QUOTE(Grr @ Dec 8 2008, 12:09 PM)
ABC, I think there were quite a few things you weren't aware of about the planning for the future of the CoD4 community in Malaysia here. Yes, perhaps we were "stubborn" before, but clearly the time is ripe for change now. Switching over too early would have seen too many of the newer teams drop out and we would have been left with an ever-growing divide of skill between the top teams and newer teams. This way, when we do switch, it will be done with the consensus of the majority rather than a select few. While I don't believe in the purity of the democratic process, I do believe this is the only way to guarantee the participation of the majority in the future. Of course, if you had noticed, in this whole discussion, there weren't many posts defending our local ruleset. This doesn't mean that the community hates the local ruleset but rather is mature enough to notice the deficiencies there.
Mama, I think this debate was important enough not to be done through PMs. The community needs to know about the information revealed here. Yes, it's off topic, but important nonetheless. =) You are right about the both sides being passionate about what and why they believe. I suppose the mods will split the thread if they see fit.
And finally, yes, we desperately need some sort of global unifying mod and a ruleset. Not just for us, but for the CoD4 community all over the world to grow even further. I do believe this game still has quite a bit of undeveloped potential. =)
I agree with the unifying ruleset and it doesn't matter WHAT is it. With sufficient numbers you could create a mod with bananas for knives and supersoakers for guns and you'd still have a playable mod. It IS kind of saddening that people who did not understand the working model behind what a lot of the leaders here were trying to do and fought against it. We were talking about it a few nights ago and came to the conclusion that we couldn't make the decision ourselves because there were too many factors involved. So, in a way the meeting on the 20th is to clear up everything in preparation for 2009.
And yes, sometimes, you have to hide information on a need to know basis. Reason? I've met enough people to know and read enough in this forum that people with only half the information will run off spouting their mouth thinking its the god absolute truth. I don't pretend to know any of the government policies of any of the neighbouring countries on Gaming (I'm Malaysian btw). I don't profess to know the general behaviour and I've kept from using blanket statements unless they happen to be true (e.g Every Malaysian grew up surrounded by piracy in one form or the other.) I mean seriously, i'm sure you've told part of a story to a friend and your friend runs off to tell everyone that it is the gospel truth. Better not to mention anything at all and let the ones who are interested in doing, do and those who just want to talk, talk.
Cheers
Sanction
Added on December 8, 2008, 9:48 pmWait, i just realised. Did Snapper just call us liars? This is REALLY good for international relations.
Added on December 8, 2008, 9:51 pmI also just realised he bowed out of the conversation just as he realised he couldn't justify any of his comments because they weren't thought through in the first place. And don't use that, I'm leaving now because i'm more mature than you line. It's old. If you can't justify your words except with not understanding how something works, don't pretend to know what others are thinking. None of us said our way was the right way. But you're assuming we are, and you are SAYING that you're smarter better faster. So please Snapper, please don't come in here, sling insults, and think you're all the better because of it. You don't sound harsh. In fact you just sound like a guy who doesn't have all his facts who wants to come in and seem like he knows what he's talking about. I don't know you personally, but your online image really sucks right now. =) Oh wait, you probably don't care because you're on the other side of a screen.
This post has been edited by Sanction: Dec 8 2008, 09:54 PM