphically. (Cause it is the lead platform a lot of times)

To respond to your comment on Wii Music, that game sucks and it deserved to tank.

I am stating the obvious, so did Corez. But if you cannot accept it that is ok.
When Corez said THERE ARE THIRTY FIVE MILLION WII FANS COMPARED TO SEVENTEEN MILLION PS3 FANS,
it is a wrong statement?

I will continue a bit. Wii have good quality games, fresh and innovative games this generation,
it has it's pricing right, momentum right, PR right,
they deserve to win this generation.

360 outrunning PS3 fast, because Microsoft has one of the best management in town.
They make the biggest videogame blunder in town (RROD),
they get it over and went on offensive with NXE, Arcade, JRPG.

PS3 is losing, at first because of PRICE PRICE PRICE.
Now it has more problem in hands, many previously exclusive software is either abandoning PS3,
or going multi platform. Dragon Quest, FF, GTA.

You SIR, is the one that refused to face up to the truth.
I remember a fellow forumer said, for PS3 to thrive again it really required a lot of faith.
Faith of SONY and fans.
I couldn't agree with him more.

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