If you peeps want to work in an MNC environment and avoid chinaman corporations, brush up on your verbal and written English skills!
Chinaman company, what does it means?
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 Dec 2 2008, 08:41 PM
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Dec 2 2008, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(seantang @ Dec 2 2008, 10:31 PM) A lot of you seem to have a real disdain for Chinaman companies. If they are so bad to work for, then don't work for them. Why suffer the long hours and 1 person doing 3 persons' jobs? Some of these peeps can't get into MNCs and the Accentures of this world is largely due to their inept command of the English language.If you can work so hard and are so good, I'm sure the MNCs, consultancies and international banks must be tripping over themselves trying to hire you. But the fact that a lot of you spend years slaving at Chinaman companies proves 2 things. 1. You're really not that good. Probably not much good at all. The only company that will hire you is the Chinaman. 2. The fact that people like you spend years at Chinaman companies, and they have survived for generations means that they are paying you exactly what you're worth. Not much.  |
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Dec 2 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(genesic @ Dec 2 2008, 10:40 PM) for my opinion, you wil able to learn a lot , i mean damn lot as your job wil cover several field also. when you think you have enought of knowledge, you can apply in a mnc company in management level already. this is due to your large coverage of skill and good communication skill as you have encountered during your working time in those chinaman company. Good communication skills are honed in chinaman corporate environments?Do you even what is the lingua franca of MNCs? How many chinamen companies can even string a decent English sentence? |
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Dec 4 2008, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(genesic @ Dec 4 2008, 01:57 PM) Maybe your should check back on your own english before you post it here. Speaking of English, I see you don't have a good grasp of plurals and spelling. Re-read your own sentences.Althought my boss is a chinese but all our corresponding letter is done in English. This is because we deal alot wit MNC company. Added on December 4, 2008, 2:01 pm At least someone finally understand what i meant. If you get a position in a MNC, you will probably in a managerial position because they know staff from chinamen company are multi tasker What sort of good communication skills have you learnt from working in a "traditional chinaman" company? Please enlighten us. Hiring for managerial positions are dependent on the candidate's skills and relevant experience - multi-tasking in a smallish and less professional setup e.g. a chinaman firm does not increase the chances of being hired for such positions. Hence, most if not all management positions, particularly the senior ones at MNCs are filled with hirees from other MNCS or at the very least, large local corporations (think Sime Darby, Public Bank, etc). |
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Dec 4 2008, 03:25 PM
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I very much doubt a cause-and-effect relationship can be proven that working for a "chinaman" firm or for an MNC type concern leads to entrepreunial desires. For instance, the founder of Lenovo (one of the largest PC makers in the world) attributed his success to HP when he was running a distribution business for the giant technology corporation. Running your own business concern is largely dependent on one's own preference and psychological makeup, people from all walks of life start businesses.
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Dec 5 2008, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Dec 4 2008, 09:27 PM) Like I said, undeniably one will learn something from anytype of companies. It just how much effort the employees take. In which most structured companies will have defined job scopes, therefore, exposure learn might be just a small part of the org. When compare to one in 'chinaman' firm, they don't get defined job scopes, therefore, more exposure. Bottom line is that chinaman or MNC type organizations do not promote or hinder one's entrepreunial spirit.Oh my.. Don't get me wrongly. I say 'chinaman companies' breed entrepreneurial spirit, it shapes the thoughts and mindset of the employees. But not every entrepreneur born from 'chinaman companies' of course. There is no cause and effect linkages anywhere to prove that - try as you might. I could also state that American type organizations produces entreprenuers by the truckload judging the amount of start-up businesses in the US of A and they are certainly no product of any chinaman organization. Entreprenuership is largely dependent on one's own character - I know because I am an entreprenuer myself. |
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