good idea death, but personally i think it's best to focus on CoD4 for now.

even if you finalise the games, most cafes cannot fulfill enough teams for each of the games. for example, using CoD4, DotA and FiFa08:

CoD4, DotA and FiFa08
cafe A: Y N Y
cafe B: N Y Y
cafe C: N Y N

i believe most cafes will only fall under cafe C, since DotA is so popular. as for FiFa, only a handful of their good players are affiliated with cyber cafes and if they really are, the whole clan is under 1 cafe.

i strongly suggest focusing on CoD4.

also, i hear this talk about international rules. unless most of the international tournaments adopt THE SAME RULESET, then there is no international rule to follow as yet.

why be followers when you can be the leader?

ah, very good arguements from all parties. good to see many young debaters.

OOT, i'd like to tell you about my experience in Sabah 2 years back when i was told that STARSHIP TROOPERS, yea, the game based on the movie, was a popular game in cafes over there.

was it believable? sounds hard to believe but i did see it with my own eyes. i saw about a dozen players playing STARSHIP TROPPERS, the multiplayer portion, in a cafe. players were screaming and shouting and laughing like in any FPS shooter. i can't remember which cafe was it but it was a rather notable cafe. also, i only saw it 4 months after i was told about it. so to see with my own eyes, 4 months later, was surprising.

strange, even one of the cafes wanted to do a tournament but it was too weird at that time.

anyhow, nothing happened and the game died. what happened after? people played other games, there are so many games to play out there!

so lessons to be learnt from my experience:
all games are fun. y so serious?

anyway, sorry for my old man 'monologue', back to the topic.

again, when most of were at the very first meeting at Damansara nearly 6 months ago, i aimed to make tournaments more fun and exciting for everyone to play, i followed the majority and the majority went to perks which later realised itself to PAM4. PERKS, are a feature in CoD4 that made it stand out from other games. no PERKS, no CoD4. and so PERKS are here to stay until the time comes for a change and that change will be a majority change.

n i also saw the rise of DotA into competitive gaming... i implemented the save game rule every hour because there were so many arguements in Global Net 5 years ago. i had to stand my ground and order a rematch because of disconnections, nearly one hour into the game.

like it or not, competitive / pro-gaming has another 10 more years to go. with the CPL and CGS closing down, it's a sign there was a flaw in the model and i believed is this: cyber gaming isn't spectator friendly.

it also boils down to the sportsmanship of players. although i condone swearing but i do it responsibly (families are excluded).

teq: i still have your proposal, haven't had the right time to look at it, soon i shall.

so finally i'd like to say: stick to PAM4 for the time being. keep it consistent and then review the changes. you don't see FIA changing main rules too often, only before the beginning of the season and everyone shuts up and accepts them.



This post has been edited by king_kong: Dec 4 2008, 02:14 PM