Hi. newbie in photography..need some recommendation

Type of camera/lens/accesories : entry level , anything that's relatively good (2nd hand only)
Budget: mm how much for a used entry level camera? (err around rm600 )?
Your Location: Subang Jaya/ PJ
Preferable brand : Any
Type of photography u want to do : General, mostly on scenery
Any specific models in mind? : newbie here, D40 recommended?
Any specific features u want? : -

Sony A200/Nikon D60/Canon 1000D, all will work juz fine, i doubt u can tell the diff. Sony has the highest number of AF-9points

Again, i'm using sony myself, no complains. U can view the Sony's thread and gauge how 'good' it is. Put it this way, d60/1000d have their pros n cons too..

mm i noticed ur partly one sided, recommending 1000d as always. I guess u know Sony was from Konica Minolta rite? Ur point on having Too Many AF points with PnS, i don really get what ur trying to say. Having 9AF points IS useful. Let's say ur limited to a composition area, and if the subject is not insight of the AF points, ur AF area is not covering the subject. this is when more AF points is useful

Lol, can't agree much with you. well, if u noticed it was always 1000d

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Jan 21 2009, 10:02 PM

Well like i said, the users of Nikon n Canon can't seem to accept Sony's entry to the DSLR's market. One should know that Sony bought over Konica Minolta, so there was a development from there already, not a total n00b footing in DSLR. Each camera has their pros & cons, so just weigh it accordingly to your preferences. Go touch n feel it. Like me, i used to be a total n00b in DSLR 1month ago, but i'm proud to say, i do read a lot and progress since then. IMO, when i tested the 1000d, it was too light for my liking, the weight distribution wasn't balance, and when u fit for eg a 75-300mm, it will only get worst. Build quality wasn't that good either, on the other hand, the A200 felt solid n fits my grip comfortably. my point is, try to look things in a neutral way, read unbiased reviews/judgements/input and decide for urself

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Jan 21 2009, 10:14 PM

Probably i'll generalized the recommendations on the Entry level DSLRs. It doesn't really make much diff if one is getting either sony a200/300 /canon 1000d /nikon d60, as i bet one can't tell the teeny meeny differences in Image quality amongst them with the naked eye, off course, when zooming in, there are some differences, but very tiny differences. Again, is much more depending on the execution when u take a photocomposition photo. The kitlens + body can only provide you THAT much, so u'll need to learn how to take a good composed photos.

Believe it or not, from my experience from my last trip, i found the 9AF points is really useful. Newbie myself, but from what i understand, if ur limited to a framed composed shot, and ur AF doesn't not cover the subject, this is where more AF points come to play.

ayo my gawd. off course,given the right frame of mind, let's compare apple to apple. not on a sarcastic blown out of proportion comparison. We were discussing on the entry level dslr rite, that would be a200/d60/1000d

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Jan 22 2009, 04:52 PM

top up rm400 for a new sony a200?

<2k, will get u a300single lense/a200 single lense/a200 twin lense/d60 single lense/1000d single lense

<1.5k, will get u a200 single lense

All 3 cams are pretty on par offering very little differences.

again, as a newbie in dlsrs, let's try to look at things in a neutral perspective. it has been discussed over n over again on 1000d vs d60 vs a200/300. all cameras hav their pros n cons. i'll jus list them down again .

d60, rm1900
pros: Af assist lamp(good for low lighting). active dlightning, incamera post processing.
cons: 3AF points, only works with AF-S/I lenses. Image stabiliser on lense(only VR) - not exactly a cons, just a different way of implementing
Image quality= subjective, some may disagree that the nikon produces a too 'vivid' color, making it a bit fake and cartoonish. again, it's subjective

A200, rm1450
Pros: 9AF points, Built in image stabilizer(works with any lenses),longer battery life, built in motor @body
Cons: slightly higher noise @ >ISO800, no biggie as it's not noticeable on normal printouts, unless if u really wanna find fault with it by zooming in a particular area
Image quality= again subjective, some agreed(even from nikonians) that sony produces much better, softer and accurate color saturation.

Comparing apple to apple, no doubt sony a200 gives a better price to performance/feature ratio. rm450 is a BIG difference

Again, the best is to go to a shop and test all the cameras to see which fits u better. In the end i opted for A200(no fanboyism), i like to look things at a neutral ground. try reading reputable reviews/user inputs. i find www.dcresource.com is good

not to forget, Sony is not a totally new company to dslr, they bought over Konica Minolta, which every1 knows was a pioneer in DSLR before canon/nikon came in

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Jan 30 2009, 03:50 PM

yup juz 14mp instead of 10mp. rests are all the same

Right, ok let's just leave behind the company's history. Could we agree that the sony a200 isn't a slouch either compared to d60/1000d?

just put this way, there are very little differences between these 3, entry level that is. doesn't make much heck of a differences going either one

Nikon D60/1000d/Sony Alphas are within ur range

I would recommend going for Canon 40D(midrange SLR), Rm2.9k with kitlens these days. A bargain. Trust me, with lense choices, just skip the entry levels rite away, the amount differences over the entry level will pay itself back .

haha nicely quoted, single lense = around rm1450 (alpha 200). Neah, traded my a200 after 2months,don get me wrong, it's a gd camera , no complains, however u would soon find the limitations on all entry levels DSLR, that's why i'm opting to get the 40D reallll soon, coz the price is jus too good to resist.

Magnesium alloy, weather sealing, better build quality, individual button controls (ISO,WB etc), top lcd, etc...for only rm2.9k

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Feb 20 2009, 08:39 PM

nola 40d . 2.9k is new set la..from shops.

nola 40d . 2.9k is new set la..from shops.

nope, kitlens+ D90 = rm4k

From my understanding, yes the prices have already increased some wks ago, but it's only for accessories, mainly lenses, flashguns etc. But body's not affected

for 3.5k, i would suggest canon 40d, get a 50mm prime lens f1.8

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Feb 20 2009, 10:41 PM

D80 with kit is around 2.8k, for rm100 more, i rather go for canon 40d. It's on par with d300.

u get magnesium alloy body+LV etc etc..in short, 40d is superior for rm100 more.

2.9k with lense(cheapest). it's around 3k averagely...seriously.

40d if u don need HD video, else D90.

beautiful pic ah, better lense + skills lor

not bad price, i got mine @ rm3050, juz the camera + Kitlens.

dang, totally forgotten to check out BB Plaza

Sg Wang= no stock