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post Nov 20 2008, 09:07 PM, updated 17y ago

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I've just receive a call from CIMB Investment today, just after 2 days i emailed my resume. I'm asked to attend to interview on monday.

Do anyone have any experience undergoing this programme?

How long do i need to wait for them to confirm me for the job? Because I feels bad declining other job offer that come during the waiting period. in fact on monday, i have another interview in the afternoon.

How's their pay? and what kind of test or interview do they hv?
izit tought? coz i'm from science background. I don't mind long working hours, but really hate doing sales. what's their job like?

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ciimb management progrmme? they offer u do?? or 1st interview only?? might have to go through series of interview..and i tot ppl say cimb cutting down ppl y got hire u somemore?hehe
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Nov 20 2008, 09:25 PM)
ciimb management progrmme? they offer u do?? or 1st interview only?? might have to go through series of interview..and i tot ppl say cimb cutting down ppl y got hire u somemore?hehe
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yeah, 1st interview.

cutting down ppl? so u don't think they plan to hire? so y they call?

then i better don't decline other offers yet.
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post Nov 20 2008, 09:45 PM

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dun listen to me only la..i mean i heard ppl say..better u check out yourself cuz i also not sure about that..but if got better offer come then take lo..cuz 1st interview only u not sure wil get or not the job


Added on November 20, 2008, 9:47 pmdun listen to me only la..i mean i heard ppl say..better u check out yourself cuz i also not sure about that..but if got better offer come then take lo..cuz 1st interview only u not sure wil get or not the job

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post Nov 20 2008, 09:48 PM

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no ah. no cutting ppl off.

those buggers only cut down air-con during lunch hour! vmad.gif
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post Nov 20 2008, 09:49 PM

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Definitely don't reject any other concrete offer over 1st interview smile.gif
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post Nov 20 2008, 09:55 PM

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If it's the complete banker programme, that's quite selective. got 4 rounds of interview. so declining other offers might not be a good idea.
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post Nov 20 2008, 09:59 PM

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so if i accept other offer and start work already, then CIMB call and ask me go for another interview. then how?

i really dunno how to handle this kind of situation.
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(HanYH @ Nov 20 2008, 09:49 PM)
Definitely don't reject any other concrete offer over 1st interview smile.gif
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May I know what was your major in school? I'm just trying to find out what type of people the banks are accepting, thank you!
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(HanYH @ Nov 20 2008, 10:00 PM)
May I know what was your major in school? I'm just trying to find out what type of people the banks are accepting, thank you!
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i'm majoring in medical bioscience. actually surprise that they call me.

but i'm worried about the assessment since i totally got zero knowledge in business and finance
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QUOTE(HanYH @ Nov 20 2008, 10:00 PM)
May I know what was your major in school? I'm just trying to find out what type of people the banks are accepting, thank you!
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they will accept any major. multimed, psychology, IT ,engineer, u name it! it's the attitude that matters!
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QUOTE(Winning11 @ Nov 20 2008, 10:09 PM)
they will accept any major. multimed, psychology, IT ,engineer, u name it! it's the attitude that matters!
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are u CIMB employee? can shed some light here on their MT programme? and how long does the assessment take?
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:18 PM

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u got job offer still can go for interview ma..juz dun let your employer know about it..many many ppl do that including me..hehe
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:18 PM

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another stupid question from me:

Is this like a training in Investment Banking industry?
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Nov 20 2008, 10:18 PM)
u got job offer still can go for interview ma..juz dun let your employer know about it..many many ppl do that including me..hehe
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but since i'm a new employee, i can't just take MC or leave and dissapear for 1 day for the interview, right?

so frustrating. the other job interview is double A company.
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post Nov 20 2008, 10:44 PM

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Don't turn down any offers until u sign a agreement letter to work for a specific company

As we all knows, economy is bad now. looking for a good job is a very very tough task.

Good luck amanda
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post Nov 20 2008, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(HanYH @ Nov 20 2008, 10:18 PM)
another stupid question from me:

Is this like a training in Investment Banking industry?
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I got few friends doing their MT programme. Yeah you could sort of say its a training thing. You'll be rotated within the CIMB Group, but not necessarily just doing IB work. They may rotate you to do other things within the CIMB Group like credit cards, loan processing, internal audit, etc... Depends on your luck and each division's staffing requirements i guess.
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post Nov 20 2008, 11:07 PM

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hi amanda, how did u apply for this programme? i've not seen any advertisement about the MT programme

ok, i saw your reply in another thread, thx for the info... i guess i will try my luck as well biggrin.gif

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post Nov 21 2008, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Nov 20 2008, 10:07 AM)
hi amanda, how did u apply for this programme? i've not seen any advertisement about the MT programme

ok, i saw your reply in another thread, thx for the info... i guess i will try my luck as well biggrin.gif
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Umm, so how did Amanda apply? I can't find the other thread. THANKS! smile.gif
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QUOTE(HanYH @ Nov 21 2008, 12:51 AM)
Umm, so how did Amanda apply? I can't find the other thread. THANKS!  smile.gif
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i guess wat u lookin for is here: http://www.cimb.com/index.php?ch=group_ch_...&tpt=cimb_group
dude google for it nex time ok
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post Nov 22 2008, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Nov 20 2008, 09:25 PM)
ciimb management progrmme? they offer u do?? or 1st interview only?? might have to go through series of interview..and i tot ppl say cimb cutting down ppl y got hire u somemore?hehe
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Old staff paid high salary, taken new staff with low paid salary and get high performance. So hiring is one of cutting down cost in company.
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i went to the 1st interview on monday too... they got some behaviour test or some sort before u get ur interview. there are a few tips i think i can share wif u which i cant answer tht time...

they ask me beside malaysia, is there any branches around the world and where.. prepare to hafal at least 5 man... i onli remember 2....

remember the name of the chairman and others board of director... they asked me this and i fail to answer..

how many division in the group...

the programme basic salary is rm3k.. if u pass all, u r in the contract for 2 years.. but u will be an official employee after 1 year.... if i not mistaken, if u r under perform and they fire u, u need to pay back the salary 1....
i think u need to attend 2 month classes be4 on job trainning... not sure... they told me 1....
anyway good luck...
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QUOTE(thy1986 @ Nov 21 2008, 10:30 PM)
i went to the 1st interview on monday too... they got some behaviour test or some sort before u get ur interview. there are a few tips i think i can share wif u which i cant answer tht time...

they ask me beside malaysia, is there any branches around the world and where.. prepare to hafal at least 5 man... i onli remember 2....

remember the name of the chairman and others board of director... they asked me this and i fail to answer..

how many division in the group...

the programme basic salary is rm3k.. if u pass all, u r in the contract for 2 years.. but u will be an official employee after 1 year.... if i not mistaken, if u r under perform and they fire u, u need to pay back the salary 1....
i think u need to attend 2 month classes be4 on job trainning... not sure... they told me 1....
anyway good luck...
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WHAT? What type of questions are those? Names of chairman and board directors? doh.gif

I usually only go through their accomplishments and background but never bothered to remember their names. I don't think this is a fair way of testing whether or not you know the company well. Another typical example of "memorization" in Malaysia sad.gif
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VERY GOOD JOB !!!
CAREER PATH GOOD !!!
GOT POTENTIAL BECOME HIGH LEVEL MANAGER IN FUTURE !!!
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not really. it shows that you are dedicated to the company and of course key achievements come from key managers.

board of directors each contribute to the rapid growth and development of the CIMB bank merge and what nots. so yes, all are integral.

and btw, i'm sure u would think twice about hiring someone into a YOUR company when they dun even know u're the boss or CEO.

to know the company's inner works demonstrates something.
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=.='' I guess it's relevant since it also test whether u read the newspaper or not.

Who don't know the boss of CIMB is Nazir Razak, our PM-in-waiting's brother?
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QUOTE(thy1986 @ Nov 22 2008, 11:30 AM)

if i not mistaken, if u r under perform and they fire u, u need to pay back the salary 1....

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crazy man!! pay back the salary?? i think i better don't risk myself. what do they mean by under perform?
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i really have no idea about the under perform thing...
maybe other lyn members who is in this programme can tell u in details....

anyway i agree i make a silly mistake in the interview...i remember the name is Nazri Razak but tht time i not very sure so i tell them i don remember.... can u imagine the interview might become worst if i say the wrong name? if like tht i don think i got any chance straight after the interview.....

i think this programme really sounds promising... and i just hope to tell other lyn members wat they asked me onli.... good luck...
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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Nov 20 2008, 10:14 PM)
are u CIMB employee? can shed some light here on their MT programme? and how long does the assessment take?
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i'm did not join CIMB through the MT programme though. they did not have this kind of programme for us at that time...


Added on November 23, 2008, 10:42 pm
QUOTE(yewe83 @ Nov 22 2008, 01:25 PM)
VERY GOOD JOB !!!
CAREER PATH GOOD !!!
GOT POTENTIAL BECOME HIGH LEVEL MANAGER IN FUTURE !!!
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you must be kidding...

but... YAH!!! SURE GOT POTENTIAL!!!

BRACE YOURSELF IF YOU GET THE JOB!!!

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Amanda, you went for the interview today? or did you decline? how was it? come share with us XD

tho im not interested in the bank line, it'd be a good experience to hear from a diversity of line.

what some of my friends told me... remember when you were shopping in the complexes when a young man/ lady hands you leaflet or talk you into subscribing for their bank's credit card? well they are normally degree holders doing Sales...

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ya .. i heard b4 too.. those who had out the leaflet to ask u to join their credit card plan are degree holder.. they are actually sales executive.. name nice bt actually salesman la.. hahaha
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>__< it's actually pretty sad... but i guess in the end, it's also one of the sales method. i wonder how many customers they can subscribe per day. most people are pretty reluctant. there are people who decline nicely, but there are also some who are ruddy rude.
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one day i think the most will be 10-20.. hahha.. mostly malay customer hahah.. no offence... malay spending power seem to be powered more by credit base..
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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Nov 24 2008, 11:19 AM)
one day i think the most will be 10-20.. hahha.. mostly malay customer hahah.. no offence... malay spending power seem to be powered more by credit base..
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wow u serious? that's a lot i'd say. i tot perhaps they'll have about 5 to 10 customers per day. i guess you're indicating a weekend? weekdays less people go shopping... smaller crowd...
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ya tat is on weekend.. hahah if weekdays.. jus take midvalley for an example .. seem dead to me.. any way they work mostly on weekend.. weekdays they work in office.. i think la.. so is basically 7 days a week workdays.. hahaha..
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you do not do sales in CIMB's management trainee program.
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yalor, where is our dear amanda85?

anyway Salience u go thru the programme be4? u seems to know the programme kinda well... anyway if they got rotate during training they might be a chance for ppl to do sales....but maybe not credit card sales but is more towards housing loan, business loan those gua....

i'm juz analyzing... whistling.gif
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u rotate to divisions in the bank. refer to cimb's website for their business divisions. u get rotated around these divisions

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most prob they will just throw the trainees in Retail Credit side or Recovery side
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TS, how was the interview.. we will be waiting for your feedback tongue.gif
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oh yeah. i think i flunked it.

i memorize the division n board of directors, branch and etc.

but when she asked me 'what is asset management?'... my mind goes blank.

anyway, she still explain to me about the programme and the 4 level of assessment and ask me to wait for answer.
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ooo, the interviewer din ask u the thing she asked me?

anyway don giv up hope 1st, ur mistake is minor wat.... if u noe all the things u no need go for 2 month class room trainning edi.... good luck anyway...
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Anyone working in CIMB Investment? Care to share the working culture there....
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Anyone working in CIMB Investment? Care to share the working culture there....
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great $$$. no joke!
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QUOTE(Winning11 @ Nov 26 2008, 11:13 AM)
great $$$. no joke!
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What you mean great $$$. I have an interview this week... unsure.gif

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management trainee? Winning11,mind to explain?
anyone work with CIMB here?sound interesting...work wit Bank before...
might wanna try if all of you say its good....


can email or pm me...thanks


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you do not do sales in CIMB's management trainee program.
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are u working in CIMB too?
so what is the job scope for this management trainee?

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QUOTE(Grimlock8888 @ Nov 26 2008, 03:08 PM)
What you mean great $$$. I have an interview this week... unsure.gif
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salary scale, bonus payment is better than CIMB Bank.
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anyone already at final interview stages? after presentation?
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issit possible for me to apply now? tongue.gif
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yup...i think the position still open... The new intake class start on 9th Jan if not mistaken

CIMB investment bank is one of the most aggresive investment bank around...so if u r in the department...i think the salary and bonus will be a "WOW" factor........

good luck... rclxms.gif
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How many stages are there for the entire interview process and how long does it usually take for the bank to get back to the applicants? The reason why I'm asking is because I won't be back in Malaysia till mid December, so I'm just wondering whether or not there is sufficient time for me to apply. Thanks smile.gif

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I am interested in job like investment bank , any expert can share ? what is the requirement ??

I am a degree holder, with business background.
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salary scale, bonus payment is better than CIMB Bank.
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I noticed that all Mgmt Trainee program are offered to those with 1 year experience or less. Does anyone have any idea about that? I dont see any logic for hiring people who are inexperienced.
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simple. to groom young talents into cimb's culture and inner works.

once u develop a strong foundation in cimb, ur prospects to move up the corporate ladder are better and they of course, prefer to have people which are tailored for the job; hence, management trainees.
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2 things stand out for me here :

- the need to have all round knowledge for the interviews and

- fact that a MT programme may not give you a IB place unless it is IB specific.
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thank you for your timely reply salience smile.gif .

I am just wondering if 2HK is replying to me?

I m a fresh gra and seems like the market is absolutely tough for me to get ideal job like mgmt trainee (MT) in MNC..sad
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MT jobs are not easy because like i've mentioned, to groom selected individuals, they obviously have to pick really qualified ones.

your degree won't be so much an issue but your results will be.

how you fair in the interviews are subject to your own capabilities but then again, it is easy, i feel.

i would say that not ALL MT positions are ideal. they might pay good and u get a feel of different departments (some companies do not even do rotations like PBB) but in the end, u might not even end up at the dept you like. so shud u want to be in a dept. u like, u might opt for a transfer and that again, starts you at executive level.


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QUOTE(Salience @ Nov 27 2008, 03:03 PM)
MT jobs are not easy because like i've mentioned, to groom selected individuals, they obviously have to pick really qualified ones.

your degree won't be so much an issue but your results will be.

how you fair in the interviews are subject to your own capabilities but then again, it is easy, i feel.

i would say that not ALL MT positions are ideal. they might pay good and u get a feel of different departments (some companies do not even do rotations like PBB) but in the end, u might not even end up at the dept you like. so shud u want to be in a dept. u like, u might opt for a transfer and that again, starts you at executive level.
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request for transfer? very very hard. unless you have contacts in the dept that you wanted to be in.
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yeap. so that is basically the drawback of a management trainee. since u are exposed to several business units, u have no excuse to HR when they put u in a business unit that u are not comfortable with.

u MIGHT not even see a pay increment.
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it's hard to transfer even for those who had worked for several years, let alone MT. sweat.gif
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For the 1st stage interview, try to memorize all the services offered under islamic, investment and commercial banking by CIMB. Focus more on services in the division you want to be in.

One piece of advice to you guys, know your alphabet. Know your numbers at least from 0-50. Memorize the distance between each number or between alphabet.

know how to differentiate statement eg. ali is fatter than joanne, farid is thin, joanne is fatter than farid. Who is fattest. It will rotate in terms of oldest,fatest and thinnest, things like that.

Know how to see patterns and shape. like the letter P being rotated clockwise and anti-clockwise.

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-.- u told everything LOL except presentation AHAHAHA
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QUOTE(Professor Kenny @ Nov 27 2008, 01:43 PM)
thank you for your timely reply salience smile.gif .

I am just wondering if 2HK is replying to me?

I m a fresh gra and seems like the market is absolutely tough for me to get ideal job like mgmt trainee (MT) in MNC..sad
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I heard that CIMB Management is a strong professional company which help company in re-structuring finance or account services. Founder is 'Nazir' which is brother of 'Future Prime Minister' Now we have CIMB Bank. not bad for future advancement. <Personal Sharing>
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QUOTE(LeA @ Nov 28 2008, 09:59 AM)
I heard that CIMB Management is a strong professional company which help company in re-structuring finance or account services. Founder is 'Nazir' which is brother of 'Future Prime Minister' Now we have CIMB Bank. not bad for future advancement. <Personal Sharing>
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LMAO..haha..hope so
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hey, can i ask... any recruitment or vacancy for management trainee at banking line? helping fren.. hehe
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QUOTE(simple'z @ Nov 28 2008, 01:30 PM)
hey, can i ask... any recruitment or vacancy for management trainee at banking line? helping fren.. hehe
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duh, this thread is about CIMB management trainee..

i dont think there are bank which are hiring MT right now anyway..
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simplez.. u don't need to ask us. you can ask the bank straight. just give HR a call and ask.

and your friend should know better to ask him/herself rather than to ask you to ask. shows your friend's initiative to choose to work in a bank.

ur fren want to get a job have to go out and grab it. ask your friend to take initiative and not be lazy.

even so, ur fren still can submit resume for future considerations.


but citibank froze on headcount.
hsbc also

std chartered for banking apprentice but not international banking program
cimb still got
pbb still got

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hv u got te job , ts ?
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QUOTE(nabelon @ Nov 28 2008, 02:19 AM)
For the 1st stage interview, try to memorize all the services offered under islamic, investment and commercial banking by CIMB. Focus more on services in the division you want to be in.

One piece of advice to you guys, know your alphabet. Know your numbers at least from 0-50. Memorize the distance between each number or between alphabet.

know how to differentiate statement eg. ali is fatter than joanne, farid is thin, joanne is fatter than farid. Who is fattest. It will rotate in terms of oldest,fatest and thinnest, things like that.

Know how to see patterns and shape. like the letter P being rotated clockwise and anti-clockwise.
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Is this stage of interview like exam style or verbally by the interviewer?
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hv u got te job , ts ?
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nope. their 4 level of assessment/processing might take weeks. they did call up me for the aptitude test.

in the meantime, i went for other interviews and finally i accepted an offer from a mnc (belgium) company as biomedical engineer.

but anyway, attending their interview is a good experience. coz CIMB was my 1st formal interview and i was scared shitless. after that, i felt much more comfortable attending other interviews. biggrin.gif


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Is this stage of interview like exam style or verbally by the interviewer?
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1st stage, interview + plus 2 essay
2nd stage, written (english + IQ + math)
3rd stage, presentation
4th stage, final interview

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biomedical engineer for an MNC? sounds more terror than a normal banker! congratz!
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biomedical engineer for an MNC? sounds more terror than a normal banker! congratz!
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yeap. thx. i think i feel more secure being in my own comfort zone. and in a way i can dream of making a difference to d world kinda of thing.

science field alwiz makes they ppl 'sounds' great. but honestly the starting pay is peanut compare to CIMB investment, no matter long term or short term. that's a fact. The elderly had been telling me this over and over again and i juz happened not to listen. They said i should take finance degree or ACCA instead of science. now i know why.
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sorry wrong question ask.
good luck in ur new company

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How long does it normally takes to reply us?I've sent my resume 2 weeks ago.
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How long does it normally takes to reply us?I've sent my resume 2 weeks ago.
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they called me up after i emailed my resume for few days ( 3-4?)
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I am just wondering.. For CIMB, is the Management Trainee Programme intake all year round ??

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Just heard from a friend that CIMB complete bankers program just had a pay revision upwards. Can anyone confirm that?


Added on January 30, 2009, 12:11 pmJust heard from a friend that CIMB complete bankers program just had a pay revision upwards. Can anyone confirm that?

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i have filled the application online but don't even receive the automated response...hmm
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Hello Fizzy, I submitted mine yesterday but no automated response as well. Did u get yours after a few days of submitting? I am still waiting for mine!
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may i know the management trainee position will be based at KL or damansara???
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Hello Fizzy, I submitted mine yesterday but no automated response as well. Did u get yours after a few days of submitting? I am still waiting for mine!
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there's not automated response. they just called me up and let me know the address/time. not even an email.
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Hello there, im just a newbie and glad to join all of you here.. I have questions about CIMB management trainee. Is there anybody who had been into the final stage? or already been employed through this kind of program? i need to know how long the duration or time will take to know the final result as what i know from one stage to another stage would take 1-2 weeks for them to reply to the applicant. I also want to know how its going to be for the final interview? is it just the same as the first stage of interview where they will ask u about the product, service, asset management etc?
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After u submit your application, they won't neccessary notified you immediately. I submitted mine and they called me after 1 month around October.
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After u submit your application, they won't neccessary notified you immediately. I submitted mine and they called me after 1 month around October.
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Yeah, it depends. some people just lucky to get the call after 3-4 days of submission. Anyway tohff7, how was the interview?
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Got to the 2nd stage and the IQ test was pretty hard...

if you are looking for money, dont bother to go, as I was told by the HR that this job only pays you 2,200 as a starting pay and you are bound to work for them for 1.5 years.

Within this period, if you happen to find yourself unfit/dislike/failed the test given by them for several times and quit the job (either resign or kena sacked) then you have to pay the all the salary that they have paid for you before.

But i think ppl who are able to get into this programme, should be a smart guy.

Anyway, no harm in trying to apply.
My experience there was:
1st stage: sap sap sui la...call you for first interview already, most probably can go to 2nd stage.
2nd stage: got an IQ test and i found it quite hard.
3rd stage: Presentation (NO IDEA)
4th stage: interview by some big shot HR ppl (NO IDEA)

good luck guys !
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Got to the 2nd stage and the IQ test was pretty hard...

if you are looking for money, dont bother to go, as I was told by the HR that this job only pays you 2,200 as a starting pay and you are bound to work for them for 1.5 years.

Within this period, if you happen to find yourself unfit/dislike/failed the test given by them for several times and quit the job (either resign or kena sacked) then you have to pay the all the salary that they have paid for you before.

But i think ppl who are able to get into this programme, should be a smart guy.

Anyway, no harm in trying to apply.
My experience there was:
1st stage: sap sap sui la...call you for first interview already, most probably can go to 2nd stage.
2nd stage: got an IQ test and i found it quite hard.
3rd stage: Presentation (NO IDEA)
4th stage: interview by some big shot HR ppl (NO IDEA)

good luck guys !
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huh 2.2K? as i know, i was 3000 basic..... hmmmm 2.2 is the latest revised pay?
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maybe i heard it wrong, the HR who told me this was so soft-spoken.

But i think i still can differentiate between "two" and "three".
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Got to the 2nd stage and the IQ test was pretty hard...

if you are looking for money, dont bother to go, as I was told by the HR that this job only pays you 2,200 as a starting pay and you are bound to work for them for 1.5 years.

Within this period, if you happen to find yourself unfit/dislike/failed the test given by them for several times and quit the job (either resign or kena sacked) then you have to pay the all the salary that they have paid for you before.

But i think ppl who are able to get into this programme, should be a smart guy.

Anyway, no harm in trying to apply.
My experience there was:
1st stage: sap sap sui la...call you for first interview already, most probably can go to 2nd stage.
2nd stage: got an IQ test and i found it quite hard.
3rd stage: Presentation (NO IDEA)
4th stage: interview by some big shot HR ppl (NO IDEA)

good luck guys !


Hey,,,since u just attended the cimb interview recently... May I know what questions did they ask? Is it still the same like previously has been discussed? like name of director, how many division, what is asset management...? mind to share?? thxx..

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can i ask if i my course is international business and are trying finding place practical for 6 mth . u think i can join the CIMB management program? smile.gif
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Yeah, it depends. some people just lucky to get the call after 3-4 days of submission. Anyway tohff7, how was the interview?
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i went interview just now..

erm...HR lady told me starting salary will be rm3000....
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anyone went for presentation (3rd stage) already?

Please kindly PM me , thanks
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anyone went for presentation (3rd stage) already?

Please kindly PM me , thanks
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just went for 3rd stage last week...was quite easy...depending on the panel as well...i only got two people...1 from hr and another from corporate banking...they will certainly ask questions...my advice is to really know your presentation...and also what the different divisions in cimb does...

4th stage is with the director...it is with the head of group corporate resouces...

and as for pay wise...i heard that it will be increased from my friend who is a trainee now...basic will be 3.5k and then there may be a slight increment based on your qualification...degree or degree with honours or masters...
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azfar, did you receive any confirmation email when you applied? because i didn't receive any! I applied 2 weeks ago!
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may i know for the presentation topic will be given before your presentation day??? or on the spot?? ya, for management trainee, u will be based at damansara or KL?

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Ya,i am also still considering either to take this challenge for CIMB Management Trainee...
But may i know how long of the whole interview taking time??(since it have 4 stages interview to go..)
I am urgently seeking for a new job & had 2 years working experiences in banking Line,but just related to Credit Card.If Possible they may call me up for interview?Since they ll mostly hire fresh graduate for the Management Trainee... :-)

Hope u guys's reply.Thanks a lot!
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azfar, did you receive any confirmation email when you applied? because i didn't receive any! I applied 2 weeks ago!
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there was no confirmation email...the hr people called me...normally it doesn't take long for them to get back to you after you applied...or maybe you could give hr a call and ask about their intake...

QUOTE(trust86 @ Feb 20 2009, 12:28 PM)
may i know for the presentation topic will be given before your presentation day??? or on the spot?? ya, for management trainee, u will be based at damansara or KL?
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as for me, my presentation topic was given 2 days before...the topic will be emailed...some of my friends got their topic a day before the presentation...it really depends on them...the classes which will be on for 2 months will be at damansara...then the rotation is mostly at damansara...occasionally around kl...

QUOTE(sunshine_gal @ Feb 20 2009, 03:05 PM)
Ya,i am also still considering either to take this challenge for CIMB Management Trainee...
But may i know how long of the whole interview taking time??(since it have 4 stages interview to go..)
I am urgently seeking for a new job & had 2 years working experiences in banking Line,but just related to Credit Card.If Possible they may call me up for interview?Since they ll mostly hire fresh graduate for the Management Trainee... :-)

Hope u guys's reply.Thanks a lot!
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CIMB Management Trainee is quite a good program for you guys there wanting to go into banking...as opposed to certain banks which just put you in a department...another good program would be Management Associates which is with RHB bank...since i first applied until now...taken me so far about 3 weeks...hope this helps...
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QUOTE(azfar @ Feb 20 2009, 11:14 AM)
there was no confirmation email...the hr people called me...normally it doesn't take long for them to get back to you after you applied...or maybe you could give hr a call and ask about their intake...
as for me, my presentation topic was given 2 days before...the topic will be emailed...some of my friends got their topic a day before the presentation...it really depends on them...the classes which will be on for 2 months will be at damansara...then the rotation is mostly at damansara...occasionally around kl...
CIMB Management Trainee is quite a good program for you guys there wanting to go into banking...as opposed to certain banks which just put you in a department...another good program would be Management Associates which is with RHB bank...since i first applied until now...taken me so far about 3 weeks...hope this helps...
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So,u already attended until the stage 3 rite now???
Hows things going on??
hmm..R u really urge to join CIMB Group as Management Trainee??Do u had working experiences as before??
All the best & Good Luck for you yaa... :-)
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QUOTE(sunshine_gal @ Feb 20 2009, 04:36 PM)
So,u already attended until the stage 3 rite now???
Hows things going on??
hmm..R u really urge to join CIMB Group as Management Trainee??Do u had working experiences as before??
All the best & Good Luck for you yaa... :-)
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yeah passed stage 3 of the interview...things are going ok but really nervous for the last interview...but people say the director is a nice person...well...will know this sunday...

nope no working experience...fresh grad here...and thanks !!!
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i will like to ask is CIMB accept prctical student ? smile.gif

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i will like to ask is CIMB accept prctical student ? smile.gif
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I do thInk THey do accept Pratical Student la..
Try to check out this website..Mayb can help you..:-)

CIMB have the Internship Program as well Beside the Management Trainee...

http://www.cimb.com/index.php?ch=group_ch_...&tpt=cimb_group


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thx to u is a very big help form u^^


Added on February 20, 2009, 2:58 pm i wan to ask if im a diploma in international business can apply cause the intership jus for undergraduate

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QUOTE(shinningteen @ Feb 20 2009, 02:48 PM)
thx to u is a very big help form u^^


Added on February 20, 2009, 2:58 pm i wan to ask if  im a diploma in international business can apply cause the intership jus for undergraduate
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I thInk mayb u can try to apply 1st or can try gather some information about the Internship Program.
If u are shortlisted,they may call u for interview.. :-)


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i tought practical student no need interview.... but anyway thx for ur info smile.gif
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hi i was invited to attend the first stage of the interview on the coming Wednesday. May I know what is the dress code? Is a tie and a coat required?
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hi i was invited to attend the first stage of the interview on the coming Wednesday. May I know what is the dress code? Is a tie and a coat required?
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Hi, may I know when did you apply? Please let me know! Thanks!
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hi Andy_L I applied on 3rd Feb, and it took approximately a month to get them to call me. when did you apply?
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QUOTE(bridge06 @ Mar 1 2009, 12:52 PM)
hi i was invited to attend the first stage of the interview on the coming Wednesday. May I know what is the dress code? Is a tie and a coat required?
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male should just wear tie....female should wear an overcoat

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male should just wear tie....female should wear an overcoat
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i'm male.. thanks for the info Amanda85

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i expected to finish my degree in june, can i apply now also?
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hi Andy_L I applied on 3rd Feb, and it took approximately a month to get them to call me. when did you apply?
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I was invited to attend the 1st round interview this wednesday. They called me 2 days before the interview. Very nervous now.

For the 1st round of interview, does it includes the essay writing or only interview? Thz guys

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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 10 2009, 02:40 PM)
same case here,they called me yesterday,the interview is tomorrow.i'm actively memorizing all the divisions whatsoever... shocking.gif


Added on March 10, 2009, 2:42 pmhmm anyway,got to bring all certs rite? i'm so blur since this is my 1st interview
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u need to know the function of the division also..

n those big boss name...
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management trainee? hmm.. I applied for few management trainee post from the newspaper ad before, during those interview i found the title "management trainee" lead to direct sales job. Mostly insurance, saving plan, and credit card. Sales is not my field, by the way. So what is the job scope of management trainee in CIMB?
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how do you guys apply for MT from CIMB?
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eh fizzy ,

what do they mean by underperform ?


To All : New post on my blog , have a look should be of use .

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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 11 2009, 07:36 PM)
hey everyone,just got back from the interview.all i can say is i'm pretty sure i flunked it...there are few questions i didn't manage to answer:

-how islamic banking make profits? being a muslim myself, i have no idea
-what is the cause of us economic recession? she told me that my general knowledge is poor (as i give a damn about all stuffs)
-name two banks in us that heve been closed down recently? crap

2 years programme sounds good,bonded sounds ok but have to pay back all salaries if under perform sound nuts! hopefully i fail...then no mood to write essay...however it was a good experience to be interviewed by strict ppl

p/s: got conned by taxi driver too...20 bucks melayang!
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Pay back the salary? totally uncool....
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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 12 2009, 10:42 PM)
of course they got expectation ma,if unmet then bye2...she mentioned that those who resigned normally can't stand long working hours,for instance in corporate finance-sometimes have to go back at 4 am!
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sure but how to measure expectations ? like in CF you will be part of a team handling deals etc . How can the head of CF tell with accuracy who has contributed and by how much.

I mean it is not like in Fund management where if you and a couple of others manage a fund . then how much it goes up or down by is fairly straight forward.

Otherwise it is very subjective , one guy can say you didn't do good and the other can you were brilliant .


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*cough*, you guys missed out something.

Other than paying back the salary, you will have to pay back the classroom training fees for the first 2 months. (around 10k+)

Its quite expensive because they hire trainers from Australia to teach you how to do a proper presentation, and also a well known image consultant to groom yourself. (http://www.chap-one.com/About%20Us.html)

Currently they are taking in Batch 11, starting next month.
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Fizzy,

If I want to apply for MT CIMB too...do I need to mention the MT in which areas? ( such as MT in IT...human resource...sales & marketing)



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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 16 2009, 07:20 PM)
just mt...but during the interview she asked which area i was interested...gd luck in risking urself brows.gif
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Thanks a lot...I dont mind risking as the words said " no pain, no gain"...hehe

Thanks again biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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i heard from my fren the starting pay is 2.3k
i was suprised as i read earlier in this thread it was 3k


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QUOTE(deitylord @ Mar 17 2009, 02:38 AM)
i heard from my fren the starting pay is 2.3k
i was suprised as i read earlier in this thread it was 3k
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starting is rm3k
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starting is rm3k
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my fren already got the offer.
got assigned to CF

hmm not sure whats happening hmm.gif
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hi guys,

may i know how u guys apply to CIMB ? i applied by filling up the form provided on their website, that's it ?? thanks
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its more than 3k already.
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its more than 3k already.
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the starting you mean ?
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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 18 2009, 03:45 AM)
but the working hour is...hmm
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Fizzy,

U get the job liao ??
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i just went to the interview, i wonder the personality thingy they asked us to do will affect the decision whether to hire you..how come banks want robots in their selection of ppl, standard chartered too...aih
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QUOTE(sklyte @ Mar 19 2009, 10:54 AM)
i just went to the interview, i wonder the personality thingy they asked us to do will affect the decision whether to hire you..how come banks want robots in their selection of ppl, standard chartered too...aih
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Nah, it wont. There's no right or wrong for personality, just wanna determine what type of ppl you are.

Generally i divided Investment Bank to 2 different types, the Corporate Finance type and Treasury type.

CF is more to compliance, precision, detailed, and etc. As for Treasury is more to fast thinking, react to news, logical thinking and decision making.
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how long did u guys wait for them to response after applying ??
applied thru the form on cimb website? and wait only ?
coz i applied for quite a few weeks already, but never hear from them....
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QUOTE(youthchean @ Mar 20 2009, 10:09 AM)
Nah, it wont. There's no right or wrong for personality, just wanna determine what type of ppl you are.

Generally i divided Investment Bank to 2 different types, the Corporate Finance type and Treasury type.

CF is more to compliance, precision, detailed, and etc. As for Treasury is  more to fast thinking, react to news, logical thinking and decision making.
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qhw, u can try to apply again...i applied twice d..it took them 3 days to inform me
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qhw, u can try to apply again...i applied twice d..it took them 3 days to inform me
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coz i was wondering whether i should fill in the form online again....
since u have done that, i will just re-apply....thanks again....
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just send by ur email..it is faster i think..
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just send by ur email..it is faster i think..
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yeah sklyte...it's kinda hard for fresh graduates to hunt for jobs at this time...more freshies will be coming out soon too...*sweat...
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can i know normally it takes how long to know that you are selected for the next interview, i went to the interview last wednesday and until now, still no news yet..
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after the 1st interview, the interviewer straight away gave me a piece of paper containing the information about deloitte location for iq test

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hmm, means i dun have any chance of getting a test dy..sad...i answer everything she asked me about cimb, i duno what i am lack of...sad...uglywrik, so which stage u made to?

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fizzy u failed too?haha..mentally tiring looking for a job
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Sure lah .

how you all apply and to who and how you respond to non replies is very important.

do it wrong and the personal toll can be great .

High morale = confidence = better performance IN SUCCESS AND FAILURE [ 2nd one is more important] = bigger chance of winning .

Lack of knowledge / guidance = low confidence = bad performance = low chance of winning = repeat , repeat , repeat .

Psychology is most vital in success in all walks of life .

75% of success is in personal psychology .
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Nothing I said is " negative " so Please chose your words with care .

The forum is public , if you don't want views from the public then post them in private.

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lol...txi is trying to convince ppl to pay him for "easy access" into investment banking , u can read his blog for more info...anyone so far pay him yet?haha..anyway i have failed cimb because lack of confidence...sux
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Just want to share my info...

I had my interview for The CIMB Complete Banker Programme yesterday..
and the person who was interviewing me was the Director of Group Corporate Resources, Puan Hamidah herself..
I did read about the stages here before attending the interview, that we need to pass the previous stage before we can proceed to another stage of the recruitment process. but maybe it is just random, who will be interviewing you.. so just be prepared.

and this is my experience that I can share with you guys

while you wait for your turn, you need to fill up your application form and 2 essays needed to be done

1st part essay : Choose between 2 subjects - Not more than 150 words
1. Describe yourself
or
2. What movie/books have you read or watched recently?. Applied the movie/books that you read to your life now.

2nd part essay : Choose between 2 subjects- Not more than 150 words
2. What have you learn from your previous high school/ university experience?
or
2. What do you want your future boss to have in himself/herself?

and, if your not from any finance background. her killer question is, why do you choose to enter banking rather than staying with your current degree career?. the other is just normal questions from her, she just want to see how you communicate and how confidence are you.

and I did take the opportunity to ask her some question myself
-the newest intake for this programme is September (9) this year
-she is looking for someone who is confidence/know how to communicate/good with numbers/suitable to work in banking environment, regardless of the diploma/degree that you have.
-after the interview you will have your results in a week

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My My , how bitter and angry some people become after they have been rejected .

I gave a free but honest consultation however some did not like what I said : that big improvements were needed before they stand a chance of getting in , what a sad case.

Too many freshers are too ' lansi ' , haven't even set 1 toe inside and some think the banks OWE them a place inside .

They OWE you nothing [ unless you are the PM's son ] .Anyone has that misconception then get it through the thick skull . For everyone with the same qualification they got 20+ with better suited personalities , dime a dozen , nothing special.

This exactly the kind of personality they are WEEDING out

You got to be joking , no actually this is a joke .

Tell you guys for free , with this kind of personality and attitude - good luck to you cause you'll need it . Most prolly end up in Bank Buruh's Rompin dept.

Lack of knowledge + bad attitude = low confidence = bad performance = low chance of winning = repeat , repeat , repeat .

And yes people have signed up and I am sure they will do well but certain people I would reject just like what CIMB did - I agree with them .
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CIMB offers staff 6-month unpaid leave

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KUALA LUMPUR, March 30 – Malaysian financial services group CIMB has asked its 36,000 employees to consider taking up to six months of unpaid leave as it aims to cut costs in the global economic slowdown, a top official said on Monday.

CIMB is the first major Malaysian company to ask staff to go on unpaid leave.

CIMB Group Chief Executive Nazir Razak said the offer was made last week to its staff in the country’s second-largest lender, CIMB Bank as well as its units BankThai in Thailand and PT Bank CIMB Niaga in Indonesia.

“In the slower economic environment, we are looking at ways to temporarily reduce our costs. The reception from our staff has been very, very good,” Nazir told reporters at a company event.

He said workers who take up the group’s offer will start their leave from April 1, but this will not affect the bank’s operations.

Nazir said there was no set target on the number of employees accepting the offer and denied the company was cutting staff.

“How can (this) possibly be called a lay-off? We are not instructing anyone to do anything. We are just giving them an option to apply if they wish to take an extended break. Don’t interpret it any other way,” he said. – Reuters


sos

I wonder if this is affect new intake or not

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CIMB offers staff 6-month unpaid leave
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I wonder if this is affect new intake or not
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Nope! I've been into one of the promotion program with CIMB. Regardless of the financial outstanding of the Group, the Complete Bankers program will continue. This is Dato' Nazir own words....

...but I'm not one of them. blush.gif
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i heard that cimb offers good bonuses..
i wish i could join them smile.gif
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hi guys.. just wondering is anyone has any idea if they'll be paying you during the first two months of training? thanks in advance...
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Hi there,

I'll be heading for the interview on Thursday. Any tips??
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QUOTE(paeng86 @ Mar 29 2009, 10:14 PM)
Just want to share my info...

I had my interview for The CIMB Complete Banker Programme yesterday..
and the person who was interviewing me was the Director of Group Corporate Resources, Puan Hamidah herself..
I did read about the stages here before attending the interview, that we need to pass the previous stage before we can proceed to another stage of the recruitment process. but maybe it is just random, who will be interviewing you.. so just be prepared.

and this is my experience that I can share with you guys

while you wait for your turn, you need to fill up your application form and 2 essays needed to be done

1st part essay : Choose between 2 subjects - Not more than 150 words
1. Describe yourself
or
2. What movie/books have you read or watched recently?. Applied the movie/books that you read to your life now.

2nd part essay : Choose between 2 subjects- Not more than 150 words
2. What have you learn from your previous high school/ university experience?
or
2. What do you want your future boss to have in himself/herself?

and, if your not from any finance background. her killer question is, why do you choose to enter banking rather than staying with your current degree career?. the other is just normal questions from her, she just want to see how you communicate and how confidence are you.

and I did take the opportunity to ask her some question myself
-the newest intake for this programme is September (9) this year
-she is looking for someone who is confidence/know how to communicate/good with numbers/suitable to work in banking environment, regardless of the diploma/degree that you have.
-after the interview you will have your results in a week
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hi,

like what paeng86 has said, the first round interview is pretty much like that....my interview was conducted by 2 HR personnel the other day....
if u pass the 1st round, there will be a IQ assessment test conducted by an independent consulting firm.
if u pass the 2rd round, there will be a presentation that u hv to prepare about 2days prior to the interview day. the 3rd round will be conducted by some department heads, i guess....
that's what i hv gone thru so far....so still waiting for them...
oh yeah, there are quite efficient when it comes to informing u about the results, basically u will know within a week.
it seems to me that they are very very selective in recruiting fresh grads for the banker program....so yeah, just give it a try...

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QUOTE(fizzy @ Apr 22 2009, 12:53 AM)
what's the point of having this thread then? vmad.gif  if u r so lazy to google,then just read this thread from the first page la rclxub.gif
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Some people are just that darn lazy. whistling.gif

I am a candidate for this programme as well and will be attending my first round of interview later on today.
I find that the information posted in the thread to be useful in preparing myself for the first ever interview session of my life. laugh.gif

Wish me luck. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Anyone already inside this program?... need more info about it since gonna make a career choice for myself
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Anyone already inside this program?... need more info about it since gonna make a career choice for myself
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hi paeng86,
u hv been recruited? just heard from the briefing that it's gonna be tough with a small group of fresh grads working hard.....
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yeah, as soon as I finish my studies.. but before accepting anything, its better to talk to anyone who is already in the programme, because I have like tons of question to ask, but not to the HR of CIMB.. need to know the 'bad side' of the program wink.gif

well, if your working and your a fresh grad.. you need to work hard.. thats an obligation regardless where you work..
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QUOTE(fizzy @ Apr 22 2009, 12:53 AM)
what's the point of having this thread then? vmad.gif  if u r so lazy to google,then just read this thread from the first page la rclxub.gif
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Well I actually meant other tips, since it was so quiet already. Sorry if I actually made you misunderstand. I didnt know that someone who went for the interview so long ago but still havent got a reply will still read this thread. I think it is pretty clear that you did not get into the programme. So mayb you should try applying for other job and give up looking at this thread. But then again, judging from the fact that you have poor general knowledge (according to the HR of CIMB), I am not surprised to get a nasty reply from a possible jealous freak like you.

QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 11 2009, 07:36 PM)
hey everyone,just got back from the interview.all i can say is i'm pretty sure i flunked it...there are few questions i didn't manage to answer:

-how islamic banking make profits? being a muslim myself, i have no idea
-what is the cause of us economic recession? she told me that my general knowledge is poor(as i give a damn about all stuffs)
-name two banks in us that heve been closed down recently? crap

2 years programme sounds good,bonded sounds ok but have to pay back all salaries if under perform sound nuts! hopefully i fail...then no mood to write essay...however it was a good experience to be interviewed by strict ppl

p/s: got conned by taxi driver too...20 bucks melayang!
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Anyway being a lazy person yourself, please do not call other people lazy. Your just a pot calling the kettle black. The few replies that you posted back then shows just how lazy you are.

QUOTE(fizzy @ Jan 24 2009, 03:07 AM)
i guess during economic downturn just have to work in bank-gosh i hate it(they work until 9-10 pm!)
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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 17 2009, 10:45 PM)
but the working hour is...hmm
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QUOTE(fizzy @ Feb 15 2009, 04:52 AM)
if 2.2 k only,then not interested la...work in bank requires long hours sumore
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Whats wrong with working until 9-10pm?? Or mayb you are too lazy to work until 9-10pm? Mayb you just want to work until 2-3pm?? Who is the lazy person now? Fizzy?


QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 11 2009, 07:36 PM)
hey everyone,just got back from the interview.all i can say is i'm pretty sure i flunked it...there are few questions i didn't manage to answer:

-how islamic banking make profits? being a muslim myself, i have no idea
-what is the cause of us economic recession? she told me that my general knowledge is poor(as i give a damn about all stuffs)
-name two banks in us that heve been closed down recently? crap

2 years programme sounds good,bonded sounds ok but have to pay back all salaries if under perform sound nuts! hopefully i fail...then no mood to write essay...however it was a good experience to be interviewed by strict ppl

p/s: got conned by taxi driver too...20 bucks melayang!
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I think the HR lady was actually being nice to you, I mean for someone who wants to work in a bank that does not even know how islamic banking make profits or the two US banks that recently closed down. Your general knowledge should be rated non-existent instead of poor. Oh btw, we are in a really bad economic recession now, just in case you dont know. And btw, banks are the first industry that stops hiring in a economic recession. So, please please please, think before you talk and stop churning out gibberish like this.

QUOTE(fizzy @ Jan 24 2009, 03:07 AM)
i guess during economic downturn just have to work in bank-gosh i hate it(they work until 9-10 pm!)
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But then again, I guess it is useless telling you this stuff because I reckon that you are probably so ignorant, you dont even know what an economic recession is.


QUOTE(fizzy @ Apr 1 2009, 12:00 AM)
want to banker only...i wonder why so hard
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You actually do no need to wonder why its so hard for you, its very simple. But since your general knowledge is so poor (again not according to me but the HR of CIMB), I will be a nice samaritan and remind you; People that work in banks have at least a decent amount of common sense, general knowledge and are actually HARDWORKING.

It is hard for you because you are a lazy and ignorant person who just sits down wondering why you didnt get a job but dont bother to actually read about the industry that you plan to get into. Dude, if you are looking for short working hours, stop applying for banks. Just work for the government, from what I know, they are still looking for people.


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QUOTE(qhw @ Apr 21 2009, 10:44 PM)
hi,

like what paeng86 has said, the first round interview is pretty much like that....my interview was conducted by 2 HR personnel the other day....
if u pass the 1st round, there will be a IQ assessment test conducted by an independent consulting firm.
if u pass the 2rd round, there will be a presentation that u hv to prepare about 2days prior to the interview day. the 3rd round will be conducted by some department heads, i guess....
that's what i hv gone thru so far....so still waiting for them...
oh yeah, there are quite efficient when it comes to informing u about the results, basically u will know within a week.
it seems to me that they are very very selective in recruiting fresh grads for the banker program....so yeah, just give it a try...
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Thanks alot for the info!!

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Well can't add anymore to that.

Suffice to say at least someone gets the message : BE prepared and do your research .

These interviews should not be taken lightly , you can see that the interviewers are VERY serious and will give no leeway to those who are badly prepared or unsure of what the industry is about.

To me it looks as if they have many more applicants for this years Grad scheme so the competition is getting hotter .
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I did not apply to CIMB MT and yet I read the whole thing. As for fizzy, oh well..
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At least you are making a real effort. By the way I have written more on this and needless to say you all know where to find it.

But those who do not like frank views please stay away , repeat not for those that get easily offended by counter opinion , especially those 2 people [ you know who you are without naming names ] who constantly complain about being offended at the slightest thing that disagrees with them .

So you have been told thus don't go there and then whine cause you don't like what you read - you have been forewarned DO NOT GO THERE .

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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 11 2009, 07:36 PM)
hey everyone,just got back from the interview.all i can say is i'm pretty sure i flunked it...there are few questions i didn't manage to answer:

-how islamic banking make profits? being a muslim myself, i have no idea
-what is the cause of us economic recession? she told me that my general knowledge is poor (as i give a damn about all stuffs)
-name two banks in us that heve been closed down recently? crap
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The bolded questions are the "questions" for you to shine and demonstrates your strength in financial market. I bet they dont even accept half-baked answers. fizzy, if you have no passion/interest in banking or economic in general, why do you want to waste your time?
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Some people are just plain stupid and arrogant.
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QUOTE(fizzy @ Mar 11 2009, 07:36 PM)
hey everyone,just got back from the interview.all i can say is i'm pretty sure i flunked it...there are few questions i didn't manage to answer:

-how islamic banking make profits? being a muslim myself, i have no idea
-what is the cause of us economic recession? she told me that my general knowledge is poor (as i give a damn about all stuffs)

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Hey mr ignorant and mr no general knowledge.........

QUOTE(fizzy @ Apr 25 2009, 02:36 AM)
maybe because the economy is bad mr smarty mad.gif
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.........please WAKE UP!!!!. Most banks are not hiring this economic downturn (economic downturn means "the economy is bad", just before you think both are different things). How many times do people have to drill it into your head for you to get it? for your info, Lehman brothers is already bankrupt, RBS posted the biggest business loss in British history, Citigroup shares are down 93% from its 2006 peak. Again just before you miss the point, Lehman Brothers, RBS and Citigroup are BANKS!!

When the economy is bad, DONT GO TO BANKS MR IGNORANT AND MR NO GENERAL KNOWLEDGE. Work for a health company or F&Bs like Nestle or Coca cola. But judging from you general knowledge, I doubt that any of the MNCs would hire you. So, just work for the government. I believe they are still hiring.



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LOL @ the two replies above - very mature. Getting outta hand guys, back to the topic please smile.gif

Been lurking about this thread for a while, it's very helpful. I've just submitted my resume to CIMB. Fingers crossed that they'll get back to me soon.
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Are they actually still hiring?
Headcounts are being frozen.
Some needs to take a pay cut.
Back-end operation sides got a lot being pushed to be on 6 months unpaid leaves or work 3 days a week only.

Btw, most banks are on frozen headcounts.
Some even needs regional approval for hiring a replacements (for oversea banks). The least affected as far as I know is Public and RHB for locals, and SCB for internationals.

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I think freeze on most department, except IT
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I think freeze on most department, except IT
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Ermm. The HR at CIMB told me that they are planning to take in around 15 this year for this programme though and they are actually quite actively interviewing people.
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Ermm. The HR at CIMB told me that they are planning to take in around 15 this year for this programme though and they are actually quite actively interviewing people.
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Any tips on the IQ test?

Does anybody know how the scoring works? And what kinda questions they would ask? HR told me that it is 300 questions in 1 hour.
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don't think they are freezing headcount at all, not that i know of anyway.
IT is also hiring, i just met 2 new hires for IT earlier in the week. MT program is taking in around 15 ppl 4 times a year(the annual report said they hire 60 people yearly), first 2 batches are already in, 3rd batch will start in july. not sure whether they will have a 4th this year.

IQ test is a non-discriminatory test, 300q but all easy peasy stuff, just need to be alert, fast, n accurate. and yes they are fast, and if you're from out of town they will arrange for all the 3 stages after the initial one to be as close together as possible for you.

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is there any specific requirement to join the MT prog? like must DEFINITELY have 3.0 cgpa? and is it really true we have to deduct from our future pay (if we do get selected) for the prog?
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i m going this weds ............


Added on May 26, 2009, 4:08 pmi going to the interview tomorrow !!!!
i live in near LTR stesen maluri
someone please help me out
tomorrow i oging for the interview
can anyone tell how do i get there by public transport

anyone please help !
btw i frm sabah

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Doesn't necessarily have to have a 3.0, but the grades are used to screen potential candidates, so as long as you're able to get a first interview, your results shouldn't matter too much thereafter. I was told that plenty of gpa 4.0 people have been rejected in after the first interview because they can't even speak proper english or carry themselves well, so don't worry too much about your results and just be yourself smile.gif
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cimb hires all year round so no worries. they are active with a moderate turn over as well.

alot of MTs do not end up doing what they want even after graduation and just drop out. when you drop out of a MT program, u generally don't specialize in any dept. unless u really shine in your rotation, giving your boss more reason to push for you to be in that dept.

on hiring processes, it is DEFINITELY alright to go through the interviews with not much BANKING specific knowledge because even so, what do the interviewers know? they are just HR. but your general knowledge must be good and know how banks function.

at the end of the day, even if u qualify for all, if at the last round, director tak suka, u don't get it. the last one is more on a background talk, and another round of a general interview.
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hey, anyone going for the third interview (presentation round) next week?
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what is the topic for presentation ?
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QUOTE(Salience @ May 27 2009, 09:23 AM)
cimb hires all year round so no worries. they are active with a moderate turn over as well.

alot of MTs do not end up doing what they want even after graduation and just drop out. when you drop out of a MT program, u generally don't specialize in any dept. unless u really shine in your rotation, giving your boss more reason to push for you to be in that dept.

on hiring processes, it is DEFINITELY alright to go through the interviews with not much BANKING specific knowledge because even so, what do the interviewers know? they are just HR. but your general knowledge must be good and know how banks function.

at the end of the day, even if u qualify for all, if at the last round, director tak suka, u don't get it. the last one is more on a background talk, and another round of a general interview.
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QUOTE(koht04 @ May 27 2009, 05:38 PM)
what is the topic for presentation ?
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Usually the topic would be given 1 or 2 days beforehand, therefore NO IDEA for now. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(ckwei @ May 27 2009, 07:02 AM)
Doesn't necessarily have to have a 3.0, but the grades are used to screen potential candidates, so as long as you're able to get a first interview, your results shouldn't matter too much thereafter. I was told that plenty of gpa 4.0 people have been rejected in after the first interview because they can't even speak proper english or carry themselves well, so don't worry too much about your results and just be yourself smile.gif
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but i've visited their website and it is stated that the ones who should apply are high achievers with a minimum of 3.3 cgpa. mine's only 3.02. no hope i guess? still contemplating if i should write in.
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damn it ... i screwed the interview..............
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QUOTE(fee-oh-na @ May 27 2009, 10:59 PM)
but i've visited their website and it is stated that the ones who should apply are high achievers with a minimum of 3.3 cgpa. mine's only 3.02. no hope i guess? still contemplating if i should write in.
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fee-oh-na, don't worry about the CGPA biggrin.gif my CGPA was also less than 3.3 when i applied, but well here i am waiting for the 3rd stage.

Send only the resume, you've got nothing to lose right? The worse that can happen is that you lose 5 minutes of your life sending one email:)

On another note, although they took one week to tell me that i made it to the second round, but it took them one month to inform me that i passed the second stage. LOL. Now when got finals, they call me asking if i free or not.

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hey all,

was wondering if there are anyone in the management trainee programme? i have just been offered this programme and is in a dilemma now regarding the 10 months rotation.
what are the chances of me getting a department that I want?
and what happens if I get a department that I do not like? is there anyway to change?
how will the trainees be judged on where they will be placed?



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QUOTE(epiphany01 @ Jun 2 2009, 01:55 AM)
hey all,

was wondering if there are anyone in the management trainee programme? i have just been offered this programme and is in a dilemma now regarding the 10 months rotation.
what are the chances of me getting a department that I want?
and what happens if I get a department that I do not like? is there anyway to change?
how will the trainees be judged on where they will be placed?
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I was an CIMB ex-mgmt trainee (back in 2002), but for their life insurance arm (not the bank itself).
Back then the bank was known as BCB, and their life insurance arm was known as Commerce Life.
I would say that these sort of programmes are excellent for fresh grads who intend to be in the financial industry, you get exposure to the entire operations of the company (via rotation) which otherwise will not be available to you if you were straight away hired as a permanent exec. So go for it! laugh.gif

You may or may not get into the department you want, but I am sure you will get into the 'suitable' department according to your qualifications, education background, & personality. A mismatch in these areas will be bad for you in the long run.
If you get into a dept you don't like, you can always ask for a transfer. You can always request, these things are negotiable. (especially if you are good at what you do)

Trainees are often judged by their interpersonal, communication, writing, & presentation skills. Behavioral assesment may also contribute. So, you will need to appear consistent in your efforts to catch the attention of the supervisor.
All the best to you! biggrin.gif
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Hey .... i went to the interview last wednesday
now i got job offer from somewhere else
HOW................
now i in the middle wait for this or take that offer ler

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I wonder the interview is conducted on English or BM?

Will they test your BM?
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interview is conducted in english. don't think they will test your bm so don't worry about it.
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Hi, i would like to ask how much is the pay for management trainee for the complete banker programme?
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I have just received a call from CIMB to attend my first interview for the MT program. However i can't really remember the venue for interview. The only thing i can remember is jalan semantan, damansara heights. But i could not remember the name of the building and which floor it is. Can anybody who have attended the first interview helps?

I tried calling back the number but nobody answers
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level 9, commerce square if i'm not mistaken.
if you come down from pusat bandar damansara, it's the 3rd building along the cimb stretch, right next to institut bank-bank malaysia.
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Been wondering what is the age limitation for CIMB Management Trainee Program, is it under 30?

Have been thinking to switch job after some serious consideration but worry that I couldn't get in what the field that I am very interested in, particularly Equity Investment field.
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QUOTE(ckwei @ Jul 8 2009, 11:35 PM)
level 9, commerce square if i'm not mistaken.
if you come down from pusat bandar damansara, it's the 3rd building along the cimb stretch, right next to institut bank-bank malaysia.
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Thanks so much. I think that is the one.
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QUOTE(cspang86 @ Jul 7 2009, 01:25 PM)
I have just received a call from CIMB to attend my first interview for the MT program. However i can't really remember the venue for interview. The only thing i can remember is jalan semantan, damansara heights. But i could not remember the name of the building and which floor it is. Can anybody who have attended the first interview helps?

I tried calling back the number but nobody answers
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hey when's yr first interview? how was it? mind sharing the questions asked, who's the interviewer, etc.?
my interview is on next monday...
thanks in advance!
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confused : check the website to learn more. but it will be unwise to go for an mgmt trainee position in cimb because you are not guaranteed a place in whichever dept your preference is(for you its equity trading), as the trading positions are in high demand and the respective depts are very selective over the ppl they take in.

vroom : just read up a bit about cimb and it's respective line of businesses. and remember who the few key personnel are.
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QUOTE(ckwei @ Jul 12 2009, 10:42 PM)
confused : check the website to learn more. but it will be unwise to go for an mgmt trainee position in cimb because you are not guaranteed a place in whichever dept your preference is(for you its equity trading), as the trading positions are in high demand and the respective depts are very selective over the ppl they take in.

vroom : just read up a bit about cimb and it's respective line of businesses. and remember who the few key personnel are.
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Seeing that most of the information posted is rather misleading, I hope to be able to clarify matters for those interested in the program. Being someone who is actually in the program, I hope to give a much clearer view.

The program duration is 2 years in which you will be bonded to CIMB for this amount of time. The first 2 months consists of pure classroom training (exams and presentations) followed by 10 months of rotations. After a year, you will be confirmed as a full time staff and you still need to serve another year to make up for the 2 years of the bond. Only after the 2 years can you leave at your will without having to pay CIMB back.

The MT (management trainee) program is an excellent program for someone who is interested in the banking industry. Despite what you hear, you are not going to end up selling credit cards in shopping malls after the program. This program is meant to groom the future leaders of CIMB which is why they are very selective and also expect a lot from you.

There are 4 intakes in a year. Each intake has about 13-15 ppl max. The first 2 months of the training is when they will evaluate you to see how capable you are. You can choose the departments where you want to end up in. It can be equity markets, trading, corporate finance, debt markets, asset management and even retail banking. The choices are numerous. However, you have to prove your worth. If they find you to be not smart enough or not hardworking enough, forget going to any investment banking departments of your choice. Why would someone want to take you into their department if you are a terrible worker? CIMB is very performance based. If you're good, you will excel, if you're bad, off you go.

For fresh grads who are interested in the banking industry, it is a good program. However, be prepared to work hard (long long hours) and have a good attitude. You will definitely be rewarded accordingly =)

If anyone else has questions about the program, just post it and I'll be glad to answer them to the best of my knowledge.
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I had tried to apply for CIMB-GK as a management trainee. Unfortunately, I was not successful as they only need Singaporean and PR only.
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anyone passed through 3rd stage (presentation) / have been told to attend 3rd stage interview?
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it's not even an iq test. it's more of a learning aptitude test, a non-discriminatory way of ascertaining your ability to learn and understand. so nope, the test is not insane, it's not even hard, at all. you just need speed and accuracy, rather than intelligence.
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yep i concur with ckwei...
i'm not good at calculations at all, i believe i left my maths knowledge back at secondary school
so the assessment test was actually a good relief to me, just recognize this or that
i won't say that there's actually a pass or failure for this test, as the administrator informed us that it is actually to assess how we think or something like that

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QUOTE(fizzy @ Jul 16 2009, 06:25 PM)
then how come i failed? i disagree with u on this...
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lol, i still maintain my stand that there's no pass or failure...
i only completed half of one of the assessments ( the reasoning test blush.gif )
taking into account the mistakes that i made, i must have failed that too (that is, if there's a pass/failure for this test)
but i was called for the 3rd round anyway
so my guess is that, either they are widening their pool of candidates or the test is just to assess how our mind works....

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its definitely not an iq test, that's all i have to say. they just call it that, but in actuality it is just a tool to determine your ability to learn and your speed of digesting data. the facilitator has already said it's a non discriminatory test, so people from all walks of life, from kids to adults without degrees, will be able do it.

vroom : goodluck. and please prepare well ahead. make sure it is comprehensive.
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thank you.....it's 2.25am and i'm still trying to make sense of my presentation...
comprehensive? i'll be lucky if i even get to understand what i'm presenting about...
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lol. The IQ test is definitely not 'insane' let alone hard. I dont know if you can 'fail' the test but if your marks are below that of the average person, it pretty much explains something. Even if you do badly in the iq test, they will probably still call you for a presentation to test your other skills but the iq marks do play a part in your overall evaluation.
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anyone been through 4th round? ^^
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Hi all... It seems that this thread is getting quieter huh... I would like to revive it again cz i was asked for the 1st round of interview this cumin Wednesday. I've read thru the whole thread and got some idea how does this work. How many ppl actuali went for the interview from the 1st assessment huh? Anyways no 1 actuali mentioned the details on hw did the 3rd assessment, which is the interview and the final 1,wher u gona meet all the big shots... Hope some1 would share their experiences... Is ther any1 who had already been selected?
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fizzy.

u know what is the test for anot?

it's an aptitude test lah. to see the type of person u are.
its by thomas international right?

if so, it's to give an estimation on the "type" of person u are and see whether uare a fit in the company.

the test can give indications like leadership > follower, or learner > motivator that kind of thing.

so, a bank will need to hire different people based on their scores because if everyone is a leader then problem right the company coz everyone would want their way?

so , they need equal balance in all their hires and their scores for the aptitude test must go together with your CV.

if your aptitude scores show u are a leader BUT your CV does not indicate no leadership roles, of course got problem there right? leadership without experience right?
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its actually a speed and accuracy test. Sees how fast you are able to grasp and learn new things as well as ur creativity and imagination. A bit of IQ also
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anybody went to the 4th stage?
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QUOTE(fizzy @ Sep 4 2009, 01:57 PM)
the current economic recession is due to bad bankers...so there's nothing great bout being banker anyway...
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It's not unheard of for FO bankers at CIMB to get 13 months bonus. Now tell me, what other industries pay that kind of bonus? cool2.gif
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13months of bonus is true but u need to work 7days a week..everyday finish work around 12midnite..hows tht?
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Sep 6 2009, 03:17 AM)
It's not unheard of for FO bankers at CIMB to get 13 months bonus. Now tell me, what other industries pay that kind of bonus?  cool2.gif
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those bonus dont come from nothing.
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Hie, just want to ask, is all CIMB MT only offered in KL?
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those bonus dont come from nothing.
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Tell that to the auditors who work like shit and receives 0 bonus. Bankers have it good.
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Tell that to the auditors who work like shit and receives 0 bonus. Bankers have it good.
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Auditor is only feeling 50% of the pressure that an investment banker is struggling against.
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Auditor is only feeling 50% of the pressure that an investment banker is struggling against.
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obviously he has no idea what hes talking abt.
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i was called for interview this thursday for MT

any tips ?

feeling kinda nervous about it
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obviously he has no idea what hes talking abt.
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Would anyone happen to know how long they take to get back to you after the third round?

Also, how IS the last stage interview? I know she's nice but is it the usual generic interview questions or something else?

thanks.

(i'm happy to answer any questions about the first 3 rounds so just PM me or ask me here. Currently unemployed, duh, so am quite free and just went through them. In one week. So my memory's still quite fresh.)

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Haha, you guys are fighting over a bank that you might not even work for. Anyway, for someone who is currently under the programme, I can just say that this programme is definitely not for all people. They're very selective in their process, and they have certain criteria to fulfil.

And yes, the "IQ test" is not really an IQ test, it's just a test of how your brain works. Different people have different brains, so the brains will work differently. If you 'failed' the test, no worries. It don't mean you're stupid or low IQ. It's just that the way your thinking and grasping of things do not fit into the criteria they're looking for. There's no fail or pass actually. Just if your brain works the way they wanted it. So if you're not accepted after this stage, you just think a different way. That's it.

And if you borderline pass, they might see potential in you, so they're giving you a second chance. If anyone qualifies for this, do join it. I learn alot in 2 months, compared to my 4 years in university. But be warned, it does not come easy. Basically time will be your worst enemy. smile.gif


Added on September 28, 2009, 9:32 pmEsyll: How long depends on how free is Pn. Hamidah, the HR Director. She's a very nice person, so no worries. She's not hostile, she's one of the friendliest person I've ever met. There's no standard question she'll ask. Just one pointer for you. Know YOURSELF very well. Good luck and let me know if you're in! I can drop by and say hi. Haha.

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I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this question.. but i could not find any appropriate place other than this.. 1 month ago i received an email from CIMB asking if i was still interested in proceeding the application and therefore i said yes.. I provided CIMB my transcript and relevant info such as intended period of internship which begins in december to february etc etc..

1 month has passed i still haven heard anything from HR department.. does that mean i have to leave this or i just need to wait longer since the intended period begins in december..

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pepper99 - if you're really worried about it, I suggest you call them straight. I'm not sure about the internship process so it may be that they are taking a while and leaving it till closer to Dec or something else. So just call them. They're really nice people.
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pepper99 - if you're really worried about it, I suggest you call them straight. I'm not sure about the internship process so it may be that they are taking a while and leaving it till closer to Dec or something else. So just call them. They're really nice people.
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Thank you for ur kind response.. haha.. maybe im too worried.. coz i really wan to get involved in cimb.. LOL.. anyway im not in msia currently so i may not be able to call them.. but certainly i can email them about it.. hopefully i get something..

thanks alot.. laugh.gif
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That IS what they say at the interview stage and I assume they do carry their threat out. Even so, I think its safe to say that you're fired only if you really seriously screw things up. Think of the paper work they have to do to fire ppl!!! Anyway, so what if its a condition of their pay? They pay well, you work your ass off, claim OT, get paid more and when you do leave, at least its with an inflated bank account.
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@ fizzy - if not, I wouldn't have got an offer from any company, right? I'd rather be confident than worry bout whether they're going to fire me. I know myself and I'm not going to under perform, so why worry?
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I got reply from CIMB and the HR person said she will call me for phone interview as im in aus now.. anyone experienced this phone interview for internship before ?

Please guide me and give me some hints..

really nit help coz finals coming and have not much time to prepare for interview.. sad.gif
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Pepper,

you have been KIVed .

my advice resist temptation to call - 99 % chance the answer is NO. Then the blow to your ego will be big.

if you dont call your confident high , like saying ... ah L.. to you , I dont care if I get it or not . big difference to confidence.

confidence = everything
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QUOTE(pepper99 @ Oct 26 2009, 10:03 AM)
I got reply from CIMB and the HR person said she will call me for phone interview as im in aus now.. anyone experienced this phone interview for internship before ?

Please guide me and give me some hints..

really nit help coz finals coming and have not much time to prepare for interview.. sad.gif
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If you speak like a foreigner, then should got high chance already. Big companies nowadays like to hire people who can speak like a foreigner as management trainee. So if you able to speak, they should be welcome you for internship. Then you need to know more about CIMB before they phone to you.
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Wow, first time I heard that speaking like a foreigner will get you in. Hmmm, maybe I should try it out and see.
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teh liang seng, get back to work..

wai Kuen is watching uuuu.....
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calling by name

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anyone attended the assessment in the morning (28/10/09) at uptown1 here? Just wondering how long does it takes before they get back to you. From the forum, I see it ranges within a day to 1 month.
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lol, spy... hahaha
what spy, just a friend playing a prank
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thx for the replies anyway.. LOL..
anyway.. hope the interview will be more like saying job scope, salary those things..
because i have never heard interview for internship..

god bless tongue.gif
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freetohelp: Nola, WK not watching. LOL. You also very free what. BK din scold ar? Haha.

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never heard interview for internship.?

what planet do you live on ?
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never heard interview for internship.?

what planet do you live on ?
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wat i meant was cimb's internship interview.. of coz i heard of interview for internship..

i guess u r being a bit mean here.. or r u an expert in this field ?
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lol, obviously there are interviews for internship.

ya ill just walk into goldman sachs tomr morning and say 'HI, im here to start my internship'

anyway pepper, they prob wont expect much from you. but at least keep abreast with current market conditions. they would want you to have an interest in banking at least.
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no point saying dream.

they dont exists here
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QUOTE(pepper99 @ Oct 28 2009, 08:58 PM)
thx for the replies anyway.. LOL..
anyway.. hope the interview will be more like saying job scope, salary those things..
because i have never heard interview for internship..

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Job scope surely depends on the the team that the internship you applied for. Job scope cannot be judge from the department because there are a lot of small team inside. Do you even know which department are you going to interview for?

You don't need to expect HR to talk about salary to you since you are just interviewing for internship. Able to get few hundred for internship can consider as okay already.
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QUOTE(tata88 @ Oct 29 2009, 09:55 PM)
Job scope surely depends on the the team that the internship you applied for. Job scope cannot be judge from the department because there are a lot of small team inside. Do you even know which department are you going to interview for?

You don't need to expect HR to talk about salary to you since you are just interviewing for internship. Able to get few hundred for internship can consider as okay already.
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i have applied for a few departments and they haven confirmed anything with me.. so.. i dun think i know which department im going..
Also.. yes.. i know bout this.. i meant 100 is hundred.. 900 ais also hundred.. so at least i wan to know the exact or at least the range.. im willing to work even if it free.. i dun care seriously.. all i wan is to learn from the real world..


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may i know in which departments do you intend to do ur internship?

i say that they wont expect much from you coz honestly, what you do in the real world differs quite a bit from the theory you learn in uni. It is very unlikely youll be ready to do what they throw at you without being taught. Internships are there for you to learn and see how its done in the real world and also for them to have someone running around doing the donkey work.


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QUOTE(freetohelp @ Oct 30 2009, 11:00 AM)
may i know in which departments do you intend to do ur internship?

i say that they wont expect much from you coz honestly, what you do in the real world differs quite a bit from the theory you learn in uni. It is very unlikely youll be ready to do what they throw at you without being taught. Internships are there for you to learn and see how its done in the real world and also for them to have someone running around doing the donkey work.
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Erm I have stated that i wish to get into corporate finance, debt capital market and investment banking department.. anyway.. another HR person contacted me this morning.. so im not sure wats happening now.. just good luck to myself

thx for ur response !
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i dont think they have internship slots for debt capital markets. Corp finance and investment banking probably coz they need ppl to help around. But remember, its gonna be quite a bit of gruntwork.. photostating, scanning, data entry..

just learn the most you can out of your surroundings. Afterall an internship is for you to get a real view of whether that is what you wanna pursue in the future as a career
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debt capital IS CF.

The functions are not split so finely here.
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Different organizations put them under different departments and divisions. If you're talking in general, then probably DCM is CF.

But it could be different in CIMB. So yeah, need to see the organization itself.
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QUOTE(freetohelp @ Oct 30 2009, 02:13 PM)
i dont think they have internship slots for debt capital markets. Corp finance and investment banking probably coz they need ppl to help around. But remember, its gonna be quite a bit of gruntwork.. photostating, scanning, data entry..

just learn the most you can out of your surroundings. Afterall an internship is for you to get a real view of whether that is what you wanna pursue in the future as a career
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There are a lot department in CIMB Investment Bank. Even HR for CIMB Group is not in CIMB Bank but in CIMB Investment Bank. So the Investment Banking Department above sounds weird in CIMB Investment Bank.

I think that Corp finance maybe hard to approach in CIMB because if you realised what is happening in CIMB, you will know that a lot of the management trainee that they hired are looking for it also(I am not saying all management trainee but it is a lot). Even management trainee in CIMB hard to get into Corp finance for job training.
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seems like there r quite a number of experts here.. or insiders ?

erm.. care to elaborate more ? yea.. i juz wish to see the real world business indeed.. i know the theories may not be applied to the real world issues.. totally understand.. experience n connection are important.. so will try my best..


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QUOTE(pepper99 @ Oct 30 2009, 09:01 PM)
seems like there r quite a number of experts here.. or insiders ?

erm.. care to elaborate more ? yea.. i juz wish to see the real world business indeed.. i know the theories may not be applied to the real world issues.. totally understand.. experience n connection are important.. so will try my best..
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If you are given the chance for internship in CIMB Investment Bank, then you should be able to learn a lot.. I think that you will be able to learn at least how is the bank functioning. Gain the experience is very important because bank is a large industry and there are a lot of things to learn. What are you studying for your degree?
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I am actually doing 2nd year Bachelor of Commerce-accounting & finance here in aus.. so besides those core accounting n finance subjects.. i also learnt marketing,management,business strategy etc.. unlike those who do bachelor of accounting & finance.. this is the difference from wat i saw from my frens who are doing bachelor of accounting n finance..


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How much you learn in any place depends .

From my experience the bigger the place and name the worse it will be.

Many Aholes are know inhabit these places, whereas some 2nd line places with a good down to earth staff you may pick 2-3x as much.
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I passed 4th stage. biggrin.gif
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Got, intake is all year round, unless they stopped the programme.

4 actual intakes per year, but you can apply in anytime. They'll just absorp you in for rotation in the depts, and can start earning $$$. biggrin.gif
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hey guys..im back.. it was a fine day n i received 2 emails 1 after another.. both brought to me good news which i have been offered internship position in CIMB IBK as well as Bursa Malaysia's participants' supervision, regulation..

there comes my dilemma as i duno which to choose.. if i choose bursa.. i will get exposure to regulations n stuff regarding corporate finance.. on the other hand.. if i choose IBK .. i believe it is more challenging..

can someone plz guide ? i nit to reply asap ! icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(pepper99 @ Nov 20 2009, 08:34 PM)
hey guys..im back.. it was a fine day n i received 2 emails 1 after another.. both brought to me good news which i have been offered internship position in CIMB IBK as well as Bursa Malaysia's participants' supervision, regulation..

there comes my dilemma as i duno which to choose.. if i choose bursa.. i will get exposure to regulations n stuff regarding corporate finance.. on the other hand.. if i choose IBK .. i believe it is more challenging..

can someone plz guide ? i nit to reply asap !  icon_question.gif
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Bursa intern is to do what kind of things? The words "Bursa Malaysia's participants' supervision, regulation.." seems blur. I know intern is important for exposure and not what kind of task you going to do but the Bursa Malaysia intern seems too blur.

IBK is the unit name, right? It seems like a very challenging unit.
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Thanks for the input ! I guess there will be lots of paperwork involved as this division is about regulations and stuff regarding IPO etc etc.. Basically the function is to govern and overlook the market to ensure fair conduct..

whereby CIMB IBK which is investment banking.. im not too sure bout this.. anyway i have sent an email to ask more bout the department.. hopefully i will get reply tomorrow then perhaps i can make decision..

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email to HR or the person in the department? HR should be 99% not clear about what people doing. Unless the HR willing to help you ask the unit/team in the department that you are going to join for internship.
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yes indeed.. haha anyway.. she has replied me that i will be placed under Corporate Client Solutions (CCS) where more info can be found here.. http://www.ib.cimb.com/index.php?ch=ib_busi_ccs&tpt=1

i think by today i will be able to make up my mind.. hopefully .. tongue.gif
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If you were to be offered PWC Singapore financial advisory and CIMB Management Trainee, which will u choose?
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so pepper did you start in ccs?

loofatt : depends on what kind of advisory we are talking about, cos they have things like risk mgmt and performance improvement in pwc.
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so pepper did you start in ccs?

loofatt : depends on what kind of advisory we are talking about, cos they have things like risk mgmt and performance improvement in pwc.
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so pepper did you start in ccs?

loofatt : depends on what kind of advisory we are talking about, cos they have things like risk mgmt and performance improvement in pwc.
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not yet.. i will start next monday.. so anyone joining me here on monday ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(orkestra @ Dec 1 2009, 11:42 PM)
hi..is this MT only do in kl or got in any cimb branch??   unsure.gif
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From what I see, MTs are based in KL area so no, not in any CIMB branch. Do try though, great programme.

loofatt - can't say much cos I don't know bout S'pore's advisory but if you want, CIMB's great for a banking/finance background.

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hey guys so i have done the presentation (stage 3) of the interview but i have still yet to get a call from them, usually how long did you guys have to wait for? and if anyone got rejected here, did they actually call you to say you have been rejected? Oh well i hate to wait for replies especially when there are equally good offers elsewhere

btw.... any one kinda screwed up their presentation and still got a call???

lol.... lets share guys smile.gif
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either the next day or within the week.
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I have a question, there are several ways to apply for this MT. Which way is the best method to get response?

The online application does not seem to be working.

Thx in advance.

I think this is a great opportunity judging from everyone's comments.
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ice_brakerz: ckwei is right. I got my result in a few days, as I was travelling from outstation so the HR helped me out.
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Hey guys i got a called for 4th round today, the lady on the line said that i was to have an interview with this other lady whom i caught was Pn. Something, (lol... i was driving and was just shock to get a call after so long).

So guys any tips on the 4th round and how to impress the board??

Thanks
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First tip: Find out who that Pn. Something is. She is VERY important towards your career.

If you do not find out, there's no point anyone telling you more about the 4th round. smile.gif
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lol.... very good point, HR said she would call me again this week to confirm a time, i would definately ask her then

Just wanted to ask 4th round you got interview by how many people

btw assuming that you are already in the program i was just wondering whether you are actually getting anything from the program? Like learning and stuff.

Sorry to be asking these long questions just that i dunno what to choose right now

and thanks for your help
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CKWei explained quite abit in the other thread.

Learning or not, it depends on yourself. The layout of the programme is 2 months classroom training, 10 months rotation in departments. The 2 month classroom training is an eye opener for any graduates. It will expose you to what a bank is all bout, investment banking and consumer banking. Endurance must be high thought, as pressure and lack of sleep will kick in sometimes. smile.gif

As for rotations, you'll be rotated to departments within CIMB. You will get to choose which, but it will also be depending on whether there's vacancy in the department or not. As for learning curve during rotations, I believe it is up to the individual. If you're pro-active, then definitely you will learn something. If not, I can't say anything much bout it anymore. smile.gif

What's your education background again? Can PM me if you want. Or email.
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PMed.... thanks a lot
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I went for the interview, turns out they didn't invite me for MT but for FSTEP.

When i asked why i cannot go into MT, this is what she replied to me:

" O Sorry that program we ONLY OPEN FOR OVERSEAS graduate ".


Lol i didn't knew this. Never stated anywhere also on their recruitment ad.
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I went for the interview, turns out they didn't invite me for MT but for FSTEP.

When i asked why i cannot go into MT, this is what she replied to me:

" O Sorry that program we ONLY OPEN FOR OVERSEAS graduate ".
Lol i didn't knew this. Never stated anywhere also on their recruitment ad.
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MT is not open for overseas graduate only.. There are local university graduate also.. They told you like that because you cannot speak with oversea slang with local uni degree. The fact is they hire MT more than 90% of it is overseas graduate.

Local graduate can enter it also if you can speak very well. If you cannot speak with oversea slang english(but still consider as normal fluent english), you still able to enter if your achievement in your degree able to enlighten them(example, local graduate with 4.0 or nearly 4.0 CGPA from top university and good degree major).
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Well personally although i am not part of the programme i know friends who are in the programme but are actually local graduates. Maybe you can try to ask again?
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as long as you speak decent english and dont stuff up, it's fine. there's no such thing as recruiting only foreign grads. actually on the contrary they take in quite a number of local grads nowadays, with their whole aim of going local/regional. it used to be very very biased towards foreign grads, but not nowadays smile.gif

tata88: if the person has gpa4.0 but cant hold a decent conversation or sell him/herself well, its of no use. they have rejected plenty of gpa4 people just because they cant even speak in english.
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as long as you speak decent english and dont stuff up, it's fine. there's no such thing as recruiting only foreign grads. actually on the contrary they take in quite a number of local grads nowadays, with their whole aim of going local/regional. it used to be very very biased towards foreign grads, but not nowadays smile.gif

tata88: if the person has gpa4.0 but cant hold a decent conversation or sell him/herself well, its of no use. they have rejected plenty of gpa4 people just because they cant even speak in english.
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Looks like you misundertood the meaning of my sentences. I said local graduate that cannot speak in a foreign slang but still able to speak in a normal fluent english still possess chance if their achievement in their degree is very good such as CGPA 4 or nearly 4. Of course that the degree that the person possess have to be a well known local university and the degree is not simply any cheap degree(I mean not those degree in some degree in some local university that is not hard to obtain CGPA 4).

There is actually another reason for normal local graduates hard to get into MT in cimb. There are also master degree fresh graduates from local/overseas applying for the MT. The master degree graduates are not just master degree graduates majoring related to finance/banking/mathematics/accounting but there are a lot of people applying such as majoring in something where the knowledge is absolutely not able to apply in bank. This situation is normal because the economics before this was miserable(the economics just starting to recover. Those master degree holder maybe hard for them to apply for job in the field where they studied such as engineering/aviation/agriculture/petroleum since those industry itself are facing their own problem and cimb MT able to provide them nice salary).

Note: I did not ever say GPA 4 then can have high chance to get into MT and GPA 4 is very different with CGPA 4. GPA means only 1 semester able to get 4.
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I achieved Band 6 in MUET, i can speak English fluently and i am a first class student. (Not showing off or anything).

That is why i was a bit disappointed when she said that.

But she is a nice person lah, she advised me to apply for other permanent jobs in CIMB since MT is very exclusive.

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I achieved Band 6 in MUET, i can speak English fluently and i am a first class student. (Not showing off or anything).

That is why i was a bit disappointed when she said that.

But she is a nice person lah, she advised me to apply for other permanent jobs in CIMB since MT is very exclusive.
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MT is just salary higher and able to get more different exposure only. If you able to get a permanent job that you really want in CIMB/other companies, MT is not that special too. Maybe she got order from her boss to recruit only overseas graduate for the coming batch of MT(no one knows except the HR).
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Hmm..... its actually kinda wierd, maybe you should really ask again and clarify...... in all honesty i would choose a permenent job over MT too

BTW GUYS please advise on 4th rouund....... how many questions where they and how long was it??

Thanks
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QUOTE(darren08 @ Jan 16 2010, 01:14 AM)
I went for the interview, turns out they didn't invite me for MT but for FSTEP.

When i asked why i cannot go into MT, this is what she replied to me:

" O Sorry that program we ONLY OPEN FOR OVERSEAS graduate ".
Lol i didn't knew this. Never stated anywhere also on their recruitment ad.
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Just wondering, has anyone else got this reply before when applying for CIMB Complete Banker Programme?

Also, is there anyone here who're in the CIMB Complete Banker Programme but are graduates from local universities?


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The Programme is offered to qualified fresh graduates, or those with less than one year of working experience, from both local and foreign universities.

The above quote is from the CIMB Complete Banker Programme (TCB) site over here:
http://www.cimb.com/index.php?ch=group_ch_...&tpt=cimb_group

So it's a little conflicting what the CIMB person mentioned to darren08 and what the CIMB website says.

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Just wondering, has anyone else got this reply before when applying for CIMB Complete Banker Programme?

Also, is there anyone here who're in the CIMB Complete Banker Programme but are graduates from local universities?
The above quote is from the CIMB Complete Banker Programme (TCB) site over here:
http://www.cimb.com/index.php?ch=group_ch_...&tpt=cimb_group

So it's a little conflicting what the CIMB person mentioned to darren08 and what the CIMB website says.
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I can only say "There were few local graduates in TCB" but if you want to ask whether will there still be any local graduates in TCB in the future, only HR know the answer.
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Looks like you misundertood the meaning of my sentences. I said local graduate that cannot speak in a foreign slang but still able to speak in a normal fluent english still possess chance if their achievement in their degree is very good such as CGPA 4 or nearly 4. Of course that the degree that the person possess have to be a well known local university and the degree is not simply any cheap degree(I mean not those degree in some degree in some local university that is not hard to obtain CGPA 4).

There is actually another reason for normal local graduates hard to get into MT in cimb. There are also master degree fresh graduates from local/overseas applying for the MT. The master degree graduates are not just master degree graduates majoring related to finance/banking/mathematics/accounting but there are a lot of people applying such as majoring in something where the knowledge is absolutely not able to apply in bank. This situation is normal because the economics before this was miserable(the economics just starting to recover. Those master degree holder maybe hard for them to apply for job in the field where they studied such as engineering/aviation/agriculture/petroleum since those industry itself are facing their own problem and cimb MT able to provide them nice salary).

Note: I did not ever say GPA 4 then can have high chance to get into MT and GPA 4 is very different with CGPA 4. GPA means only 1 semester able to get 4.
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Wow, I really hope you're not in the programme tata88. You're giving some REALLY misguided information here.

#1: I am a local graduate, from UPM. Not UM or USM or UKM but UPM. (Go check out the rankings of the local universities and you'll know where UPM stands)
#2 : I dont speak in a foreign slang. In fact, I had a few Manglish moments in my conversation with the HR and HR Director herself. The "lah"s and all.
#3: I do not own any master credentials. Only a Bachelor's degree in Accountancy.
#4: Never in my 4 years had I obtained any GPA 4, or CGPA of 4. My CGPA is only 3.7*** ( save the details! biggrin.gif)

I'm just posting this to correct some mis-information given here.

As for whether or not local graduates are still being accepted, the HR will have to confirm that. But one of my friends just got called up for interview. There is no reason they will call you up if they're not hiring. So my guess is, locals are still accepted, but I guess the selection criteria just gotten stricter as there are more and more people applying to it.

Darren08: The FSTEP programme is by Bank Negara if I am not mistaken. So rest assured the quality will be there. And you will be working for CIMB when you complete it also right? Give it some thought.

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Wow, I really hope you're not in the programme tata88. You're giving some REALLY misguided information here.

#1: I am a local graduate, from UPM. Not UM or USM or UKM but UPM. (Go check out the rankings of the local universities and you'll know where UPM stands)
#2 : I dont speak in a foreign slang. In fact, I had a few Manglish moments in my conversation with the HR and HR Director herself. The "lah"s and all.
#3: I do not own any master credentials. Only a Bachelor's degree in Accountancy.
#4: Never in my 4 years had I obtained any GPA 4, or CGPA of 4. My CGPA is only 3.7*** ( save the details! biggrin.gif)

I'm just posting this to correct some mis-information given here.

As for whether or not local graduates are still being accepted, the HR will have to confirm that. But one of my friends just got called up for interview. There is no reason they will call you up if they're not hiring. So my guess is, locals are still accepted, but I guess the selection criteria just gotten stricter as there are more and more people applying to it.

Darren08: The FSTEP programme is by Bank Negara if I am not mistaken. So rest assured the quality will be there. And you will be working for CIMB when you complete it also right? Give it some thought.
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Did you see there must be some master degree holder same/different batch with you in TCB? If you did see there are some master degree holder in each batch, then i am correct.

If you want to say UPM is low level(i did not say which is high/low level), you were wrong again. UPM is 1 of the 4 universities that government trying to turn it as "Research University"(or with some other name) where UM, USM and UKM is in the list of "Research University". Not all universities in Malaysia got the chance to be name as "Research University".

3.7x is not too near 4 but still consider as sufficient to be grade as 1st class.

For the Manglish, you maybe the special 1 in there. Is there a lot with Manglish there?

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No master students from local universities. I guess you need to recheck your facts.

Don't let me get started about UPM. Unless you come from there too, then you will know what is going on in there. And all the buzz and fuss about "Research University", it looks cool to outsiders. But when insiders like me actually gets to see what they do with the money, then it's not much of a hoo haa anymore. And when I mean by rankings, I mean the international university rankings. There is no point being a 'jaguh kampung' when at the end of the day, we're all merely proud that we're doing nothing that matters.

I am not proud of what is going in my alma mater, but rest assured I will be back there to sort things out.

My grades are on the low 3.7, so it is not first class. And as for Manglish, we're Malaysians. Do the math.

Also, MT's is not just a higher salary contrary to popular beliefs. We get to be rotated to departments where no fresh grads can enter. And chances are, if we perform there, we will be confirmed there.

Anyway, I just need to clarify that I am posting all these as you are sending all the wrong information out. Which is why I am asking if you are from the programme itself. If not, don't simply post stuff la. If yes, I have to speak to HR. Haha. Just kidding bro/sis.

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Just spotted another anomaly:

On the CIMB website, it says minimum academic grade requirement is a CGPA of 3.30.
http://www.cimb.com/index.php?ch=group_ch_...&tpt=cimb_group

But in two of the printed adverts, one from GradMalaysia.com's book "Malaysia's 100 leading graduate employers 2008" and the other from Biz:connexion's (Graduan.com.my) "Graduan 2009"; the CIMB advert says that the minimum academic grade requirement is a CGPA of 3.00 or above.

I'm at 3.00, and so I'm stuck between the two shocking.gif

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No master students from local universities. I guess you need to recheck your facts.

Don't let me get started about UPM. Unless you come from there too, then you will know what is going on in there. And all the buzz and fuss about "Research University", it looks cool to outsiders. But when insiders like me actually gets to see what they do with the money, then it's not much of a hoo haa anymore. And when I mean by rankings, I mean the international university rankings. There is no point being a 'jaguh kampung' when at the end of the day, we're all merely proud that we're doing nothing that matters.

I am not proud of what is going in my alma mater, but rest assured I will be back there to sort things out.

My grades are on the low 3.7, so it is not first class. And as for Manglish, we're Malaysians. Do the math.

Also, MT's is not just a higher salary contrary to popular beliefs. We get to be rotated to departments where no fresh grads can enter. And chances are, if we perform there, we will be confirmed there.

Anyway, I just need to clarify that I am posting all these as you are sending all the wrong information out. Which is why I am asking if you are from the programme itself. If not, don't simply post stuff la. If yes, I have to speak to HR. Haha. Just kidding bro/sis.
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I need to clarify again... I did say about master degree holder in TCB but i did not say whether they are from local universities. I actually mean that there are also competition from master degree holder for TCB.

You were from UPM so you feel that UPM exists something like this which you posted "But when insiders like me actually gets to see what they do with the money, then it's not much of a hoo haa anymore." but you were not from UM, USM or UKM. Why would you think that those three universities will surely better than UPM in terms of how they use their money?

For the international rankings for UM, USM, UKM and UPM. There is no point in talking about ranking for Malaysia universities internationally because it fluctuates every year. This year you see it increase, next year you probably see it decrease. UM, USM, UKM and UPM is around rank 200. How can you differentiate the quality from it? Can you say rank 200 is better than rank 210 or 220? I am curious about how you interpret the ranking of universities.. If you want to compare Harvard with UM, USM, UKM and UPM, then it will be obvious but don't try to see things you want to see from the number of the ranking for UM, UKM, UPM and USM.

I did say MT is nothing special but i also said only if he/she can get a permanent job that he interested in. If a person can get a permanent job that he wants and the position can also be pursue if he/she get into MT, then what is the difference between 2 situation? Of course, the main difference will be in $.

If any people feel that my information is really wrong, just ignore it.
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I need to clarify again... I did say about master degree holder in TCB but i did not say whether they are from local universities. I actually mean that there are also competition from master degree holder for TCB.

You were from UPM so you feel that UPM exists something like this which you posted "But when insiders like me actually gets to see what they do with the money, then it's not much of a hoo haa anymore." but you were not from UM, USM or UKM. Why would you think that those three universities will surely better than UPM in terms of how they use their money?

For the international rankings for UM, USM, UKM and UPM. There is no point in talking about ranking for Malaysia universities internationally because it fluctuates every year. This year you see it increase, next year you probably see it decrease. UM, USM, UKM and UPM is around rank 200. How can you differentiate the quality from it? Can you say rank 200 is better than rank 210 or 220? I am curious about how you interpret the ranking of universities.. If you want to compare Harvard with UM, USM, UKM and UPM, then it will be obvious but don't try to see things you want to see from the number of the ranking for UM, UKM, UPM and USM.

I did say MT is nothing special but i also said only if he/she can get a permanent job that he interested in. If a person can get a permanent job that he wants and the position can also be pursue if he/she get into MT, then what is the difference between 2 situation? Of course, the main difference will be in $.

If any people feel that my information is really wrong, just ignore it.
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Ok i aint going to side anybody but something kinda ticked me, the fact that your last sentence says 'If any people feel that my information is really wrong, just ignore it.', is kinda irresponsible. Before you whack back at me i would just like to clarify that i aint saying that you are wrong about your info, but i certainly do believe that whatever you have pointed out or are going to be pointed out needs to be supported by facts. This is due to the fact that you can actually REALLY misled someone that might actually be interested in the industry but might face certain doubts becuase of what you have just said. This is especially so when someone i know has just called up directly to me asking about details once she read your forum (lol.... i actually told her to check it out) and it got her even more confused.

Hence i would side with AS, and question whether are you actually in the programme? Cause if not you are certainly causing certain amounts of misguidance.

Hope you are not offended, i just want to make sure the right amount of information is being passed on to our potential buddies in the future

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Oooo, I know cause at night my soul flies out from my body and checks out the accounting records of those unis. Is there anyway we can delete those posts? Certainly destroying the purpose of this thread. Tata88 seems a little lost.

But anyway, as for CGPA, I have no idea. Even if minimum is 3.00, but everyone else is 3.5, of course 3.5 has preference right? But just apply lah. Even if your CGPA is low, but they see something special in you, or you have special skills that fit in, who knows? It never hurts to try. It only kills that you never tried.

But try to improve your CGPA la. One more semester, do your best!!!!

Keep us updated.
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the cgpa is just a guideline. i know of people who has entered with just a 60pt avg and still did fine smile.gif
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Oooo, I know cause at night my soul flies out from my body and checks out the accounting records of those unis. Is there anyway we can delete those posts? Certainly destroying the purpose of this thread. Tata88 seems a little lost.

But anyway, as for CGPA, I have no idea. Even if minimum is 3.00, but everyone else is 3.5, of course 3.5 has preference right? But just apply lah. Even if your CGPA is low, but they see something special in you, or you have special skills that fit in, who knows? It never hurts to try. It only kills that you never tried.

But try to improve your CGPA la. One more semester, do your best!!!!

Keep us updated.
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Yep, one last semester! Results from last semester was released on Monday, managed to get 4.0!! rclxm9.gif

Will update again rclxms.gif

QUOTE(ckwei @ Jan 19 2010, 10:28 PM)
the cgpa is just a guideline. i know of people who has entered with just a 60pt avg and still did fine smile.gif
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Wow! Shall do my best!
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smile.gif congrats.... gambate for the last one then...
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OMG! Although there are a lot of misconception going on here, some of them are true. Most employers nowadays would prefer going for foreign grads due to their international exposure and diverse experience, unlike local grads. I'm not saying that the local grads aren't as good, as it still depends on the individual itself. For me, I'm going for the 3rd stage (business presentation) and I'm still cracking my head on thinking what to say for this presentation. Really worried! And yes, there are a lot of uncertainties, but if u do good, I believe that we will be fine. smile.gif Anyway, it says that the presentation would take 15 mins, never did that b4! Usually it is <10 mins! icon_question.gif

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So, Pepper. Where are you now? Are you telling me you turned down Bursa!? ZOMG! tongue.gif
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hey guys any of you recently got hired??? i'm still awaiting for my fourth round =(
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QUOTE(ice_brakerz @ Jan 28 2010, 06:25 PM)
hey guys any of you recently got hired??? i'm still awaiting for my fourth round =(
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when was your third round?
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last week actually. im still waiting for my fourth round, no reply yet. Gan cheong all the time now. Anyone in the 4th round before, any tips that u can provide?

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yeap i am also waiting for my fourth round, but they called to tell me that it would be after CNY, i dont think i would be waiting around much longer for them already....... good luck buddie
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QUOTE(ice_brakerz @ Feb 2 2010, 12:51 PM)
yeap i am also waiting for my fourth round, but they called to tell me that it would be after CNY, i dont think i would be waiting around much longer for them already....... good luck buddie
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Serious? Isn't CIMB like a highly sought after place to work?

I went to a career fair at my uni today, met the CIMB recruiters and spoke to them. It seems (to me) that I should start looking for ways to finance a MBA (Business and Finance), otherwise the "vegas odds" are stacked up against me.

*begins search for another 15k*


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QUOTE(DeniseLau @ Feb 2 2010, 11:16 PM)
Serious? Isn't CIMB like a highly sought after place to work?

I went to a career fair at my uni today, met the CIMB recruiters and spoke to them. It seems (to me) that I should start looking for ways to finance a MBA (Business and Finance), otherwise the "vegas odds" are stacked up against me.

*begins search for another 15k*
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Erm.... ok lets just put it this way, CIMB one of the top banks in malaysia, high salary, good opportunity. People want to get in because of these.

But equivalently, if you have the academics but lack the experience you can always work in another firm that provides you with the opportunities.

It depends on what you are after..... the money that comes with the job, or the job that comes with the money.

I would love to work in CIMB too, but they keep delaying and stuff, wasting my time.
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Woot. Don't wanna wait la, but will try to hang on. Luckily I'm still in the interview process with other companies. But I'll call and see how it goes.
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Yeah i dont want to wait also, not likei go CIMB guarantee i can become successful also, my friend just kena from the head yesterday lol......
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What u mean by just kena? Lol.
What someone in cimb told me is that the position for IB is almost saturated already, and they're surprised that more is coming inside.

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Yeah i dont want to wait also, not likei go CIMB guarantee i can become successful also, my friend just kena from the head yesterday lol......
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Yeah, you're right I guess. Where're you headed to next?

Also, what you mean by kena shocking.gif?

QUOTE(gloomberg @ Feb 4 2010, 07:58 PM)
What u mean by just kena? Lol.
What someone in cimb told me is that the position for IB is almost saturated already, and they're surprised that more is coming inside.
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Wow saturated? Maybe they take in more because they want to expand?
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Hi, I was just wondering if anyone had any information about the last stage? I mean the interview with Pn Hamidah Naziadin. Because I've been looking around and there just doesn't seem to be any information about the 2nd interview at all. Any info would be highly appreciated!
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Erm.... ok lets just put it this way, CIMB one of the top banks in malaysia, high salary, good opportunity. People want to get in because of these.

But equivalently, if you have the academics but lack the experience you can always work in another firm that provides you with the opportunities.

It depends on what you are after..... the money that comes with the job, or the job that comes with the money.

I would love to work in CIMB too, but they keep delaying and stuff, wasting my time.
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just hang on! i know what u're going through...they can be agonizingly slow! i waited for ages...time flew by for me cause i was busy travelling. Nonetheless, 2 things u gotta remember; 1 - the last interview takes ages cause the head of HR is a very busy lady and 2 - if u're through to the last round i'd say u're 95% there and its merely a formality



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QUOTE(4021987 @ Feb 6 2010, 04:02 PM)
just hang on! i know what u're going through...they can be agonizingly slow! i waited for ages...time flew by for me cause i was busy travelling. Nonetheless, 2 things u gotta remember; 1 - the last interview takes ages cause the head of HR is a very busy lady and 2 - if u're through to the last round i'd say u're 95% there and its merely a formality

FYI - I got told the verdict of my 4th round 10 minutes after the interview with her just last week! I start next month
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Don't decline any offer that you get..
Yup, it will undergo 4 round of interview..
what i heard, salary is >rm2800.
But if you really interested in banking line then i think you should take up this oppurtunity,then.
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Whoa! Didn't know the last interview is with Pn H. She's very busy all the time. Patience will reward you. You can always give a friendly reminder call to check hows things were.
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if you're through to the 4th, doesn't mean you'll get it. the 4th is a 50-50 game, very, very subjective. if you've aced the first 3, but if pn. H says no during the final stage, then it will still be a no go.
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wow, congrats on ur success !
btw, do you mind disclosing a little bit bout ur academic qualification such as which uni did you attend etc?
and how would you rate your command of english? judging from how competitive this program is,
i think you are not those who speak broken english right?

im interested in joining this program,
but i feel that im not on par with the other graduates out there.
anyway, i still have one more year to go b4 i graduate,
hopefully i would be able to improve myself.  tongue.gif
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I'm still waiting for my 4th interview, where is the reply man... The 3 panel of judges say I did pretty well for a fresh grad... Kena con is it...


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QUOTE(ckwei @ Feb 7 2010, 01:17 PM)
if you're through to the 4th, doesn't mean you'll get it. the 4th is a 50-50 game, very, very subjective. if you've aced the first 3, but if pn. H says no during the final stage, then it will still be a no go.
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Very demoralizing indeed, ckwei. Anyway, if you can do well in the first 3, and not with her, there must be sth horribly wrong that happened right? that would be like the worst case scenario. I'm waiting for the 4th, the HR lady say have patience as Pn.H is a very very bz woman. *meditate* still, i want a confirmation...

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QUOTE(gloomberg @ Feb 7 2010, 03:29 PM)
I'm still waiting for my 4th interview, where is the reply man... The 3 panel of judges say I did pretty well for a fresh grad... Kena con is it...


Added on February 7, 2010, 3:35 pm

Very demoralizing indeed, ckwei. Anyway, if you can do well in the first 3, and not with her, there must be sth horribly wrong that happened right? that would be like the worst case scenario. I'm waiting for the 4th, the HR lady say have patience as Pn.H is a very very bz woman. *meditate* still, i want a confirmation...
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hahaha yeah I know that exact feeling...and ckwei is right too. You shouldn't consider this a done deal until you do get that confirmation. Pn.H does sign off on all candidates and I have been turned down at that late of the stage before. Having said that, they won't just ignore you for long! They will get back to you with a date....and if you get a confirmation do lemme know! Maybe we'll start together! wink.gif
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QUOTE(4021987 @ Feb 8 2010, 03:27 AM)
hahaha yeah I know that exact feeling...and ckwei is right too. You shouldn't consider this a done deal until you do get that confirmation. Pn.H does sign off on all candidates and I have been turned down at that late of the stage before. Having said that, they won't just ignore you for long! They will get back to you with a date....and if you get a confirmation do lemme know! Maybe we'll start together! wink.gif
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Turn down?? i though you said you got the job? Anyways congrats smile.gif

Well i do not wish to describe what my friend went through here i am sure we will all make the same mistakes as well.


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Anyone here studying in the UK and thinking of going to the UKEC careers fair in March?

I heard last year those selected get to do interview with Pn Hamidah straight away, does this mean that we'll get to skip the first three stages or what? A senior from my university got an offer last year but she turns it down for PwC...lol

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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Feb 10 2010, 05:33 AM)
Anyone here studying in the UK and thinking of going to the UKEC careers fair in March?

I heard last year those selected get to do interview with Pn Hamidah straight away, does this mean that we'll get to skip the first three stages or what? A senior from my university got an offer last year but she turns it down for PwC...lol
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Exactly, I completed my 4th stage of interview in mid december.
But, until now, no response from them.
The HR staffs actually told me I am 80% in.
Till now, no response!!!!!

Anyway, I decided to move on with PwC Singapore-Financial Advisory Services.

Good luck for those who still choose to wait... =)
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But it could almost mean u're not in, usually they would definitely contact u if u're in. But anyway, pwc is far better!

Can we actually apply for job in SIngapore?
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QUOTE(loofatt @ Feb 12 2010, 04:34 PM)
Exactly, I completed my 4th stage of interview in mid december.
But, until now, no response from them.
The HR staffs actually told me I am 80% in.
Till now, no response!!!!!

Anyway, I decided to move on with PwC Singapore-Financial Advisory Services.

Good luck for those who still choose to wait... =)
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did they inform you that you're through to the last round? and they didnt ask you when you're free to set the interview date?

either way they should have informed you that you weren't successful!

but if they really told you that you're 80% through and just left it at that...then thats just plain ridiculous and unprofessional.

regardless, good to know it all worked out for you in the end!
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QUOTE(4021987 @ Feb 13 2010, 05:04 PM)
did they inform you that you're through to the last round? and they didnt ask you when you're free to set the interview date?

either way they should have informed you that you weren't successful!

but if they really told you that you're 80% through and just left it at that...then thats just plain ridiculous and unprofessional.

regardless, good to know it all worked out for you in the end!
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did you call up to ask them? Cause i recently just attended the last round and i was told that i got the job there and then but anyways PWC is good too
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Sorry if this post if a bit off topic, but I'm interested to compare CIMB management trainee to HSBC management trainee.

Considering that is a lot of action in this tread, I assumed that a lot of people are interested in CIMB. So for those that do apply to CIMB, do you guys consider other banks like HSBC? (Yet to verified this) On top of that I heard HSBC offer 4+k for the programme!

I figure HSBC is a well known bank (internationally) but there is hardly any info on this forum haha.
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QUOTE(ice_brakerz @ Feb 14 2010, 12:36 AM)
did you call up to ask them? Cause i recently just attended the last round and i was told that i got the job there and then but anyways PWC is good too
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Hey, when did u attend the last round interview? Would they still call for anyone? Which intake you will be in? March or April? Is the Pn.H really that busy?
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Any idea who are the others interviewers that might interview the interviewee? I went for the interview, and heard she introduced herself as Pn. Hazima, which i am not quite sure am i right... She seems to be too young to be Pn. Hamidah... rclxub.gif
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i think you got Ms Azimah =)

anybody starting work soon??
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i think you got Ms Azimah =)

anybody starting work soon??
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Hmm.... I'm gonna get the last interview next week, so which batch would i be in? lol.

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it will be 50-50 in last round...i was rejected in the last round too...even if u r called up for last round, there are a few other candidates, they can't be taking in all right? anyway, just be urself and be confident....i guess that's the key....
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Great news for those of you who join Management Trainee @CIMB.
An insider told me that after 3 years, you have a very good chance to become Assistant Manager...
Normally you will need atleast 5- 6 years to get into that position.
So good luck!
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i wonder if i got into management trainee as well? coz i ll have my 3rd stage interview tomorrow but they told me its for Change department in HR .
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ice breakerz and 04021987 where are you guys starting in?

niko : some MTs get promoted after the 2nd year(which is actually after the 1st year of you being absorbed into a dept for a permanent role)
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hi,does it still open now?
i cant apply it online.Got some error occur.
shall i email them my resume?
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what i did was to email to their hr email.
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Hr for management trainee program is the way to go. rclxms.gif
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ice breakerz and 04021987 where are you guys starting in?

niko : some MTs get promoted after the 2nd year(which is actually after the 1st year of you being absorbed into a dept for a permanent role)
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i am going to start in april 1st how about you???

wow 3 years to become assistant manager is cool... more often you will need 5-6 years experience before you get promoted.........

lol... just wondering is there a salary difference between the 1st year probation and the 2nd year absorbtion?
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lol,i got promoted to AM after 1.5year with CIMB, start fresh laugh.gif
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lol,i got promoted to AM after 1.5year with CIMB, start fresh laugh.gif
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WOW!!!! CONGRATS!!! any difference in pay? BTW promoted after 1.5 years does it include the 2 years bonding etc etc etc?
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WOW!!!! CONGRATS!!! any difference in pay? BTW promoted after 1.5 years does it include the 2 years bonding etc etc etc?
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hi ppl..im also looking for opportunity in CIMB.. as I was with an international bank previously in IT department...I was there for 2yrs plus..

i 've tried applying via jobstreet for cimb IT post but didnt get any feedback..im pretty sure my qualification n experience is good enough 2 earn a call 4 interview but sadly no so far..

any1 can tell or advice if i should send my cv to the hr or relevant person in charge..n how can i do tht..

many thanks in advance..ur help much apreciated
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CIMB MT is very very strict with regards to people having 2 years or more experience.

Only people with less than if not mistaken 1 year working experience would be called. Any1 can clarify?
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sent in my cv on 24 feb til now oso no reply... any idea? is it closed dy? LOL
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i dunno about the experience part, but i did send in my CV to HR got a call for interview in less then 24 hours for the 1st interview
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QUOTE(sk07 @ Mar 4 2010, 05:10 PM)
hi ppl..im also looking for opportunity in CIMB.. as I was with an international bank previously in IT department...I was there for 2yrs plus..

i 've tried applying via jobstreet for cimb IT post but didnt get any feedback..im pretty sure my qualification n experience is good enough 2 earn a call 4 interview but sadly no so far..

any1  can tell or advice if i should send my cv to the hr or relevant person in charge..n how can i do tht..

many thanks in advance..ur help much apreciated
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I think CIMB MT only accept those with less than 2 years work experience..
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QUOTE(ice_brakerz @ Mar 5 2010, 03:16 PM)
i dunno about the experience part, but i did send in my CV to HR got a call for interview in less then 24 hours for the 1st interview
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hi ice_breakerz, to whom did u forward ur CV, can u share the email add

btw if im not qualified for CIMB MT program due to 2 yrs + experience, I still do see lots of IT post adverstised in jobstreet, but I think its pretty hard and the process kind a slow.

any1 can help forward CV to relevant person or provide the email address here.. :-)
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hi guys, if you're looking for IT job, can u pm me yr skillset?

tks


Added on March 5, 2010, 10:01 pmi just need to know what language u know.

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QUOTE(sk07 @ Mar 5 2010, 10:51 PM)
hi ice_breakerz, to whom did u forward ur CV, can u share the email add

btw if im not qualified for CIMB MT program due to 2 yrs + experience, I still do see lots of IT post adverstised in jobstreet, but I think its pretty hard and the process kind a slow.

any1 can help forward CV to relevant person or provide the email address here.. :-)
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its the email address stated on their website =)
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QUOTE(ice_brakerz @ Mar 5 2010, 03:16 PM)
i dunno about the experience part, but i did send in my CV to HR got a call for interview in less then 24 hours for the 1st interview
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hi, so have u got a call for second interview? and if yes how long it takes to notify you?


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last week actually. im still waiting for my fourth round, no reply yet. Gan cheong all the time now. Anyone in the 4th round before, any tips that u can provide?
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Hey, how long do you have to wait from first stage to second stage of your interview?


Added on March 10, 2010, 9:40 amanyone can tell me how long you have been waiting from 1st stage to second stage?pls? thank you very much =)

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QUOTE(von7 @ Mar 9 2010, 02:05 PM)
hi, so have u got a call for second interview? and if yes how long it takes to notify you?


Added on March 9, 2010, 2:14 pm
Hey, how long do you have to wait from first stage to second stage of your interview?


Added on March 10, 2010, 9:40 amanyone can tell me how long you have been waiting from 1st stage to second stage?pls? thank you very much =)
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Hey,

I did my second stage (it was a test to suss out your learning abilities) last week, HR called 1 day after my 1st stage of interview. Have yet to hear anything about the 3rd stage.

Any ideas on how many days of annual leave a 1st year Management Trainee gets?
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QUOTE(ice_brakerz @ Mar 7 2010, 03:49 PM)
its the email address stated on their website =)
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thnx dude..il try email them then..tried applied via jobstreet for several positions but no reply..
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1st to 2nd- 1 day
2nd to 3rd- 1 week
3rd to 4th- 6 weeks

thanks
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Hey,

I did my second stage (it was a test to suss out your learning abilities) last week, HR called 1 day after my 1st stage of interview. Have yet to hear anything about the 3rd stage.

Any ideas on how many days of annual leave a 1st year Management Trainee gets?
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so anyone starting work soon? likein april??

and how are the classes like? Tough? Boring? Can Die?

Seniors please give advice

thanks
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Who else is starting soon? Just curious to know.

Ice_brakerz: I heard it's an experience of a lifetime. You have to go through it to savour it.
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haha well if i ask for help in this experience of a life time of mine please do help me out k

thanks
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Yo guys! I decided to reject CIMB! Take that! Reject them right in the face! Haha! (the rejecting was real, but no right in the face la, it's not professional)

Why I did that? Well, advise from seniors and friends... and it's straying too far off from the career path i should be in... Wanna know more? Wait till i get another job offer! Call me stupid, but i'd made up my mind....
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haha, cant help you if i dont see you can i?
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gloomberg what were you planning to do? as in whats your direction of your career path if you dont mind me asking, i mean after all you have gone through so much in the interview lol....

arse-seng which tcb batch are you?
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Hi guys... I have completed my third stage of interview on the 25th of Feb... But until today I still haven't got a call back from CIMB regarding 4th stage... Does it mean I should give up already?
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hey pal i had the same problem like i said i waited 6 weeks before i got my 4th round call, so maybe you could just hang in there or get updated from the HR
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QUOTE(panda@bear @ Mar 18 2010, 11:18 AM)
Hi guys... I have completed my third stage of interview on the 25th of Feb... But until today I still haven't got a call back from CIMB regarding 4th stage... Does it mean I should give up already?
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Hey panda@bear, I've also went for the 3rd stage on the 25th Feb and hv yet to be called for the final interview. When I called Ms Azimah last week, she asked me to wait and to call her today if there's still no news from her. Maybe you can try calling her up also though its quite difficult getting through coz I think she's often away conducting interviews.
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I got called for CIMB for some panel interview for this upcoming friday on the 25th of March. Any one have that too?
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QUOTE(gloomberg @ Mar 18 2010, 12:42 AM)
Yo guys! I decided to reject CIMB! Take that! Reject them right in the face! Haha! (the rejecting was real, but no right in the face la, it's not professional)

Why I did that? Well, advise from seniors and friends... and it's straying too far off from the career path i should be in... Wanna know more? Wait till i get another job offer! Call me stupid, but i'd made up my mind....
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DUDE!!! *smacks head*

haha

nah good on ya! they did make u wait for freakin ages right?


hope u find what u're looking for! fire away any questions u might have bout TCB if u're still uncertain....

good luck!

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Hey panda@bear, I've also went for the 3rd stage on the 25th Feb and hv yet to be called for the final interview. When I called Ms Azimah last week, she asked me to wait and to call her today if there's still no news from her. Maybe you can try calling her up also though its quite difficult getting through coz I think she's often away conducting interviews.
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Ya.. I tried calling her today but couldn't reach her... So frustrating!!


QUOTE(underpressure @ Mar 19 2010, 05:44 PM)
I got called for CIMB for some panel interview for this upcoming friday on the 25th of March. Any one have that too?
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Did you just get the call today? But I thought the final stage is conducted by the HR Director and not a panel interview?

QUOTE(4021987 @ Mar 19 2010, 09:48 PM)
DUDE!!! *smacks head*

haha

nah good on ya! they did make u wait for freakin ages right?

but its a shame as we would have been in the same batch...TCB 15 starting April 1st! im starting to think TCB Associates are abit like a fraternity that tend to stick together...but its no surprise as you would have been in for 2 months of pretty much living together with 16 others (including me) in a small shack known as the 'Learning Center' (or what i expect to be a 'brainwashing prison') up on a hill behind Jalan Semantan! wink.gif so its not too late to pull back ur rejection letter right?! haha

hope u find what u're looking for! fire away any questions u might have bout TCB if u're still uncertain....

good luck!
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Hey... May I know if the ppl from CIMB told you that they have already chosen 16 candidates for the 15th Batch TCB starting in April?
Coz if this is the case, then I don't think they are going to be taking in more people... which means no 4th round for me.. ><~


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they hire 4 times a year, so even if batch15 is full if u make the cut u can still make it for batch16, difference is just that u'll prolly start your rotation first.
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QUOTE(ckwei @ Mar 20 2010, 01:22 AM)
they hire 4 times a year, so even if batch15 is full if u make the cut u can still make it for batch16, difference is just that u'll prolly start your rotation first.
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Ohh... hopefully it works this way! Thanks for your information!
Btw... are also one of their MTs?
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Starting April 1st? Hope they don't April Fool us.

Oh you.

Maybe us. Whatever. smile.gif
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QUOTE(4021987 @ Mar 19 2010, 10:48 PM)
DUDE!!! *smacks head*

haha

nah good on ya! they did make u wait for freakin ages right?

but its a shame as we would have been in the same batch...TCB 15 starting April 1st! im starting to think TCB Associates are abit like a fraternity that tend to stick together...but its no surprise as you would have been in for 2 months of pretty much living together with 16 others (including me) in a small shack known as the 'Learning Center' (or what i expect to be a 'brainwashing prison') up on a hill behind Jalan Semantan! wink.gif so its not too late to pull back ur rejection letter right?! haha

hope u find what u're looking for! fire away any questions u might have bout TCB if u're still uncertain....

good luck!
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hey buddie guess i found the other 1 of the 16 thats going to die with me from next week onwards =)

have any other info on the others?


Added on March 23, 2010, 10:11 ambtw so little of us only 16? i would have expected something like 30 in a batch or something lol.....

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QUOTE(underpressure @ Mar 19 2010, 05:44 PM)
I got called for CIMB for some panel interview for this upcoming friday on the 25th of March. Any one have that too?
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Wow...Congratzzz... biggrin.gif
then which batch would u be in?? gambateh!! smile.gif

Btw, this fri is 26 march ler... haha...

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Attended the final interview yesterday, received the offer today, collecting the offer letter tmr and beginning next week! I feel its so rushed, can't even consider a tad longer. Anyone else going through this also?

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QUOTE(green_green @ Mar 25 2010, 04:57 PM)
Attended the final interview yesterday, received the offer today, collecting the offer letter tmr and beginning next week! I feel its so rushed, can't even consider a tad longer. Anyone else going through this also?
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Hey...green green.. May I know when did you get your call for the last interview? Btw! Congrats!
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Hey...green green.. May I know when did you get your call for the last interview? Btw! Congrats!
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Thanx for ur wish smile.gif Well I received the call just this Monday, the 22th. If you still can't reach Ms Azimah, perhaps you can try emailing her. She usually calls back the next day. Anyway there were quite alot of ppl there for the interview so maybe not everyone could be slotted in for the day. Anyway good luck!
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QUOTE(4021987 @ Mar 19 2010, 09:48 PM)
DUDE!!! *smacks head*

haha

nah good on ya! they did make u wait for freakin ages right?

but its a shame as we would have been in the same batch...TCB 15 starting April 1st! im starting to think TCB Associates are abit like a fraternity that tend to stick together...but its no surprise as you would have been in for 2 months of pretty much living together with 16 others (including me) in a small shack known as the 'Learning Center' (or what i expect to be a 'brainwashing prison') up on a hill behind Jalan Semantan! wink.gif so its not too late to pull back ur rejection letter right?! haha

hope u find what u're looking for! fire away any questions u might have bout TCB if u're still uncertain....

good luck!
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Living together? Seriously?

Update your stories as a TCB Associate here yeah! I'm waiting to hear them... about to send in my resume.
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QUOTE(green_green @ Mar 25 2010, 04:57 PM)
Attended the final interview yesterday, received the offer today, collecting the offer letter tmr and beginning next week! I feel its so rushed, can't even consider a tad longer. Anyone else going through this also?
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i think mine is even shorter time than yours. 1st interview thursday. 2nd interview on the following tuesday morning, then on the same day afternoon received call from them, asking me to go medical checkup on wednesday and then go sign the offer letter, guess what? start working on thursday.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Mar 29 2010, 08:39 PM)
i think mine is even shorter time than yours. 1st interview thursday. 2nd interview on the following tuesday morning, then on the same day afternoon received call from them, asking me to go medical checkup on wednesday and then go sign the offer letter, guess what? start working on thursday.
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Only 2 interviews? I thought there are 4? Are you sure you're joining TCB programme?

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how d interview underpressure?? smile.gif
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Didn't go in the end, wanted to reschedule the interview but the person never called me back. For now I just accepted an offer with Standard Chartered Bank.
How things on your side? any update with HSBC? Given the choice between hsbc and cimb, which will you take?
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i think mine is even shorter time than yours. 1st interview thursday. 2nd interview on the following tuesday morning, then on the same day afternoon received call from them, asking me to go medical checkup on wednesday and then go sign the offer letter, guess what? start working on thursday.
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Hahaha thats fast! Its good though, at least won't keep u waiting. Am glad that the wait is finally over though this is just the beginning of everything that's to come...
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Only 2 interviews? I thought there are 4? Are you sure you're joining TCB programme?
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but mine is really only 2 interviews.

@green, welcome to the real world, u will face many strong competitors. rclxms.gif

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Say I'm curious, does any one how many applicants CIMB receive for its TCB programme and how many do they hire? Does any one know the ratio?
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ballpark figure is around 1k a month. i was told is approximately to a ratio of 10:1.
e.g to hire 1, they interview around 10, to interview around 10, they screen through around 100.
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I never understand how people can compare CIMB's TCB Programme and HSBC's MT programme. Both are different.

For one, CIMB's exposure will be mainly in the investment banking side while HSBC is towards the consumer banking side. Both have different exposure and standing in Malaysia.

So yeah, in a sense the only thing worth comparing is the salary. But perhaps we should really look beyond the salary which in this case is short term and look further on what our future job can do for our future life.

Hope this help to get some sense into people.
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I never understand how people can compare CIMB's TCB Programme and HSBC's MT programme. Both are different.

For one, CIMB's exposure will be mainly in the investment banking side while HSBC is towards the consumer banking side. Both have different exposure and standing in Malaysia.

So yeah, in a sense the only thing worth comparing is the salary. But perhaps we should really look beyond the salary which in this case is short term and look further on what our future job can do for our future life.

Hope this help to get some sense into people.
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Thanks, but are you working in CIMB?

Because as far as I know, CIMB is still a bank. Sure it may have an investment banking but I have heard conflicting news from a few people that you don't necessary end up in investment banking and its quite stiff to get in(to investment banking dept). So most people still end up in conventional banking. So please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now assuming that the majority don't end up in investment (unless every one is guarantee) when you take the investment banking element out of it CIMB is some what similar to HSBC. At the core of it, both are banks. Both offers saving facility,credit facilities, to consumer, commercial and corporate etc etc etc.

On top of that both bank offers interesting "future job for your future life". Both are really attractive to a fresh graduate. So the key question i'm asking is we should compare a bit more to see what sort of career development both can offer. But in order to do that we need more information. Please I don't want to sound bias towards hsbc (as i did quite a bit of research) for example, in hsbc you can join their International Manager (its very prestiges). I don't (or can't) find some thing similar to that in cimb, but maybe only internally ppl know about it. So I'm trying to find more information and see which offer a good career development and whether it fits me.

Just my humble opinion.
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very fair assessment, underpressure. it is widely known that cimb is trying to make its mark in se.asia, and as a growing bank, the opportunities are always there for those who are deserving. fair enough to say that you're more likely to end up in commercial banking in either cimb or hsbc, but in cimb, at least you know the door to ib is left a tad wider open than in hsbc just because of it's size and its deal flows.

cimb is less likely to send you all across the globe, but they do have a minute presence in hk ny and london, with a much stronger presence in sg, thai and indo. i think the possibilities of overseas exposure is still there for cimb if you are good, but it is not comparable to hsbc which can easily send you to hk or london(if you are good) just because they have a much more sizeable operation there like how cimb is in se.asia smile.gif

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Thanks, but are you working in CIMB?

Because as far as I know, CIMB is still a bank. Sure it may have an investment banking but I have heard conflicting news from a few people that you don't necessary end up in investment banking and its quite stiff to get in(to investment banking dept). So most people still end up in conventional banking. So please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now assuming that the majority don't end up in investment (unless every one is guarantee) when you take the investment banking element out of it CIMB is some what similar to HSBC. At the core of it, both are banks. Both offers saving facility,credit facilities, to consumer, commercial and corporate etc etc etc.

On top of that both bank offers interesting "future job for your future life".  Both are really attractive to a fresh graduate.  So the key question i'm asking is we should compare a bit more to see what sort of career development both can offer. But in order to do that we need more information. Please I don't want to sound bias towards hsbc (as i did quite a bit of research) for example, in hsbc you can join their International Manager (its very prestiges). I don't (or can't) find some thing similar to that in cimb, but maybe only internally ppl know about it. So I'm trying to find more information and see which offer a good career development and whether it fits me.

Just my humble opinion.
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Underpressure, I totally agree with you!

I would consider CIMB's size to be not only a disadvantage but paradoxically also a crucial career advantage. True, CIMB has grown aggressively these past few years and true there is still a wide gap between the investment and commercial sides of the company...which ofcourse the top management are attempting to bridge. Studies of M&As often state that 9/10 M&As fail due to the post-acquisition integration process! However, I feel I am ideally placed to reap the rewards of being in an emerging organization by simply being of part of a success story. Fact is there aren't many organizations out there where a fresh graduate can walk in and witness some massive organizational undertakings that end up successful. I stand the chance to get some hands-on experience working on organization-wide projects that would simply not be possible in larger organizations! As I begin my career, its certainly empowering!

Additionally, its smaller size also allows for concentration on TCB management trainees (much to my surprise). While in HSBC a management trainee is part of an established network within the company, one would not be valued from the very beginning. I feel in CIMB, TCBs are regarded relatively highly...at least from my experience thus far. My superiors surprisingly constantly wanna hear what I have to say. Even as a TCB, you can find yourself directly communicating with very senior members even if you are contributing only a small part of a larger project. I previously interned at Ernst & Young where my desk was opposite the room of a senior Partner. He walked past me everyday for 2 months and not once did he acknowledge me besides responding to the good morning I occasionally wished him whenever we made eye contact.

AND another plus point is...Nazir Razak is a real piece of work! You will realize that if you ever get the chance hear him speak. Im not saying he's god or that you'd have to bend over every time you hear his name and Im not buying into the whole HR crap bout viewing your bosses as organizational teachers or whatever. But when it comes to Nazir Razak...the man means business and he's definitely the center of inspiration in the company. This guy does believe that respect is earned not simply given by title or if you happen to have a Prime Minister bro. How many HSBC employees can say that about their CEO? Im not saying its horrible that you won't get that sorta central figure in HSBC or any other larger organization...but personally for me, in my first dip into working life, I do appreciate having such a figure head to look up to.

Oh and with regards to where you end up being part of TCB...well that is entirely dependent on your performance in the classroom training. If they think you can cut it in corporate finance, treasury or wherever in IB then thats where you will go! If you are simply suited for CB then thats where you will go...its not the end of the world just a different experience.

Besides, at this day and age....how many people spend their entire career with one firm? ppl inherently move around...but as a starting point for one to figure out what they really want in their career...CIMB is just as good as anywhere else I think!

Having said that...if you get into HSBC's international programs then bloody good on ya! you instantly get the chance to see the world which naturally CIMB cant offer! Simply can't argue against the rewards of working in a large organization that provides you with vast array of career paths and when you leave you'd still have HSBC stamped on you CV!

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Well said ckwei! I don't deny CIMB investment banking dept is highly lucrative. If I was given the choice, I would say hands down CIMB if I want to do investment banking; I would go for HSBC, if I want do conventional banking. However I am curious whether others share similar thought or would they still pick CIMB if they know they aren't selected for investment banking.

As for going oversea exposure, sadly I don't know or hear any stories to make an informed decision. I only know one person who went oversea. But he was quite annoyed with CIMB as CIMB didnt send him anywhere. So in the end he did get to go oversea, but for a different bank in SG. But this is just one person, and 1 person is "insufficient data" to make a good judgement (at least for me).


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Well put 4021987 thumbup.gif ! This is exactly the reply I'm trying to get! You make my day, 4021987!!!

Let me summarise (so I don't get any one wrong) :
1. Working in an environment that is expanding rapidly
2. Opinions are highly appreciated
3. Nazir is a great leader!

I strong agree with you on all 3!
Every time I ask what so great about cimb, the reply i get is SALARY, INVESTMENT BANK, but you truly given me and everyone an insider perceptive that truly make cimb TCB a true power player and why its the leading universal bank in SE Asia.

Now I want to apply for CIMB!!!

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CIMB seems to be on a huge recruitment drive in London. Wanna get graduates who are graduating this year, according to the HR lady i was chatting to, she said they interviewed god knows how many the past few days and made 50 offers but not sure how many of them will be coming back to take the offer la. So might be good news in a sense for those already back home i guess.

BTW seeing he interview to offer process in KL i think its a bit unfair to those back home in the sense of the graduates here get their CV's screened then come in for an interview and fill out heir form + 2 essays less than 150 words each. Due to time constraints i agree that this is probably the next best alternative la but still kinda unfair to those back home who go through assessments, presentations etc etc. One of the benefits having an overseas degree i guess
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CIMB seems to be on a huge recruitment drive in London. Wanna get graduates who are graduating this year, according to the HR lady i was chatting to, she said they interviewed god knows how many the past few days and made 50 offers but not sure how many of them will be coming back to take the offer la. So might be good news in a sense for those already back home i guess.

BTW seeing he interview to offer process in KL i think its a bit unfair to those back home in the sense of the graduates here get their CV's screened then come in for an interview and fill out heir form + 2 essays less than 150 words each. Due to time constraints i agree that this is probably the next best alternative la but still kinda unfair to those back home who go through assessments, presentations etc etc. One of the benefits having an overseas degree i guess
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That is life.

Had a friend who constantly compare me to him because we both graduated from Nottingham Business school. Except his is locally and mine is Nottingham. His recruitment drive in his university is just plain pathetic, he doesn't get the big names and when asked why not, the firms just reply saying, " We already sponsor Nottingham, so we don't intend to sponsor Nottingham Malaysia"
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QUOTE(underpressure @ Mar 31 2010, 01:19 AM)
Well said ckwei! I don't deny CIMB investment banking dept is highly lucrative. If I was given the choice, I would say hands down CIMB if I want to do investment banking; I would go for HSBC, if I want do conventional banking. However I am curious whether others share similar thought or would they still pick CIMB if they know they aren't selected for investment banking.

As for going oversea exposure, sadly I don't know or hear any stories to make an informed decision. I only know one person who went oversea. But he was quite annoyed with CIMB as CIMB didnt send him anywhere. So in the end he did get to go oversea, but for a different bank in SG. But this is just one person, and 1 person is "insufficient data" to make a good judgement (at least for me).


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Well put 4021987 thumbup.gif ! This is exactly the reply I'm trying to get! You make my day, 4021987!!!

Let me summarise (so I don't get any one wrong) :
1. Working in an environment that is expanding rapidly
2. Opinions are highly appreciated
3. Nazir is a great leader!

I strong agree with you on all 3!
Every time I ask what so great about cimb, the reply i get is SALARY, INVESTMENT BANK, but you truly given me and everyone an insider perceptive that truly make cimb TCB a true power player and why its the leading universal bank in SE Asia.

Now I want to apply for CIMB!!!
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cheers!

go ahead and apply...if you need any pointers you know where to find me wink.gif

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QUOTE(underpressure @ Mar 30 2010, 11:25 PM)
Thanks, but are you working in CIMB?

Because as far as I know, CIMB is still a bank. Sure it may have an investment banking but I have heard conflicting news from a few people that you don't necessary end up in investment banking and its quite stiff to get in(to investment banking dept). So most people still end up in conventional banking. So please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now assuming that the majority don't end up in investment (unless every one is guarantee) when you take the investment banking element out of it CIMB is some what similar to HSBC. At the core of it, both are banks. Both offers saving facility,credit facilities, to consumer, commercial and corporate etc etc etc.

On top of that both bank offers interesting "future job for your future life".  Both are really attractive to a fresh graduate.  So the key question i'm asking is we should compare a bit more to see what sort of career development both can offer. But in order to do that we need more information. Please I don't want to sound bias towards hsbc (as i did quite a bit of research) for example, in hsbc you can join their International Manager (its very prestiges). I don't (or can't) find some thing similar to that in cimb, but maybe only internally ppl know about it. So I'm trying to find more information and see which offer a good career development and whether it fits me.

Just my humble opinion.
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I think ckwei has explained more than enough. And like 4021987 said, you will be assessed in the classroom. So yeah, perform then the door to IB will be wider for you. If not, then I guess CB is more suited for you.

But as far as where the future in the organization is for you, I sincerely believe that it is up to you to decide. The ball is in your court. Without doubt, one can be successful anywhere, but slack off and off you go. But in joining any organization, you must be able to see a future for yourself in it. If not, then there is no point joining it. CIMB is one of the fastest growing bank in SEA, if not the fastest. And it is it's successful growth story that makes people want to go in. Be part of history, and be part of the legacy.

As far as information goes, most ppl here can help you out. There's no need to know if I am in CIMB or not. smile.gif
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QUOTE(KillMeNow @ Mar 31 2010, 03:03 AM)
CIMB seems to be on a huge recruitment drive in London. Wanna get graduates who are graduating this year, according to the HR lady i was chatting to, she said they interviewed god knows how many the past few days and made 50 offers but not sure how many of them will be coming back to take the offer la. So might be good news in a sense for those already back home i guess.

BTW seeing he interview to offer process in KL i think its a bit unfair to those back home in the sense of the graduates here get their CV's screened then come in for an interview and fill out heir form + 2 essays less than 150 words each. Due to time constraints i agree that this is probably the next best alternative la but still kinda unfair to those back home who go through assessments, presentations etc etc. One of the benefits having an overseas degree i guess
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Hmm I thought the offers given out during UKEC fair are just conditional ones? Isn't it? I remember Pn Hamidah mentioned in the presentation on Sunday saying that offers are just conditional and people who get it still need to undergo presentations etc when they return? smile.gif
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QUOTE(underpressure @ Mar 29 2010, 09:41 PM)
Didn't go in the end, wanted to reschedule the interview but the person never called me back. For now I just accepted an offer with Standard Chartered Bank.
How things on your side? any update with HSBC? Given the choice between hsbc and cimb, which will you take?
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Oic... Standard chart very good oso ler!! what post they offer u?? management trainee too?? how much salary they offered u?? mind to share???

Hsbc dint call me anymore dy.. lol.. cant manage to get in.. haha... but went for uob interview... hehe biggrin.gif

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I went to the interview in London and has just received the offer from CIMB, conditional on passing the assessments once I'm back in Malaysia.

They give me 3 weeks to sign the contract....hmmmmm.....
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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Apr 1 2010, 11:54 PM)
I went to the interview in London and has just received the offer from CIMB, conditional on passing the assessments once I'm back in Malaysia.

They give me 3 weeks to sign the contract....hmmmmm.....
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Hi verticalforce,

when do you receive the offer? on 1st April? by ordinary mail or email? who is the one replying to u? Pn Hamidah?

sorry to ask consecutive questions, i'm waiting for their reply as well..

thanks for sharing.. smile.gif
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my first time here. was just googling up TCB. I got an offer too. And yeah, the letter was signed by Hamidah.

And about overseas opportunities, it's mentioned on its website that there is an optional overseas placement programme after the one year is up? I'm not sure what sort of requirements are involved but it sounds interesting. Although, judging from what others are saying, it seems like they don't really send u overseas?

Either way, its a very good opportunity

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I just got a call for my final interview with Pn. Hamidah in the end of the month. May I know how is it like?
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how much starting salary at cimb?
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how much starting salary at cimb?
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I just got a call for my final interview with Pn. Hamidah in the end of the month. May I know how is it like?
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Congrats smile.gif

Maybe its different for others but for me it was quite a casual get-to-know-you session. I handed her the application form i filled up prior to the meeting and from there she came up with questions based on what i wrote. It's good if you present yourself as enthusiastic and to some extent, intelligent.

Maybe this will help:

She asked about my family and the activities I did in school and uni. She asked about my hobbies - i placed basketball and travelling as my hobbies, which is good because it demonstrates teamwork and adaptability, independence. It's good to mention things like that rather than 'watching tv' and 'sleeping.'

She also asked me to tell her what i know about CIMB. I momentarily freaked out. Honestly, I didn't know anything! I came 100% unprepared.
I just mentioned that it's growing and has a very strong presence in Asia and that I saw it as the next HSBC, top bank in the world, which is why i see CIMB as a v good opportunity for me. And then she said 'in fact, it'll b bigger than HSBC' in a candid manner. Then we laughed. (What I'm trying to say is...she is also human so don't be intimidated, be yourself)

Then she asked why I want to work in the financial services sector. I mentioned that I gained an interest through past work experience (internships) and that I would love to be able to learn more. Then from there I took advantage of relating to her the sort of work I did in the past.

And of course, my least favourite question....where do you see yourself in the future? I can never answer that! So I said 'I don't know where I will be in the future, one can never pinpoint these sort of things because things rarely come out as planned. The best thing anyone can do is to contribute to society and I intend to do that - at what scale, I don't know. A large scale I hope. All i know is i wanna do well and do good'
I think that came out well, she said 'good good' So yeah, you can quote me on this if you don't know where u see urself in the future. She'll probably wonder why she is getting a pang of deja vu though. haha

Owh don't forget - firm (but not too firm tongue.gif) handshake at the end!

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Thanks for the feedback. So it's pretty much like the 1st and 3rd interviews right? I never thought the 3rd assessment involves an interview as well. Luckily I was prepared for it.

So did you got the job at the end?
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Thanks for the feedback. So it's pretty much like the 1st and 3rd interviews right? I never thought the 3rd assessment involves an interview as well. Luckily I was prepared for it.

So did you got the job at the end?
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yes i did.
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yes i did.
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RM3K starting salary for a MT is quite high

very good start for a freshies
maybe after 10years can get more than 10K
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Anyone knows what is the career progression for a CIMB MT? After the 1 year of training and rotation, they'll then be placed in a permanent division right? Any chance of promotion within 3 years?
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Anyone knows what is the career progression for a CIMB MT? After the 1 year of training and rotation, they'll then be placed in a permanent division right? Any chance of promotion within 3 years?
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What do you mean?
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hello, if fresh graduate with bacelor business admin, enter to CIMB . what is the minimun pay ? how is the job ?
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just passed my first interview and according to Pn. Azimah for a masters holder it would be RM3200.

Curious to know how they asess the IQ test since its quite impossible to finish all question in 15 minutes.

read through the forum some said getting more correct answers was more important than attempting to complete all the questions. any views?
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just make sure you have enough sleep the night before and wake up fresh. you can't really prepare for it, you just need speed and accuracy, can't exactly practise for it smile.gif

3k for bach, 3.2k for masters or any professional accreditation like ACCA.
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Hi,

did anyone recently apply for the TCB via email?

I receive an error message:

"Error delivering to Careers/MY/CORP; Router: Database disk quota exceeded"

Seems that they are out of space. My email is less than 100kb :/


+++ Solved. Their inbox can receive emails now. +++

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Ok i aint going to side anybody but something kinda ticked me, the fact that your last sentence says 'If any people feel that my information is really wrong, just ignore it.', is kinda irresponsible. Before you whack back at me i would just like to clarify that i aint saying that you are wrong about your info, but i certainly do believe that whatever you have pointed out or are going to be pointed out needs to be supported by facts. This is due to the fact that you can actually REALLY misled someone that might actually be interested in the industry but might face certain doubts becuase of what you have just said. This is especially so when someone i know has just called up directly to me asking about details once she read your forum (lol.... i actually told her to check it out) and it got her even more confused.

Hence i would side with AS, and question whether are you actually in the programme? Cause if not you are certainly causing certain amounts of misguidance.

Hope you are not offended, i just want to make sure the right amount of information is being passed on to our potential buddies in the future

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Hi,

Anyone can share how is the environment working in IT with CIMB?
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hi i am new here...i wan 2 noe how many stages of interview tat v nid 2 go through?
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CIMB investment bank... mean u got to sell some investment product ? blush.gif
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hello everybody,
I've been skimming through the thread if there's any tips relating to my upcoming rounds.
I assumed that i passed the aptitude test after getting a call from them scheduling a business presentation this coming Wednesday and the topic will be given on Monday.

1) any insightful tips regarding 3rd round?
2) what's the biggest difference between 1st and 4th round? i.e. any generic question?

thanks.
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john : i think there's another thread about cimb around which contains some questions about working in IT, IIRC.

kallias : google! you'll be surprised at the usefulness of google re the presentation tongue.gif 1st u talk to the working level, mostly re your study/work experience. 4th u talk to the HR director, mostly re your family.
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HELLOOO everyone who has gone thru the selection process of the Complete Programme before........ would you mind describing the IQ test (2nd stage) consisting of 300 questions to be completed within an hour? is a numerical, reasoning, logical, etc test? Thanks in advance! smile.gif
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scribdutd: Go through the whole thread, you will find the information you need.
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will CIMB reject me since my cgpa is only 2.83?
please share guys, thanks....
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depends.. for the management trainee they will not even review ur resume.. but for other post maybe?
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you can email your resume in, which should have stuff that are good enuff to catch their notice(exceptional work/interning exp, co-curricular activities or social work). don't attach the transcript. if you're lucky, you'll get a call for an interview, which is when they'll want to review your transcript. you cant escape the <3.3 gpa, but then if you sell yourself well enough, you still have a chance.

if you're lucky enough that they don't ask about your cgpa over the phone.
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Hi,

How long does usually take to get a respond from CIMB? I sent my application on the 3rd of July. No respond so far. Rejected?
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Hi Amanda,
i m also interest in this job..can u tell me how to apply this position??Is it still available???
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Management Trainee??I think it might have many types of exam before u are employed rite??Gd luck~~~
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its not many exams. its many stages of interviews. If I recall correctly back in 2009, the interview is in 4 stages for CIMB MT.
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Hey guys,

I was called to go for interview in a few weeks time by Ms Azimah, what do you guys think in terms of prospect investment banking dept and treasury for a CFA candidate. And the assistant manager you guys been talking about, any idea if they pay well? smile.gif
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QUOTE(tesla34 @ Sep 7 2010, 05:23 PM)
Hey guys,

I was called to go for interview in a few weeks time by Ms Azimah, what do you guys think in terms of prospect investment banking dept and treasury for a CFA candidate. And the assistant manager you guys been talking about, any idea if they pay well? smile.gif
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QUOTE(gloomberg @ Sep 8 2010, 08:52 PM)
CIMB is well-known to have given unrealistic bonuses, some of which can be as high as 13 months. No joke, source from insiders. But be prepared to have no life la.
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hurmmmnn.. not as high as Bank Rakyat 16 month and OSK 1.1 Million (my fren got it).. but still good, comparing to other works which have no bonuses at all...


__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

i got into the third round n still waiting for a reply on the date for the fourth stage..

the first round was more to a formality and skimming on the candidates that can suit the CIMB culture best.. the question i got can be generally sum up as follows:

1) general knowledge on the current business scene -(I was asked on the past month business news updates)
2) reason for me to change my study background
3) enthusiasm hint question.
4) the high ranking people?
5) achievement?
6) what is CIMB?

the writing part i believe is updated for each interviews.. u guys need to read a lot and have a strong mind and knowledge on the current news affecting BANK! of course!

The second interview was a psychometric test or aptitude test (google it)... u guys need to do LOTS of math exercise for this one and do look for free samples in the net. Amazingly, the questions are almost similar...

The third interview is a presentation.. u will be given a topic 2 days before..
the only advice for this stage: BE URSELF AND KNOW YOUR PRESENTATION!
and, pause before u answer any question.. it shows you are careful and tactful (i got a compliment for this)...




Wish me all the best fellas, and all the best to you guys out there,,,
NO SHORT CUTS TO BIG MONEY!

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QUOTE(hulkcame @ Sep 12 2010, 01:07 AM)
hurmmmnn.. not as high as Bank Rakyat 16 month and OSK 1.1 Million (my fren got it).. but still good, comparing to other works which have no bonuses at all...
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

i got into the third round n still waiting for a reply on the date for the fourth stage..

the first round was more to a formality and skimming on the candidates that can suit the CIMB culture best.. the question i got can be generally sum up as follows:

1) general knowledge on the current business scene -(I was asked on the past month business news updates)
2) reason for me to change my study background
3) enthusiasm hint question.
4) the high ranking people?
5) achievement?
6) what is CIMB?

the writing part i believe is updated for each interviews.. u guys need to read a lot and have a strong mind and knowledge on the current news affecting BANK! of course!

The second interview was a psychometric test or aptitude test (google it)... u guys need to do LOTS of math exercise for this one and do look for free samples in the net. Amazingly, the questions are almost similar...

The third interview is a presentation.. u will be given a topic 2 days before..
the only advice for this stage: BE URSELF AND KNOW YOUR PRESENTATION!
and, pause before u answer any question.. it shows you are careful and tactful (i got a compliment for this)...
Wish me all the best fellas, and all the best to you guys out there,,,
NO SHORT CUTS TO BIG MONEY!
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Man, 1.1 Million. I must salute that guy if that is real.
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LOL .. I highly doubt the bonus is 1.1 million.. But hey if you say its true.. so it is?

Auditing reveleaed that CEO's in malaysia earn roughly 30-75k per month depending on company size and so far the highest bonus I've seen for CEO's is at 9 months. Which does not bring them even close to your 1.1million bonus.

Unless the person is the CEO of OSK or CFO or at the very least head of treasury and they had a crazy ass year mulling in profits (please take note OSK is VERY VERY CONSERVATIVE when it comes to risk), i highly doubt your statement
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Just a heads up to those who're planning to get into this programme, none of the trainees of the previous batch made the "Investment Bank" cut. All were sent to Consumer Banking.
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Sep 12 2010, 07:07 PM)
Just a heads up to those who're planning to get into this programme, none of the trainees of the previous batch made the "Investment Bank" cut. All were sent to Consumer Banking.
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Highly agree on this, because this is what my seniors have told me. Fortunately, he got into a research position in CIMB Investment Bank area. Yes, and that is after one year of super hard work competing with the other candidates.
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Competition must be getting really tough for none to make it into the investment banking field.

I don't think its fair for CIMB to offer MT for investment banking when it has no intention to any one in.

To everyone that is applying :
Would you still consider CIMB MT if you know that their IB isn't taking one in?

Prior from starting, a friend opt out of the MT programme as he manage to get a direct hire from the IB side.
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I applied bout 3years back. they are very strict bout the cgpa. well, although didnt get d job, i stil feel d job im doin now is equally challenging n interestin. so no regrets smile.gif
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Sep 18 2010, 05:01 AM)
I applied bout 3years back. they are very strict bout the cgpa. well, although didnt get d job, i stil feel d job im doin now is equally challenging n interestin. so no regrets smile.gif
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i applied it about 2 months back with cgpa 3.55 n still didnt get any reply from them wacko.gif
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Aiyo... u local or foreign? they look into that also. and dun kena con by them la, u wont get into IB that easily although u got into the programme. There MUST be a vacancy in the IB first, then ONLY u can get there, but only after intense competition from other candidates who have the same aim to get there.
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so they look at cgpa disregarding your uni?
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Well, the last time i was there, the HR accidentally mentioned sth regarding that... which is they usually take foreign grads. If u didn't notice, their recruitment spanned as far as UK. They had a career fair there. So do u think they would still wanna consider local when they are spending thousands in HR to recruit foreign grad? U decide.
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so much misinformation here.

1. they take in both local and foreign grads
2. there will be a 2 month classroom period where you are under evaluation, to see whether you are more suited towards ib or cb, and will be set after classroom ends. What i'm hearing now though is that new hires are told at the end of their 4th interview on which side they will be sent to.
3. IB has a lot of vacancies.
4. the program is called the TCB, and has a universal banking focus. at no point in time was it advertised as an investment banking program so the the likelihood of ending up in cb is as high as that of getting into ib.
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QUOTE(ckwei @ Sep 18 2010, 07:26 PM)
so much misinformation here.

1. they take in both local and foreign grads
2. there will be a 2 month classroom period where you are under evaluation, to see whether you are more suited towards ib or cb, and will be set after classroom ends. What i'm hearing now though is that new hires are told at the end of their 4th interview on which side they will be sent to.
3. IB has a lot of vacancies.
4. the program is called the TCB, and has a universal banking focus. at no point in time was it advertised as an investment banking program so the the likelihood of ending up in cb is as high as that of getting into ib.
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1.I didn't say the ONLY take foreign grad. But the ratio for foreign is definitely higher based on simple rationale.
2.Yes, there are 2 months classroom period, which is why u have to do your best. Fail, and u will not be sent to the desired vacant position.
3.I seriously don't think so. 1 intake = 15 candidate. 1 year = 4 intake. 1 year = 60 new employee. Yea, we'll see about that.
4.Obviously, but the main purpose people joining CIMB is their IB. Most of them are. Don't tell me they are not.

Unless u r the CIMB HR, we wouldn't know. And rumour has it that they might be increasing to RM4k! I repeat, RUMOUR.
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1. read through my post again. i was just pointing out to the others who might be taking cue from reading your posts here and might be discouraged from signing up because of your implication. i was told by their hr that they are trying to go regional now, and they used to hire more foreign grads but now they are trying to take in more local grads and regional candidates.

2. check your facts. there is no requirements to pass all the 5 papers to join the ib.

3. not all 15 will be placed will make the cut for ib each batch, and out of 60, it's more likely that say half of them are placed into ib instead of all of them. for a bank with 2-3k employees on the ib side, that represents 1-1.5% of the total workforce.

4. of course everyone wants to join the program to gain access to the ib side, but the prog specifically mentions that it has a universal banking focus, and that is exactly how cimb is trying to portray itself. again, my mention of this is to help new applicants manage their expectations.

and finally, rumor is that they have increased it to 4k, but that rumor has been around since more than a year ago smile.gif

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1. read through my post again. i was just pointing out to the others who might be taking cue from reading your posts here and might be discouraged from signing up because of  your implication. i was told by their hr that they are trying to go regional now, and they used to hire more foreign grads but now they are trying to take in more local grads and regional candidates.

2. check your facts. there is no requirements to pass all the 5 papers to join the ib.

3. not all 15 will be placed will make the cut for ib each batch, and out of 60, it's more likely that say half of them are placed into ib instead of all of them. for a bank with 2-3k employees on the ib side, that represents 1-1.5% of the total workforce.

4. of course everyone wants to join the program to gain access to the ib side, but the prog specifically mentions that it has a universal banking focus, and that is exactly how cimb is trying to portray itself. again, my mention of this is to help new applicants manage their expectations.

and finally, rumor is that they have increased it to 4k, but that rumor has been around since more than a year ago smile.gif
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whether or not i am in the program is irrelevant. but i do have reliable sources, and i know quite a few people who are in the program.
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QUOTE(ckwei @ Sep 19 2010, 01:04 PM)
whether or not i am in the program is irrelevant. but i do have reliable sources, and i know quite a few people who are in the program.
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Just want to seek some opinions -

1-In the CIMB website it states that fresh graduate with less than 1 year working experience, does it take into account part-time jobs like insurance and such? Hopefully not biggrin.gif

2-Are they really strict regarding the 3.3 CGPA? If 3.2 or 3.1 like that they won't make any exceptions?

Feedback is duly appreciated.
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Now now, let's all make love not war?

In any case, I have to disagree a little bout gloomberg. While it is not your fault that people dont take the initiative upon reading your postings, be kind to all and be responsible in your postings. Who knows one hella smart fella really didn't apply after reading your posts? Or he bunuh diri? biggrin.gif

Anyway, I do know that there are local university grads who have made it into the TCB programme. I know a few of them personally. I think it is fair to say that while HR might be more inclined towards hiring overseas grad (which HR don't nowadays?), I sincerely believe that if the local grad is good, then why won't HR take him in? The question now is, are you good enough to compete with the overseas grad? If you lack in one thing (for example oratory skills), then make it up in another. Put in extra effort to show that you are worth it.

Secondly, I did some research on CIMB's website, and this is what I found out:

"Introduced in 2003, The Complete Banker TM Programme has evolved into a comprehensive 12-month management trainee programme that covers all aspects of universal banking, both conventional and islamic, ranging from consumer banking, investment banking to asset management. The Programme is offered to qualified fresh graduates, or those with less than one year of working experience, from both local and foreign universities.

The programme offers an excellent opportunity for you to:
- Gain universal banking exposure in both investment and consumer banking;
- Learn and grow alongside some of the best minds in the financial services industry;
- Build a solid career foundation with the region's most lauded universal bank; and
- Be part of CIMB's growth story. "

I think in no way that the programme assures you an IB position, or a place in IB. So I guess it is safe to say that it was never promised that the programme offers a guaranteed place in IB. But of course, if you are good enough, then why not?

As for the 4K salary, WTH??? I might just quit and join this programme. tongue.gif


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A cowardly person shouldn't join this programme in the first place. It's for those who are faint-hearted. I know that they do take in locals, but obviously there a little bias towards foreign grads...
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Some people do not understand bias.
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QUOTE(ArSe-SeNG @ Sep 21 2010, 01:39 PM)
Now now, let's all make love not war?

In any case, I have to disagree a little bout gloomberg. While it is not your fault that people dont take the initiative upon reading your postings, be kind to all and be responsible in your postings. Who knows one hella smart fella really didn't apply after reading your posts? Or he bunuh diri? biggrin.gif

Anyway, I do know that there are local university grads who have made it into the TCB programme. I know a few of them personally. I think it is fair to say that while HR might be more inclined towards hiring overseas grad (which HR don't nowadays?), I sincerely believe that if the local grad is good, then why won't HR take him in? The question now is, are you good enough to compete with the overseas grad? If you lack in one thing (for example oratory skills), then make it up in another. Put in extra effort to show that you are worth it.

Secondly, I did some research on CIMB's website, and this is what I found out:

"Introduced in 2003, The Complete Banker TM Programme has evolved into a comprehensive 12-month management trainee programme that covers all aspects of universal banking, both conventional and islamic, ranging from consumer banking, investment banking to asset management.  The Programme is offered to qualified fresh graduates, or those with less than one year of working experience, from both local and foreign universities.

The programme offers an excellent opportunity for you to:
- Gain universal banking exposure in both investment and consumer banking;
- Learn and grow alongside some of the best minds in the financial services industry; 
- Build a solid career foundation with the region's most lauded universal bank; and 
- Be part of CIMB's growth story. "

I think in no way that the programme assures you an IB position, or a place in IB. So I guess it is safe to say that it was never promised that the programme offers a guaranteed place in IB. But of course, if you are good enough, then why not?

As for the 4K salary, WTH??? I might just quit and join this programme. tongue.gif
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i dont think sarcasm is appreciated in here. well maybe a little, if you have something constructive to contribute.

the truth is that people think there is a bias in HRs favoring foreign grads, which might seem that it is true based on the hiring statistics. but the fact is actually, the majority of local grads just can't put together a decent cv/cover letter and can't carry themselves well. i was told by cimb's hr that they do not actually favor foreign grads and that they try to hire as many local grads as possible. however, their experience is that the majority of them can't even converse in english, and mind you, these include a whole lot of cgpa 4.0 people. these people won't even get a first stage interview after they get screened through the phone, or for those who are lucky they make it to the first stage but no further.

if they do have a foreign bias, they won't hire grads of local chapters of foreign unis or people from external or 3+0 programs when they can easily get all their hires from unis abroad. easily. cimb is a very different animal from your stereotypical local firm who kowtows to foreign grads (which are a dime a dozen nowadays given the abundance of cap palang unis overseas, some which rank even lower than the ones onshore), and their hr may not be perfect. they do however, give anyone who deserves a chance one.
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LOL. argue as much as u want. =)
And no, I'm not in the programme, and I did not claim to be in the programme. I'm just giving out FACTS(although it might be somehow inaccurate) based on my senior who had been working there as an MT. I'm not sure what is wrong with the people nowadays, true that there are flaws in my STATEMENTS, but I am not INSISTING that your ARGUMENT is WRONG. Fine?

What sarcasm? You can't take a little of that? Felt annoyed? Ah, and then you'll say that you're not, and that I must some sense of professionalism when discussing here in the forum. We're here to discuss, not to prove who is wrong or right. If you argue that CIMB HR works that way, then so be it.

And "ckwei", don't speak as if I have no knowledge of u've written. I DO know that there are a lot of SMART local students(come on dude, I'm young and have something which is called "friends"?) True that a number of local students are not able to write proper resumes or converse in fluent English, but I do admit they are good, technically.

Interview skills? Just be yourself. I never lie during an interview, which sometimes draws an awkward look from the interviewers, but nevertheless made the cut. I don't impress, but I confess. HAHA!

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QUOTE(bkfeng89 @ Sep 20 2010, 04:00 PM)
Just want to seek some opinions -

1-In the CIMB website it states that fresh graduate with less than 1 year working experience, does it take into account part-time jobs like insurance and such? Hopefully not biggrin.gif

2-Are they really strict regarding the 3.3 CGPA? If 3.2 or 3.1 like that they won't make any exceptions?

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dah nama pn mt, of coz la fresh grads, the part time u did during ur study will not be taken into account
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dats the rules ony, i think its up to their consideration
same thing with getting scholarship
straight a's don't mean u get one
it depends on ur luck
do pray a lot ya! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(donnie.brasco @ Sep 22 2010, 02:13 PM)
dah nama pn mt, of coz la fresh grads, the part time u did during ur study will not be taken into account
smile.gif

dats the rules ony, i think its up to their consideration
same thing with getting scholarship
straight a's don't mean u get one
it depends on ur luck
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TQ banyak bro smile.gif
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well,
i'm just back from UK completed my studies under PETRONAS LOAN. Now, I'm considering to switch my field from Engineering to Banking. But don't really have a good view of it as I never think of getting into banking. Now only I'm considering it as I'm trying to widening my opportunities.

Dont really mind jumping any field as long it has a good prospect to build my future.
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Hi all,
where to apply this position?
i already look thru CIMB website but couldnt find it
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QUOTE(asdiqa @ Sep 23 2010, 06:38 AM)
well,
i'm just back from UK completed my studies under PETRONAS LOAN. Now, I'm considering to switch my field from Engineering to Banking. But don't really have a good view of it as I never think of getting into banking. Now only I'm considering it as I'm trying to widening my opportunities.

Dont really mind jumping any field as long it has a good prospect to build my future.
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its totally different field bro
y u dont want to continue engineering-ing with petronas?
the money is good what
more benefits with petronas
u get opportunity to go middle east
haha
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It's still RM3k. RM3.2k is for masters grad. And I really don't think it's gonna be revised any soon.
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LOL .. I highly doubt the bonus is 1.1 million.. But hey if you say its true.. so it is?

Auditing reveleaed that CEO's in malaysia earn roughly 30-75k per month depending on company size and so far the highest bonus I've seen for CEO's is at 9 months. Which does not bring them even close to your 1.1million bonus.

Unless the person is the CEO of OSK or CFO or at the very least head of treasury and they had a crazy ass year mulling in profits (please take note OSK is VERY VERY CONSERVATIVE when it comes to risk), i highly doubt your statement
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no use in twisting my tongue my fren... hehehe..

head of department in my bank earns more than 70k per month (ive seen the pay slip (accidently?.. heee))... mind you its not the CEO.
media is conservative my fren.


as i know, his department do well in one of the investment raking in big profits... thus, the bonus is only for his department. drool.gif

anyone here made it to CIMB TCB?
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QUOTE(donnie.brasco @ Sep 23 2010, 06:01 PM)
its totally different field bro
y u dont want to continue engineering-ing with petronas?
the money is good what
more benefits with petronas
u get opportunity to go middle east
haha
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i'm in the same position as donnie rclxms.gif

want to venture into different field.

care to share what management trainee does in cimb? if they interveiw me, why change into investment bank, wht should i say sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hulkcame @ Sep 25 2010, 01:20 PM)
no use in twisting my tongue my fren... hehehe..

head of department in my bank earns more than 70k per month (ive seen the pay slip (accidently?.. heee))... mind you its not the CEO.
media is conservative my fren.
as i know, his department do well in one of the investment raking in big profits... thus, the bonus is only for his department.  drool.gif

anyone here made it to CIMB TCB?
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Sep 25 2010, 06:54 PM)
i'm in the same position as donnie  rclxms.gif

want to venture into different field.

care to share what management trainee does in cimb? if they interveiw me,  why change into investment bank, wht should i say  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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The problem with graduates nowadays is they don't know what they want, even though they think they do. Of course who wouldn't want a better pay job, or a good job that could kick start one's career better than the average joes? That's why there're so many MT programs out there. In a banking related MT program, you're basically already in the financial industry, unlike programs like BAT, F&N, P&G or even Sunway's SMART program where things that you learn can still be interchangeble between industries.

I'm an engineering graduate and I chose banking because I dislike the engineering industry and I prefer a job that requires a mixture of technical and social skills. Ultimately I would want to be in IB but even if god forbid I don't, CIMB MT's is a very good program that offers trainees a taste of IB, CB, supports division and most importantly the classroom training. Down side is you won't be specialized in any dept. in that one year.

I was questioned for over an hour on my 3rd assessment on why I chose banking instead of engineering. There is bound to be questions on that if you're not a finance/business graduate. Main question is why banking? why CIMB? How much do you know about banking? Ask yourself these questions first before applying for the TCB program.
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Sep 26 2010, 02:47 PM)
Yes I'm one, like many of the posters here as well.
The problem with graduates nowadays is they don't know what they want, even though they think they do. Of course who wouldn't want a better pay job, or a good job that could kick start one's career better than the average joes? That's why there're so many MT programs out there. In a banking related MT program, you're basically already in the financial industry, unlike programs like BAT, F&N, P&G or even Sunway's SMART program where things that you learn can still be interchangeble between industries.

I'm an engineering graduate and I chose banking because I dislike the engineering industry and I prefer a job that requires a mixture of technical and social skills. Ultimately I would want to be in IB but even if god forbid I don't, CIMB MT's is a very good program that offers trainees a taste of IB, CB, supports division and most importantly the classroom training. Down side is you won't be specialized in any dept. in that one year.

I was questioned for over an hour on my 3rd assessment on why I chose banking instead of engineering. There is bound to be questions on that if you're not a finance/business graduate. Main question is why banking? why CIMB? How much do you know about banking? Ask yourself these questions first before applying for the TCB program.
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aeronautical engineering?
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aeronautical engineering?
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Sep 29 2010, 10:16 PM)
What makes you think that? laugh.gif
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Hi guys, I've been lurking around this thread for a while now. Truth be told I'm doing my pre-interview research for my upcoming first round next week, and I feel like I should say something.

Even if you don't have a phenomenal CGPA, just apply. I applied the week before and I just received a call yesterday (or today? depends on how you look at it) afternoon. The fact that the person on the phone asked whether I did a twinning program made me question why they asked that, maybe they do have a bias towards foreign grads? I don't know.

But I do know I sent in my cover letter and resume with my <65 WAM (that's below 2.6 CGPA!) In fact, I stated outright that that was my weak point. On the other hand, I also had many other things to offer; I worked my way through university through several backbreaking jobs, completed an internship with one of the accounting big 4's and held significant posts in clubs.

The point is, if the HR is worth a damn salt, they will be looking at the person as a whole. Perfect CGPA is nice, but by itself it shows a dull person. Make your application colourful, but don't exaggerate, at least not too much. If you can't back it up, leave it off the paper. If your CGPA isn't up to par, state it outright; it's an outright requirement, leaving it off shows you're not paying attention. If they think you can be molded the way they want, they'll call you. If they don't, then there's no harm in trying right?

As for me, I'm really excited that I've been called for an interview, since I believe I'll perform really well face to face rather than through papers. Does that mean I'll get the job? Hell if I know. But at least I've gotten through the first hurdle.

Just apply.
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What's ur intention of joining CIMB Mgmt Trainee in the first place?
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It's the career path that I'm looking forward to. My degree is in Accounting and my main interest is in law, but I have no desire to practice and so decided to study it later down the road, perhaps with a JD/MBA. And I just came to the realisation that I wanted to do banking during my last year in uni, and overseas I could've gotten into a graduate program with one of the big 4's with a credit average, hence the score.

And I came to the same conclusion some poster before me did (sorry can't remember the name, can't be bothered to backtrack.) CIMB is one of if not the leading finance institution in SEA, and it's still growing at an amazing pace. I just figured if I wanted to grow professionally, CIMB is a great place to start. Be part of the success story, so they say.

Perhaps I should also add that I'm not really interested in the consumer banking side, part of the reason I didn't apply for HSBC's program, though it has a better traveling option (something I really look forward to in a career.) But if somehow I'm stuck in a department I'm not passionate about, well... At least I'd have received a comprehensive training in banking, can always look for a position I want elsewhere afterwards.
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In short, you wanted to get into IB?
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Either that or asset management, pretty much.

Yay long posts!
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Good luck then. Because those who made it last round all went to commercial banking, as they ALL underperformed during the 2 months of intensive training and exams.
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Thanks. I suppose it's for the better then. If I do get through, it'll mean more openings in IB should I do well in the first two months.
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Opening is subject to vacancy. The interview process is a cinch, if you do ok, should be no problem. The real deal is during the first 2 months. HR would monitor from day 1 itself. Slack, and there goes ur dream and 2 years down the drain (there's a 2 year bond btw). There's a reason why smart dudes get into IB and the rest goes down to Commercial Banking. So make sure that u r THAT INTELLIGENT, before accepting the offer, IF you have the intention to get into IB.
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I don't know about being intelligent, but I sure am hell willing to work hard for it. I realise how big of an opportunity it is, so I'm not about to let that go.
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Good luck then. Remember that there will also be internal interviewing by the department u have intention to join, which requires u to be fully equipped with a considerable amount of knowledge(just basic for them btw). Working hard is good, but with the right way is the key to success. Good to know that this doesn't deter u. Hopefully u r not having a false confidence, which would bring huge disappointment later on in the event your goal is not achieved.
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hi, i got a call from Azimah regarding the interview for MT position prolly after 1 week i applied?

i was planning to rearrange the interview time. could someone please provide me azimah's email pretty please (message me)?

thanks! =)
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Miss cece_yu, please do call her instead of emailing cuz she would most likely NOT reply you.
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Miss cece_yu, please do call her instead of emailing cuz she would most likely NOT reply you.
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well... i found out that i couldnt attend the interview. so, i'll need to reject. hence, i guess its more proper to reply in email.
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QUOTE(cece_yu @ Oct 4 2010, 08:16 PM)
well... i found out that i couldnt attend the interview. so, i'll need to reject. hence, i guess its more proper to reply in email.
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reject or postpone? LOL
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Hey guys! I'm new here.

Just wondering how long do they take to get back to you after the 2nd stage? As been indicated in the previous post, someone said that they take at least a week to proceed to the next stage. Is it true? TCheers.
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normally i will choose the company i interest to work with,
after that i will base on which company give me the offer 1st.

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I might well have screwed up the interview. In fact I'd say it's my worst one; I couldn't think of what to say despite my preparations. For any hopefuls, in the interview I'd suggest taking initiative and explain as many things as possible when asked. And especially prepare for the dreaded, "Tell me about yourself." I've never been particularly comfortable talking about myself, but this is the one thing I really should have focused more on.

And the economy, obviously.
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QUOTE(home.aziz @ Oct 5 2010, 01:10 PM)
I might well have screwed up the interview. In fact I'd say it's my worst one; I couldn't think of what to say despite my preparations. For any hopefuls, in the interview I'd suggest taking initiative and explain as many things as possible when asked. And especially prepare for the dreaded, "Tell me about yourself." I've never been particularly comfortable talking about myself, but this is the one thing I really should have focused more on.

And the economy, obviously.
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Hi there. I presume the interview was for the first stage? Mine was last week and I thought I messed it up as well, as the whole interview lasted well below 10 minutes and it was truly rushed through. But, I got the call for the aptitude test. So, don't really worry about it!
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The interview process is not at all challenging... =,=
Wait till u get into the training programme. Good luck! =)
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QUOTE(ks_1 @ Oct 5 2010, 02:08 PM)
Hi there. I presume the interview was for the first stage? Mine was last week and I thought I messed it up as well, as the whole interview lasted well below 10 minutes and it was truly rushed through. But, I got the call for the aptitude test. So, don't really worry about it!
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Hopefully you're right. I'd been timing everyone's interview and no one's lasted more than 15 minutes it seemed. I only lasted about 10 and I as absolutely mortified; just yesterday I had an interview with one PwC's partners and it lasted closer to two hours, so you can imagine how I felt after my CIMB's.

How long did it take for them contact you for the test? Miss Azimah told me it'd next week the earliest for me.
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I went for my first interview last week at that place, it wasn't pleasant at all in fact.

It wasnt so much about the interviewing process either. I was prepared for some parts of it from this thread. Firstly she came in looking very jumpy for some reason, she made almost no eye contact except when she ask me stuff that are more directed towards me!

I think I did above average, other than forgetting to add the correct salutation to dato seri nazir. AND the killer part is when Pn. Azimah circled my failed subject in transcript shakehead.gif kinda gives me an impression that they would not call me back, even though she did say something about them having an assessment centre in JB. What im trying to say is, since its only her, if she doesnt want me in she could show me the door rather than explaining to me how many rounds i am expecting and alternative assessment centres? Confusing, by the way it's been 1 week.
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QUOTE(gloomberg @ Oct 5 2010, 03:26 PM)
The interview process is not at all challenging... =,=
Wait till u get into the training programme. Good luck! =)
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No... I wouldn't call it challenging per se, more like it wasn't what was expected at all, for me at least. I suppose at the very least it's a good experience.

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