Anyone want to install a intercooler for NA saga/iswara? haha. I can help and it very useful. We use intercooler for Cold Air Intake.

you are wrong.. when the air pass by the intercooler, the air will get cooler compare with normal air.

First we need to know what is the usage of intercooler. It to transfer the heat and allowed the hot air enter into the intercooler and when the air exit from the intercooler, the air will be cold. So if just put cai mouth on the intercooler, connect another hose from exit into our carburetor mouth.

I don't think so it will loose driveability. But i know it damm heavy.. ehehehe.. some more i got idea how to make mechanical turbo..

don't have any website as it think by myself...

For those intend to modified their saga/iswara, i suggest you guy don't do so in this moment. Crisis is coming. Economy getting worst and worst. When you have money, keep it now for the future to use. Now is the time to save money for the future usage.. Next year economy is getting more worst and might affect automotive industry. =(

If we really have alot of money, then don't mind to spend more. But if we spend more, and can't take back then you will getting bankrup very soon.

i heard that from my boss.. He was a politician and government people.. Ada pangkat ini.. Everyday told me about economy. So I get it from him. Furthermore, last time when i working at workshop, estimated 1 day around 10-20 cars per days. While now getting worst and worst. Sometime whole day don't even have car at all...

Not only that.. Bank and government sector worker are waiting to be cut.. I get this info from my friend which working in bank and also government sector. General Motor today announce bankrup edi...

We sent money is not really usefull. What they need is, foreigner come and spend there money here.. This is what malaysia need now.. foreigner investment.


I get 1.5 block already.. Rm200 only.. Include piston,crankshaft and block And 1.6 flywheel with clutch for Rm400 Next week off 2 days, I will install that if I managed to borrow tools... 1 bulan allowance habis...

I dah save ma.. Normally change block outside, will charge between RM900-Rm1.5k. But me below Rm700 settle...

hahaha... same price? Tak sama.. Me tak ada labour ma.. Sendiri pasang, sendiri tuning, baru tip top. Priceless ma.

Join gang 1.5 la.. kena upgrade sikit... Kalau nak, i ada lubang lagi cari block 1.5.

I rasa nak stamp balik engine.. Kalau roadtax tak mahal sangat, mungkin i nak endorse.

tak ada...

still can endorse without kastam paper. Unless you convert to japanese half cut.

I nak stamp, but my sifu don't give me stamp as he said this very risky. so he can help me endorse very easily.. as he working in automotive around 25 years, i believe he got lubang. hehehe....

Part you need is conrod bearing, piston bearing, piston ring, head gasket, oil pan gasket, oil seal for flywheel.

The labour include parts will be price slightly like overhaul an engine.

cause confirm will kena.. JPJ is not that dumb... Hehhee....

if include 1.6 stroker, then will be more expensive.

Actually it have 3 rear seat belt. I haven't go tru with my car yet. But so far, I had take out around 6 iswara middle seat belt. The seat belt being hide below the seat. So need to remove the lower seat and you will see the middle safety belt. I will check it for lmst tomorrow if possible.

Nope.. Actually we stamp, the font is different. if the officer experience enough, confirm will kena. But not all jpj will do so cause they will thought we just monster engine wanna be. Some more as you said, put some engine oil dirt on it. hehehe.....

Iswara they hide... But for lmst, i need to check.. Last time don't have such rule for rear seat belt. so the proton hide it as later passenger ass pain...

cannot... you can easily remove the seat. Remove 4 buts(12 size). 2 below the seat and 2 more you need to push down the upper seat and you can see.. it screw on metal.

i find out edi.. Saga/iswara/lmst/lmss 2004 onward, doesn't have 3rd rear seat belt. So must go back glenmarie to claimed back included installation. Some branches can install but you need to pay labour charge. Suggest go back glenmarie and install cause install seat belt is not that easy. Need to weld and drill.. Register online not that fast. Tomorrow i give you all the proton tol free number.. Sekali call, buat booking.

then settle rear seat matter, but kantoi tinted.

car 4g13 burning oil maybe is valve seal or piston ring only. No need to change the whole piston if your piston still usable. Normally 4g13/4g15 part in the market won't out of stock.

Yeah... Normally we charge labour Rm70 include grease... Hahhaa....


By the way, now I know the reason why stamp engine is risky.. The jpj using special light to trace it. Workshop there stamp the number, while the proton original block is not stamp. Is using special needle to write on it. So when on the special light, it will show clearly.. If you stamp the block, i confirm you can't pass puspakom inspection. Unless you got lubang inside the puspakom.


Another problem is, 4g13 and 4g15 carburetor is not same. Although it look like same, but the main jet size inside is different. That why when change to 1.5 block, the fuel will not enough to supplied to the combustion chamber if using 1.3 carburetor. So will cause jerking. So take note in this for those who intend wanna modified..

cannot also. later main jet size big, but supplied come is not enough. ehhee.

Guy, i wan to give you guy some info.. What mean proton edar genuine parts.. Proton edar geniune parts mean the parts is Original Local Made (Original part buatan malaysia). We called it OEM.. If we compare it with MMC parts, MMC part is much more expensive and long lasting.. If you guy got extra $$, you try replace your engine mounting into MMC engine mounting. You can feel the different.

And now, proton wanna partnership back with mitsubishi. Last time proton don't want mitsubishi because the loyalty is so high.. Hopefully proton will able get mivec engine from mitsubishi..

Ya.. I remember about mechanical turbo for carburetor.. Mean, set into a rpm which you want the turbo to activate.

thing you need,
1. Turbo kit.
2. Fuel Pump.
3. Bigger fuel line.
4. Door sensor. (Most of the continental car have it. When you rev on certain rpm, the door will lock by it self. Use this sensor to control at which rpm the turbo activate).

This is what we need.. The extra fuel pump need to be install to avoid fuel supply not enough when the turbo activate. The bigger fuel line is for the fuel flow is always enough to the manifold. While the door sensor, to do like mivec or vtec style. When at certain rpm, turbo comes in...

I not sure it can work or not.. Need to get some advise from my sifu workshop which convert turbo car. This sifu very special. Call him fix normal saga/wira, he don't know how to fix. But you see him barai turbo kit and install back into the engine, you get scare.

This post has been edited by singchaii: Dec 7 2008, 07:06 AM

For me, it not worth. Cause at RM5k, it can't use back original parts. Mean all the part they use to rebuild is using taiwan or china product. Furthermore, if still is 4g13 with oversized piston, better don't do. The improvement in term of bhp is not really much.

Rear drum brake can be service. Usually we service it if the rear brake seem bite less if the brake shoe still thick. And if the rear drum got mice sound, we service it as well..


By the way, the main jet i mentioned between the 4g15 and 4g13 carburetor can be adjust... Furthermore, I using 4g15 distributor now and modified carburetor. (Main jet following 1.5 which I done last time when I lighten and balanced my engine). Another stuff i do on the carburetor is the insulator. Normally we have insulator between the carburetor and the manifold. The insulator is so thick. So it will cause the fuel take time to go down to the manifold. What i do is sand the insulator become thinner. The improvement you can feel alot...

crab? >_<


the 1.3 and 1.5 carburetor, the different only is the main jet. No need change the jet. You can adjust. But after adjust the main jet, need to use Co2 sensor to re-tune back the Co2. Or else, no power improvement.

Well.. If not really easy for you to understand which part by which part as it have alot of part in an engine system.

Another easy way, you can just remove the EGR on the carburetor system. The EGR is work like cat-con.

Not so much improvement la. But you can feel the respond. As you sand the insulator getting thinner, the fuel flow into manifold getting shorter. So it improve the respond. I sand the insulator become very thin. But I didn't measure it.