Ran a search but couldn't find a similar post/thread, so any help would be appreciated.

I recently received an Xbox 360 (Pro) as a birthday present and have been happily playing away at it using the bundled component cables. Now, my TV is a Samsung Series 5 (LA32A550P1R) model, which has full HD 1080p capabilities... so I decided to get a HDMI cable for the Xbox 360 and switch the display resolution from 720p to 1080p.

Now, the weird thing is, since I plugged the HDMI in, I can detect no difference whatsover between a 720p or 1080i/1080p display from the Xbox 360 (yes, I know that the Xbox 360 can only technically display up to 1080i, but come on... no difference?!?). My Samsung home theatre system (HTZ-210) upscales DVDs beautifully through HDMI, so I doubt it's a TV issue.... so how come the problem? Even though the Dashboard states the system is displaying at 1080p/1080i, I'm seeing jaggies galore and some truly horrible 16-bit colour dithering (on character shadows in Blue Dragon, for example).

Anyone able to shed a light on this? This isn't a sign of an impending RROD, is it?

FYI, my 360 Dashboard is pretty up to date... not NXE (haven't downloaded the damn thing), but is version 2.0.6717.0, which includes the 1080p update released in 2007

are you a 100% sure that your Samsung 32 inch can scale 1080P ?

how about 720i / 720p?

errr.. what do you mean but no difference? you set the display setting to 1080p in the system, and then you compared to what you saw in 720P?

Also.. I think there was something about 1080P not supported via the HDMI interface somewhere?

The Samsung model is labeled as "Full HD 1080p" which would mean it's capable of displaying 1080p outputs, right?

720p is fine... but the 1080i/1080p look almost identical to the 720p one! The jaggies are driving me nuts....

Set your XBox to 720p, TV scales it to 1080p (TV's native). Set your XBox to 1080p, your games are scaled from 720p (normally) to 1080p.

As far as I'm aware, the Xbox 360 is technically not capable of outputing a 1080p signal... but simply upscales the games (at the native 720p) to 1080p.

I've tried mucking about with all sorts of setting combinations (including using a different HDMI cable), but I still can't see a difference between 720p and 1080p. I'm not sure if I'm having different expectations of what a 1080p display on a 360 is...... is the text and icons on the dashboard supposed to have blurry edges at 1080p? It sure looks a damn sight worse than 1080p from a PS3...

Generally, you can only tell between 720p/1080i and 1080p if you have a 40" lcd tv and above...

This post has been edited by Mr. Alby: Nov 30 2008, 09:30 PM

Hmm... that could be it. Silly me for not investing in the 40" version.... oh well... thanks for the help so far

Ditto.

Plus there's only a handful of games which are 1080p native, most are 600-720p.

As I know only Elite version support full HD.

between 720p and 1080i what are the differences? I couldn't see any....which one is better? Also, can the component cable display 1080p? or do I need a hdmi cable? Sorry yah a bit OT. Feel like dun actually need to open a new thread just for this questions since it is somehow related

just wnt to ask here
50 inch tv usually use how many P???my tv can use all the cable that xbox360 give(red,white,yellow,blue,green,i think its another red again)im using panasonic dunno what model
now im using 480p and i think looks ok

i try using 720p and see a bit difference from the dashboard,looks smaller if im not mistaken
try playing fifa09,and the main menu writing looks bigger than 480p and when playing in tele camera,looks a bit far which i don't like
playing cod4..erm i think the main menu looks bigger but when playing i din't notice any difference

wanted to try 1080p,and 1080i..but a bit lazy

does the wording looks smaller in 1080p than 720p?


technically 720p should be better than 1080i. and IINM component cable can also displayed 1080p, for dashboard and games only tho, dvd playback cannot.


depends, some still is 1360x768 while newer one usually is 1920x1080.

you using 50" but only running it on 480p?? such waste man..

so u think i should use how many P?

just use vga cable and set the resolution to the tv's native resolution sure picture sharp.

This is simple, as long as the game is not rendered in native 1080p then u wont see the benefit of 1080p even if you're using a bigger FullHD lcdtv.

use HDMI cable for crying out loud if u have such a big TV

lol

Quick question, VGA or HDMI for xbox360? I've read an article or two that says these 2 are pretty similar as far as PQ goes (when it comes to the xbox360 that is).

is it make any diffrence on the graphic?

my friend has samsung plasma tv and i think already hdmi built in(not sure)
but he don't need the red,yelloe white,he just put the tv cable to the xbox360(i think its hdmi or maybe other thing)

start a game on pc.. whatever pc game u have..
go to options, look for video options, change the resolution to 640 X 480 (or anything lowest)
look at that graphic...

then change back to 1280 x 800 (if you got a widescreen monitor, or what ever the highest your graphic card can support)
look at the graphics now..

that's the difference.

i can't play any pc game

i dun have superb graphic card

This quote is obviously very misleading. You can definately notice the difference from a FULL HD vs a HD READY TV when you are gaming. Jagged lines are very much noticeable under 720P and 1080P is the best way to minimize or to eliminate jagged lines in games.

If a person is using it to watch movies, then the difference is not dramatic and it can hardly be notice. Gaming wise, there's a HUGE difference.

[Note: Games must be able to support 1080P output to realize the difference]

This post has been edited by Thrust: Dec 1 2008, 11:48 AM

I cant tell the different between Full HD & HD ready with my 32" lcd tv. Thats why for me I dont invest for a 32" full hd tv.

make sure your game supports native 1080P out else you won't be able to tell the difference.

a 32" doesnt cut it for FULL HD

wasting money only

SIZE does MATTER

go to windows display settings, do the same like i told you.

u mean do it on xbox 360?
xbox can play pc games??

ROFL no that's not what he meant. He's trying to show you the difference in picture quality with different resolutions.

i see..but i only wnt the difference on xbox not pc.
soory if im misunderstanding.
my english is poor

sama la beb.
sebab tu aku guna contoh pakai windows ko.
kalau resolution kecik, gambar kan pecah2, tak lawa icons ko sumer.
tapi kalau resolution tinggi, sumer nampak lawa and smooth kan?

tu la beza dia...

There are few things ppl need to understand before buying a big label stated FULL 1080i HDTV stick on the panel.

Although 1080i has 1080 lines of vertical resolution and 1920 pixels per line, the fact that 1080i is interlaced, causes an overall lower resolution (in practice) than 720p. In other word, 1920x1080 in HDTV is refer as number of lines while the PC monitor 1920x1080 is using "resolution" pixels. HDTV is dealing with progressive and interlaced signal which is not the same with computer image pixels.

1080i is 1080x1920 or 60 fields per second or 62.2 pixels per second, 720p is 720x1280 or 60 frames per sec or 55.2 pixels per second. So most people cant tell the difference between 1080i and 720p broadcasting becoz their eyes and brain are piratically seeing the same number of pixels per second.

Only when static images or small changes in the scene are displayed is that the improvement of 1080i over 720p in HDTV broadcasting is noticeable. As soon you focus on fast moving visuals, 720p looks as good as, or better, than 1080i. This is why it is the preferred format for broadcasting sports. 1080i delivers a higher quality visual when static images are broadcasted. As soon as you have fast changes in the visuals, 720p look as good or better than 1080i.

Sony’s claim that 1080p is “true high definition” is ridiculous when you consider the fact that their PlayStation 3 will be able to output a 1080p signal through its two HDMI outputs, yet none of their high-definition televisions can actually accept such a signal.

Is 1080p essential? Not really. If you already own an HDTV, don’t feel that you’ve thrown your money out the window. Coz for future generation DVD and video games, as long as it export fully 1080 definition signal to your compatible 1080 HDTV, then you can finally enjoy what you paid for.

(sources are from teamxbox.com)

This post has been edited by benghee: Dec 1 2008, 04:07 PM

maybe some old hdmi cable only support up to 1080i,
try another hdmi cable.

Hmm no one seems to mention anything about proper viewing distance?

Nope...
Because the TS just wanna know why his X360 cant display proper resolution je...

lol exactly. viewing distance is also important for anyone to notice the difference of 1080p and 720p. Else how can i see the difference on my 24" monitor then.