You are welcome to join our yum cha sessions and gatherings. Can always PM De Lonely or luc as they tend to have a few gatherings now and then.

Remember, next gathering must be after 18 Dec LOL....

Yes, I see this thread become chat room already, which is really sad lah since the ones that are doing most of the nonsense chatting are senior members while newbies ask the questions. Too bad I still can't online often.

If this thread goes through another flame or chat session, other moderators may take action.

Wah, congrats! Why never tell me got joeys? LOL

Anyway, I don't think 2 sets. Each lump means 1 joey. 2 lumps means 2 joeys. Unless you kena special case, coz 4 joeys is like very very rare.

Better neuter Cairo loh....

So the new joey is called Lulu.... then Dakota.... then Autumn.... then Ken.... then what ah? LOL.

What you do? Rub his tummy? HAhahah...

Now you know how I feel with Keera hahahah. Anyway, I'm starting to cage Keera, poor girl is not taking it well. I think depress, her cage is right next to my bed but I guess she miss her free ranging freedom. Now always sleep and eat, doesn't want to come out to play. She didn't even bark for the past 5 days since I put her in a cage.

Yes, of course got dealers and permits around. You just need to find an agent to help you. You can do it on your own, but then I'm not sure what are the procedurs or price is like. My friend's dad paid RM1k or RM2k to export his gliders to Indonesia when he had to migrate there. He also looked for an agent. Petshops dealing with wildlife could help a bit with guidance or info.

Smuggling is risky, coz they may not give you back the exotic..... I think they won't give back also if kena caught smuggling.

You can also call Perhilitan to find out.

Of course they would be scared coz you are a stranger to them. I think the sound could be crabbing. Barking is normally to call. When gliders are scared they crab, sounds like chainsaw or a motor.

If you are afraid of them, then they would never be tame and familiar to you. You have to touch them and yes, what your friend said, handfeed them. Gliders only bond and tame well if you touch and hold them and spend time with them.

You have to overcome your fear. Then get a bonding pouch and slowly make them get used to your scent and touch. It would take some time for them to warm up to you but it is totally worth it. Follow the steps like how you bond with joeys. It is almost the same. Hand feeding fruits, yogurt and mealworms can create a closer bond although sometimes a bit of biting happens but then it is normal with animals that have a mouth.

The pain depends. If they nip, then no bleeding but it can vary from a toothpick kind of pain to a pinching pain. If they are terribly scared, it would be a hard bite, the skin can become blue black from the bite a bit. It depends how scared and how human- friendly they are to people.

Takes time. No worries, just Google a bit on bonding and taming, then you should be fine. Avoid using gloves coz it can delay the bonding time. Some people use those camping tents for bonding with adults, which works very well. So you can try Googling that up.

You can view my blog, I did an article on glider sounds with a link. Also explained it. If barking, is really like a puppy bark, sharp and slightly high pitch. Crabbing is like some motor car engine kena start or like chain saw. It's like krek krek.... LOL, hard to explain with words. I bet you can youtube it.

Gliders make sounds. Alot of different sounds to show their mood and emotions.

Mealworms are their favourite food, so they would look aggressive when wanna eat. i usually do not get bitten, sometimes got accidents lah when my gliders snatch it from my fingers too fast, then I can feel their teeth a bit but it never bleed. Just like a pinch.

Feeding mealworms, normally 10 a day is enough coz it is high in fat and phosphorus. You can give crickets as well.

No problem. Happy to help.

Mealworms sedap mah. But tak bagus. Fat mealworms tinggi, lagi phosphorus pun tinggi. Gliders kalau makan too much mealworms boleh separuh buta. Nanti kat mata will have satu layer putih, but it will hilang once stop fatty food lah. Kena bagi fruits. Bagilah honey dew, ciku, nangka, jambu air manis, rambutan.... try try every fruit kalau boleh.

Great that they love what they eat. Actually, got people want gliders over there, but just that not many willing to ship legally only.

When they are hungry, will eat. You try jangan bagi mealworms satu hair. Letak je fruits and see dia makan ke tak. I think sure makan kalau lapar.

RIP to Mumbles. Sad day when I heard about it.

Snake dance is normal when gliders are excited. It can be happy excited or crazy excited. LOL, also, snake dance is rare. Not every glider would do it in front of you. When they are this excited, any small action you do would make them jump here and there and act damn active. It's like a sudden burst of energy. It may look like she is scared of you but she is just doing what her reflexes tell her.

LOL... it sometimes can be related to something that scare them a bit. Er.... you know the feeling you sit roller coaster? Something like that, scary but exciting, a rush of adrenaline.

My Keera does that when she see plastic bag move in my room. Also when she sees feathers or something that gives her a shock at first.

Welcome elee. The staff at pet safari don't really know how to see the age. They just agak agak and listen to what the supplier says. You are considered lucky coz alot of people who get from pet safari has joeys that are only 3 weeks OOP or younger. You wanna meet up so I can check his health?

Anyway, leaving your joey at home.... normally it's ok as they sleep during the day but then you will lose precious bonding time. Joeys bond best when you carry them around while they are asleep in a pouch. But what you are doing is what some working keepers would do. They leave their joeys at home and come back to play with them till late night. What time you normally play with him? You need to do it constantly everyday or you won't be able to have a close bond with it. Also leave a worn tshirt with your sweat and smell coz it would give your joey some security and also to like your scent.




You are always welcome. Just some people got problems.

It is interesting to know about the food and microbes. Lucky you to know them.



True true. Also, glider research is still new, as they have only been pets for the last 20 odd years in the USA.

How's your boys doing? I think I forgot to return you one of your feeding cups

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Long time didn't see you online How's everything? Wanna see your cuties.

Awww.... sleepy sleepy.

Staining can be caused by various things..... if no coconut also, it can be from food, the cage bars, pee residue on certain things. Age can also be the cause of colour fading too.

It won't cause blindness. It should drop off. If the food residue still on the eye, just take a wet piece of tissue and lightly dab it out.

Hahaha... cute pic. Which one is this lah?

Most of the fleece here are synthetic. Got thinner and thicker variety too. I saw alot sold at pasar malams too but I think quality also different. Another place is Ikea but theirs are synthetic, something like polyester mixed or something.

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Who would like to attend a sugar glider gathering and workshop with Dr Vellayan? He would like to organize a sugar glider gathering. If I can get more than 10 people to join, then will get on with the dates and also venue. Please PM me if interested.

Dr Vellayan, he wishes to have a glider gathering. I just need to gather people for him hahaah.

He's retired from Zoo negara. 27 years experience as wildlife vet. Erm.... his credentials too long to write LOL. But he treats sugar gliders and other exotic pets as his part time hobby now. Day time lecturer at uitm, weekends he is the vet consultant at sunway wildlife zoo.

Hahaha... cute buggers. So how many you have now?

All Petsmore is the same. The workers do not know how to care for gliders. Sometimes I see apples inside, then not so bad. But kuaci.... gliders don't have instinct to eat kuaci like rodents. I've not visited Petsmore petaling street for months already since so busy, but I guess its all the same.

Great pouch rite?

I saw the pic of them playing with the hibiscus tree. Nice. How much you got the tree for?

Hi luc

Happy holidays and lunar new year to all too.

Get from a proper breeder. PW always sell gliders for RM488, underage joey or adult also same price. Not worth buying coz sometimes can be sick or something else.... no one knows loh.

You know the responsibilities of breeding? Not easy.... rejected joeys, or overbreeding.... or cannibalism..... must read before get a female.

We always advice people to get older females to a younger male so that the female won't breed at such a young age. Breeding before it is fully mature, means below 10 months is quite harsh on their health and bodies. Best is at 10 months or a year old. Get your boy neutered then ok lah.

Wow, Italian names.

Let your new DD rest for 24 hours in his cage. Then transfer him into a bonding pouch and carry him a bit. Do alot of talking, touching through the pouch. Once he gets familiar with you, then you can cup him in your hand but do it when is comfortable with you. Covering the cage with your clothes is a good start already. If can, get some tissue, wipe your neck with it and put the tissue in the sleeping pouch too.

2 years old? Well, introducing a young male is ok. But they will breed.... plan your next step if you wanna breed. I don't have any breeding articles yet in my blog, but there is an article on introducing. Please read it yah.

Of course they will breed lah. But then I give you example. Let's talk human terms. Which is better to have babies? A 12 year old girl or a 20 year old girl? At 12, a girl can get pregnant already. Boys can even father children as early as 10 years old. So for gliders, a male if he matures fast, can start breeding as early. A female can get pregnant at 7 or 8 months.... is it good for them to breed while they are still growing? No right? So of course an older female with a younger male is a safer bet if you want to keep a pair.... but then need to think, do you want to breed your gliders for life? A female can keep breeding till 8 years old.... if nobody wants joeys, what would happen? Sell it to pet shop? A lot of things to think about. So do plan carefully yah..... there is always neutering to consider.

I know some people do this. They buy 1 pair, let them breed once, then the male straight away gets neutered. Well, this depends on you. Buying a single sex pair saves neutering cost as well as save you the headache of joeys.

Dr Yeoh isn't so good with gliders. A few forumers have bad experience. Not very experience with gliders and they do guessing game a bit. He is ok with health checks and neutering but if your glider is sick and you go for treatment, it would be firstly expensive and it may not recover. Dr Yeoh is also not around much, so his other vets in the clinic take cares of stuff....

I would still only go back to Dr Jenny at Hands and Paws or Dr Vellayan from Zoo Negara...