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 Differences between Hacking and Cracking., Let the debate begins....

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CooLeRthings
post Nov 15 2008, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(elico @ Nov 15 2008, 04:13 PM)
there is some difference between cracking something which u didnt own and cracking something which u owned

JB iPhone is cracking something which u have the license to use the software even without JB, when u purchased iPhone the license came together with it, JB it just violating the License Agreement, did not violate any Copyright Law or Intellectual Property Law as we did not own an infringe copy of iPhone Software

But cracking Application in which u does not own the license to use is not just violating the License Agreement, but aso violating others Copyright Law, Intellectual Property Law and other law relating to it as u own an infringe copy of the software
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QUOTE(sugen @ Nov 15 2008, 04:25 PM)
Again, i welcome crack/hacks.... It is just our debate here "why hacks is allow & why cracks prohibited since both is illegal action ".. We live in the kingdom of Mod here.. This is his kingdom, if he think hack is allow but crack is not allow.. Then let it be....

Oh ya.. last action of any debate end with hand shaking... eh.. no ICON for hand shaking 1 ah here... rclxms.gif
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@ sugen
read that up

Do u know there is lesson/class to learn how to hack in some training center, but there is no lesson to learn how to crack?

Hack depend on human moral value, which is done it for good or bad
Sometime hacking is necessary to retrieve what they been locked.
like said, a company got an important data, but they locked and forget their password,
and there is an IT company tat unlock this password or AKA Hacking service, which it is allowed
and dun forget, u even can purchase Hacking tools online
hacking Microsoft password tools that u need to purchase which it's u tell me is it illegal or not?


but Crack is really a different story
if something that u have copyrighted, u by pass it so u can use it free other than pay the license/copyright.
i dun see it is same as hack unsure.gif


So, Hack, whether it is illegal or not, that is depend on victim that get hacked to judge it.
while Crack is illegal all the while


CooLeRthings
post Nov 16 2008, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(sugen @ Nov 15 2008, 09:51 PM)
Great to hear that ! But... but then i found out the below article source from http://www.iphonehacks.com/2008/11/pwnagetoolpwned.html (For those who miss it in the earlier post, i will just Cut & paste again)

"" New MacBook Users Reporting Problems Running iPhone Dev Team's Pwnage Tool?

The iPhone Dev Team have claimed that it was impossible for Apple to fix the bug they had exploited to develop their Pwnage Tool which they claimed could only be prevented by a hardware fix.

However, Apple Engineers had proved them wrong (kind of) by figuring out a way to combat Pwnage for existing hardware by programming iTunes 8 to detect and prevent the Pwnage exploit. The iPhone Dev team had immediately released a patch to counteract Apple's counermeasure at that time.

But it looks like Apple Engineers might have another trick up their sleeve as iPhone users over at HowardForums and iPodTouchFans are reporting problems running the Pwnage Tool on the new MacBooks that were recently released by Apple........The Dev Team have not yet commented on this latest countermeasure by Apple. ""

Elico,
Maybe apple had recently change the rule & regulation that JB is no longer legal under US LAW.. (this is my assumption ONLY )

Guy, i will try to email apple.com support regarding the matter that we discuss here.. Not sure if they will entertain me or not. If they can drop a word or join us for this discussion.. THEN LYN will be very famous by then..

All of us here just want to know the REAL answer.. I think apple should be the right person to answer..  rclxm9.gif
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but u just state they combating?
if against the law, shouldn't Apple file a law suit on them instead of "combat" on how to prevent it? unsure.gif

This post has been edited by CooLeRthings: Nov 16 2008, 01:09 AM

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