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viper88
post Nov 24 2008, 12:35 PM

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Unlikely free fall, technical rebound i think yes.

Buy rate 45% Sell rate is 55%.

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QUOTE(sampoo @ Nov 24 2008, 12:29 PM)
The share will free fall, any up is consider technical rebound.  icon_question.gif
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post Nov 24 2008, 01:54 PM

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Here's Zelan Dividen payout

HISTORICAL DIVIDEND PAYOUT

No Announcement Date FYE Date Ex Date Pay Date Par Value(RM) Normal Dividend (RM) Special Dividend (RM)
1 10112008 31032009 24112008 09122008 0.500 0.0500 -
2 30052008 31032008 12062008 30062008 0.500 0.0650 -

3 27092007 31012008 24102007 15112007 0.500 0.0250 -
4 27092007 31012008 24102007 15112007 0.500 0.0500 -
5 18072007 31012007 01082007 15082007 1.000 0.0500 -

6 26092006 31012007 12102006 15112006 1.000 0.0500 -
7 14072006 31012006 28072006 15082006 1.000 0.1000 -

8 07062005 31012005 29072005 22082005 1.000 0.0800 -

9 16042004 31012004 28072004 20082004 1.000 0.0400 -

10 03042003 31012003 21072003 18082003 1.000 0.0800 -

11 03042002 31012002 17072002 09082002 1.000 0.0800 -

12 29032001 31012001 09052001 08062001 1.000 0.0800 -

13 03042000 31012000 08052000 02062000 1.000 0.0800 -

14 27041999 31011999 07081999 27081999 1.000 0.0800 -

15 30041998 31011998 28081998 1.000 0.0800 -


About 0.10 dividen per year. Quite good.

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 24 2008, 01:33 PM)
Don know how you look at it... You want constant dividend? Check for zelan does it pay dividend every year? Or every five years  tongue.gif
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Added on November 24, 2008, 1:56 pmBuy at low price and sell at good profit price.
Need to monitor and chk for news.

Nowdays market swing fast.

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QUOTE(sampoo @ Nov 24 2008, 01:47 PM)
yes, i agree. same go to the property company. MKLand, LBS, Talam, and so many more. now almost bankrupt lah!  rclxub.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 12:40 AM

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Just came back, rolleyes.gif Been out since noon till now..

Set my o9 trading system to queue buy Zelan back again n lucky all orders 30000 unit at 0.76 matched.
I queue low price, didn't follow others chasing the share coz i feel its price will drop back close to its today morning ex-dividen price.

News from Btimes.
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html

MMC weighing 'options' for Zelan

MMC slumped 17 per cent to RM1.37 and Zelan rose 3.3 per cent to 77.5 sen at the close

MMC Corp, owner of Malaysia’s largest independent power producer, said it is considering “several options” for its 39 per cent-owned Zelan Bhd unit after it was reported that MMC may buy out the business.

MMC, backed by billionaire Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary, may take over Zelan or combine its construction unit, MMC Engineering Bhd, with Zelan in exchange for Zelan shares, a weekly newspaper said on November 22.

“We are considering several options at the moment and will make an announcement at the appropriate time," MMC said in an e-mailed response to Bloomberg News today.

MMC slumped 27 sen, or 17 per cent, to RM1.37, its biggest decline since August 5. MMC was the worst performer on the Kuala Lumpur Composite Index today.

Zelan Bhd rose 2.5 sen, or 3.3 per cent, to 77.5 sen, its biggest advance since November 10. - Bloomberg

I checked with my remiser about Zelan, he told me tat based on MMC selldown today, there's high possiblilty Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary ppl selling off some MMC shares to buys Zelan shares to increase his share ctrl in Zelan. Between Zelan and MMC, he told me MMC now more attractive to buy in stages or wait till it drop another 10-20 sen. Since MMC drop quite sharp, there might be some technical rebound in short term. Zelan price drop but still close to its ex-dividen price today which is not too bad, can buy when low n sell if it start to climb back again. Need to monitor these 2 counters closely.

If you want to buy Citigroup shares, go open OSK acct and sign another document for oversea trading den can buy liao.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 24 2008, 10:48 PM)
Ya lor... just too bad can't buy Citigroup shares....  sad.gif

So will the CITIGRP-C1 be affected too?

Haizzz... tomorrow working, don't think I can monitor that counter
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Why your friend didn't buy for you too?  sweat.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 06:34 AM

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UP.

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QUOTE(spriggan @ Nov 25 2008, 01:07 AM)
tomorow KLCI up ??
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post Nov 25 2008, 09:30 AM

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Wow.. MMCCorp shoot higher than Zelan as wat my remiser predicted.
I grab Zelan another 34000 unit this morning at 0.795 average up yesterday 0.76.
Not bad.. it shoot up to 0.81!! rclxm9.gif

Already offload all at 0.80 when see selling pressure comes.
Thx Zelan made few Ks ady. laugh.gif

Hope others tat buying Zelan also make money.

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Nov 25 2008, 09:25 AM)
thinking today zelan will be red red again .. hehe
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Yup, Dow fly yesterday, so quite confident can play Zelan abit when klse start early morning.
I queue at 0.78 this morning but it shoot fast, see its buying queue is strong then only i grab at 0.795. icon_rolleyes.gif

Just now i see alot buying vol at 0.80.. wow. now it start to go up gain..!

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 25 2008, 07:18 AM)
Too late..... Citigroup stocks already rallied (Up USD 2.18.....  shocking.gif  blink.gif )

Wah! You queued Zelan again?

I queued at 0.735 but didn't get  sad.gif Too low, I guess....

Added on November 25, 2008, 9:38 amI cant predict 100% la.. have to see chart tracker n ppl que buy n sell..
What i know is theres strong support at this counter but got strong ppl selling down its price also.

Now its going up again... i sold 64000 unit at 0.80 just now ady. laugh.gif Later if drop maybe will grab some ...

Buy at price suitable for your own risk and remember to take profit if see buying queue less lioa n selling queue increase alot!

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Nov 25 2008, 09:32 AM)
average up? u got confident the zelan will shoot up again?
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Zelan news.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...elan24/Article/

MMC mulling options for Zelan

MMC Corp (2194) , Malaysia's largest port operator, said it is considering several "options" for its Zelan Bhd unit after it was reported that MMC may buy out the construction company. MMC stock headed for a 21/2-year low.

"We are considering several options at the moment and will make an announcement at an appropriate time," MMC said in an e-mailed response to Bloomberg News yesterday.

MMC tumbled as much as 17 per cent in local trading as investors doubted the merits of buying the rest of the builder, the worst-performing stock on the main index, amid a global recession.

A takeover, if decided, would follow MMC's August agreement to pay RM2.19 billion for a local airport manager and some water-treatment assets.
"Zelan has got a good order book, but based on market conditions, it has not seen any increase in orders," said Pankaj Kumar, who manages US$540 million (US$1 = RM3.63) of assets, including MMC shares, at Kurnia Insurans Bhd. "On that basis, investors have some valid concerns."

MMC fell as much as 28 sen to RM1.36 and traded at RM1.37 at 12:30pm local time break, headed for the lowest close since April 28 2006. Zelan jumped as much as 14 per cent, the biggest gain in eight months.

MMC, backed by billionaire Tan Sri Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary, may take over its 39 per cent-owned Zelan unit or combine its construction unit MMC Engineering Bhd with Zelan in exchange for Zelan shares, the Edge weekly newspaper said last Saturday.

MMC should refrain from making new acquisitions because "it has a lot on its plate already," said Chris Eng, an analyst at OSK Research Sdn Bhd, with a "neutral" call on MMC stock.

In August, MMC agreed to buy Senai Airport Terminal Services Sdn Bhd, operator of Senai Airport in Johor, and Aliran Ihsan Resources Bhd, which supplies 70 per cent of Johor's water.

"The man who has been growing Zelan is leaving the company," said Eng, referring to Chang Si Fock, who will quit as Zelan's chief executive officer in January when his employment contract expires.

"This creates uncertainty" in Zelan, he said. - Bloomberg
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How much u holding at what price?

I've exited Zelan early this morning, market seems more toward profit taking.
Will stay sideline and monitor.. maybe will grab some more at lower price.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 25 2008, 01:28 PM)
Nice. I'm holding on to mine.... wanna wait for it to go up higher.... no hurry to sell at the moment.... smile.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 07:23 PM

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EPF is pumping alot money to buy Zelan stock but chk today Zelan announcement, its
Director of the Company, Mr. Lam Kar Keong and The Group Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Chang Si Fock @ Chong See Fock
keep selling off their shares. hmm.gif

I queue back to buy Zelan at 0.77 but didn't get.
Queue Lionind at 0.625 also no luck.. it drop to 0.63 then shoot up back to 0.645 at closing time.
Lionind 1% dividen very little....compare to zelan 5 sen dividen... nevertheless tomorrow and thursday its price will start to move.

Hopefully can get at a lower price 2molo icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 25 2008, 05:17 PM)
Haha.... I bought at 0.785.... how much stock aaa? Hehe... very small amount only... not like you, so kaya...  tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 10:28 PM

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Ya, i oso feel US market will start profit taking soon. Think their bad news there still not really end yet.

Your stock preference more higher blue chip lvl type.... not cheap wo.. rolleyes.gif

My aim still same
zelan - active counter
lionind - active counter
ytlpowr-wb - defensive
mphb - defensive stock target abt 0.95 sen

I'll only buy any of these 2 counter stock if their price fall.
Too many counters need more bullet...need to safe some for backup plans.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Nov 25 2008, 08:22 PM)
I think there will be a few other bad news coming out soon....... have to get ready for more drop. Then can probably get good deals when market falls again. Looking at KLSE today, the gains were minimal, as expected. Not like Dow....

I think I'm going to wait and see what happens after this. Will probably grab a bit more stocks if the price goes down further.  smile.gif

All the good counters doesn't seem to want to fall much. I'm eyeing these few counters too - PBBANK-01, IOICORP, RESORT, GENTING and a few others.... hope they fall more!!!  biggrin.gif


Added on November 25, 2008, 8:24 pm

That's real bad. Any chance to hold it for a few years to let the prices go up?  hmm.gif
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post Nov 26 2008, 09:03 AM

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Watch out for AirAsia..theres news about privatisation coming soon.

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Ya.. ramunia plunged so fast! sweat.gif

Lionind beat gravity go up!

QUOTE(hanif444 @ Nov 26 2008, 09:33 AM)
they been dropping from 3x...at beginning of the year dude... cool2.gif


Added on November 26, 2008, 9:36 am

Ramunia drop like no father...after the parent drop off the privatisation
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post Nov 26 2008, 10:11 AM

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Any1 here managed to grab Lionind ? tongue.gif

I que few days back at lower price but din get .. arggh.. blush.gif

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Tomorrow last day 2 buy bfr ex.div
Its dividen not much only 1% means 100 unit only RM10 dividen. Okla if buy earlier not bad coz it fly now..

I've been targeting this counter since last week..man..i set my buy price lower, it alwys drop close to my buy price den go up.
I know it will have high chances to shoot up when close to its ex div date coz its price support quite strong last week.

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Nov 26 2008, 10:13 AM)
when will be the div pay out for lionind? or none? the price for this counter like big wave
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post Nov 26 2008, 10:45 AM

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LIONID is RM 1 par value stock.

1% or RM 1 is 0.01sen

if u hold 100 unit share den u get RM 10. But tats bfr minus gov tax .. tongue.gif

Just now i already managed to buy lionind at 0.65 rclxm9.gif
Hope it will go up.

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Nov 26 2008, 10:20 AM)
1% 100 units = RM 10 .. how to calculate
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post Nov 26 2008, 12:22 PM

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Ops. miss tat 0 bhd.

If have 50,000 units get RM500. No tax.. good icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Nov 26 2008, 10:48 AM)
Viper, if you have 1000 units , then is $10, otherwise 100 units is $1
, thats before minus 25% tax
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Nope.. aiming for YTLPowr-WB but its rock solid around 0.50+/-


QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 26 2008, 12:26 PM)
You are holding ytl power too?  biggrin.gif
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Ya.. i know. Its mom share oso good.

QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 26 2008, 12:32 PM)
You got to see the mother share lol...If the mother share price solid sure for the warrant too
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post Nov 26 2008, 01:38 PM

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Got this from my remiser.

This is from our research analyst...KNM is quite a "dangerous" stock to play coz Repco Lau is playing with it.If
you wanna go for this stock just be careful.


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QUOTE(jvcpcv55 @ Nov 26 2008, 01:28 PM)
KNM 3Q
1 Revenue 746,204
2 Profit/Loss Before Tax 127,818 
3 Profit/Loss After Tax and Minority Interest 103,294 
4 Net Profit/Loss For The Period 103,416 
5 Basic Earnings/Loss Per Shares (sen) 2.73 
6 Dividend Per Share (sen) 0.00 
7 Net Tangible Assets Per Share (RM)    0.4500

Nine-month net profit 253.831 million (increased 86.10%)
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post Nov 26 2008, 02:04 PM

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Heres more from my remiser

Following stocks are threatening to break up

1. Mulpha
2. Zelan
3. Kinsteel
4. Scomi
5. MRCB

while KNM is threatening to break down, out of the right angle formation.
Keep a CLOSE EYE on the stocks.

Beware KNM buyers.

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