As stated, can i know why les paul is always heavier than other guitars(including EPI and GIBSON)?
sometimes using a les paul will cause me feel tired.

This post has been edited by ginolo: Nov 17 2008, 12:36 AM

Ok, I seriously didn't get that second part, but the first is quite simple. Les Pauls are made from solid mahogany, a really dense wood which is also heavy. Although lately they have tried to reduce the weight by introducing a new chambering system in the bodies.

Maybe you mean using a Les Paul will make you feel tired?

If you mean by that, the heavy Les Paul guitar is actually making your shoulder tired because you are carrying it using the strap.

It's a small price to pay to get such a heavy, "lemak" tone.
Build up your muscles man! I was quite puny until I strapped on the Zakk Wylde LP (one of the heaviest Les Pauls in the Epiphone collection mind you.... WAAAAAY heavier then the regular Custom Les Paul), and now, even a monster like the Razorback 255 (which is solid mahogany too, but waaaaaay bigger) is no problem.

sorry for the mistake.
It's because im tired and tomorrow is my final exam.

If you mean by that, the heavy Les Paul guitar is actually making your shoulder tired because you are carrying it using the strap
**yes, this is what i mean.

sorry for my lousy english.
Sorry.

It is okay.

Simple solution... Get a wider and harder strap (ex. leather)

i see, thank you for you guys solution, can the leather strap solve the problem?

@blacktrix,
what you mean by It's a small price to pay to get such a heavy, "lemak" tone.
you mean the tone of les paul is weak or what?

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Added on November 17, 2008, 12:58 amand addition, im the kind of person who always shake my guitar when playing.
im like my chemical romance and i always play like Frank Iero if you know who is him and how he play in the concert & live.

This post has been edited by ginolo: Nov 17 2008, 12:58 AM

Leather strap can make your shoulder feel comfortable.

No, it is a price to pay to get such a heavy guitar also a guitar that produce heavy tone.

The Les Paul is a heavy guitar, all you can do is just keep playing it (while you standing and carrying it with the strap) until you are get used to the weight. Until then, you will feel it is comfortable for you. Like you cannot carry a 10kg item today, maybe you should try carry it more and maybe tomorrow you can carry it.

U should understand it even if ur eng r good

A better strap can reduce the pressure on your shoulder.
what do ya mean by "shake" ?

well,he meant the guitar has thick tones, so its worth the pain

yea, i know, i always wish that i can hold the guitar high using left hand when im playing it. just like what Greenday's armstrong did.

I suggest you better play the guitar normally first. Then only think about that.

haha, yea, always on the training to do that with my SX. k, got to sleep. tomorrow final ....
good night everyone. have a nice day

You too.

good luck in ur exams!

Some of the common problems one will have when using a LP:-
1. Having a kick ass painfull sound for ya axe
2. Your shoulder will ache like hell
3. You will tend to have the Slash pose
4. You will look way fatter if you are already fat
5. The sounds of the guitar will be so lemak and so creamy that you will end up having high musical cholesterol.

Good one.

Tsktsk.

the chambered gibsons are light

bro, but les paul has the heavy sound.
can't really judge like tat la. got pros, got cons.
its heavy coz of the wood lo.
i mean its unique, coz wat can replace wt the les paul is now?

If you notice... my so called 'problems' regarding lp are actually attributes and compliments...
Avid fan of LP but no $$$ to get 1 myself for now... maybe next year...

those r just shortcuts like sms

Well, you can consider a SX lp standard. Am using that. Seriously its not that bad that i imagined. Ya know SX can pawn a lot of copy guitar ya know? sounds from squeir telecaster use the same amp also not good as my sx. im not offending squeir user, but this is just my two cents. and you can get a SX below rm800.

Issit the "equation" a heavy les paul=heavy tone? , or it's just an opinion?

I don't know how you define heavy tones, but to me the LP has a very deep, thick tone.

i see, what guitar you using? ibanez rg? hows the sound? not deep and thick tone as les paul?

eerr....i'm surprise that no one wants to correct this. A les paul is a guitar model introduced by GIBSON. EPI is a subsidiary company of GIBSON. the les paul shape is widely copied by other manufacturer either for their own model or just a copy.

it's obvious you did not understand his post . please refrain from commenting on things u don't understand.

you can't compare a tele and a les paul as both guitars have their own sound. it's like comparing a banana to an apple.

True about the Les Paul VS Telecaster......
The tele is twangy, while the Les Paul is Heavy (in terms of tone)....

les pauls are not heavy.
the other guitars are just too light.

drink more beer.
lift more weights.

I know SX is pretty good... Been hearin good reviews and praises from users... But i might just stick to either getting an epiphone LP or the real deal LP somewhere next year... depending how much $$$ i have by then...

Haha, its NO WHERE the deepness and thickness of the LP's tone.

haha, really?

of cos
i know someone on another forum who has a all-metal resonator guitar, go google if dunno wat it is.
that thing weighs more than 10kg.
les paul on avg weighs only about 4.5 - 5.5kg.

even my doubleneck SG is heavier than a LP

wts > my lp

Is LP the heaviest of all Gibsons? How bout explorer? Heard it is quite heavy too

all depends on wat yr, wat model etc.
got some SGs that are heavier than LP.
got some LP that are very light.

the 1st month i jam with my gitarist who jus bought a LP
i kept complaining...

the tone is too thick....
its dominating...
i cant even hear my bass!!!
LP are simpli too f***in heavy!!!

haha, you sound so pissed off. Dont jealous the tone of LP. lol