Well..what is the meaning is coz developer throwing plenty freebies then is consider no good???im one of the buyer at KOi Kinrara, bought by las year 2007 at less that 200k for my unit, but now,the pricing alredi increase till 260k as above (depends the layout) and the price are still under market price!Based at puchong, for service aprt still are consider cheaper even the price increase!do u think is not good return within only a yrs time?i very happy to get this unit as my layout is 1153sq.ft facing sunway pyramid view with balcony unit!this lay out alredi sold out and many buyer looking for this lay out too! I only can said that is my right choose for this property, but what i can comment to who's are just giving the negative comment by last year, PLEASE check the more info before give for any advise!dun jus simply to give the negative thinking to people if not yet getting all reseach.

hi,this few days quite busy so no time to check here..
about ur Question.."260k n above for a 1153 sq ft service aprt deep inside puchong is considered cheap n under mkt price???" What is the meaning for Service aprt?actually service aprt is condo, just a diff is resident land or commercial land..no much diff..Yes, 260k for 1153sq ft in puchong consider cheaper for new concept condo/ aprt, you shld do the some reseach for the property..as below is my posting at iproperty about some question from the one of the buyer looking for investment at puchong, just for sharing :
"Hope can share some of my opinion with u.
As u mention your intention is mostly for investment sake,that means the most important factor will be :
1)Price-buy low sell high-nature of investment.
2)Potential for price apreaciate of the property.
3)Time frame for the investment to gain profit return.
4)Risk of the project delay or abbandon. So here i will try to explain & compare some of the point for those project u mention. For investment,we must calculate the price of property by value per square feet & not the purchase price.
1)Price-buy low sell high-nature of investment.
- A)Koi Kinrara-236psf.
- B)Zen-245psf.
- C)Zest-246psf.
- D)Setia walk-320psf.
- E)Kinrara Mas
- F)Atmosfera-246psf.
2)Potential for price apreaciate of the property.
-A)Koi Kinrara-Their current selling price is lowest among all.
-B)Zen-The location not so preferable,surounded by undevelope area,LEASE HOLD.
-C)Zest-location wise will be alot of future competitor as bukit jalil still has plenty land to develope.
-D)Setia walk-Overprice,1700sf only with 3 rooms,not even a maid rooms.500K++...worth for investment?if price increase only by 20-30%...will u easily get a buyer to buy it?
-E)Kinrara Mas-Layout not bad.But same like Zest,location-see what happen to Puncak Jalil.Peopple selling at a loss price.
-F)Atmosfera-Nice layout+design.But the price selling at 20-30% higher than other condo around it.The project is on a cliff side,safe investment(Many query about the project will face problem with the gov after incident in Bukit Antarabangsa)?Last week,their project pilling progress effected nearby condo Sri Bayu-A big crack in Sri Bayu swimming pool,they have to stop the progress for a few days after get complain.Build too near to the 2 existing condo Sri Bayu & Villamas.
3)Time frame for the investment to gain profit return.When those project wil complete.The earlier the faster your investment is active.
-A)Koi Kinrara-March2010.
-B)Zen-2011.
-C)Zest-Some where mid of 2010.
-D)Setia walk-2011.
-E)Kinrara Mas-Oct2010.
-F)Atmosfera-End 2011.
4)Risk of the project delay or abbandon.
-A)Koi Kinrara-60%-70% complete.
-B)Zen-No comment,have'nt see any work in progress.
-C)Zest-No sign will abbandon.
-D)Setia walk-Reputable developer,dont think will abbandon.
-E)Kinrara Mas-Seems slow...but same,no sign will abbandon.
-F)Atmosfera-I actually quite like this project except for its price & and too many question for their project to face problems.The project still very early stage already facing too many query. Those are just some information to share with u.If for investment during these type of economy,prices very important.U think property above 300K or below will have more opportunity to sell of easier?For those that u bought above 300k,after the price goes up by 30%...how fast u can get a buyer that can afford the price? Investment is also about timing, complete earlier sell earlier.Invest again earlier.The risk of delay and abbandon is a very important factor,u might hope to get a 30% gain but might face a 100% loss...worth for invest? Well...if u ask me,from what i see of those current project.i will most probally choose Koi Kinrara as i will complete soon, price still below 300K, location wise is consider quite good for living,60% complete and still on very fast progress(think will be complete on time) and the price is catching up with other project. Just my personal opinion...all the best!

**please take note, i'm not looking to blame anyone, all property also have their advantage, nt looking to said anyone property worth to buy or not, just wan to share all the info as i know, thanks!

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Added on April 27, 2009, 8:52 pmwell, im looking to sell my unit not mean that i'm disappointed Koi Kinrara or what you are mention "disagree with some of the points".Actually i very like the Koi kinrara (is my dream house concept) but I wan sell it because due for my hb family like landed property and suddenly inform will stay together with 7 of the family members (abit small if 7members stay at condo), and we already booked landed property at Bandar Puteri Puchong.On my hand holding already 2 properties, one is aprt at Bukit Puchong and another one is KOi..Looking to sell it because from bank official inform that my loan must let it go one of the property on hand for this new landed property at bandar puteri (pricing is RM 5xxk) and he suggest for Koi as the loan amount high compare my bukit puchong aprt.

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Added on April 27, 2009, 9:08 pmhi, about what u mention that, beighbouring with Villamas , seri Bayu and Impian Height - thats all already traditional concept,Villamas and Sri Bayu consider Aprt and not Condominium but with condo facility.. Impian Height already more that 15yrs ago Condominium so what i mention is same,traditional concept and no maintain the environment as well..back to topics, you said that atmosfera worth looking it, do u really have do the comparison? pricing of the sq ft? Koi VS afmosfera is consider cheaper that, and the viewing also totally diff.let me make it clear,at Koi, you can choose face to KL view and FULL sunway View withou any blocking, for afmosfera KL view already block by villamas and seri Bayu, and afmosfera are not facing to sunway view directly, please go to show house to check properly as you mention us worth looking it.
Yes,i agree also as what you mention price increase doesnt mean the former purchaser, but just for this moment..same like what we can see now the market compare to years of 90century,100k you can buy very big house even landed property, but do u think now can purchase the property at 100k since 2000century?last 5 yrs at puchong,you only use 200k+- already can bought the nice location and "big" layout but after 5 yrs?even at assena puteri (bandar Puteri condo-traditional concept) now already selling at RM 240++ per sqft..market are going slow but not mean property will same too, currency will going down mean malaysia money also facing the same pro,money bcome small and small, even one cup of the blank water also already RM0.40 compare to last 5 yrs only RM0.20.. within this timing, all the rich people or investor will be aim the property because already noted that currency will going down soon, keep more million for saving better that invest something are get the good return.
Anywhere this only for sharing, same like what i said jus now, not going to blame anyone.

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Added on April 27, 2009, 9:20 pmDo you mean is Koi tropika or Koi Kinrara?
Actually pls make it clear, a lot of Aficans at the area as u mention, can u let me knw where the location are without foreigner at puchong?actually now not the location is good or not, even my fren bought the landed property also have facing the negro at opposite her house..same problem as she facing..but i think i hv good location if you can buy the landed property like Bungalow or Semi-D at location Bandar puteri (heigher hill) then mind be no need facing any foreigner Aficans or negro surrounding your house, haa..


This post has been edited by jesphannie: Apr 27 2009, 09:20 PM

ok..please correct me if any wrong as you mention.what i get the info some is from the salesman given and some is from internet info,correct me if really have the wrong info.

haa..sale?im not the agent and jus the owner,for me just is simple to advertise here for the potential buyers, U r rite, that is the decision by them and what i mention is im not looking to blame anyone for the said property, just looking for sharing.I also hope can get more opinion from others who's can give me more info.

Hi,what is your meaning can see little mont kiara soon?

Hello Jason,i already send my unit information to your inbox.Feel free to drop me a msg.Thanks.

when you go again, please look at your right hand side all the way you reach to KOI. u will found it. atmosfera is on another side so this might not be a problem.
-The way going to Koi is a must pass way to Atmosfera also, u mean go back Koi will see it/Go back Atmosfera wont see it...hahaha?U want people to see the shit pond.then u just need to park at the open carpark at the front of Villamas,full and nice nice view of it...no need go until Koi side...hahaha.

Well, is up to you. Water leaking can be happen in anywhere. the main thing is to see your neighbour would like to coorperate to solve this problem or not.
-Wah, u answer like this also can ah?Water leaking anywhere are can happen...see your neighbour wanna cooperate or not...if u living inside there...someone come knock on the door say" can u let people come in your house for a few days to solve a water leaking problem,maybe just put a few hole on your wall/floor but we promise will make repair it nicely,dont worry!Please cooperate! "

Need to go sleep soon....catch up with u guy later.




This post has been edited by jesphannie: May 2 2009, 10:59 PM

No problem Jason.Let me know when u are free for meet up.Thanks.

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Added on May 3, 2009, 1:15 pmhaha...u really very cute.

What actually makes u feel i am a sales person from Koi?
-Did i go everywhere saying bad/negative stuff about other developer project like u?
-Did i go tell everyone which condo they buy now will regret later like u?
-Did i go everywhere warn people which developer people will give u hard time after they pay booking(u paid booking at zen rite?)?
-Did i go stop anyone from choosing any home they like because i don't like it or not feel comfortable with it like what u did?

haha...u seems more like a sales person that me here.And by the way, did had a conversation with Jason.U are very very funny indeed...Jason just say he like Koi and did not say want to commit anything yet.Why u so serious to stop him to commit other home and push Atmosfera like a sales person?

Chinese saying "Slap your own mouth" which means u are saying something that against what u just tell people.

-As u know i am a Koi Kinrara owner, i take the risk of buying property when the project not yet start.From a empty land until now its already 19th floor, the developer itself are selling it at higher price because the cost increase & etc. All the property is the same, do u actually know what is early bird benefit when u tell people about Atmosfera giving out early bird discount? Jason understand this because he did some research, u want people to buy a property,take all the risk and when its almost done,sell it back at the same price?funny la u...u told Jason i bought it a lower price,of coz i did...Cox i bought it 1 yr ago. The early bird things is not only about discount,its about many risk a buyer have to take also for buying a property-like commit to something that is not complete.If u need more info, i think Jason can help u...with the conversation with him, i found he know alot about property.

-U said Atmosfera are selling at 270k-290k after early bird promotion.So after it half/fully complete, u think they will sell it at the same price?i no need to pay progressive interest?No need to pay bank loan penalty & etc?This is the nature of buying property.Actually how much do u know about buying/selling property?I just know abit but...i will try to learn more before do any comment...Gambateh!

This post has been edited by jesphannie: May 3 2009, 01:15 PM

so funny...from start of this topic.Everyone here already know i am a Koi kinrara owner and Jason already know it from start.To be fair fair, u can check back old posting,i never say anything about Koi is good/better.hahaha...wake up pls...

from what u reply...can see u are the sales person from Atmosfera lo...why?Showhouse walk in no good?Wanna get some buyer from here?No problem...

And as i said before, Atmosfera is quite a nice project .I also got friends quite interested for it and already pass your colleague contact number to him...hahaha.All the project have their own positive/negative point of view.People will go for what they really need/want.

Be mature abit la....hahaha...everyday also see new joke here.thank you wo...hahaha....i told my friend today i meet a funny guy in this forum, they also laughing.cheers!

Haa..because due to u are the owner of Zest??so koi will have problem for u??well well, as what i comment at iproperty just only some of opinion, did'nt said any problem for all property.u feel funny due to your mind is just setting im going to try promote KOi??haa..then u really make me feel more funny! I have consider the zest for my investment purpose too but very selling fast and the price are high as i expected but still consider good price for zest compare to setiawalk (same category project) , anywher who will know the future, you also can't said or guarantee that koi won't have protential to grown up and Phase 2 already 90% sold out since start lauch on Nov 2009 anywhere you maybe are lucky one of owner Zest, but for all residents KOi Kinrara will have same feel lucky one of owner koi too..Cheersss!!

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Added on January 30, 2010, 12:17 amHi,actually the Koi are expected completed on March 2010, but waiting CF need take for another 3 months, so that's why the SA will inform that is June..

This post has been edited by jesphannie: Jan 30 2010, 12:17 AM

well, i didnt have those ur mention contruction experience but jus get the info from developer and SA about the completion..ermm..u seems like quite experince about the construction, do mind after u visit koi, u think will completed by when by your so "pro" experience?

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Added on January 30, 2010, 12:59 pmSure will happy fot it same u too

This post has been edited by jesphannie: Jan 30 2010, 12:59 PM