November 24, 2008

The two Oddy family cats that were paralysed and subsequently euthanised.
UNEXPLAINED chronic illness and death among Sydney cats has been linked to a gourmet imported pet food withdrawn from stores over the past three weeks.
A cat neurologist, Georgina Child, has put down five cats over the past week and treated or consulted with other vets about more than a dozen others suffering from paralysis.
Dr Child, who is based at the University of Sydney's veterinary hospital and the Small Animal Specialist Hospital in North Ryde, said the only factor that linked all the cats was a specialist pet food called Orijen, which is imported through a Canadian company, Champion Petfoods.
"There is a highly suspicious link because this is an uncommon expensive food in this country at the moment, and not sold in supermarkets," Dr Child said. "But all tests that have been done so far haven't given us an answer."
First symptoms included wobbliness or weakness in the animal's hind legs, which could then progress to the front limbs. The condition did not appear to be infectious, Dr Child said, nor typical of a nutritional deficiency.
"Most worrying is that the cats showed no signs [of illness] while on the food," she said. "It seems to be happening weeks or even months later."
The marketing manager of Champion Petfoods, Peter Muhlenfeld, confirmed yesterday the cat deaths had been traced back to Orijen's dry cat food, and the problem appeared to be restricted to Australia.
He said samples sent back by the Australian distributor had a "strange odour". The company is investigating whether irradiation upon entry into Australia was the source of the contamination.
The Oddy family of Dundas has lost two cats in the past week. "They were the children's pets; it's awful," Sarah Oddy said.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cat-de...7375062012.html

i just wanted to share this news!

To all forumers here, anyone of your cat having this problem feeding Orijen? My friend, a pet shop and cat/dog rescuer facing this problem as well. some of their cats having same syndrome of back leg problem, then paralysis, in the end forced to be euthanized.

There are few cases in one pet rescuer already, everyone here having same problems please stand out for yourself, at least, ask for refund.

Thanks.

omg...

im feeding my dog orijen -.-

Phew, luckily im using Science Plan. Thanks for the info.

bro, frankly tell you, SP is not as good as you think though...

It is the time for recall world class pet food. this is second time facing problem, since they pet food have sharp fish bone, but they try no recall.

Dongdong can i know which is the petshop cum dog/cat rescuer ? there is only one in the klang valley selling orijen n i didnt get any complain fron them at all... i m the marketing personnel for champion pet supplies which is the importer of acana n orijen n as at today there is no complain from any of our client n i hope u can furnish me with the name of the petshop cum pet rescue so that i can go n confirm on this matter otherwise i hope u don simply mention it out cos it can be quite harmful to our company image n i hope u can cooperaqte with me by giving me the name n contact no. of ur fren so that we can refer this matter back to our supplier in canada.. tq

Mako,
forum always have talk only, where have pet rescue eat orijen pet food, I also want to know for which. you from champion malaysia? are you mark?

But this is the best one and the cheapest brand around in KCH. If RC, i will be starving.

if u dont believe u can contact me anytime, i will bring you here. plz do not simply talk ppl like that before you know anything. They consume more than 30 bag of 7kg Orijen per month, you can ask mako. he/she certainly know which rescuer i m referring to. thanks.

Hi mako, i bet you know which pet shop i m referring to. i think it is one of your largest customers also, not because they have a lot pf customers, but they have over 170 cats. furthermore, i m just mentioning the possibility, not as a conclusion of feeding Orijen. since it is mentioned in australlia, so i would certainly link paralysis in the rescuer's cats. sorry if cause any discomfort for you.

I must declare that it is a possibility only.

He have mention "can i know which is the petshop cum dog/cat rescuer ? there is only one in the klang valley selling orijen n i didnt get any complain fron them at all" That why i said forum just talk only. because he said work for this brand.

ok whatever you say, mako will have to find it out.

do you want have a look the Orijen Manager from Canada wrote memo about this issue? If like , I can post here.

Clementcpteh...yes i m mak from champion pet supplies sdn.bhd.... i know there is always talk only but please talk sensible things cos if u were to read dondong posting it states that the pet rescue have already got the same incident rhat happened in australia but i can say its a big lie cos i went to my pet rescue ppl n asked them n the answer is negative.. furthrtmotr we don have any client having 170 cats n feeding them with orijen... i don think any breeder in right mind will feed 170 cats with only orijen ....dongdong ur statement might land u up in legal suit if u cant prove that u r right cos its tarnishing the name of orijen and also a very reputable petfood manufacturer in canada.... please priovide me with the supposed petshop cum pet rescue name so that i can clarify everything for u b4 i send ur posting in this forum to the principal in canada n let them decide what actions they wanna take.. u can call me if u don wanna reply in this forum ..012-3590666...tq..clement can i know how u know me ? tq

I'm a orijen customer. I'm a lil bit paranoid when i get to know about this issue.

First i was surprise that there's a pet rescuer feed orijen to 170 cats? wow.. i never come across that at all. that pet rescuer must be coming from very rich sponsor then.

Secondly, i agree with Mako the Champion food distributor, people cannot simply accuse and pretend to have the problem straight away after 2 cats in australia died. If you have problem with your cats, and wanted to sue or refund... fist go to your vet and ask for approval. You cannot simply use the word come from your mouth to blame the company and distributor.

So now, before you putting bad name to other people, get you prove from the vets, a letter showing that 170 cats is suffering illness due to eating ORIJEN. Then call Mako so mako can send that vet approval letter of illness to Orijen Canada for immediate action.

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as i surf the net today i found this PDF letter by Champion PetFood Manager. You can download it here - http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/Aus...mer_Release.pdf

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Orijen people posted:

Q: WE'VE HEARD NEWS OF POSSIBLE CONCERNS WITH CATS IN AUSTRALIA
A: this concern affects the AUSTRALIAN MARKET ONLY and is associated with IRRADIATION applied to ORIJEN upon arriving in Australia. The process and concern is unique to Australia and does not affect ORIJEN products sold anywhere else in the world.

Q: IS ORIJEN IRRADIATED ANYWHERE OTHER THAN AUSTRALIA?
A: No. The irradiation process is unique to Australia.

Q: WHY DOES AUSTRALIA IRRADIATE ORIJEN?
A: The Australian government is concerned about the IBVD virus present in fresh chicken meat. Foods cooked at less than 100C for at least 30 minutes require gamma irradiation at 50 kGrays when entering Australia. As ORIJEN is made with large amounts of fresh meats, irradiation is required upon arrival in Australia.

Q: HAVE ANY OTHER FOODS HAD A PROBLEM WITH IRRADIATION?
A: Our research department has uncovered a study linking "possible nutritional, metabolic, or toxic causes" among cats fed a major brand of irradiated cat food. A summary of the study is available on the internet. LEUKOENCEPHALOMYELOPATHY IN SPECIFIC PATHOGEN-FREE CATS
http://www.vetpathology.org/cgi/content/full/44/6/912

Q: ARE THERE CONCERNS FOR ORIJEN IN ANY OTHER MARKET?
A: Absolutely not. Australia is the only country that irradiates ORIJEN and is the only location where any concerns are reported.

Q: WHAT ACTION HAS CHAMPION TAKEN?
A: We have removed ORIJEN cat foods from Australian shops and have stopped all future shipments.

Yes, I able read your writing Mark. thanks for return here, i still doubt pet rescue able using Orijen pet food. He would like bring us to there place, If can you may follow him and same time might make a new friend. You also bring another supporter coming for help. For me the forum just a talk song only. Don't speed too much time for it. By the way for your information. Have one large USA pet supplies company going plan open business at Malaysia. Tip for you.

This post has been edited by clementcpteh: Nov 26 2008, 06:58 PM

the orijen sold in malaysia is import direct from CANADA or AUSTRALIA?

sorry wrong information here, it is ACANA mix with Orijen. you may think whatever you want to think, they are rich or i m bluffing, or what so ever, that is your problems. i doubt why mako know so little about this. or maybe there is a communication problem.

but i just want to ask whether any cat owners facing the same problem? am i directly condemning champion pet food? and yes the fact is that some cats eating Orijen facing this problem. thats all. even though it is not proven that Orijen is the cause. and yes i do have friend saw a sharp fish bone in Orijen kibble as well, believe it or not it is up to you.

clement if you think that forum is just a place to talk song than no point staying here. actually i with my friend have personally convinced quite a number of forumers to switch to Orijen. Orijen was the best food in my mind. you may go Cari.com.my to find out how many forumers are feeding Orijen now.

btw i have pm mako...

Thanks your explanation, it no doubt to me already. you have a right to speak what you like, forum is a place open talk. As i read you are no directly condemning.
About Cat deaths linking cat food, That is so sad.,Cats are much more sensitive than dogs. During the melamine scandal in Spring 2007 many more cats died than dogs. How awful to lose your pet this way.

I just heard/read of this news.

I am also using Orijen for my Cat.

Anyhow, even in the first recall article, it is mentioned that this is a unique/restricted case in Australia.

So far my cat has had no problems what so ever since the past year I've been using Orijen.

Although a little concerned, but I am not that worried to continue using Orijen. Most of the explanation is clear and should be able to clear people's doubt(outside of Australia).


KP

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Elfreakz PDF findings is clear enough that we shouldn't be worried. Read through the whole PDF, it explains everything.

This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Nov 27 2008, 11:11 AM

Thanks. i do know what you meant by "talk song". and yes there are some ppl do talk song. they are irritating.
i think you know cat well. they are really sensitive especially to food. thats why the rescuer mentioned above feeds kittens and sick cats with Orijen or can food (Addiction, Evo, Regal) and adults with ACANA, but dog with Regal kibbles. They believe that giving the best food will lower the chance of visiting vets.
One thing to mention that, they have several cats suffering from syndrome similar to thiamine deficiency, and they all are taking fish kibbles (several brands). an experienced vet also mention that if the processings of kibbles do not destroy the toxic that cause TD, then there are still a possibility they will get TD. even though it is not lab proven. I just want to share here if anyone have seen similar TD syndrome on your cats, plz take necessary actions.

Glad you coming back. Look the Cat deaths link to pet food, the cat owner need take caution. by the way have another news from symptoms of salmonella infection to pet food for other brand. It already get recall by some area.
do you know symptoms of salmonella infection?
Salmonella can cause serious infections in dogs and cats, and, if there is cross contamination caused by handling of the pet food, in people as well, especially children, the aged, and people with compromised immune systems. Healthy people potentially infected with Salmonella should monitor themselves for some or all of the following symptoms: nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or bloody diarrhea, abdominal cramping and fever. On rare occasions, Salmonella can result in more serious ailments, including arterial infections, endocarditis, arthritis, muscle pain, eye irritation, and urinary tract symptoms. Consumers exhibiting these signs after having contact with this product should contact their healthcare providers.

i would like to know what this 'irradiation' actually does to the orijen kibbles. isn't irradiation supposed to kill patogens only?

orijen is one of the costlier pet foods around, so perhaps further explaination from mako wouldn't go amiss?

Check out the PDF link Elf posted, it contains explanation from the Orijen HQ Canada.

Some excerpts in the PDF about the "irradiation":



KP

tq tq, should have clicked on d link first...
wonder what australia's gonna do? they are very strict when it comes to imported foodstuff, borderline paranoia if you ask me.
the took my 'wah mui' packets before for testing and told me to collect it a few weeks later b4

Two weeks ago Champion Petfoods removed ORIJEN cat foods from shops in Australia and last week we issued a voluntary recall to collect any remaining cat food. Please know this recall is specific to AUSTRALIA ONLY and does not impact any ORIJEN food other than what was exported to Australia. As ORIJEN is made with fresh meats cooked at low temperatures, the Australian government mandates our foods be irradiated. This process is unique to Australia and we believe is the cause for health concerns in cats in the Sydney area. We have since stopped all ORIJEN shipments to Australia.

This problem does not originate from our factory or from our ingredients. All foods (including those shipped to Australia) have been tested thoroughly in the past few weeks and the results are perfect. We have recently uncovered research connecting irradiation to health problems in cats and have since ceased all shipments to Australia http://www.vetpathology.org/cgi/content/full/44/6/912

We are completely (100%!) confident in ORIJEN foods.

Thank you,

Peter A. Muhlenfeld

Champion Petfoods Ltd.
T 780.939.6888

www.championpetfoods.com


Voluntary Recall: Orijen Cat Food AUSTRALIA ONLY!

This post has been edited by mochablob: Nov 27 2008, 04:00 PM

No prob.

Yeah and their paranoia itself leaded to the death case of those cats.

Plus Orijen has only been in Australia about 9 months(they entered in Feb this year) and these cases pops up. I've been using Orijen since last year


KP

oh it is symptoms not syndrome, thanks for that. my English isnt good.

Can you share about which brands are affected in the recall? then we can take caution.

About the Salmonella, thanks for the information. but the pet rescuer did not tell me any cats are suffering from any of these symptoms.

There are 3 cats affected this time, all of them are fed Orijen for a long time.

Bro, if got time do come here, i am sure you truly love animals. and i am sure we will have good chats on it. i have pm you my contact number.

Thanks your contact, have found 3 cat get affected by Orijen? It might serious issue. Not sure other cat owner have facing same problem?

not to conclude it is affected by Orijen, but there are still a possibility, since the report is not out yet. summore it is found before the news of the Orijen issue.

Thats why i ask any one facing same problem here loh... but seems that possibility is quite small, 3/170. still it is a big issue, even if only 1 is affected.

Is something unfortunate happen, I feel bad for those peoples cats get this problem, I hope they figure out what happened.

[quote=elfreakz,Nov 26 2008, 06:30 PM]
I'm a orijen customer. I'm a lil bit paranoid when i get to know about this issue.

First i was surprise that there's a pet rescuer feed orijen to 170 cats? wow.. i never come across that at all. that pet rescuer must be coming from very rich sponsor then.

may not necessarily have a rich sponsor nor be rich in the pocket but i think this rescuer is RICH in kindness and charity to animals

Secondly, i agree with Mako the Champion food distributor, people cannot simply accuse and pretend to have the problem straight away after 2 cats in australia died.

before making the accusation that people simply accuse and pretend......, plse i think u should find out more first.
anyway, it's not only 2 cats that died in Australia, if i read correctly.

If you have problem with your cats, and wanted to sue or refund... fist go to your vet and ask for approval. You cannot simply use the word come from your mouth to blame the company and distributor.

how do u know that the cats have not been seen by a vet? we wouldn't know unless the rescuer come forward, isn't it?

So now, before you putting bad name to other people, get you prove from the vets, a letter showing that 170 cats is suffering illness due to eating ORIJEN. Then call Mako so mako can send that vet approval letter of illness to Orijen Canada for immediate action.

i think u shouldn't do speed reading. never anywhere in this thread did i read that 170 cats were ill due to eating Orijen. u shouldn't come up with ur own information. moreover, i think u and mako are getting all this wrong. i don't think the purpose of this rescuer is to tarnish any product. i personally don't think that this rescuer will feed Orijen to his/her cats if the food is not good. plse ask yourself - why feed a good food and then want to bring the brand down? defies logic, isn't it? of course, it's natural that when cats are showing the same symptoms as those cats in Australia they would want to know more, hopefully to find a cure? is there anything wrong with that?------------

dongdong u pm me saying that the pet rescue is having 170 cats thats all...what i want is the name of the pet rescue n if possible to meet up with him or her not just listening to u talking...why cant u don waste time n lets go n meet the fren of urs ? rather than just talking baselessly ? why don u just pm me the contact no. n i call them n visit them with my boss ? lets do things n don just talk ok ?

mako, i am not sure if you are employee or employer of CPS, then why should i disclose anything to you? do you have any prove showing you are the mentioned? are you moderator? there are something P&C, not that you want then i am obliged to tell you. you say i will get into trouble, then i cant see you know law. why dont you go and ask you dear boss Mr Gan or yourself( i assume you are Mr Gan) is there such a big customers taking such a big order every month? and outsider knows more than insider?

call them and visit with your boss? you DONT NEED to come. Your boss will be more than enough. ok lah, lets your boss do his task, not you ok? if want to sue also from your boss ok?

oh one more thing to mention, you know less than me. did your boss email to Canada?

Sorry for interrupting, but i can't get this out of my head.

If Orijen claims this is because of irradiation, how come pet food from other brand escape this debacle? Don't tell me other pet food all come from inside Australia or are not irradiated?

"As ORIJEN is made with fresh meats cooked at low temperatures, the Australian government mandates our foods be irradiated. This process is unique to Australia..."

my boss has spoken to ur fren n there is no evidence that the cats u mentioned is sick due to taking orijen n acana.... ur boss already saidd that she havent got any confirmation from vets n u dare to say it might be due to orijen n acana ? u r just a college student helping out in that place n not a vet to do accusations...just take care of ur studies n leave the rest to the vets to confirm.. i know who u r .... n even ur boss didnt confirm its due to the petfood u mentioned so just concentate on ur studies n don make a hassle out of ur curiosity n jumping to conclusions ... told u couple of times do not talk things that r baseless unless u can prove its the petfoood problem ....u can call up the company n check it out whether i m with them or not if u wan... no point wayang here n there la.... i m a very staight to the piont guy n don like to waste time with ppl like u .....this willl be my last time replying to u cos i think i better save my time n do more sales of orijen n acana rather than talking to someone who is not worth wasting my time....

so this shelter really exists? than u also owe dongx2 and apology wor.

A Sydney vet says an imported pet food might be the cause of a chronic illness and the death of several cats.
The Canadian Orijen brand of cat food has been withdrawn from stores in the past three weeks after vets and cat owners raised concerns about it.
Cat neurologist Dr Georgina Child says she knows of about 20 cats that developed weak limbs after they had eaten the food. Some of the cats developed paralysis and had to be put down.
Dr Child says the Canadian manufacturers are investigating why only the Australian imported product has caused problems.
"At this point, one of the things that they're working on is that there may be a problem with chemicals getting into the food from the packaging somewhere in transit," she said.
But she says there is not a clear time link between the eating the food and developing the symptoms.
"What's troubling about this is that many of these cats have been eating this food for quite some period of time before they actually develop any abnormalities at all," she said.
"Even cats that have stopped eating the food may then go on to develop the signs several weeks or even 12 months later."

This post has been edited by clementcpteh: Nov 30 2008, 07:00 PM

where the hell did i conclude Orijen cause sickness? i just mention the possibility, cant you understand?
seems like your boss knows me well but i m not the one your boss had seen before. dont simply make assumption for me.
actually for a company like yours, your action on this forum is meaningless. i can say, stupid. summore you are arguing with your customers. you dont know the rule of foruming. sad that i thought you are an experienced forumers. i do comfirm your boss blasted you for playing on forum with me, i am sure smart Mr Gan wont allow this stupid behaviour that spoil his name. right?
study hard? i should ask you to study hard as well. dont simply use law when u dont know law. one fact i must tell you is that law is not reading the status, but it is logical thinking. from starting you have been unlogical, how you are going to sue me? threaten me by law? or you want this to be on newspaper that "Orijen sue a student" to make your company and Orijen famous? yes i do think you are and you hope your sales to drop and Mr Gan will show you a letter.

you are straight to the point thats why you cant be like successful as Mr Gan. You are more arrogant than your boss, like you are your boss' boss. Bossini? yes finally you only realise you are wasting time with a goyang kaki u student. you should know it earlier. but you are entertaining and make me feel happy. and your reply shows how irresponsible as a supplier for whole Malaysia. some cats life rely on you i can say. you lose trust from your customers.

Go do summore sale but please make sure your food wont make more cats die. u may not able to sleep sound.

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Added on December 1, 2008, 2:37 amhi Madmoz,

he will not apologise. and i do not need his apology. i just wish those cats may rest in peace and more cat owners will be alert to this news.

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Added on December 1, 2008, 5:57 pm
fishbone found bu my friend.

This post has been edited by dongdong86: Dec 1 2008, 05:57 PM

all was mention by dongdong86 about he knew was true and the shelter is real. As customer have a right to know what happen to the pet food was mention. As supplies should more take care and hear what customer try inform. It not try for denial.

Yes we have the right to know, but not being threatened by distributor to get into lawsuit. Even if i think the food is bad, distributor cant alter my mind. I thought distributor who brings this kind of top end food has a heart for animals, but it seems that mako dont want to let the news out to prevent taking responsibility of cat death.

anyone interested to visit this pet rescuer, you are welcomed to PM me. Thanks.

Hi Everyone

I'm Ruth from Tails Unlimited and yes, the pet rescuer referred to in the postings in this thread. Having followed closely what has been written, I feel it's time that forummers hear it from the horse's mouth on the actual situation.

Firstly, a couple of my cats have exhibited symptoms similar to the sick cats in Australia and that was what got me very worried. All my cats were on orijen, except that for the senior cats, I mix with Acana light food while I still had the stock at that time. That was why, I asked dongdong to find out in cari.com whether anyone else has cats eating orijen that showed similar symptoms. He went further and brought this issue to this forum which was not what I intended, reason being that I did not know about the existence of this forum, otherwise I would have done it myself since this is an English forum and I'm Chinese illiterate. Maybe, he had been misunderstood since English is not his first language, but whatever it is, I know his intentions are good and he has no spiteful motives towards anyone. What is wrong with seeking other people's views?

I think Mako in his post on 28 November sounded very pompous and high-handed referring to him as 'just a college student'. He must have got this information from his boss who had met one these 'college student' when he was at our place but dongdong was not the one. I hope mako realises that many pet rescuers like us depend on students to do voluntary work and that is what dongdong and his university mates have been doing. Let me just enlighten him that it was 'college students' who built a big cat playhouse FREE OF LABOUR CHARGE for our cats. I'm sure they have more enjoyable things to do during their semester break. It is also 'college students' who bathe our dogs and take them for walks, plus a host of other tasks which people may consider too menial for them, including cleaning poo-poo, burying dead animals, minor repair works, etc. It is also 'college students' who actively promoted orijen food on cari.com, especially the 6 fish formula. Would mako be interested to know what other tasks 'college students', which he belittles, are willing to do for animals? I wonder if he would have done 1 percent of what they did. Mind you, not a single cent did they ask. In fact, dongdong and his mates have even helped to get funds to enable us to pay some big medical bills for the animals. I could go on and on........

Oh yeah, if this 'college student' is no vet, neither is mako. My suggestion is mako takes his own advice. The 'college student' takes care of his studies, he takes care of his sale of orijen and acana. I'm sure he'll have to work extra hard to get more sales.

Secondly, I resent and am very offended at being referred to as a breeder (I abhor breeding) and told that '... i don think any breeder in right mind will feed 170 cats with only orijen ....' He is a marketing personnel, therefore a representative of his company; I shall indeed heed his words and get back to my 'right' mind. Thanks, mako, for those words of caution. I believe you know best indeed. Great to know that you don't think much of the very people you service - is it that you think they can't afford to feed orijen or they are people who don't give a damn what they feed as long as they get maximum profit?

It's indeed a pity 'cos to me Orijen is an excellent food. Isolated cases do not make a food bad. EVEN IF this is the cause, I still say that Orijen is very good but, indeed, I do not want to be thought of as not in my right mind by feeding orijen. Too bad, as I have just started feeding some of dogs orijen too. Since my 170+ cats thrive on it, I thought why not the dogs. Fortunately, I've just started so the dogs won't suffer from withdrawal syndrome if I stop.

Thirdly, the issue at hand. The first cat that exhibited similar symptoms to the ones in Australia was taken to the vet before we knew about the recall. The vet couldn't diagnose his condition. As usual, it was a guessing game. Maybe this or maybe that. According to Dr Georgina Child from SASH Australia, symptoms will appear weeks, maybe months after they have started eating the food. I contacted her last week. She wanted us to send a movie of the sick cat but it was too late as that poor fella died last Sunday. Since then, 2 more have died and surprisingly, the wobbly small kitten (wobbling all over) survived. At first, the vet said it could be a virus he got from his mother. He seems more steady now except that he always cocked his head to one side. Now, the vet said it could be some ear infection that causes the imbalance. I give up. What next? More guessing games. I've another cat, which according to the vet, is suffering from thiamine deficiency. He was on eagle pack until we changed to orijen. When he was sick, we fed him wet food. The vet suggested to give him vitamin B and a no fish diet. He was doing very well for some months. He could walk and jump. Then, we partially changed him back to kibbles. At about the time that my first cat showed the symptoms, he started to have stiff limbs. He couldn't walk at all. Now, he's in a paralytic state. We stopped his kibbles and went back to wet food. We're waiting to see if it helps.

Anyway, I've requested for an autopsy to be done on 2 of the dead cats as I want to know the cause of death - not to find fault with any product but for the sake of my other cats. But I believe in Malaysia it is easier for the camel to go through the needle's eye than to get the results of the autopsy, given the lackadaisical state of things towards animals here. I'm speaking from previous experience on a biopsy done on my cat that had since died. Incredible but till today, I have yet to get the report. Not surprising, if we're unable to have the autopsy done, knowing how things are. But, we will most certainly push our vet for it.

Incidentally, I hope the marketing personnel of Artemis and Sigma 7 won't think that I'm not in my right mind since I'm feeding these 2 brands to all my cats and dogs. As dongdong has made it very clear, we feed top grade food to our animals because we want to reduce visits to the vet. Rather spend on good food and supplements than on antibiotics. This is the reason we operate a petshop; so that we can get the best food, supplements and accessories for them at a lower rate. Sometimes, it's tough especially when sales are slow but thank God, the animals have never lacked in anything. We feed them well and we try to give them a good life. After all, why would we want to rescue them if not to treat them well?

Having said all this, I hope that in future, mako will not make assumptions that pet rescuers or breeders will not feed top grade food to their animals, even if they have a big number.

I want to end by inviting anyone who is interested to see what we do for animals to pay us a visit. You can also contact dongdong. Oh, by the way, we DON'T SELL ANIMALS.

That is glad heard from you Ruth.It has been brought to you attention about this matter. I can saw it was total differ story told about the pet rescuers by mention pet foods salesman. If not all people pointing Dongdong wrongly. Now here I able to get the picture and understand who is right and fake.
Thanks again for the justification.