Ohh... hopefully it works this way! Thanks for your information!
Btw... are also one of their MTs?

Starting April 1st? Hope they don't April Fool us.

Oh you.

Maybe us. Whatever.

hey buddie guess i found the other 1 of the 16 thats going to die with me from next week onwards =)

have any other info on the others?

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Added on March 23, 2010, 10:11 ambtw so little of us only 16? i would have expected something like 30 in a batch or something lol.....

This post has been edited by ice_brakerz: Mar 23 2010, 10:11 AM

Wow...Congratzzz...
then which batch would u be in?? gambateh!!

Btw, this fri is 26 march ler... haha...

This post has been edited by kenkencafe: Mar 24 2010, 11:36 PM

Attended the final interview yesterday, received the offer today, collecting the offer letter tmr and beginning next week! I feel its so rushed, can't even consider a tad longer. Anyone else going through this also?

This post has been edited by green_green: Mar 25 2010, 07:12 PM

Hey...green green.. May I know when did you get your call for the last interview? Btw! Congrats!

Thanx for ur wish Well I received the call just this Monday, the 22th. If you still can't reach Ms Azimah, perhaps you can try emailing her. She usually calls back the next day. Anyway there were quite alot of ppl there for the interview so maybe not everyone could be slotted in for the day. Anyway good luck!

how d interview underpressure??

Living together? Seriously?

Update your stories as a TCB Associate here yeah! I'm waiting to hear them... about to send in my resume.

i think mine is even shorter time than yours. 1st interview thursday. 2nd interview on the following tuesday morning, then on the same day afternoon received call from them, asking me to go medical checkup on wednesday and then go sign the offer letter, guess what? start working on thursday.

Only 2 interviews? I thought there are 4? Are you sure you're joining TCB programme?

This post has been edited by Aurora Boreali: Mar 29 2010, 09:15 PM

Didn't go in the end, wanted to reschedule the interview but the person never called me back. For now I just accepted an offer with Standard Chartered Bank.
How things on your side? any update with HSBC? Given the choice between hsbc and cimb, which will you take?

Hahaha thats fast! Its good though, at least won't keep u waiting. Am glad that the wait is finally over though this is just the beginning of everything that's to come...

oops, sorry, posted for the wrong programme, not this TCB but someone else's.
but mine is really only 2 interviews.

@green, welcome to the real world, u will face many strong competitors.

This post has been edited by tehoice: Mar 29 2010, 11:20 PM

Say I'm curious, does any one how many applicants CIMB receive for its TCB programme and how many do they hire? Does any one know the ratio?

ballpark figure is around 1k a month. i was told is approximately to a ratio of 10:1.
e.g to hire 1, they interview around 10, to interview around 10, they screen through around 100.

I never understand how people can compare CIMB's TCB Programme and HSBC's MT programme. Both are different.

For one, CIMB's exposure will be mainly in the investment banking side while HSBC is towards the consumer banking side. Both have different exposure and standing in Malaysia.

So yeah, in a sense the only thing worth comparing is the salary. But perhaps we should really look beyond the salary which in this case is short term and look further on what our future job can do for our future life.

Hope this help to get some sense into people.

Thanks, but are you working in CIMB?

Because as far as I know, CIMB is still a bank. Sure it may have an investment banking but I have heard conflicting news from a few people that you don't necessary end up in investment banking and its quite stiff to get in(to investment banking dept). So most people still end up in conventional banking. So please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now assuming that the majority don't end up in investment (unless every one is guarantee) when you take the investment banking element out of it CIMB is some what similar to HSBC. At the core of it, both are banks. Both offers saving facility,credit facilities, to consumer, commercial and corporate etc etc etc.

On top of that both bank offers interesting "future job for your future life". Both are really attractive to a fresh graduate. So the key question i'm asking is we should compare a bit more to see what sort of career development both can offer. But in order to do that we need more information. Please I don't want to sound bias towards hsbc (as i did quite a bit of research) for example, in hsbc you can join their International Manager (its very prestiges). I don't (or can't) find some thing similar to that in cimb, but maybe only internally ppl know about it. So I'm trying to find more information and see which offer a good career development and whether it fits me.

Just my humble opinion.

very fair assessment, underpressure. it is widely known that cimb is trying to make its mark in se.asia, and as a growing bank, the opportunities are always there for those who are deserving. fair enough to say that you're more likely to end up in commercial banking in either cimb or hsbc, but in cimb, at least you know the door to ib is left a tad wider open than in hsbc just because of it's size and its deal flows.

cimb is less likely to send you all across the globe, but they do have a minute presence in hk ny and london, with a much stronger presence in sg, thai and indo. i think the possibilities of overseas exposure is still there for cimb if you are good, but it is not comparable to hsbc which can easily send you to hk or london(if you are good) just because they have a much more sizeable operation there like how cimb is in se.asia

Underpressure, I totally agree with you!

I would consider CIMB's size to be not only a disadvantage but paradoxically also a crucial career advantage. True, CIMB has grown aggressively these past few years and true there is still a wide gap between the investment and commercial sides of the company...which ofcourse the top management are attempting to bridge. Studies of M&As often state that 9/10 M&As fail due to the post-acquisition integration process! However, I feel I am ideally placed to reap the rewards of being in an emerging organization by simply being of part of a success story. Fact is there aren't many organizations out there where a fresh graduate can walk in and witness some massive organizational undertakings that end up successful. I stand the chance to get some hands-on experience working on organization-wide projects that would simply not be possible in larger organizations! As I begin my career, its certainly empowering!

Additionally, its smaller size also allows for concentration on TCB management trainees (much to my surprise). While in HSBC a management trainee is part of an established network within the company, one would not be valued from the very beginning. I feel in CIMB, TCBs are regarded relatively highly...at least from my experience thus far. My superiors surprisingly constantly wanna hear what I have to say. Even as a TCB, you can find yourself directly communicating with very senior members even if you are contributing only a small part of a larger project. I previously interned at Ernst & Young where my desk was opposite the room of a senior Partner. He walked past me everyday for 2 months and not once did he acknowledge me besides responding to the good morning I occasionally wished him whenever we made eye contact.

AND another plus point is...Nazir Razak is a real piece of work! You will realize that if you ever get the chance hear him speak. Im not saying he's god or that you'd have to bend over every time you hear his name and Im not buying into the whole HR crap bout viewing your bosses as organizational teachers or whatever. But when it comes to Nazir Razak...the man means business and he's definitely the center of inspiration in the company. This guy does believe that respect is earned not simply given by title or if you happen to have a Prime Minister bro. How many HSBC employees can say that about their CEO? Im not saying its horrible that you won't get that sorta central figure in HSBC or any other larger organization...but personally for me, in my first dip into working life, I do appreciate having such a figure head to look up to.

Oh and with regards to where you end up being part of TCB...well that is entirely dependent on your performance in the classroom training. If they think you can cut it in corporate finance, treasury or wherever in IB then thats where you will go! If you are simply suited for CB then thats where you will go...its not the end of the world just a different experience.

Besides, at this day and age....how many people spend their entire career with one firm? ppl inherently move around...but as a starting point for one to figure out what they really want in their career...CIMB is just as good as anywhere else I think!

Having said that...if you get into HSBC's international programs then bloody good on ya! you instantly get the chance to see the world which naturally CIMB cant offer! Simply can't argue against the rewards of working in a large organization that provides you with vast array of career paths and when you leave you'd still have HSBC stamped on you CV!

This post has been edited by 4021987: Apr 17 2010, 02:26 PM