how come racing line is wider? i tot racing line is always the shortest way to get out from there?

teach me pls sifo

no need to race race la. once you fall, it'll be like nfs carbon. See you in bulletin utama

shortest way? stick to the inner lines, for sure will get the shortest line than racing lines...
if u like to watch racing sport game such as F1 or A1 or supercar racing... u will understand....
but try it at ur own risk and make sure the road free from traffic....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_line


who say use racing line must speeding?
hence the car more stable that while cornering...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Nov 17 2008, 09:09 PM

my definition of racing line :

shortest way to get through a corner and will get u to the best place to enter the next corner?

izzit?

nola... should be the fastest speed u can take through the corner... means less steering work is the best...

in short... OUT-IN-OUT line...

@@@Off topic.

racing line is not the shorttest line.
it's the line that gives you the fastest time.

if you take the shortest line, you end up slowing your car down alot, and you'll have a tighter turn. once you exit the turn, you'll have to speed up a lot(because you slowed down a lot for the turn(tighter)). * you'll lose a lot of precious time this way(only in racing la. going down from genting, very rush meh? 95 years old already??)

This post has been edited by fillet: Nov 18 2008, 12:40 AM

lol, trying to correct people but u cant even differentiate between break and brake

ur car must be an unstable one.. what car are u driving anyway?

myvi...
no say 100% unstable, i attack cornering with higher speed to lead better FC after exit from corner...
by using race line i will feel more comfortable and ensure the tire grip still there 100% for my safety...

?
left foot braking only used when u wanna race on track and minimize time from moving ur foot from throttle to brake right

if use brake more will stress the brake more thus more smell la...
u dunno what u're talking about

use engine braking which is lower gear so that ur car rpm is on the high side during downhill to minimize usage of brake.. so that the engine help brake

I guess u can't stick to 1 gear and expect it to have the appropriate engine-braking force for all gradients of slope! So you need to shift to diff gears whenever needed, and use the foot brakes sparingly to aid braking. Oh, the aircond helps with engine-braking, too! haha! Open the windows for air drag and some cool air.

sorry lo...
topic stated driving techniques uphill and downhill
so i just reply lo...

Is it true dat no load is applied to the engine when u're doing this for engine braking?i just wan to clarify

once u switch on ur engine u are consuming petrol...

Yes you were observant with my words.
BUT......

I was talking about fuel-flow rate on various conditions driving such as idling conditions, when you WOT and when you dont step at the accelerator pedal at all.
In other words, when you are coasting down a hill, practically your engine consume very little petrol (and thats obvious by looking at your fuel gauge for the differences).

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Added on November 18, 2008, 10:31 amThink of it as you riding the bicycle at a mountain
When you cycle up a hill, you impose stress (load) on your own physical body (engine) and the mechanical driving components of your bicycle drive train.
When you cycle down hill, you have no stress and even relaxed (no load) and it's same as putting your gear on Neutral.

I know bicycles dont have 'Engine Braking'.Coming back to automobiles...
It's true that your engine has much lesser load when going downhill.

P.s- Dont reply back to me you have never rode a bicycle in your life before.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Nov 18 2008, 10:39 AM

sorry i dont understand....

thx bro...yea i understood what r u trying 2 explain....

auto rides also can hav engine brake... and dun constantly use L...it'll kill ur gearbox faster...

tat burn smell emitted from ur brakes.. its ok wan.. so long u dun brake too hard...try mix engine brake+ur foot brake....

And what kind of theory is that to back your facts about "killing your GB faster" ,now that I question you back?
Why? How?

To save your car/life or to save and over-protect your gearbox, which is more valueable?

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Nov 18 2008, 01:10 PM

dont ever think about turning off engine while going downhill

I don't drive Genting downhill before. But using manual tranny, I was able to overtake most of the cars with very minimum pedal work for 1 hour ++ (average speed is about 100kph from cameron to Ipoh route). The brake pad and front tyre are still working very well at the bottom of the hill.

As long as the tyre and brakepad is not overloaded, our car should be able to behave well throughout all the corners. So, the key point is cornering entry/exit positioning and speed (don't overspeed especially on high profile tyres with soft sidewalls), as well as very gentle and good control on the pedal and steering work.

Just my 2 cents