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Mavik
post May 28 2013, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(beckhowen @ May 27 2013, 11:45 AM)
hi guys..i received an offer as a software engineer in the solutions workforce. I read in so many forums and it said that when your in solutions you usually cant go up to the consulting workforce.Is it true?I wanted to be in the consulting workforce but was offered solutions instead.Do the solutions workforce travel also?
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If you wanted consulting and then offered solutions means that the interviewer has identified you more suited towards the solutions workforce where the work is more focused on technical abilities and skills. Both have different career paths in different directions.
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QUOTE(zzz0507 @ May 28 2013, 10:40 PM)
Now u make me confuse. Coz I tot I was asking that guy @beckhowen. Suddenly u reply me?  shocking.gif haha..

Fresh grad maybe ok la 2.5k. But if experienced. got offered trainee position, then how? from 3k+ down to 2.5k again ah? Is that called 'career advancement'? shakehead.gif

If it's a real 'training' like they really train u on certain new technology, that u've nvr learned b4, then should be fine.

At least u have some1 to guide u, learn n grow. But as what I heard/read, totally diff.

Training is all on ur own. Even kena campak to project strait away. If got pelampung then can survive la.

If not then prepare to get drowned? Any insider can explain more about the so called 'training'?

I enquired them , but they refused to reveal training structure, software/tools that gonna be used during the 3 month traineeship.

Not even letting me know what project I would be assigned to upon joining. Really need to think over n over again b4 making any decision...
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lol...just noticed la...i syok sendiri pulak ==' nway I think I already make decision to take my other offer... coz the person say "unfortunately NO" when I ask are there chances of jumping to CWF after some period in SWF..
really heart broken already after hear dat... maybe in future if get chance to join CWF, I shall meet u all... for time being I guess not yet... sad.gif
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post May 29 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(zzz0507 @ May 28 2013, 09:40 PM)
Now u make me confuse. Coz I tot I was asking that guy @beckhowen. Suddenly u reply me?  shocking.gif haha..

Fresh grad maybe ok la 2.5k. But if experienced. got offered trainee position, then how? from 3k+ down to 2.5k again ah? Is that called 'career advancement'? shakehead.gif

If it's a real 'training' like they really train u on certain new technology, that u've nvr learned b4, then should be fine.

At least u have some1 to guide u, learn n grow. But as what I heard/read, totally diff.

Training is all on ur own. Even kena campak to project strait away. If got pelampung then can survive la.

If not then prepare to get drowned? Any insider can explain more about the so called 'training'?

I enquired them , but they refused to reveal training structure, software/tools that gonna be used during the 3 month traineeship.

Not even letting me know what project I would be assigned to upon joining. Really need to think over n over again b4 making any decision...
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That is the life of being in a service and consulting firm. You won't know when your next project will come and you won't know what the scope or technology your client would want to use. If you have a certain set of skills then I am very sure you will be aligned to those but those of you who haven't majored in any particular set of skills, do you have a plan on how you want to progress in that set of skills? Is also knowing what project a key criteria for joining the firm? As a consulting firm, you will be moving from project to project as they complete and going to various different clients.
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post May 29 2013, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ May 29 2013, 09:10 AM)
That is the life of being in a service and consulting firm. You won't know when your next project will come and you won't know what the scope or technology your client would want to use. If you have a certain set of skills then I am very sure you will be aligned to those but those of you who haven't majored in any particular set of skills, do you have a plan on how you want to progress in that set of skills? Is also knowing what project a key criteria for joining the firm? As a consulting firm, you will be moving from project to project as they complete and going to various different clients.
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You must be someone working for Accenture. Here's my situation.. I was once a trainee before, working in IT MNC. The in-house training tailored to groom the associates, specializing in 1 chosen technology (although you will also get to learn / gain other mixed skill set during the early phase of the training both technical and soft skills). I would say that the training was well structured, perfectly executed and if I were to attend the like, externally, it would be very costly. That's why I'm curious.. wonder how Accenture is conducting the 3-month traineeship? Will I get to learn new skills? Or continue doing the same? If it's the same set of skills that I have majored in, then why would I have to be 'trained' again rather than getting offered a permanent position? Remember as a trainee you'll get to earn no more than 2500. These are things I need to know, but unfortunately didn't get the response I expected from them. hmm.gif

Knowing what project is not a key criteria joining the firm but will definitely be beneficial to the new joiners. It gives you the peace of mind, knowing that they have something planned for you at least in the near future. Imagine when u had tendered the resignation notice for the company ur currently serving. What would u do next? Of course you would want to prepare urself before joining the new company. If u know nothing about the client, the project or the training, then how do u make good preparations?


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QUOTE(zzz0507 @ May 29 2013, 02:17 PM)
You must be someone working for Accenture. Here's my situation.. I was once a trainee before, working in IT MNC. The in-house training tailored to groom the associates, specializing in 1 chosen technology (although you will also get to learn / gain other mixed skill set during the early phase of the training both technical and soft skills). I would say that the training was well structured, perfectly executed and if I were to attend the like, externally, it would be very costly. That's why I'm curious.. wonder how Accenture is conducting the 3-month traineeship? Will I get to learn new skills? Or continue doing the same? If it's the same set of skills that I have majored in, then why would I have to be 'trained' again rather than getting offered a permanent position? Remember as a trainee you'll get to earn no more than 2500. These are things I need to know, but unfortunately didn't get the response I expected from them. hmm.gif 

Knowing what project is not a key criteria joining the firm but will definitely be beneficial to the new joiners. It gives you the peace of mind, knowing that they have something planned for you at least in the near future. Imagine when u had tendered the resignation notice for the company ur currently serving. What would u do next? Of course you would want to prepare urself before joining the new company. If u know nothing about the client, the project or the training, then how do u make good preparations?
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1) An IT MNC has a very different type of org structure compared to a consulting firm. Unless that firm is only focused on one type of consulting area, e.g. SAP Consulting, Oracle Consulting. When it comes to scenarios such as that, yes, it is easy to set up a training facility and a set standard number of training schools, curriculum and duration and they can communicate that to you because they would know that you will be doing SAP/Oracle.

2) In consulting, multiple use of software and technology on projects across the globe. If a consulting firm interviews you for a traineeship, that means that your existing skillsets do NOT qualify you for a skilled interview in any particular area. There is a difference when you are trying to be hired in for any particular skillset or perhaps you are hired in to fill in a particular department.

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For example, a consulting firm may just be hiring additional staff, fresh, to bolster up their technology department. In the technology department, they need to fill resources in Oracle, SAP, and Microsoft technologies. So the number of slots is 6, 2 for each technology area and HR searches for multiple candidates in order to get a higher chance of hiring 6. When HR contacts the candidates, they can't tell the candidate which technology they will be trained in because until they get the response for enough candidates or a particular candidate has perhaps experience in one of the particular areas, it is very difficult to tell the candidate which technology he/she will be trained on.


3) In the consulting industry, some projects are not confirmed nor are some of the roles.

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For example, I run a microsoft technology consulting company. I am trying to win a project to setup a Sharepoint system for the Selangor Government. I know I don't have enough staff to staff the project hence during the project bidding phase, I start to hire new recruits in thinking that I might a good chance of winning the project. On the other hand, my other sales staff, is also bidding on a Microsoft Project Server system setup for another company and he also needs staff. There is a chance that I might not get the project with the Selangor Government and if I do recruit you in, I will then staff you on the other project.

The reason why some folks will try to hire before the project starts or confirmed is because if I only begin to look for staff after the project is won, I would probably be wasting valuable project time trying to hire resources and the overall project might be delayed.


Hence this is what I can assume is the case and my advise to you is to learn how to adapt. You mentioned that YOU would like to know what the next projects are coming. So if I were to tell you that there is a JAVA project, SAP project, Oracle project and Siebel project in the pipeline, would you go and prepare for ALL of them?
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post May 29 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ May 29 2013, 04:07 PM)
1) An IT MNC has a very different type of org structure compared to a consulting firm. Unless that firm is only focused on one type of consulting area, e.g. SAP Consulting, Oracle Consulting. When it comes to scenarios such as that, yes, it is easy to set up a training facility and a set standard number of training schools, curriculum and duration and they can communicate that to you because they would know that you will be doing SAP/Oracle.

2) In consulting, multiple use of software and technology on projects across the globe. If a consulting firm interviews you for a traineeship, that means that your existing skillsets do NOT qualify you for a skilled interview in any particular area. There is a difference when you are trying to be hired in for any particular skillset or perhaps you are hired in to fill in a particular department.
3) In the consulting industry, some projects are not confirmed nor are some of the roles.
Hence this is what I can assume is the case and my advise to you is to learn how to adapt. You mentioned that YOU would like to know what the next projects are coming. So if I were to tell you that there is a JAVA project, SAP project, Oracle project and Siebel project in the pipeline, would you go and prepare for ALL of them?
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I see.. Thanks for your crystal clear explanation. With all the useful quotes.. it helps a lot in getting better picture of it. Really something to ponder upon. notworthy.gif

If only they offer me CWF position.. sad.gif

Anyway, will see how it goes, approaching the deadline for responding to the offer. You better be my sifu if I decide to join Accenture tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2013, 08:41 AM

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Hi does anyone one here have any idea on Accenture Kelana? in terms of their working environment, job scope and etc.

wanted to understand well as all this while Accenture based at The Gardens!
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post Jun 25 2013, 02:44 PM

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harluuurr~ any idea guys and gals?
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post Jun 28 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(pingguopie @ Jun 24 2013, 08:41 AM)
Hi does anyone one here have any idea on Accenture Kelana? in terms of their working environment, job scope and etc.

wanted to understand well as all this while Accenture based at The Gardens!
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Hi, I think Kelana is mostly Solutions workforce if not mistaken. Wish to know more about it too.
You got the offer from Accenture?
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post Jul 8 2013, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Apr 16 2013, 09:21 PM)
Any September 2013 starters for consulting?
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Hi, eugene. Are you starting at September 2013 for consulting?
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post Jul 8 2013, 04:42 PM

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Nope, the one in kelana jaya is actually a new acquisition.

http://www.accenture.com/us-en/landing-pag...s/newspage.aspx
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post Jul 8 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(alcibald @ Jul 8 2013, 04:42 PM)
Nope, the one in kelana jaya is actually a new acquisition.

http://www.accenture.com/us-en/landing-pag...s/newspage.aspx
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do u noe anything inside that branch? hows the working environment?

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QUOTE(alcibald @ Jul 8 2013, 04:42 PM)
Nope, the one in kelana jaya is actually a new acquisition.

http://www.accenture.com/us-en/landing-pag...s/newspage.aspx
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lol.. what you doing trolling here.. hahahahahhahaa
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post Jul 24 2013, 11:40 AM

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In Accenture there's 2 popular division which is:

1. Consulting
2. Solution Workforce (SWF)

To enter Consulting, you must have these criteria:

1. Graduated from Overseas from top universities (or Local universities with good results also can - but i believe they have quota)
2. Speaks English very well
3. Pleasant looking

So its very hard to enter Consulting honestly because only gods know what is their requirement. The pros is, your starting salary is pretty high compared to other consulting firms (PWC, EY, others) and, you definitely learn alot. Come on, you are freshies don't expect to go back at 5 lah. If you don't want work late, go work with the government. The main key points you should consider to work with Accenture Consulting Malaysia is the experience that you will received, and also the salary is OK OK.

Secondly, the Solution Workforce. To enter SWF is pretty easy, local universities are most welcome. You'll received the same experience like the Consulting folks. Name it. Now the draw back it, with the equal number of work compared to the Consulting folks, your salary is HALF from what the Consulting folks received. They said its the industry standards which i don't understand? Other than salary, i also realized the Consulting folks usually look-down towards those SWF folks. Maybe because these Consulting folks feels "glamour" and proud" to enter the Consulting compared to those un-lucky SWF. So, i conclude the draw backs is the HALF salary compared to Consulting folks, and you have to prepared to accept the racist given by the Consulting folks (the Manager from Consulting would do the same as well FYI). Blame the entry criteria.

Conclusion, only work in Solution Workforce IF you did not receive any job offers. Last resort. Or else, ready to face the racism and low-wages salary.


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Just want to ask, i just received a phone interview yesterday for a job i applied through the ACN website (just trying to test market for my CV hehe). For info, i have 4.2 years experienced working in a local MNC company, already promoted to senior exec level.. This is actually my 1st Job, and already been so long since the last time i attend any interview. I am from technical commercial background with an electrical engineering degree experienced in operation maintenance of a plant and now i'm currently in project development division, searching for projects. in 2007 i do my intern with PCSB in klcc.


What actually the perks that accenture can offer and what can i expect, salary etc?? i don't want my demand to be a bit low than market value.. rugi2.. huhu... btw, my current company already gave me a good benefit ( min 4 months bonus, free basement parking ,free gymnasium pass, yes i'm a gym junkie, gratuity after 10 years of working, haji/umrah passage, extensive health benefit etc)...

btw, i applied for assurance executive (min 3-5 years exp requirement) and the HR personnel told me it is not really a direct technical/engineering kind of thing, it will be more to support the client ,Petronas if i'm not mistaken. My current notice to resign are 3 months and they ask if there any buy out clause (it does look like ACN is desperate for people).
really need advise on what can i expect and what type of environment working in ACN.

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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post Aug 17 2013, 12:29 AM

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Hi, I have applied online for the Accenture graduate consulting program last month but I haven't got any call from them yet.. I noticed that a few of you applied there got phone interviews just after few weeks.. Does this mean that I'd failed the first screening process ? =(

Thank you.

Ps I'm from accounting and finance background..

Thank you
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QUOTE(spikyxD @ Jul 8 2013, 12:52 PM)
Hi, eugene. Are you starting at September 2013 for consulting?
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yup just started
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post Sep 6 2013, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Sep 6 2013, 01:57 PM)
yup just started
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Mind to share more info about working at ACN ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(spikyxD @ Sep 6 2013, 02:21 PM)
Mind to share more info about working at ACN ? biggrin.gif
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Many people already sharing the working life in this thread. Just read page by page.
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ahh...i jz went to interview and the interviewer told me that basically the working hours is 9am-9pm OMG OMG...

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