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 HOW TO REMOVE NAME FROM BANK NEGARA BLACK LIST, finance

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etigge
post Mar 15 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Error404 @ Mar 15 2011, 04:23 PM)
In Malaysia, banker will only lend money to those who don't need loans.
Those who really need loans will never get it...
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biggrin.gif I can attest to that! My former boss, very particular with numbers. His bank statement must be the exact amount and he will query the bank even if statements is short of 10 cents. He is off course, loaded. The bank manager is always with him and every branch has a quotas to loan out. Then again, he is also responsible if the screening officers are wrong. This manager, to play safe, plays everything by the book and any doubts, he will dissaprove the loan. Almost year ending, he hasn't fullfill the quota and kept begging my former boss to take a loan of all that is not loaned out. 1.3 million. My boss kept refusing. He still has to pay interest and he don't need cash. That's how our 'kiasu' banks work. blush.gif
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post Mar 15 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Mar 15 2011, 09:20 AM)
biggrin.gif  I can attest to that! My former boss, very particular with numbers. His bank statement must be the exact amount and he will query the bank even if statements is short of 10 cents. He is off course, loaded. The bank manager is always with him and every branch has a quotas to loan out. Then again, he is also responsible if the screening officers are wrong. This manager, to play safe, plays everything by the book and any doubts, he will dissaprove the loan. Almost year ending, he hasn't fullfill the quota and kept begging my former boss to take a loan of all that is not loaned out. 1.3 million. My boss kept refusing. He still has to pay interest and he don't need cash. That's how our 'kiasu' banks work. blush.gif
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didnt know that every bank branch has this thing so called loan quotas, not the max quota to lend out, but min quota to give out o.O learn something today.
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post Mar 15 2011, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Mar 15 2011, 11:13 AM)
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CRISS, CTOS or whatever, there's 3 of them last time. One was listed as illegal but still operating as our banks are very very 'kiasu' kind of banks. The moment they smell a risk factor, all loans are off! If you have another car instalments or your house instalments is outstanding, whatever loan you are applying now if off. In Malaysia, our financial credit is FOREVER. Once a theif always a theif, that's our banks policy. No such thing as turning over a new leaf or not. GOD forgives but our banks NEVER.

In 1997 during the financial crisis, my business was in trouble. My car was reposses twice and by the third time, I gave up the car. The car was kept 18 months before it was auctioned off. They auctioned if off for 23K when the outstanding loan was 45K. This is done without my knowledge. A year after the repossesion, I went to the finance company to negotiate for the car's release. I said to let me continue paying for the car and skip the duration of the time the car was in holding. What I meant was, I will pay the 4 months outstanding when it was reposses and all the interest accrued during the holding period. The manager was adamant that I pay all outstanding plus interest plus storage charges. So, I failed to renegotiate because the manager was not interested in helping out. 6 months later, I saw the car on the road again. I checked with the finance and found that it has been auctioned and I was left responsible with the balance!

sweat.gif Two years later, I was summoned to the magistrate and I admitted I owed them and willing to pay RM200 a month. Those days there were no AKPK to start with, it was after too many like me was turning out that they started AKPK. The lawyer was not even authorised to accept or decline my offer. The matter is left standing as it is. Then the amount balloned to almost 100K now. I was waiting for them to declare me a bankrupt but it never came. I have this agencies calling now and then threatening to seal my house and auction off everything in the house. Either that or try paying again. Not to a bank but to an office! I told them to go ahead. I am probably a bankrupt now, who cares anyway, I tried my best.

In the US, the statute of limitations is 5 years, meaning all records unsolved will be erased after 5 years and you are a new man, a second chance. In Australia, 7 years and I am sure in other countries, there's a limit. Malaysia forever. shocking.gif

So, you should be careful dealing with banks, they are shrewd and without mercy. Our banks are the most unprofessional banks compared to normal banking and it is all santioned by our Central Bank that do not stay neutral. They support the local banks more rather than holding them in line. Look at our insurance companies, they are the same. Look at also our private hospitals. Spend wisely and think hard before defaulting. Better still don't take the loan! My life is turned upside down for the past decade but going along well. People just need to adapt. You know, it's ironic that people who loaned millions are never taken to task but those who owes 20K or 30K  are always left in the gutters.  shocking.gif
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very good sharing.
well, to whom we need to refer to? they will say is your faulth. so how?

what can we do?

any solution?

for me right... what i will do it to f*** the bank. i will f*** all the banker and i dont care he or she is a manager or CEO if i got chance. i even make the credit card or mortgages, financial sales person beg me like dog. i will get as much as many benefit from bank then i closed and cancel all the account, loan and whatsoever with them.

start boikot la. like what opposition did in election.

spread and let those who do not know what is our right, and someone from country management will start to look into the matter. its not fair at all when the record is forever there. this is shit!!

my advice dont borrow money or loan from bank. they call our mobile phone, we sue them. serious.. this is what singaporean did. fyi, i work in bank before and at least i know the operation. the bank try to make u sign agreement and if something happen no one will care.

my experience is try to catch as many mistake they had and screw them back.

so who wanna start to issue this problem? start do something. call YB also can.. Tan sri also can.

if they are not able to settle this.. dont vote them la.

i tell u guy.. we must learn from YB LIm guan eng..

He slept in jail before and now he is very clean. why dont we learn from him. everyone respect him. we need to make sure bank and banker respect us.. but for me.. better respect me like a dog, because u want my money (interest)!!

easy boh?



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post Mar 16 2011, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(lyynalay @ Mar 15 2011, 09:00 AM)
@akisendro

May I know how long "cooling period" for you to get new loan again ?  Do your name appear in CTOS or only CCRIS ?
I have the same problem.  Settled all the outstanding loan in Jan 2011 and received my settlement letterand update the status in CTOS.  Now in the midst of applying new loan.  Wondering whether can approve or not ? already attached the settlement letter with the new application.
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Last time ... i have to wait for about 2 - 3 months after ive full settled the payment with the banks .... before I went for any loan applications, I've went to CTOS and CCRIS for checking up my record.

and since I've full paid the remaining loan, the black-listed loan is not appear on my CCRIS record ... but sumtimes, the bank is very late to update their record which I believe they will have a direct update to a CCRIS systems (and CTOS maybe) ...

When submitting my loan, ive given the officer together with a full settlement letter and my CCRIS record in case my application is rejected. But with supporting document I'd gave, i'm getting the housing + car loan that I've applied.. even the car loan was rejected at the 1st try.. but after re-negotiate with the officer, i manage to secure it....

nothing to be worried then, once all your record on those systems are cleared. I believe you should not have any problem then. Unless your current monthly commitment is more than 3/4 of your fixed salary.... hope this wud help you ...

p/s : bank needs business .. sumtimes they will lowered their risk profiling on their customer in order to get more sales ...... but im no banker .. maybe the real officer here can shed some light about this....
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post Mar 16 2011, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(akisendro @ Mar 16 2011, 02:56 AM)
Last time ... i have to wait for about 2 - 3 months after ive full settled the payment with the banks .... before I went for any loan applications, I've went to CTOS and CCRIS for checking up my record.

and since I've full paid the remaining loan, the black-listed loan is not appear on my CCRIS record ... but sumtimes, the bank is very late to update their record which I believe they will have a  direct update to a CCRIS systems (and CTOS maybe) ...

When submitting my loan, ive given the officer together with a full settlement letter and my CCRIS record in case my application is rejected. But with supporting document I'd gave, i'm getting the housing + car loan that I've applied.. even the car loan was rejected at the 1st try.. but after re-negotiate with the officer, i manage to secure it....

nothing to be worried then, once all your record on those systems are cleared. I believe you should not have any problem then. Unless your current monthly commitment is more than 3/4 of your fixed salary.... hope this wud help you ...

p/s : bank needs business .. sumtimes they will lowered their risk profiling on their customer in order to get more sales ...... but im no banker .. maybe the real officer here can shed some light about this....
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Thanks. first bad news came yesterday...PBB rejected my loan. now trying for other bank. i have no other commitment now. no cc, no hp, no pl. i will try again.
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post Mar 17 2011, 11:51 PM

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FYI ... PBB is one of the most strictest bank to apply the loan .. hmm ..

depend on your loan .. what kind of loan that r u looking for ? is it a car loan ? or housing loan ......

If its for housing loan ... for me UOB is offering the best goodies on their home loan package .... automatically u can get 70% of OD from your approved loan ...

but .. if you dont really have plan to use the money ... better leave it on the bank .........

for car .... maybe you can try EON bank ....... hmmm just my 2sense.. maybe other taiko or those who really know about banking sector can comment on this .....

cheers buddy
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post Mar 18 2011, 02:29 AM

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My CCRIS report is clean. I got 2 housing loan which both showed 000000000000 .....

I applied for HP January from Tiger Bank, got approved ... I applied for CC from OCBC .. got approved....

My annual income more than 90k .. but don't know why Tiger Bank rejected my CC appl...
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post Mar 18 2011, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(akisendro @ Mar 18 2011, 12:51 AM)
FYI ... PBB is one of the most strictest bank to apply the loan .. hmm ..

depend on your loan .. what kind of loan that r u looking for ? is it a car loan ? or housing loan ......

If its for housing loan ... for me UOB is offering the best goodies on their home loan package .... automatically u can get 70% of OD from your approved loan ...

but .. if you dont really have plan to use the money ... better leave it on the bank .........

for car .... maybe you can try EON bank ....... hmmm just my 2sense.. maybe other taiko or those who really know about banking sector can comment on this .....

cheers buddy
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applying for housing loan...
now trying my luck in other bank...rhb, ocbc, ambank (the bank i owed previously) and ...... anymore suggestion ?

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post Mar 18 2011, 10:53 AM

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