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TScrescence
post Nov 23 2008, 10:30 PM, updated 18y ago

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I've just bought a 16gb 3g iphone from lowyat plaza. The salesman said that its officially unlocked from singtell. Went home, checked the model number, it's MB496T (Italy?) instead of the ZA/A used for Singaporean iPhones. Is my iPhone officially unlocked or have I been conned?

Anyways, I tried syncing it to my itunes, but this message popped up:
An iPhone has been detected, but it could not be identified properly. Please disconnect and reconnect the iPhone, then try again.

As many times as I tried reconnecting it, the same message popped up.

Help, anyone?
Thanks.
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:32 PM

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Yeah.....you have been cheated by the seller itself. Most probably , you are getting a locked set. smile.gif
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:33 PM

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Bro, Sorry.. I think u've been conned.. Singapore set should be come with ZA/A model number..

How much get yours? Try go back to the shop and ask for refund.. If not report it to Consumer Tribunal..
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:35 PM

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Got it for 3.2k. together with loads of apps that they put in. So the message is typical for locked sets?
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:35 PM

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how much u bought it?
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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 23 2008, 10:35 PM)
Got it for 3.2k. together with loads of apps that they put in. So the message is typical for locked sets?
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OMG! They selling Locked Unit for freaking RM3.2k?
-If your Unit is Official unlock, just plug it in iTunes and it will unlock by itself.. no need to do nething.

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post Nov 23 2008, 10:41 PM

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may i know which shop u buy from? is it the shop near the escalator one?
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 23 2008, 10:30 PM)
I've just bought a 16gb 3g iphone from lowyat plaza. The salesman said that its officially unlocked from singtell. Went home, checked the model number, it's MB496T (Italy?) instead of the ZA/A used for Singaporean iPhones. Is my iPhone officially unlocked or have I been conned?

Anyways, I tried syncing it to my itunes, but this message popped up:
An iPhone has been detected, but it could not be identified properly. Please disconnect and reconnect the iPhone, then try again.

As many times as I tried reconnecting it, the same message popped up.

Help, anyone?
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try fit in malaysia sim card.....n see what d iphone 3G show...
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:44 PM

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Well, they SAID that it was an officially unlocked unit from Singapore. Since most units I see here are priced around 3k, I thought it was quite a deal since they didn't charge the usual 2% extra credit card charge.

@beavis: I've already inserted my maxis card. I can use it normally, made calls, sent SMSes.


Added on November 23, 2008, 10:46 pm@malayneum: No, between the samsung and sony ericsson shops, there is like, a place where there are lots of booths. Bought it at one of the booths there. I'm at campus right now, my receipt is at home, can't check the company name.

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post Nov 23 2008, 10:48 PM

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post Nov 23 2008, 10:49 PM

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maybe is locked set by using simfree?
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:49 PM

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@nokia2003: I'm in campus in Semenyih.

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post Nov 23 2008, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(seongboi @ Nov 23 2008, 10:49 PM)
maybe is locked set by using simfree?
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negative. italy belongs to the officially unlocked group.
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 23 2008, 10:44 PM)
Well, they SAID that it was an officially unlocked unit from Singapore. Since most units I see here are priced around 3k, I thought it was quite a deal since they didn't charge the usual 2% extra credit card charge.

@beavis: I've already inserted my maxis card. I can use it normally, made calls, sent SMSes.


Added on November 23, 2008, 10:46 pm@malayneum: No, between the samsung and sony ericsson shops, there is like, a place where there are lots of booths. Bought it at one of the booths there. I'm at campus right now, my receipt is at home, can't check the company name.
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if maxis sim card can be use..then this unit is already unlocked lor........did u stick any sim unlocker to your sim card?



to check whether it is officially unlock.....u can try restrore your iphone......then in itune it will inform u whether your iphone is officially unlocked or locked...
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(beavis68 @ Nov 23 2008, 10:50 PM)
if maxis sim card can be use..then this unit is already unlocked lor........did u stick any sim unlocker to your sim card?
to check whether it is officially unlock.....u can try restrore your iphone......then in itune it will inform u whether your iphone is officially unlocked or locked...
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that method is slightly outdated and old fashioned. look out for my thread to understand further.
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:51 PM

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@beavis68: They put my simcard in themselves, but i took out my sim, and there are no attachments to it.


Added on November 23, 2008, 10:54 pm@nokia2003: Read through the thread, but I still do not know how to check that my iPhone is oficially unlocked.

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post Nov 23 2008, 10:55 PM

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irregardless if ur set from italy or singapore..

as long its unlock then should be okay
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:55 PM

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The salesman said that its officially unlocked from singtel. And now Italy? sweat.gif

p/s: Sincere Salesman eh?

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post Nov 23 2008, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 23 2008, 10:49 PM)
@nokia2003: I'm in campus in Semenyih.
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ha ha. Nottingham? if you are around in my area, i don't mind having a look at it.


Added on November 23, 2008, 10:56 pmi'm having my holidays now; bored stiff!

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post Nov 23 2008, 10:58 PM

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@nokia2003: Hahahaha yup. Nottingham. TTDI? Might think about it. Anyways, no way to find out through the information I gave?
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post Nov 23 2008, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 23 2008, 10:58 PM)
@nokia2003: Hahahaha yup. Nottingham. TTDI? Might think about it. Anyways, no way to find out through the information I gave?
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nope. there is no way that i can evaluate it as i have never encountered such incidents.
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post Nov 23 2008, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Nov 23 2008, 11:02 PM)
nope. there is no way that i can evaluate it as i have never encountered such incidents.
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Will you be able to find out what's the problem if you take a look at it?
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post Nov 23 2008, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 23 2008, 11:10 PM)
Will you be able to find out what's the problem if you take a look at it?
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i cannot guarantee anything per se, but i'm curious myself
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post Nov 23 2008, 11:17 PM

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lol, looks like theres a good guy to help u, don worry mate.
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:01 AM

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Lesson for the day :

Do some research before buying anything that you have no idea about
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:05 AM

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tbh...3.2k is pretty darn steep imo....
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Fighteden @ Nov 24 2008, 12:01 AM)
Lesson for the day :

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Hahaha. Yup, I know I'm guilty of that. I bought it on impulse.

@jaybee: The usual price I see here is around 3k-3.1k. The salesman said that he'll install 5 pages worth of apps for an extra 100. The phone alone is actually 3.1k. I thought it was okay. biggrin.gif

Anyways, I'm going to go back to the shop to ask the salesman.
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:19 AM

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Bro, wish u good luck. May god bless you.
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 24 2008, 12:17 AM)
Hahaha. Yup, I know I'm guilty of that. I bought it on impulse.

@jaybee: The usual price I see here is around 3k-3.1k. The salesman said that he'll install 5 pages worth of apps for an extra 100. The phone alone is actually 3.1k. I thought it was okay. biggrin.gif

Anyways, I'm going to go back to the shop to ask the salesman.
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1. you are probably (unless they are free apps, which i dare to bet that they are not!) using pirated/cracked apps then and they are not welcomed here. hence do not discuss about them.

2. rm100 for 5 pages of cracked apps? a pirate trying to rip even further for an extra mile? oh come on!!!

3. which is why perhaps (another speculation by me) your iphone is not recognisable by itunes.

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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 23 2008, 10:30 PM)
I've just bought a 16gb 3g iphone from lowyat plaza. The salesman said that its officially unlocked from singtell. Went home, checked the model number, it's MB496T (Italy?) instead of the ZA/A used for Singaporean iPhones. Is my iPhone officially unlocked or have I been conned?
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Based on your Model Number given, I've checked the list.... results as below.
â—† Italy (Carrier : TIM)
Full Model Number : MB496T/A

â—† Italy (Carrier : Vodafone)
Full Model Number : MB496T/A

â—† Turkey (Carrier : TurkCell)
Full Model Number : MB496TU/A

â—† Turkey (Carrier : Vodafone)
Full Model Number : MB496TU/A ** Authorized Unlocking can be done by Carrier **

Most probably you are getting an UNLOCKED unit but definitely NOT Singapore unit. You really need to check the Full Model Number at the back of the box (left bottom)


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5 pages worth of apps for an extra 100.
That is just part of the tactic for salesmen to close their sales only... aren't they ?
Having 5 pages of Apps worth RM100 ? most probably they are using cracked/pirated Apps/Games downloaded from Internet as quoted by Nokia2003.
It is more worth it if you buy ORI, hassle and update free at all.

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if you in setapak area, with laptop, i dun mind have a look. although i am not as good as nokia sifu , but maybe i can do something >.<
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post Nov 24 2008, 09:10 AM

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I got myself 2 ori programs (Beejive n Wordbook) already cost me like RM80... 5 pages of programs dunno how much need to pay liao biggrin.gif
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post Nov 24 2008, 10:23 AM

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cheated ..... should sruvey 1st at LOWYAT .net , not Lowyat....
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post Nov 24 2008, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(crescence @ Nov 23 2008, 10:30 PM)
I've just bought a 16gb 3g iphone from lowyat plaza. The salesman said that its officially unlocked from singtell. Went home, checked the model number, it's MB496T (Italy?) instead of the ZA/A used for Singaporean iPhones. Is my iPhone officially unlocked or have I been conned?

Anyways, I tried syncing it to my itunes, but this message popped up:
An iPhone has been detected, but it could not be identified properly. Please disconnect and reconnect the iPhone, then try again.

As many times as I tried reconnecting it, the same message popped up
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Help, anyone?
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try it on another computer, u're using windows? might be USB driver problem..

and the part where u said it comes with lots of application, I'm assuming this is a second hand unit, u will need to clear the whole iPhone via iTunes, if u were to install the application u need.

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QUOTE(V3000 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:10 AM)
I got myself 2 ori programs (Beejive n Wordbook) already cost me like RM80... 5 pages of programs dunno how much need to pay liao biggrin.gif
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5 pages all free apps is possible? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Unless he gets those "free apps" on his computer that he is going to sync it in with, those apps will be gone once he plug it in, and turn on iTunes, since those apps were synced with a different computer, and a new computer sync will wipe out the apps entirely when synced as a new iPhone.

I'm sorry, but you have been conned big time. Apps on iPhones are not like Windows Mobile where you can keep when syncing with different computers. Lesson learned the hard way, eh?
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Nov 24 2008, 11:14 AM)
Unless he gets those "free apps" on his computer that he is going to sync it in with, those apps will be gone once he plug it in, and turn on iTunes, since those apps were synced with a different computer, and a new computer sync will wipe out the apps entirely when synced as a new iPhone.

I'm sorry, but you have been conned big time. Apps on iPhones are not like Windows Mobile where you can keep when syncing with different computers. Lesson learned the hard way, eh?
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Geee.RM3200 spent for an iPhone. But at least the good news is it's an official unlock unit. All you need to do now is connect to your PC and click on the restore button (who cares those pirated apps they installed!) and the phone should be spanking new from there.
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QUOTE(V3000 @ Nov 24 2008, 09:10 AM)
I got myself 2 ori programs (Beejive n Wordbook) already cost me like RM80... 5 pages of programs dunno how much need to pay liao biggrin.gif
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Ain't it typically Malaysian. You can buy a 3K plus phone but cannot pay for software...

How much does RM80 get you these days anyway? Were not Beejive and Wordbook worth the investment.
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Yup, lesson learned here.

On a related note, NZD has gone BELOW 2.0, 1.97 now! NZ Aifontrijis are going for less than RM2200 after conversion. Damn it, if I had waited I could have saved RM600! A friend is going there tonight, and he's happy doing his Aifontriji shopping now, problem is Vodafone is noticing the weak NZD and being an ******* about selling outright phones. Lucky Cocklea saves the day again. notworthy.gif
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:28 PM

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no kidding..... conned big time.... aiseyeh man.... well lesson to learn.... anyhow....since u bought it.... hopefully the iphone works....

if not its time u pow tht seller kaw2!

hahahahaha
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if all the apps were the free version, still can transfer to itunes what?
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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Nov 24 2008, 11:29 AM)
Ain't it typically Malaysian. You can buy a 3K plus phone but cannot pay for software...

How much does RM80 get you these days anyway? Were not Beejive and Wordbook worth the investment.
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Funny, did i ever say not worth it? 2 program cost rm80 imagine how much does it cost for 5 pages of programs. Truly typically malaysian dont read properly bfore reply lol smile.gif
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hey bro.. i got my SG set for 2950 la... =.=
official unlock no prob at all!!

go scold the guy who cheat u!!!
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i still say the salesman cheated u even if the unit r unlocked. he mentioend it's a sing's unit so it need to be a sing's unit and not italy, turket or spagetthi.

try to bug for refund and reshop again. just try ur luck lo.

make a big fuss at the shop and scare away walk-in customer.

that'll get their attention.
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You should look into Quick Pwning the bugger. Also dont upgrade to the latested 2.2 firm or update your itunes cus the latest patch is out.

Do some research it took me a day of doing nothing at work to work out how to crack my 16GB 3G Iphone. Also took me a while to figure out how to put all these free apps in.
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QUOTE(lowcb88 @ Nov 24 2008, 03:58 PM)
You should look into Quick Pwning the bugger. Also dont upgrade to the latested 2.2 firm or update your itunes cus the latest patch is out.

Do some research it took me a day of doing nothing at work to work out how to crack my 16GB 3G Iphone. Also took me a while to figure out how to put all these free apps in.
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hahahahahha.... u think ure not doing any work today....??? whistling.gif
wel... since its fun.. i guss wht the heck.. (since i dont have anything to do right now)

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Thats the beauty of work, look busy.

Its monday what the hell 4 more days of those nonsense.

Iphone has some really good apps out there make sure you make good use of the full benefits of unlocking it.


Added on November 24, 2008, 5:40 pmhttp://www.quickpwn.com/

Firmware 2.2 has just been PWN for anyone interested in upgrading their iphone firmware

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QUOTE(lowcb88 @ Nov 24 2008, 04:08 PM)
Thats the beauty of work, look busy.

Its monday what the hell 4 more days of those nonsense.

Iphone has some really good apps out there make sure you make good use of the full benefits of unlocking it.


Added on November 24, 2008, 5:40 pmhttp://www.quickpwn.com/

Firmware 2.2 has just been PWN for anyone interested in upgrading their iphone firmware
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Wow, thats quick rclxub.gif
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Just trying to upgrade my phone now damn scared it doesnt work tongue.gif
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I bought mine SD1160= rm2,820 a week ago VERSION 2.1 (5F136).

Do i need to update to 2.2?
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QUOTE(VIPER808 @ Nov 25 2008, 12:49 AM)
I bought mine SD1160= rm2,820 a week ago VERSION 2.1 (5F136).

Do i need to update to 2.2?
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If u use Safari alot, Then upgrade it.. I dont see any crash with this 2.2 FW.
-Btw bro, nice price.. i got mine month ago for 3.2k sad.gif
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Always do a research to check around before u buy something. Yet is quite expensive thing.


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U should have bought from twinkles.. Cheaper, Reliable and trustworthy. Most important the set he sell is virgin and in seal box biggrin.gif

I got mine from him and is officially unlock set is from Italy

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