Chinaman company, what does it means?
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 Dec 2 2008, 09:28 PM
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My brother worked in one of those Singapore chinaman company before.
He's one of the pioneers and sad to say they don't appreciate his sacrifices (late nights and weekends) while he's working for them. Examples includes dragging his salary for more than one month when the company is starting up claiming need to wait for the customer to pay up. Not giving increment and bonus saying company not doing well while the whole family go tour europe for a month. Luckily he's in a US MNC now and it's a world of difference there.  |
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Dec 3 2008, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(kiddo @ Dec 2 2008, 10:50 PM) Actually there are pros and cons about Chinaman companies. I think it's more appropriate to say "They know how to exploit the employees better and the employees cannot do anything about it (since they have a million conflicting excuses) except quit." Pro: They know how to use resources wisely. No wastage. Meaning they don't pay ppl for nothing. Unlike certain Non-chinaman companies, sometimes certain position is redundant... Hence, when recession hit the country, normally Chinaman companies will sustain. While others will have problem cutting job, salary, etc. Con: They don't really follow black and white or company policy. Bos is the "policy". Probably just one person is hired as Admin cum Account cum HR... heheh... whatever comes out from Bos is the policy. Money speaks in Chinaman company.   Regarding redundant positions espeacially in MNCs, most of the time it's the mid management level. Nowadays, GLCs seems to be the way to go since the G will bail them out regardless. And the best part is you don't have to work half of what you are expected to do. |
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Dec 5 2008, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Dec 5 2008, 09:24 AM) I used to be in such company and yes, it pushes you to learn to survive and find solutions no matter what. I have to disagree on the part that staff in MNCs are not great on survival instinct. moving on to an mnc, i find the staff there, well... not so great on survival instinct and require guiding on a lot of matters. personal exp anyway. The political environment promotes back stabbers and ass lickers. You can be useless in your work and still be successful providing you are ruthless. Of course, MNCs have more excess baggage employees than chinaman since excess baggage employees are discarded by chinaman and simply because MNCs are larger in size. It's harder for an employee in an MNC to be fired once they get pass the probation period. |
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Dec 5 2008, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Dec 5 2008, 10:46 AM) I think I mean survival instinct in the sense of "if i dont settle this i will lose my job" True. True. I agree with that. Some people will go home w/o completing their work when it's crunch time. Your encounters are with deadwood/old timers who learnt how to leech off the org...  And most of the time, those that do that are the deadwoods. That mentality is due to the fact that MNCs rarely fire permanents unless they commit corporate sin (sexual harassment, etc.), are really really bad performer or from a global directive. That and also there's always some poor people taking over the work. |
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